Reloading Sierra 44 cal 210 gr JHC bullets over H110 and magnum CCI lg primer for the last 40 years. Largest one 11pt OH deer. at 235 yards. All staying in the offside shoulder will mushroom to 82 cal. at least 170gr retained weight.
Once upon a time reloading saved a lot of money. I started around 1967. Primers were $6.70 a thousand and almost any type of powder was under $10.00 a pound. Recently I found two boxes of Speer 200 grain 45ACP bullets that I had purchased in the late 70"s and forgot about them. They were less than $10.00. I also found a box of 50 factory primed Winchester 380 brass. It was marked $2.37. Today's purchase was one box of Hornady 357 158 grain XTP bullets. They were $29.99. Loading these today runs about .45 cents a shot with once fired brass. Guys my age like to talk about the "Good ole Days". They are gone forever!
That's about when Dad bought me a rock chucker. Started with 6mm and 6.5 Japanese 30.30. Fast forward must have 50 dies now. Use to go auctions buy up supply's. Even had a few neighbor hood old timer reloaded gift me stuff. Took that and used spare stuff to introduce young guys to reloading. Now I'm the old timer 😅😅😮
I have a '94 Winchester from my father in-law he gave me (brand new) from the 60's in 2012. Had a $75 JC Penney price tag. I got it in a bag inside the box. I'll never get rid of it
@@donaldboethel7430 Some firearms should never be sold, hopefully to be passed on to someone in the generation who will love and appreciate . I still have a lot of my maternal grandfather’s firearms. My all time favorite is the first pistol he ever bought brand new, a Civilian Government model 1911 in .45acp made in 1946. The rest he bought used, at least until 1970 when he bought a few NIB rifles. Still take the old Remington Model 8/81s out on opening day.
@dbmail545 the older I get the less I give a shit what others think about me and the fewer filters are active when thoughts get turned into words. At 59 I think I have almost no filters left.
.44 Mag is the reason I started reloading. It's CRAZY expensive to buy it pre-made. Yeah, the cost of the press and equipment can be expensive, but if you buy supplies for a few of the higher priced units (44 mag, 45-70, 300 win mag...and my 50-110), you more than recoup your money...fairly quickly too, if you like to play outside a lot.
@@m73m95 it helps to get lucky and get the equipment cheep. Got my rock rockchucker press for $40.00, many different cal. Dies all $5.00 a pc. 12 dies total. Yes there is a 44mag among them. Women knew what she had just wanted to get rid of it.
get a mould one that uses a gas check. my gas check loads that I mount with a Lee sizer and lube with liquid Aloe shoot clean and accurate and do everything I could ask for in my revolvers and my carbine.
It isn't just ammo; ever since the current president was elected the price of food had more than doubled, the price of gasoline has tripled, and the price of everything else has at least doubled. What is so amazing is the Demomorons lie like hell and blame it all on the Party of Lincoln, and the other morons out there who vote for the Demomorons actually believe this tripe! I suppose this post will be deleted for telling the truth. Maybe the you tube censors won't notice my post since I didn't use the parties involved actual names.
It isn't just ammo. Since Biden got into office, food has more than doubled in price, gas has tripled, and most everything else has doubled in price (or more) too! The most amazing thing is, the Demorats blame Trump and the party of Lincoln for it, and the morons that vote for the Demorats actually believe the lies! People seem to have no common sense any more. As Einstein once said, the total amount of intelligence in the world is a constant, but the population is increasing. The result of that is obvious. I suppose the you tube censors will delete this post, since in todays woke world stating the obvious is a crime.
Just like the price of medicine. I needed a antibiotic that was $129. for a 6 dose amount but with a HyVee discount card I paid $17. Tell me they are ripping off anyone not paying attention.
Price gouging is Commie talk. Please...it's a supply and demand. There's a shortage of material. Lead is mined along with silver and copper and guess what ? Copper prices are way up. Brass is mostly copper. Tin was really high for a while. Powder, shit...the only new stock I can find is Hodgon.
Thank you for the honest assessment on 44 magnum ammo. It cost me $60 yesterday for two boxes of Core-Lokt 130gr PSP in 270 Winchester. No longer is Core-Lokt “the cheapest mushroom in the woods!” Let’s hope that the ammo price escalation is stopped. The “Progressive” movement must be stopped! Don’t let it take over your state, like it has in the State of Washington. A beautiful place named after a Great Man, taken over by Progressive Elites.
Several years ago I bought a Ruger 77-44 just like the one you show in this video. At the time I also bought several varieties of ammo from different manufacturers, different bullet weights, velocities, etc. For what ever reason it seems to like almost anything we shoot through it. Other than a little scope adjustment, we were able to keep five rounds in the black at 50 yards without much trouble. My son has taken whitetail deer with it here in Indiana. As I recall, he liked the performance of one of the “Lever Revolution” configurations very well, in spite of the fact he was shooting a bolt gun. This little carbine is probably one of the best tools in the cabinet for our purposes.
Reload, reload, reload ?? 😂 Primers have tripled in price , right along with powder and boolots. Then add in your time. Ya might as well just go buy ammo anymore.
@@fredted1611 I hear ya mate, some of us just like rolling our own and Whotee didn’t sound happy about coughing up the bucks for the ammo, cheers buddy ✌️
What I bought was expensive compared to normal rifle bullets. The lever revolution was some I had not tried, and a buddy give me a second box. Since that is what I have the most of I decided to use it. Was glad to see you got one because I knew the bullet test would be coming. I don't have much experience with the flex tip except in 30 30 and they worked good.
I am an Ohio resident. I tried the .44 mag out of a Marlin 1894 due to our straight wall cartridge restrictions. I recommend jacketed soft points over a hollow point. Federal Hammer Down is decent when you can find it. However, I am not real fond of hunting with the setup. The trajectory of the .44 mag limits you to about 125 yards max. The .44 mag is a short range woods cartridge at best. There is no need to handicap yourself with a revolver cartridge when you have access to far better performing cartridges.
My experience. Blunt bullets are way better if you're shooting under 200yds. My family hunted together for over 20yrs, and we had 18 tags to fill in under 3 days. I've been around 100s of deer taken down. Some would bring in big magnums down to 7mm 08 and 243. The deer that almost always stopped when they were hit were almost always with a round nose or blunt type bullet. 308- 180gr corelokt soft point, not the psp. 270 159gr, same bullet, 3030 same thing. I received a 264 win mag from 1958 from my pap when he died. I have 140gr rem. That thing seemed to go so fast through the deer that it didn't open until it was half way through under 40yds. If it shot over 250 it worked better but my 308 with the blunt nose, they never run. I shot one with the pointed 180gr and he ran 50yds. I got married and found my father in law had realized the same thing. I'm in western pa and hardly ever shoot far. It didn't matter the cal, just the blunt nose. Just somthing for you to think about. 35yrs in the woods.
7mm Remington Magnum. Hornady 139gr boat tail. Works great. Opens up close or far. Never saw one run with those. Saw one hit with a 175gr that went 80 yards. But with the 139gr they drop.
That 264 win mag is an awesome round,it's kinda like a long action 6.5 Creedmore.I've got a pre-64 winchester model 70 with the 26 inch barrel that shoots great.The.264 has a bad rap as a poor shooter(doesn't group well)but I've found a 26 inch barrel shooting 140 grain bullets to be the most accurate,any shorter of a barrel and it doesn't shoot as well.
Adam: If you don't already know... I strongly recommend that you get the most recent Hodgdon Annual reloading manual and check out their data on the various straight wall cases. Find the highest muzzle energy powders and then compare the pressures that they develop to find the optimum propellants and use the lower pressure options, checking out their accuracy after to see how they compare. Hope this helps. You will often be surprised by the efficiency differences of the top performing powders with regards to the considerably lower pressures that some of them can provide and still achieve the highest muzzle energies! Thanks for being there and keep your powder dry!
@@superpoint43 I wish that you understood. If there is some part of the text that I could clarify, I will be happy to try and help. Are you familiar with the Hodgdon Annual manuals? If you look at the load data sections for the caliber that you want to reload... you will find data corresponding to most of the bullet weight options (including the specific bullet used in the data). They will list a number of the most efficient powders for that bullet, along with starting loads and maximum loads. Next they give the velocities achieved with that load and lastly, they show what the corresponding pressures are with that particular load. You can compare the various powders to find the ones that give the highest velocities and energies! The main point of the text is that often two or more powders will be quite close in terms of maximum energies... but NOT in terms of the pressures that they develop! By choosing the lower pressure options, it gives you a greater margin of safety and entails less wear and tear on both gun and shooter! It could also be important in finding loads that could perform reasonably well in older or weaker guns (like lever actions and revolvers) that are not designed for the higher pressures. Hope that this is helpful! Take care...
That store hosed you brother. I know that up here in Maine ammo prices are not that high. For deer, I would definitely take that hydra shok for deer . That's a thumper, tried and true. Thanks for another video buddy👍
Companies are getting more and more greedy every year! They always use the excuse of costs going up. The problem is, if the costs go up 10 percent, the price on the item goes up 20 percent! That's what burns me!
That Federal AE is a 240 grain JHP. They are superb performers on deer. I have been using that load or the same stuff by different name since the 70's.
Ammo prices are insane up here in North Eastern British Columbia. The cheapest box of 45-70 I could find was $75 a box without tax and the most expensive was $94.99 without tax.
Yikes. Yeah, .45-70 prices have gone nuts here in Ontario too, but not quite that high. Is that for 300 grain or 405? My local shop has twelve various loadings for sale from different manufacturers with nine of them under $75, and six of those at $55 to $65. But most of those are for 300-ish grains, except for two boxes of 405s. I'm sorry to hear prices are sky high like that. That's not right. Hopefully things manage to change for the better.
This is how they can implement gun control without taking a single gun. Simply restrict ammo. Given the sustained demand, any other product would have new capacity built to increase supply.
I started shooting.44 Mag as a teenager back in the late seventies and even then it was expensive enough to make a broke farm kid buy a Lee Hand Press and start loading my own. The other thing is that with the 77/44, (which I own and love!) the magazine restricts you to the standard over-all length of generic ammo so you can't run heavy-bullet specialty loads without single-loading them into the chamber, unlike some revolvers with longer cylinders like the Redhawk and Super Redhawk or certain lever guns. Alot of people like to suppress the 77/44 and run subsonic loads through it, so unexpected fun can be had with milder loads. Enjoy your new bolt gun! Love your videos, so keep them coming ( if you can afford to!).
I feel your pain. Additionally, you have to really factor in ammo cost to buying a new firearm. What you want may be prohibited by the cost of ammo for that firearm. Sucks, no it really sucks.
China cut off exports of nitrocellulose to Western countries. That is a critical component in smokeless powder. There is only one facility in the United States that makes smokeless powder and that is St. Mark's owned by General Dynamics. 90% of that product goes to mil/leo contracts. The majority of the powder consumed by manufacturers here in the US is imported from Australia, France, Sweden and Finland.
Elections have nothing of the sort, started with the Covid Era to raise pricing on everything across the board ,the tax tarifas being raised on importation has the majority and greed!
TMC for your Ruger model 77 in 44 mag means “total metal coating“ it is a thinner copper coating than the full metal jacketed bullets. you get slightly better FPS and slightly better accuracy with TMC bullets than you do with FMJ bullets. The main reason to reduce lead fowling in barrel and lead dust, which is harmful.
I don't know what kind of wizardry Hodgdon's used on Li'lGun, but the data I have perused shows it generates velocities at or near max with mid-range pressures for a lot of loadings in a lot of cartridges.
The reason ammo and reloading supplies costs so much is the 500% TAX the FEDS put on it during the second GwBush term. This needs to be repealed, along with the GCA & NFA.🤬🤬🤬🤬
Good lord!!!! I live in PA right outside of Philadelphia and that box of Federal is $50 all day. Usually the soft hollow point. Time to start shopping online brother! I love your content! Keep up the good work brother!
Yep. I reload for 44 mag. I have had that exact rifle, plus others over the years, a handful of pistols, even a derringer, in 44 mag. Winchester white box, 240 grain soft points are good for deer, that bullet is a bit tougher and handles the velocities out of a rifle fairly well, but it isn't that hot a load. My favorite deer carbine bullet is a 240 XTP.
44 special here in Alaska is more expensive than 44 magnum. I am glad to see your 44 mag prices are on par with our 44 mag prices. I was thinking we were just the lucky ones paying that price.
I agree it's ridiculous for the price of ammo. I recently bought a Smith and Wesson 10mm and ammo for it is about as bad as your 44mag. The cheapest range ammo FMJ's were 30 bucks for 50 rounds. The most expensive stuff I got for it was some Buffalo Bore 220 grain hard cast that was 43 bucks for a box of 20. 5 boxes of that stuff was over 200! I miss the lower priced ammo days.
Ammo makers are devious, they have often reduced the quantity from the typical 25 to 20. The ammo is given an exotic name and touted as the last word in self-defence (at a ridiculous price). I have been loading .44 Mag for 52 years for a Winchester 94 and a Super Blackhawk and it's super easy. Used to cast my own with gas checks, but Frontier CMJ (copper plated) are excellent for practice, if you can find them.
You don’t always get the best deal online, but it’s certainly worth a check. The cheapest place I’ve found the terminal accent my wife shoots is a local shop, $15 less than the places I found it online.
My uncle shot a small buck with his Ruger 77/44 a few years ago. It was 34 yards, broadside and he heart shot it. He used the Federal American eagle load you have. Buck went 50 yards and dropped. Big hole, complete pass thru and a huge blood trail.
Took my larges deer with a 44 mag in a lever-action Marlin. Used the Hornady LeveRevolution. Great round. I now hand load my own. I still use the same boo lot (hehe) as the LeveRevolution (225 grain FTX from Hornady) but I have customized the load to be 0.5 inches at 50 years running at ~1700 fps. Should be close to what you get out of the manufacturer's box. Hits like a freight train. Use them out of my Ruger Super Redhawk as well.
I just ordered a Colt Kodiak 44 mag, also bought a MP mold for 300 grain HP, dish point and WFN …. Cast your own bullets and collect brass from range or trade for it much cheaper then store bought. I went to the store the cheapest I seen was 55 a box ….crazy 44 mag is a hand loaders dream from mild to wild ….now save that 44 mag brass and reload it !
don't blame the ammo companies. they need to stay in business. this is what happens when the current government destroys the economy ... it is called "inflation" but it is the devaluation of the dollar due to spending money we don't have. voting has consequences. MAGA
So tell me where you think the money comes from and how you think the economy works. Do you know anything about the federal reserve bank? What is the dollar backed by? It used to be gold, but what is it now? Who controls our money and why has it not been our money since the 70s? Does the president control the federal reserve? Is the president even allowed inside the federal reserve? Why is our money controlled by a private bank that no citizen or member of government has access to?
Yes, they are playing people for the real desire is to regulate and create new taxes in the name of "safety" and " climate change", typical (D)eception by the "party" of N.W.O.
TMC is total metal case, sometimes referred to as FMC. It means the rear end of the bullet is also encased if you happen to be concerned about lead fouling or actually breathing it in.
LOL.....There are reasons several of us handload, and while the price is one, the choice of bullet selection and tailoring the load to rifle or handgun is another. I've been handloading for well over 50 years, and hunting with a 44 mag in handguns and rifle in that caliber for about 45 of those years. We've killed a fair amount with the old Speer 240 SP and HP, 240 JSWC, Gold Dots and our cast 255 LSWC. Using my 240 or 255 cast LSWC and current stock of primers and powders, I can still load top end 44 mags for $10 per box of 50.
The problem I had when I got into 44mag hunting about 7 years ago was telling the difference between pistol loads and rifle loads. The ammo boxes have virtually NO information. They will tell you the grain weight of the bullet, but not the grain weight of the powder load. I ended up with some crap ammo that couldn't go thru a deer. My brother started hand loading me some 240 grain HTPs and the difference in how the gun shot and downed a deer was incredible! I then found White Box Winchester Deer and Bear 44mag. that shoots pretty comparable to those hand loads- and I can pretty consistently find it; which is huge.
The cost of 44 mag is why I went with the 77-357 version. You can also shoot 38 special out of that rifle but Ruger says you cannot shoot 44 special out of the 44 mag version.
@@frankrodriguez9697 Rotary mag with a rimmed cartridge, looks like the way they're retaining them could let a .44spl slip forward ahead of the feed lip. Mag would just spit it out of the rifle in that state.
I have taken deer with the 240 hydro shock the bullet destroyed the inside but no exit with the same rig. I switched to the lever evolution and have been happy with the performance from a 14 inch barrel Thompson's Center
I just checked my normal supplier (for the last three years), found they have Magtech at 34.99, that same Federal at 57.95, Fiocchi at 52.69, S&B for 39.05 and Armscor at 41.94. I will be happy to pass along their info if you are interested.
That is why in 1967, when I got my first Ruger Super Blackhawk 3screw, I started reloading for the 44, because even then, 44 mag loaded ammo prices were ridiculous. A pound of 2400 powder, which is what Elmer Keith always used for 44, was $1.89/lb. H4831 which I used for my 25-06 that I got in 1969 was $1.45/lb. I find today’s prices abhorrent, especially for the primers. Concerning the loads for the 44, I can attest that a Hornady XTP will reliably expand and drop a deer in either a pistol or rifle. In a 454 Casull with an XTP mag bullet, it is also lights out. If you decide to start loading look no further than a load of 21gr /2400/240 XTP or 23.5gr 296/240XTP or if you wanna smack a big hog 21 gr /296/310 gr.WFN hard cast GC, which is an absolute hammer. After 56 years of loading and shooting the 44, those are my recommendations. When I was at a gun shop in the early 70’s, and S&W model 29’s were virtually unobtainable, they had just delivered a case of model 29’s in all configurations, I purchased a 6 1/2” nickel for $399, which I thought was ridiculous, but through the years has shown what a great investment, sent it off and had it Magnaported, and made it such a pussycat to shoot. Good luck Who-T, I hope you develop such a love affair with the 44 as I have.
A long time back, we used 44s and 45s hydra-shocks and XTPs with sabots in 50cal muzzle loaders and they did fine on deer. ..a guess they probably were going 15-1600 fps.maybe a little more.
I bought my Super Redhawk in 454 last year. One of my prerequisites to buying it was that I needed to get into reloading first. That said, 45 Colt and 454 are in a similar cost bracket as 44 Mag. Over the years, I have found that S&B is cheaper than Federal plinking ammo if the caliber is produced.
TMC is total metal case. The entire bullet is encased in a copper jacket. No exposed lead. Those prices are ridiculous. I get that for about $50 a box.
I also reload 44 mag. It's one of many cartridges that I deer hunt with. The 240gr XTP is hard to beat for performance on a whitetail. Over a stout charge of H110, you'll get over 1900 fps out of it when using something that doesn't have a cylinder gap.
Took a whitetail a couple weeks ago with a Marlin 1894 and leverevolution in .44 mag. I think it only partially opened, exit wound wasn't nearly as large as I was expecting, but she only made it 30 yards. Blood everywhere though and easy tracking through 6ft grass. Upside is unleaded meat.
I have the same rifle and mine prefers the Winchester white box cheap loads. They perform well on whitetails although the farthest I have shot at one was about 80 yards. I love the speed of the short stroke bolt, hit a running buck 3 times in 35 yards.......not bragging it is just that smooth.
I strongly agree with your opinion on the price of 44 mag ammo. It has become outrageously expensive. Back in 1991 when I bought my first RedHawks you could get a box of 50 hunting rounds for under 20 dollars
I’m old. So I’m of course not happy with ammo prices. But at least now you can actually buy ammo. Two years ago the shelves were bare. Actually no ammo. And yeah. Reload. We’re starting to see more consistent primer, powder, and bullets for most calibers. Again, better than two years ago so I’m not gonna complain.
I think the chamber pressure on the 45-70 is capped much lower from the black powder days so maybe the leverlution was meant for a higher velocity. Typically Hornady had put impact velocity design intentions in with the projectiles so you had and idea if it was suitable for the application. A chronograph test of the 44 mag with the 225 and the 45-70 with the deer catcher round would be kind of interesting especially when compared in a gel block.
I’m a handloader, but it does take time. It’s obvious that time for handloading, in your case is in short supply. Thank you for working so hard making these videos. I enjoy every one of them.
That's like last year 35 Remington ammo was ridiculous if you could find it, sometimes 90 bucks a box. This year it came back but Remington wants 60 bucks a box which is a ripoff so I found some Federal Hammer Down for 33 bucks a box and the stuff is awesome accurate and my gun loves it so I bought 5 boxes lol
Hey Hootie play Hootie are you sure that you separate and identify your lover Evolution 44 Magnums because the case is slightly shorter than a standard loading thanks for the video
44 Mag has gotten to be a reloaders cartidge. Its so insane to buy loaded rounds today, but much less expensive to load your own. Especially if you cast your own. Starline brass is fairly cheap just add the ingredients and its much less costly than store bought these days. Once you have a pile of good brass just recycle.
I bought a .44 magnum single action several years ago and enjoyed it. After retiring, I bought a 3" S&W 629. The price of ammo HURTS! I'm currently re-doing my house but once I'm done, I'll be setting up the reloading press again.
44 Magnum rounds have ALWAYS been expensive. That was why my dad always was a reloader. He reloaded ALL his pistol rounds and a LOT of his rifle rounds too.
I actually use the Ammo Inc. 240 grain hollow points in my .44 mag lever gun and they do a great job. Shoot great and puts the deer down. The gun shop I got them from told me that they actually use Hornady lead in that Ammo. So I bought them. All I had shot before was Hornady and couldn’t find them. That was right after Covid when ammo was hard to get. I haven’t looked back. Great stuff.
Damn, you might look into shipping a large order of ammo to keep the shipping costs down. My local gun shop went out of business and was run right by a nice older man, every year he'd gift me and others a box of ammo for Christmas.
l also can not stand being around people 😂 i live in Montana and rarely even go to Kalispell, and i definitely stay out missoula, those bigger cities excuse my language are complete shit holes and I don't even consider them part of montana the people there suck!!! They are rude and just have the city folk vibe
In comments on a different channel I heard a couple big cities in Montana called the “Banana Belt” because it doesn’t get quite as cold and snowy as much of the rest of the state.
Funny comments about Murfreesboro! Agree - it used to be a manageable size large town - now it's just an extension of Nashville. I hate going there anymore.
I’ve got a few boxes from years ago 😮. They prices are quadrupled !! But here in mass they add another big tax on us .. soon I’m outta here ret👨🏻🚒 & no longer need the 💩 from the state !
@WHOTEEWHO They usually have what ya looking for but they think ALOT of their stuff. I've bought several guns from them but more from Tollivers. Have a good day brother. God bless.
One other factory load I used in the .44 Magnum were the 330 grain hard cast lead Hammerheads from Garrett Ammunition. Those could only be used in a Ruger Super Redhawk revolver because of the OAL. They penetrated deep and killed like lightening, even on thin skinned game.
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My son got a Henry 45-70. Has his reasons which I understand. I tried to get him to go with a 308 Long Ranger but, no. 45-70. And then he started looking at ammunition prices after he got the rifle. YOWZAH! He instantly started asking questions about reloading ammunition for it.
Reloading is the only way to get the very best performance from 45-70. Most factory ammo in 45-70 sucks. Wish he would've spent the money on a ruger made marlin 45-70 or got a jm stamped used marlin because they are superior firearms to the henry, in my eyes at least. But hey, to each their own. Henry firearms are highly overrated in my opinion.
I Ave a 44 magnum Winchester 94, and I run the revaluation, so it protects from accidental primer ignition in the ammo tube. In a bolt cation, that'd be cool to have. Years ago I saw a 44 magnum Ruger semi auto, Walnut stock at a flea market for $600. I didn't have the money then. But I'd sure get it now.
I've been reloading 44 mag for many years. The big plus is that
The straight wall brass is good for lots of reloads. Saves tons of
Money.
after gun is empty reload.
& straight wall can be used to hunt in ohio & a few other states that doesn't allow tapered rounds like 30-30 or 308 or 30-06
Reloading Sierra 44 cal 210 gr JHC bullets over H110 and magnum CCI lg primer for the last 40 years. Largest one 11pt OH deer. at 235 yards. All staying in the offside shoulder will mushroom to 82 cal. at least 170gr retained weight.
I like using 2400 for all my +P+ loads because it burns so clean.
I use 2 powders for handgun
rounds- 2400 and Unique
Once upon a time reloading saved a lot of money. I started around 1967. Primers were $6.70 a thousand and almost any type of powder was under $10.00 a pound. Recently I found two boxes of Speer 200 grain 45ACP bullets that I had purchased in the late 70"s and forgot about them. They were less than $10.00. I also found a box of 50 factory primed Winchester 380 brass. It was marked $2.37. Today's purchase was one box of Hornady 357 158 grain XTP bullets. They were $29.99. Loading these today runs about .45 cents a shot with once fired brass. Guys my age like to talk about the "Good ole Days". They are gone forever!
I reload and have good amounts of most calibers. I just quit buying guns and ammo. I'm not going to be the only one tightening my belt.
That's about when Dad bought me a rock chucker. Started with 6mm and 6.5 Japanese 30.30. Fast forward must have 50 dies now. Use to go auctions buy up supply's.
Even had a few neighbor hood old timer reloaded gift me stuff. Took that and used spare stuff to introduce young guys to reloading. Now I'm the old timer 😅😅😮
I have a '94 Winchester from my father in-law he gave me (brand new) from the 60's in 2012. Had a $75 JC Penney price tag.
I got it in a bag inside the box. I'll never get rid of it
got that right!!!!!!
@@donaldboethel7430 Some firearms should never be sold, hopefully to be passed on to someone in the generation who will love and appreciate .
I still have a lot of my maternal grandfather’s firearms. My all time favorite is the first pistol he ever bought brand new, a Civilian Government model 1911 in .45acp made in 1946. The rest he bought used, at least until 1970 when he bought a few NIB rifles.
Still take the old Remington Model 8/81s out on opening day.
Take my word. You don't get less grumpy with age ❤
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Hardcast 220 gr RCBS, Blue Dot is a lot cheaper.
No,you do not. 😂😎👍
WHUT ?!!
@dbmail545 the older I get the less I give a shit what others think about me and the fewer filters are active when thoughts get turned into words. At 59 I think I have almost no filters left.
.44 Mag is the reason I started reloading. It's CRAZY expensive to buy it pre-made. Yeah, the cost of the press and equipment can be expensive, but if you buy supplies for a few of the higher priced units (44 mag, 45-70, 300 win mag...and my 50-110), you more than recoup your money...fairly quickly too, if you like to play outside a lot.
@@m73m95 it helps to get lucky and get the equipment cheep. Got my rock rockchucker press for $40.00, many different cal. Dies all $5.00 a pc. 12 dies total. Yes there is a 44mag among them. Women knew what she had just wanted to get rid of it.
get a mould one that uses a gas check. my gas check loads that I mount with a Lee sizer and lube with liquid Aloe shoot clean and accurate and do everything I could ask for in my revolvers and my carbine.
The price gouging on ammo across the board is ridiculous!
Bingo
It isn't just ammo; ever since the current president was elected the price of food had more than doubled, the price of gasoline has tripled, and the price of everything else has at least doubled. What is so amazing is the Demomorons lie like hell and blame it all on the Party of Lincoln, and the other morons out there who vote for the Demomorons actually believe this tripe! I suppose this post will be deleted for telling the truth. Maybe the you tube censors won't notice my post since I didn't use the parties involved actual names.
It isn't just ammo. Since Biden got into office, food has more than doubled in price, gas has tripled, and most everything else has doubled in price (or more) too! The most amazing thing is, the Demorats blame Trump and the party of Lincoln for it, and the morons that vote for the Demorats actually believe the lies! People seem to have no common sense any more. As Einstein once said, the total amount of intelligence in the world is a constant, but the population is increasing. The result of that is obvious. I suppose the you tube censors will delete this post, since in todays woke world stating the obvious is a crime.
Just like the price of medicine. I needed a antibiotic that was $129. for a 6 dose amount but with a HyVee discount card I paid $17. Tell me they are ripping off anyone not paying attention.
Price gouging is Commie talk. Please...it's a supply and demand. There's a shortage of material. Lead is mined along with silver and copper and guess what ? Copper prices are way up. Brass is mostly copper. Tin was really high for a while. Powder, shit...the only new stock I can find is Hodgon.
Thank you for the honest assessment on 44 magnum ammo. It cost me $60 yesterday for two boxes of Core-Lokt 130gr PSP in 270 Winchester. No longer is Core-Lokt “the cheapest mushroom in the woods!” Let’s hope that the ammo price escalation is stopped. The “Progressive” movement must be stopped! Don’t let it take over your state, like it has in the State of Washington. A beautiful place named after a Great Man, taken over by Progressive Elites.
Winchester just announced they are raising prices 5% in the new year.
That Federal American Eagle is good hunting ammo. They’re full house loads and the bullet performs very well.
I completely agree!
I ended up with Magtech 240gr JSP for $45ish. They claim 1600fps from a 8.3” barrel-should be screaming (relatively) from my 20” Rossi.
Several years ago I bought a Ruger 77-44 just like the one you show in this video. At the time I also bought several varieties of ammo from different manufacturers, different bullet weights, velocities, etc. For what ever reason it seems to like almost anything we shoot through it. Other than a little scope adjustment, we were able to keep five rounds in the black at 50 yards without much trouble. My son has taken whitetail deer with it here in Indiana. As I recall, he liked the performance of one of the “Lever Revolution” configurations very well, in spite of the fact he was shooting a bolt gun. This little carbine is probably one of the best tools in the cabinet for our purposes.
The slinger is just the price of admission lol you still gotta feed it 🤣
Reload, reload, reload, don’t loose that brass mate, cheers Yogi ✌️
Reload, reload, reload ?? 😂 Primers have tripled in price , right along with powder and boolots. Then add in your time. Ya might as well just go buy ammo anymore.
@@fredted1611 I hear ya mate, some of us just like rolling our own and Whotee didn’t sound happy about coughing up the bucks for the ammo, cheers buddy ✌️
What I bought was expensive compared to normal rifle bullets. The lever revolution was some I had not tried, and a buddy give me a second box. Since that is what I have the most of I decided to use it. Was glad to see you got one because I knew the bullet test would be coming. I don't have much experience with the flex tip except in 30 30 and they worked good.
I am an Ohio resident. I tried the .44 mag out of a Marlin 1894 due to our straight wall cartridge restrictions. I recommend jacketed soft points over a hollow point. Federal Hammer Down is decent when you can find it. However, I am not real fond of hunting with the setup. The trajectory of the .44 mag limits you to about 125 yards max. The .44 mag is a short range woods cartridge at best. There is no need to handicap yourself with a revolver cartridge when you have access to far better performing cartridges.
My experience. Blunt bullets are way better if you're shooting under 200yds. My family hunted together for over 20yrs, and we had 18 tags to fill in under 3 days. I've been around 100s of deer taken down. Some would bring in big magnums down to 7mm 08 and 243. The deer that almost always stopped when they were hit were almost always with a round nose or blunt type bullet. 308- 180gr corelokt soft point, not the psp. 270 159gr, same bullet, 3030 same thing. I received a 264 win mag from 1958 from my pap when he died. I have 140gr rem. That thing seemed to go so fast through the deer that it didn't open until it was half way through under 40yds. If it shot over 250 it worked better but my 308 with the blunt nose, they never run. I shot one with the pointed 180gr and he ran 50yds. I got married and found my father in law had realized the same thing. I'm in western pa and hardly ever shoot far. It didn't matter the cal, just the blunt nose. Just somthing for you to think about. 35yrs in the woods.
7mm Remington Magnum. Hornady 139gr boat tail. Works great. Opens up close or far. Never saw one run with those. Saw one hit with a 175gr that went 80 yards. But with the 139gr they drop.
That 264 win mag is an awesome round,it's kinda like a long action 6.5 Creedmore.I've got a pre-64 winchester model 70 with the 26 inch barrel that shoots great.The.264 has a bad rap as a poor shooter(doesn't group well)but I've found a 26 inch barrel shooting 140 grain bullets to be the most accurate,any shorter of a barrel and it doesn't shoot as well.
Adam: If you don't already know...
I strongly recommend that you get the most recent Hodgdon Annual reloading manual and check out their data on the various straight wall cases. Find the highest muzzle energy powders and then compare the pressures that they develop to find the optimum propellants and use the lower pressure options, checking out their accuracy after to see how they compare. Hope this helps. You will often be surprised by the efficiency differences of the top performing powders with regards to the considerably lower pressures that some of them can provide and still achieve the highest muzzle energies! Thanks for being there and keep your powder dry!
Wish I knew WTF you are trying to say.
@@superpoint43
I wish that you understood. If there is some part of the text that I could clarify, I will be happy to try and help. Are you familiar with the Hodgdon Annual manuals? If you look at the load data sections for the caliber that you want to reload... you will find data corresponding to most of the bullet weight options (including the specific bullet used in the data). They will list a number of the most efficient powders for that bullet, along with starting loads and maximum loads.
Next they give the velocities achieved with that load and lastly, they show what the corresponding pressures are with that particular load. You can compare the various powders to find the ones that give the highest velocities and energies!
The main point of the text is that often two or more powders will be quite close in terms of maximum energies... but NOT in terms of the pressures that they develop! By choosing the lower pressure options, it gives you a greater margin of safety and entails less wear and tear on both gun and shooter! It could also be important in finding loads that could perform reasonably well in older or weaker guns (like lever actions and revolvers) that are not designed for the higher pressures. Hope that this is helpful! Take care...
If you think this is price gouging come to Canada. Prices are in the heart ❤️ attack range.
That store hosed you brother. I know that up here in Maine ammo prices are not that high. For deer, I would definitely take that hydra shok for deer . That's a thumper, tried and true. Thanks for another video buddy👍
Companies are getting more and more greedy every year! They always use the excuse of costs going up. The problem is, if the costs go up 10 percent, the price on the item goes up 20 percent! That's what burns me!
Yup
That Federal AE is a 240 grain JHP. They are superb performers on deer. I have been using that load or the same stuff by different name since the 70's.
Ammo prices are insane up here in North Eastern British Columbia. The cheapest box of 45-70 I could find was $75 a box without tax and the most expensive was $94.99 without tax.
Yikes. Yeah, .45-70 prices have gone nuts here in Ontario too, but not quite that high. Is that for 300 grain or 405? My local shop has twelve various loadings for sale from different manufacturers with nine of them under $75, and six of those at $55 to $65. But most of those are for 300-ish grains, except for two boxes of 405s. I'm sorry to hear prices are sky high like that. That's not right. Hopefully things manage to change for the better.
Damn…. Hate to see that happen to hunters. It’s coming everywhere and it would be over for all of us if we didnt have firearms
This is how they can implement gun control without taking a single gun. Simply restrict ammo.
Given the sustained demand, any other product would have new capacity built to increase supply.
I started shooting.44 Mag as a teenager back in the late seventies and even then it was expensive enough to make a broke farm kid buy a Lee Hand Press and start loading my own. The other thing is that with the 77/44, (which I own and love!) the magazine restricts you to the standard over-all length of generic ammo so you can't run heavy-bullet specialty loads without single-loading them into the chamber, unlike some revolvers with longer cylinders like the Redhawk and Super Redhawk or certain lever guns. Alot of people like to suppress the 77/44 and run subsonic loads through it, so unexpected fun can be had with milder loads.
Enjoy your new bolt gun! Love your videos, so keep them coming ( if you can afford to!).
I had S&W model 29! In 44 mag it was gawd awful expensive I reloaded mine for that reason.
I feel your pain. Additionally, you have to really factor in ammo cost to buying a new firearm. What you want may be prohibited by the cost of ammo for that firearm. Sucks, no it really sucks.
Ammo prices always get worse in an election year. Reloading supplies prices are always outrageous. And primers are scarce and hard to find again
Even if we stopped buying ammo prices will go up to fund these never ending wars.
China cut off exports of nitrocellulose to Western countries. That is a critical component in smokeless powder. There is only one facility in the United States that makes smokeless powder and that is St. Mark's owned by General Dynamics. 90% of that product goes to mil/leo contracts. The majority of the powder consumed by manufacturers here in the US is imported from Australia, France, Sweden and Finland.
Elections have nothing of the sort, started with the Covid Era to raise pricing on everything across the board ,the tax tarifas being raised on importation has the majority and greed!
The Academy I go to in S. Georgia has two or three shelves of all primers, except shotgun primers.
TMC for your Ruger model 77 in 44 mag means “total metal coating“ it is a thinner copper coating than the full metal jacketed bullets. you get slightly better FPS and slightly better accuracy with TMC bullets than you do with FMJ bullets. The main reason to reduce lead fowling in barrel and lead dust, which is harmful.
Save your brass😊 I only shoot hand loads. H110 is a magic powder👌
I use imr 4227 in my 240gr hornady xtp loads
Just got dies for. 357 is that good in a 4 inch?
alliant2400 always good fireball out of my Deagle
I don't know what kind of wizardry Hodgdon's used on Li'lGun, but the data I have perused shows it generates velocities at or near max with mid-range pressures for a lot of loadings in a lot of cartridges.
@@keitha2675me too and love it
Inflation is pretty crazy, but its by design of those in power now.
BS. No president has much influence on inflation.
The reason ammo and reloading supplies costs so much is the 500% TAX the FEDS put on it during the second GwBush term.
This needs to be repealed, along with the GCA & NFA.🤬🤬🤬🤬
44 is great but ammo cost cause me to reload
Good lord!!!! I live in PA right outside of Philadelphia and that box of Federal is $50 all day. Usually the soft hollow point. Time to start shopping online brother! I love your content! Keep up the good work brother!
Thank you for making me realize my age. It was cheap when I turned 21.
Different CENTURY.
i allways look at what the ammo is before i buy a new gun ...
Yep exactly 💯
I look at ammo price first and then at the corresponding weapon.
You’re not a you tuber that needs to create new content
Bingo
Yep, I sold a bunch of unicorn rifles because I got tired of paying $4-5/rd for the good stuff. Done with all that.
Ammo price is one reason I went with the Ruger M77/357. Already having ammo for my revolvers and a lever action was a bonus.
Yep. I reload for 44 mag. I have had that exact rifle, plus others over the years, a handful of pistols, even a derringer, in 44 mag. Winchester white box, 240 grain soft points are good for deer, that bullet is a bit tougher and handles the velocities out of a rifle fairly well, but it isn't that hot a load.
My favorite deer carbine bullet is a 240 XTP.
Brothers from another mother😃. My brother hand loads me XTPs. Off the shelf, I buy Winchester white box deer and bear. I like them both.
Caught my first three deer with 44 mag ruger carbine. I wish i still had the rifle it was a little tax driver
I had a Ruger carbine on layaway, but let it go. Sure wish I bought it.
44 special here in Alaska is more expensive than 44 magnum. I am glad to see your 44 mag prices are on par with our 44 mag prices. I was thinking we were just the lucky ones paying that price.
Still cheaper to reload and buy components in bulk.
I agree it's ridiculous for the price of ammo. I recently bought a Smith and Wesson 10mm and ammo for it is about as bad as your 44mag. The cheapest range ammo FMJ's were 30 bucks for 50 rounds. The most expensive stuff I got for it was some Buffalo Bore 220 grain hard cast that was 43 bucks for a box of 20. 5 boxes of that stuff was over 200! I miss the lower priced ammo days.
Its probably not "supply and demand. "
Its "what the market will bear."
Yup
Of course it doesn't help that the "Inflation Reduction Act" dumped a couple trillion dollars into the economy, driving up prices on everything.
Ammo makers are devious, they have often reduced the quantity from the typical 25 to 20. The ammo is given an exotic name and touted as the last word in self-defence (at a ridiculous price). I have been loading .44 Mag for 52 years for a Winchester 94 and a Super Blackhawk and it's super easy. Used to cast my own with gas checks, but Frontier CMJ (copper plated) are excellent for practice, if you can find them.
For pistol ammo and some rifle ammo for plinking go on line to Munition Ammo in Texas. They load once fired brass for almost 1/2 of store bought ammo.
That's Freedom Munition in Texas.
Is that the full name Munition Ammo? Can't seem to find it.
Reloading for the 44 mag is the way to go. Components are available and the cost savings is huge.
As much as it sucks, buying online does get you the best deal.
I work for Scheels’s we get everything at cost so I stopped ordering ammo. Only time I buy ammo anywhere else is when I see a killer deal on armslist
I use ammoseek. It makes it pretty easy to find a good deal.
Be patient, do your research. Some sites do not charge tax and shipping.
You don’t always get the best deal online, but it’s certainly worth a check. The cheapest place I’ve found the terminal accent my wife shoots is a local shop, $15 less than the places I found it online.
@@jaydunbar7538 got lucky.
My uncle shot a small buck with his Ruger 77/44 a few years ago. It was 34 yards, broadside and he heart shot it. He used the Federal American eagle load you have. Buck went 50 yards and dropped. Big hole, complete pass thru and a huge blood trail.
Took my larges deer with a 44 mag in a lever-action Marlin. Used the Hornady LeveRevolution. Great round. I now hand load my own. I still use the same boo lot (hehe) as the LeveRevolution (225 grain FTX from Hornady) but I have customized the load to be 0.5 inches at 50 years running at ~1700 fps. Should be close to what you get out of the manufacturer's box. Hits like a freight train. Use them out of my Ruger Super Redhawk as well.
I just ordered a Colt Kodiak 44 mag, also bought a MP mold for 300 grain HP, dish point and WFN …. Cast your own bullets and collect brass from range or trade for it much cheaper then store bought.
I went to the store the cheapest I seen was 55 a box ….crazy
44 mag is a hand loaders dream from mild to wild ….now save that 44 mag brass and reload it !
don't blame the ammo companies.
they need to stay in business.
this is what happens when the current government destroys the economy ... it is called "inflation" but it is the devaluation of the dollar due to spending money we don't have.
voting has consequences.
MAGA
So tell me where you think the money comes from and how you think the economy works. Do you know anything about the federal reserve bank? What is the dollar backed by? It used to be gold, but what is it now? Who controls our money and why has it not been our money since the 70s? Does the president control the federal reserve? Is the president even allowed inside the federal reserve? Why is our money controlled by a private bank that no citizen or member of government has access to?
@carlosspeicywiener7018 35 Trillion extra dollars floating around devalued the money making prices seemingly rise. The creature is real
Yes, they are playing people for the real desire is to regulate and create new taxes in the name of "safety" and " climate change", typical (D)eception by the "party" of N.W.O.
Yeah brass is not cheap. I'm invested in bass metals and they've been going up.
Nailed it bro.🎯
TMC is total metal case, sometimes referred to as FMC. It means the rear end of the bullet is also encased if you happen to be concerned about lead fouling or actually breathing it in.
LOL.....There are reasons several of us handload, and while the price is one, the choice of bullet selection and tailoring the load to rifle or handgun is another. I've been handloading for well over 50 years, and hunting with a 44 mag in handguns and rifle in that caliber for about 45 of those years. We've killed a fair amount with the old Speer 240 SP and HP, 240 JSWC, Gold Dots and our cast 255 LSWC. Using my 240 or 255 cast LSWC and current stock of primers and powders, I can still load top end 44 mags for $10 per box of 50.
The problem I had when I got into 44mag hunting about 7 years ago was telling the difference between pistol loads and rifle loads. The ammo boxes have virtually NO information. They will tell you the grain weight of the bullet, but not the grain weight of the powder load. I ended up with some crap ammo that couldn't go thru a deer. My brother started hand loading me some 240 grain HTPs and the difference in how the gun shot and downed a deer was incredible! I then found White Box Winchester Deer and Bear 44mag. that shoots pretty comparable to those hand loads- and I can pretty consistently find it; which is huge.
Sorry, I miss-typed, I meant XTPs
The cost of 44 mag is why I went with the 77-357 version. You can also shoot 38 special out of that rifle but Ruger says you cannot shoot 44 special out of the 44 mag version.
Wunder why.
@@frankrodriguez9697 Rotary mag with a rimmed cartridge, looks like the way they're retaining them could let a .44spl slip forward ahead of the feed lip. Mag would just spit it out of the rifle in that state.
I have taken deer with the 240 hydro shock the bullet destroyed the inside but no exit with the same rig. I switched to the lever evolution and have been happy with the performance from a 14 inch barrel Thompson's Center
2.7% sales tax is nice! Averages 7% here in Utah.
I've taken whitetail with my TC Contender in 44mag, the Federal 240 JHP always worked for me. And handloaded a pistol cartridge is fast and easy.
Back in the early 2000's a "comedian" joked about gun control by making the ammo too $$$ to the point where it might not be worth killing the...
That was Chris Rock, if I recall correctly. Maybe why Will Smith slapped him across the face at that awards show? 🤣
It was Chris Rock...."If every bullet cost $5000, there wouldn't be no innocent bystanders..."
Black market exist 🤣 seriously, grantee 9mm comes by like nothing
I just checked my normal supplier (for the last three years), found they have Magtech at 34.99, that same Federal at 57.95, Fiocchi at 52.69, S&B for 39.05 and Armscor at 41.94. I will be happy to pass along their info if you are interested.
I have found the federal 240 grainers are very hot for factory loads if you can find them, I have found Winchester 240’s to be accurate.🙂👍
That is why in 1967, when I got my first Ruger Super Blackhawk 3screw, I started reloading for the 44, because even then, 44 mag loaded ammo prices were ridiculous. A pound of 2400 powder, which is what Elmer Keith always used for 44, was $1.89/lb. H4831 which I used for my 25-06 that I got in 1969 was $1.45/lb. I find today’s prices abhorrent, especially for the primers. Concerning the loads for the 44, I can attest that a Hornady XTP will reliably expand and drop a deer in either a pistol or rifle. In a 454 Casull with an XTP mag bullet, it is also lights out. If you decide to start loading look no further than a load of 21gr /2400/240 XTP or 23.5gr 296/240XTP or if you wanna smack a big hog 21 gr /296/310 gr.WFN hard cast GC, which is an absolute hammer. After 56 years of loading and shooting the 44, those are my recommendations. When I was at a gun shop in the early 70’s, and S&W model 29’s were virtually unobtainable, they had just delivered a case of model 29’s in all configurations, I purchased a 6 1/2” nickel for $399, which I thought was ridiculous, but through the years has shown what a great investment, sent it off and had it Magnaported, and made it such a pussycat to shoot. Good luck Who-T, I hope you develop such a love affair with the 44 as I have.
460 s&w over $60 for only 20 rounds after tax in spokane
Have You seen the prices here in California? Plus 19% of taxes on top of wherever was!!!
Oof
A long time back, we used 44s and 45s hydra-shocks and XTPs with sabots in 50cal muzzle loaders and they did fine on deer. ..a guess they probably were going 15-1600 fps.maybe a little more.
I bought my Super Redhawk in 454 last year. One of my prerequisites to buying it was that I needed to get into reloading first. That said, 45 Colt and 454 are in a similar cost bracket as 44 Mag. Over the years, I have found that S&B is cheaper than Federal plinking ammo if the caliber is produced.
TMC is total metal case. The entire bullet is encased in a copper jacket. No exposed lead. Those prices are ridiculous. I get that for about $50 a box.
I was gonna guess total metal coated. Why not just call it total metal jacket? Is it a different process?
@@rotisseriebear5394 Jacketed bullets have the back open exposing the lead, so they needed I different term.
I also reload 44 mag. It's one of many cartridges that I deer hunt with. The 240gr XTP is hard to beat for performance on a whitetail. Over a stout charge of H110, you'll get over 1900 fps out of it when using something that doesn't have a cylinder gap.
While I handload all my ammo, I just checked a couple of online sites, and they have 44 mag 240 JSP in PMC and Magtech for $36-$39 per box of 50.
That fed red box jhp 50 is $1³³ a fnd
If you shooters south of the border, think prices have gone up, take a gander of how us Canadians are being viciously gouged!
Yikes
Prices are ridiculous
Almost 20 bucks in taxes is ridiculous
Took a whitetail a couple weeks ago with a Marlin 1894 and leverevolution in .44 mag. I think it only partially opened, exit wound wasn't nearly as large as I was expecting, but she only made it 30 yards. Blood everywhere though and easy tracking through 6ft grass. Upside is unleaded meat.
Crazy prices for ammo. Absolutely all of it is a RIP-OFF
I have the same rifle and mine prefers the Winchester white box cheap loads. They perform well on whitetails although the farthest I have shot at one was about 80 yards. I love the speed of the short stroke bolt, hit a running buck 3 times in 35 yards.......not bragging it is just that smooth.
Ammo has gone crazy expensive over here across the pond also. Even the cheap ass S&B bulk boxes have gone up about 50%
I strongly agree with your opinion on the price of 44 mag ammo. It has become outrageously expensive. Back in 1991 when I bought my first RedHawks you could get a box of 50 hunting rounds for under 20 dollars
In the Hornady reloaders gide the velocity goes from 1400 fps to 1750 fps depending on powder from an 18 inch barrel
I’m old. So I’m of course not happy with ammo prices. But at least now you can actually buy ammo. Two years ago the shelves were bare. Actually no ammo.
And yeah. Reload. We’re starting to see more consistent primer, powder, and bullets for most calibers. Again, better than two years ago so I’m not gonna complain.
did you know that in wv;there is no tax on guns or ammo,truely a real free state!!!
so you guys dont pay into the pittman Robertson act?
@@timbjork2098they do, but it’s added on behind the scenes so most people don’t know about it.
@@timbjork2098that's a Federal tax
And California here has the city tax, which is about 8% plus a 11% ammo and gun tax. Sucks
You can buy 50 rifles and pistols at one time too!!! Lol mountaineer proud
I think the chamber pressure on the 45-70 is capped much lower from the black powder days so maybe the leverlution was meant for a higher velocity. Typically Hornady had put impact velocity design intentions in with the projectiles so you had and idea if it was suitable for the application.
A chronograph test of the 44 mag with the 225 and the 45-70 with the deer catcher round would be kind of interesting especially when compared in a gel block.
If youre gonna spend THAT much might as well get the good stuff from buffalo bore or underwood ammo
I’m a handloader, but it does take time. It’s obvious that time for handloading, in your case is in short supply. Thank you for working so hard making these videos. I enjoy every one of them.
That's like last year 35 Remington ammo was ridiculous if you could find it, sometimes 90 bucks a box. This year it came back but Remington wants 60 bucks a box which is a ripoff so I found some Federal Hammer Down for 33 bucks a box and the stuff is awesome accurate and my gun loves it so I bought 5 boxes lol
Wow
Hey Hootie play Hootie are you sure that you separate and identify your lover Evolution 44 Magnums because the case is slightly shorter than a standard loading thanks for the video
44 Mag has gotten to be a reloaders cartidge. Its so insane to buy loaded rounds today, but much less expensive to load your own. Especially if you cast your own. Starline brass is fairly cheap just add the ingredients and its much less costly than store bought these days. Once you have a pile of good brass just recycle.
He's upset about something fellars
Lol you weren't prepared for 44 mag prices! Gotta reload 44 mag.
Even 357 mag ammo is ridiculous. 45 a box
44 mag +P lead nasty
Costs my friends.... 🤑 💰
Great video, greetings from South Africa.
You have to reload. Save your brass.
I bought a .44 magnum single action several years ago and enjoyed it. After retiring, I bought a 3" S&W 629. The price of ammo HURTS! I'm currently re-doing my house but once I'm done, I'll be setting up the reloading press again.
Everything is a rip off now days
True
44 Magnum rounds have ALWAYS been expensive. That was why my dad always was a reloader. He reloaded ALL his pistol rounds and a LOT of his rifle rounds too.
Hard working dude always workin on something
Always
I actually use the Ammo Inc. 240 grain hollow points in my .44 mag lever gun and they do a great job. Shoot great and puts the deer down. The gun shop I got them from told me that they actually use Hornady lead in that Ammo. So I bought them. All I had shot before was Hornady and couldn’t find them. That was right after Covid when ammo was hard to get. I haven’t looked back. Great stuff.
Would not use the Hydro Shocks for deer hunting. Soft points would be better choice IMO
I will add if you reload and you can find them, Nosler makes/or made a 240 grain Partition that is the Bomb for the 44 Mag.
Agreed 100%
Damn, you might look into shipping a large order of ammo to keep the shipping costs down. My local gun shop went out of business and was run right by a nice older man, every year he'd gift me and others a box of ammo for Christmas.
l also can not stand being around people 😂 i live in Montana and rarely even go to Kalispell, and i definitely stay out missoula, those bigger cities excuse my language are complete shit holes and I don't even consider them part of montana the people there suck!!! They are rude and just have the city folk vibe
A lot of California transplants in both cities.
BINGO
Don't sugar coat it , tell us how you really feel.
In comments on a different channel I heard a couple big cities in Montana called the “Banana Belt” because it doesn’t get quite as cold and snowy as much of the rest of the state.
Cities here in Maine are lefty shitholes. I stay in the rural wooded region
Funny comments about Murfreesboro! Agree - it used to be a manageable size large town - now it's just an extension of Nashville. I hate going there anymore.
Same
Hornady XTP is all I load any more.
I’ve got a few boxes from years ago 😮. They prices are quadrupled !! But here in mass they add another big tax on us .. soon I’m outta here ret👨🏻🚒 & no longer need the 💩 from the state !
TMC, total
Metal
Case
Thought it is total metal core ?
@@charlesmorgan1879 LOL
Truncated metal case
@10088GILLEY I would not think of the word truncated!!!! Thanks
Outpost armory. Lol
We love you brother. Keep up the good work.
God bless
Yup outpost
@WHOTEEWHO
They usually have what ya looking for but they think ALOT of their stuff.
I've bought several guns from them but more from Tollivers.
Have a good day brother.
God bless.
I have a Colt Anaconda. The ammo is why she's a safe queen except during hunting season, when she sits on my chest while we wait for Bambi & Yogi lol.
One other factory load I used in the .44 Magnum were the 330 grain hard cast lead Hammerheads from Garrett Ammunition. Those could only be used in a Ruger Super Redhawk revolver because of the OAL. They penetrated deep and killed like lightening, even on thin skinned game.
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Thanks for sharing brother 😁🙏, eather one is fine with me man , guess we will find out.
My son got a Henry 45-70. Has his reasons which I understand. I tried to get him to go with a 308 Long Ranger but, no. 45-70. And then he started looking at ammunition prices after he got the rifle. YOWZAH! He instantly started asking questions about reloading ammunition for it.
Reloading is the only way to get the very best performance from 45-70. Most factory ammo in 45-70 sucks. Wish he would've spent the money on a ruger made marlin 45-70 or got a jm stamped used marlin because they are superior firearms to the henry, in my eyes at least. But hey, to each their own. Henry firearms are highly overrated in my opinion.
I Ave a 44 magnum Winchester 94, and I run the revaluation, so it protects from accidental primer ignition in the ammo tube. In a bolt cation, that'd be cool to have. Years ago I saw a 44 magnum Ruger semi auto, Walnut stock at a flea market for $600. I didn't have the money then. But I'd sure get it now.