Explore the fiery origins of Earth and the cataclysmic event that created the Moon. Discover the mysteries of Theia, the planet that collided with Earth, shaping our world as we know it.
My day started waking up at 3am for work on a day I didn't need to. I've had an incredibly peaceful bike ride, a wonderful breakfast, and now I've found a Simon Whistler channel about space I didn't know existed. It's a fucking good day.
Did I already know all this information? Yep. Does that matter? Nah. Simon does an excellent job narrating and it's been a couple years since I refreshed my knowledge on this subject anyway. Thanks Simon! Bang up job as usual!
Actually, while I've absorbed quite a bit of astronomical knowledge over the years, this video still contained some new nuggets of information! Not that I wouldn't have watched the video otherwise, or minded the lack of information...
Knowledge is something no other person can say he knows everything, there's always something coming up, so always appreciate the efforts of others brother.
Fuckin love astrographics. Way more comprehensible and entertaining than other space channels. I also love the variety this channel adds to the subject. Great work, I always look forward to the next video!
Marvelous! The script had a perfect balance of precision and poetry to tell the tale, and presented with an invigorating inspiration as always. While I love the improvisational, explorational side-path littered form of Decoding the Unknown, it is also a pleasure to hear this sort of direct and stylized performance. The writing on this one was particularly suitable for this kind of bardic offering. I could totally see playing this for a classroom, especially with the appropriate visuals that were included as well.
Without this collision earth would be far less habitable. The moon creates the tides and the allows the seasons without too much wobble. Also added water and a bigger mantle to generate our magnetosphere. It’s one of the many bizarre lucky moments that makes me think intelligent life is beyond rare
I'm certain it's exceedingly rare on a local scale. On a galactic scale I would bet it's not unusual. On a universal scale I would bet it's incredibly common. Despite everything that might have needed to go right for complex life to flourish on Earth... there is simply too many stars and planets to think billions of them aren't somewhat similar to Earth.
Not just that, but scraping off a chunk of the crust also thinned the crust which allows for more volcanism which increases the amount of biologically beneficial material that can make it up from below which might have kick-started life, and without it we might not have plate tectonics, hell we might be stuck as snowball earth
It was painful and had to be muted, I'm glad I saw your comment cuz I've had an infection-induced fever for days and thought I was makin the noise up when I initially didn't see anyone else mention that terrible noise lol
A.I. and 3D printing and a lot of raw meat, maybe mutton or beef = Simon Whistlers He's probably made at least two by now, possibly even three or four. It's why they're all bald, because making realistic hair is very hard. But using fake beards and glasses works, and well
Really loving this channel. I hope you keep growing it, as it is one of the best in the Whistlerverse. I know there are many ideas out there you can delve in to, and I'm always glad to see an Astrographics notification 😊! Thank you for the new episode, great topic, very much enjoyed!
I was waiting to hear you say chunks of theia may be in earth's mantel. They have find what they think could be just that. Good video stay safe stay vigilant my friend God bless...
Wonder if it was the sudden steam release when the two planets collided- provided theia was water bearing - that sparked the formation of our atmo and ozone. It would have pumped billions of tons of hydrogen and oxygen into the air if an ice planet crashed at all, but into a firely planet indeed.
Simon…been followin you since you started your channels. Videos with the other guy just aren’t the same. Your beard has gotten quite full and large. Great vids!!
The original source of the moon is speculative but what is known is without the moon the earth would wobble on its axis so much that rapid, drastic seasonal changes would probably keep higher life forms, like humans, from developing.
Still say you should negotiate geographics and biographics back from that channel you used to work for, then change places to placeographics and become the Ographics Bossman!
@@jacob4920 nah. Thats to off brand! It woukd have to be Simonographics or Factographics, or Factboiographicd, but the problem is simon has several channels that dont ographics well. Lol Mega and side projects, casual criminalist, into the shadows.....
My personal opinion about Theia: While the core and larger elements did fuse with Earth's core as the Giant Impact hypothesis suggests, I think that the oblique angle of impact wouldn't lead to escape velocity for mass majority. Instead, I believe that the impact coupled with the relatively higher gravity of Earth (compared to Theia) would have captured the ruined remnants of Theia, which then re-coalesced over time into what we now know as our moon. I find it more interesting to believe that Luna (our moon) is in fact the reformed corpse of Theia.
@@righty-o3585 actually Jupiters gravity effects all the planets and moons in our system. It’s massive. It’s not super significant. But ever so slightly tugs on all the planets, mercury’s daisy pattern orbit is because of the tug between the sun, mercurys velocity, and Jupiter. Eventually Jupiter will wreak havoc through the system in the distant future.. a second grand tact is likely.. we will be long gone when that may happen
@@djjeeveslarue3499 The Sun would dramatically out-pull Jupiter, considering one object is several hundred million miles closer to us, and several thousand times more massive. But that's just me...
There's even a scene, in the movie "The Core," where, the team of scientists sent to the Earth's core, to restart the planet's core-rotation, actually crash into some "unknown gigantic mass," that turns out to be a mostly-cobalt infused GEODE! A geode that should not exist in Earth's mantle. Yet it does, for some reason. Ever since hearing about the theoretical "Theia Chunks" in our mantle, I always wondered if this movie was referencing that anomaly, in some way, by inserting this scene??
'The water your drinking right now', come on this is youtube, chances are a lot of people are watching at the other end of that particular bodily cycle 🚽😁
12:44 Fun Fact: That's why the scientists at NASA were so surprised that the moon continued to reverberate for as long as it did, when they deliberately crashed the used parts of their vehicle into the moon. NOT because it's Hollow, but because it is made of different material than they had originally thought it is made. 🤓
What was a large body doing orbiting the sun at 45 degrees to the ecliptic? And why did it emerge at a different angle, essentially in the same plane as the ecliptic? Does the answer to that question apply to the moons of Uranus, given their very different orbital planes? Finally, if there was a collision then why does one body have water and an atmosphere and the other have none?
I love listening to Simon but I do struggle with this theory, just like a lot of other theories of how the moon became to be. Like most theories they just seem to fit the evidence that are available at the time. At least it does until another explanation which makes more sense for the data available at that time.
The thing about science is that it's all guesses. And i don't mean that in a bad way. That's the beauty of science, that nothing is ever truly considered a fact. Prople usually get the scientific method backwards. The goal isn't to eventually prove something right, it's to keep testing until there's nothing else you can do to prove it wrong. And then if something comes along that allows you to test the hypothesis further, you try to prove it wrong again.
Call it a theory instead of a guess. It´s more than a guess. Solid science backs up this theory of Theia. In fact it´s very hard to come up with an alternate theory that can´t be shot down instantly.
This argument is dodgy AF. The absence of a better argument doesn't turn it from a hypothesis into an incontrovertible fact. It's still a guess, as is all science. Where did you go to school? Who taught you?
The funny thing about this theory is the fact there is essentially zero remnants of the accretion disk that the impact of Earth wouldve produced. You'd think that there would be SOME orbiting debris , even now.
Possibly those anomalies in the Moon's geological structure, could be down to small impacts when it was forming, maybe even at different points during its development, into our large natural satellite? 🤔
Does this channel still exist? I figured it had died as a sacrifice to the algorithmic gods already (but don't get me wrong, I love this stuff, especially from Simon)
The key word is "hypothesis." In science that means it is a proposed explanation with proposed experiments design to confirm or dismiss the proposed explanation. What the average person would say would be what they think is the answer but they have not proven to be true. A scientific hypothesis is what the average person would call a theory.
To go into a higher orbit the orbiter must gain velocity/energy. If it loses energy/velocity it goes into a lower orbit. Question : Why/how is the Moon moving farther away (increasing its orbit)?
Oooo! What if our planet or Theia was a super advanced in technology 10s of billions of years ago, but the collision wiped all forms of such technology out?
You didn't mention this: In 2023, astronomers and geophysicists in the US, the UK, and China suggest that anomalies in Earth's lowermost mantle are “relics of Theia mantle material.” These anomalies are large low-velocity provinces (LLVPs), or characteristics of Earth's mantle identified via seismic tomography.
This is so close to what happened, it was nighttime and it wasn't over in hours but took closer to two years albeit for those who survived it seemed an eternity. Toxic plumes of gas as well as the occasional raining of small rock debris made life insufferable for the next thousand years..
What happened to the hot earth heating the near side of the moon and driving vaporized material to the far side to cool and thus building a thick crust? Now it was caused by a 1 in a 1000 hit by some debris on the near side and slinging it to the far side. That sounds less plausible.
Were there any Theians, that is living beings on the planet? If so, they thought of it not a Theia smashing into Earth, but as this big planet that came along and smashed into them, ruining everything. Then getting gifted with abundant drinking water as a result. Theians would have cause to be pissed at us.
There has to be more than one Simon. Videos on different channels will come out within hours of each other and his beard will be inches different in length.
My day started waking up at 3am for work on a day I didn't need to. I've had an incredibly peaceful bike ride, a wonderful breakfast, and now I've found a Simon Whistler channel about space I didn't know existed. It's a fucking good day.
Did I already know all this information? Yep. Does that matter? Nah. Simon does an excellent job narrating and it's been a couple years since I refreshed my knowledge on this subject anyway.
Thanks Simon! Bang up job as usual!
Actually, while I've absorbed quite a bit of astronomical knowledge over the years, this video still contained some new nuggets of information!
Not that I wouldn't have watched the video otherwise, or minded the lack of information...
Exactly what I wanted to say! Liking the music choices too! Thank you Simon and team!!
Knowledge is something no other person can say he knows everything, there's always something coming up, so always appreciate the efforts of others brother.
Last time I was this early, earth was still in its primordial state
Lol
Booooo u suck 😂😂
Liar, I'm calling you out!
Do you mean Hadean state?
Damn you're old af.
I'm old enough to remember when "theia" was a fringe idea 😂
Love the new channel fact boy! You can do longer episodes I won't be upset I promise lol.
Yes, seconded
Fuckin love astrographics. Way more comprehensible and entertaining than other space channels. I also love the variety this channel adds to the subject. Great work, I always look forward to the next video!
Marvelous! The script had a perfect balance of precision and poetry to tell the tale, and presented with an invigorating inspiration as always.
While I love the improvisational, explorational side-path littered form of Decoding the Unknown, it is also a pleasure to hear this sort of direct and stylized performance. The writing on this one was particularly suitable for this kind of bardic offering. I could totally see playing this for a classroom, especially with the appropriate visuals that were included as well.
Without this collision earth would be far less habitable. The moon creates the tides and the allows the seasons without too much wobble. Also added water and a bigger mantle to generate our magnetosphere. It’s one of the many bizarre lucky moments that makes me think intelligent life is beyond rare
I'm certain it's exceedingly rare on a local scale.
On a galactic scale I would bet it's not unusual.
On a universal scale I would bet it's incredibly common.
Despite everything that might have needed to go right for complex life to flourish on Earth... there is simply too many stars and planets to think billions of them aren't somewhat similar to Earth.
Not just that, but scraping off a chunk of the crust also thinned the crust which allows for more volcanism which increases the amount of biologically beneficial material that can make it up from below which might have kick-started life, and without it we might not have plate tectonics, hell we might be stuck as snowball earth
Fascinating topic! Only comment is the background music has a high frequency (whistle like) that is a bit distracting when listening on headphones
It was painful and had to be muted, I'm glad I saw your comment cuz I've had an infection-induced fever for days and thought I was makin the noise up when I initially didn't see anyone else mention that terrible noise lol
What's really out of this world is how Simon runs so many channels!
A.I. and 3D printing and a lot of raw meat, maybe mutton or beef = Simon Whistlers
He's probably made at least two by now, possibly even three or four.
It's why they're all bald, because making realistic hair is very hard. But using fake beards and glasses works, and well
Bam! There you go, planet nine is right here
Terra and Theia smashed and Luna was born.
Really loving this channel. I hope you keep growing it, as it is one of the best in the Whistlerverse. I know there are many ideas out there you can delve in to, and I'm always glad to see an Astrographics notification 😊! Thank you for the new episode, great topic, very much enjoyed!
This is one of my favorite channels. Thank you for creating it.
Yes more of this. Factboy serving it up thank you friend.
I was waiting to hear you say chunks of theia may be in earth's mantel. They have find what they think could be just that. Good video stay safe stay vigilant my friend God bless...
You make really good videos. Glad I found your channel.
Another great episode. Thoroughly enjoyed
YAY! new vid! love this channel!
It has been said there are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on the Earth. True. The stars are as numerous as TH-cam channels Simon has.
Wonder if it was the sudden steam release when the two planets collided- provided theia was water bearing - that sparked the formation of our atmo and ozone. It would have pumped billions of tons of hydrogen and oxygen into the air if an ice planet crashed at all, but into a firely planet indeed.
Great Video! Subscribed!
Every other week or so I’m finding a new channel from Simon and I just sub no questions.
13:48, i was waiting, hoping you'd mention the most up to date stuff!😃
It's cool not seeing a new Simon video in a short while and seeing his beard has grown exponentially since
He said "URANUS" again.
This never gets old.😂
Oh it gets old after a while…..
That's not what Space Penis said... @@Timbo6669
I like to think that you talk like this in real life when not doing youtube.
He talks more naturally when casually interacting with the scripts on his Brain Blaze and Decoding the Unknown channels
Okay i did not know simon had another channel and am absolutely subbing 😂
Simon…been followin you since you started your channels. Videos with the other guy just aren’t the same. Your beard has gotten quite full and large. Great vids!!
ahhh so nice to get some good space stuff fact boi.
thank you Theia for giving your life for all life on Dirt, I mean Earth. With an added bonus of 2 moons that formed into one so mom can watch over us.
I found a new fact boy channel!!! Happy day
The original source of the moon is speculative but what is known is without the moon the earth would wobble on its axis so much that rapid, drastic seasonal changes would probably keep higher life forms, like humans, from developing.
thank you Theia for my coffee infused water this morning
Still say you should negotiate geographics and biographics back from that channel you used to work for, then change places to placeographics and become the Ographics Bossman!
"Boss-ographics" could be the name of the channel, as a whole. lol
@@jacob4920 nah. Thats to off brand! It woukd have to be Simonographics or Factographics, or Factboiographicd, but the problem is simon has several channels that dont ographics well. Lol Mega and side projects, casual criminalist, into the shadows.....
Thank you momma Theia for giving us our moon, we love her very much.
I love to see Simon explain in full the Fermi paradox
My personal opinion about Theia: While the core and larger elements did fuse with Earth's core as the Giant Impact hypothesis suggests, I think that the oblique angle of impact wouldn't lead to escape velocity for mass majority. Instead, I believe that the impact coupled with the relatively higher gravity of Earth (compared to Theia) would have captured the ruined remnants of Theia, which then re-coalesced over time into what we now know as our moon. I find it more interesting to believe that Luna (our moon) is in fact the reformed corpse of Theia.
How the hell are there still Simon channels I have not found yet. Man is insane
There is also the fact that the moon is slowly moving away from earth, which would make sense if the moon came from a glancing impact .
Also add in Jupiter’s gravity.. it’s trying to steal our moon!!
@@djjeeveslarue3499 I'm not sure Jupiter gravity has any significant pull out this far .
@@righty-o3585 actually Jupiters gravity effects all the planets and moons in our system. It’s massive. It’s not super significant. But ever so slightly tugs on all the planets, mercury’s daisy pattern orbit is because of the tug between the sun, mercurys velocity, and Jupiter. Eventually Jupiter will wreak havoc through the system in the distant future.. a second grand tact is likely.. we will be long gone when that may happen
@@djjeeveslarue3499 The Sun would dramatically out-pull Jupiter, considering one object is several hundred million miles closer to us, and several thousand times more massive. But that's just me...
Wow... another channel Simon ? Well done that man ! You're starting to dominate my watch time.
Sweet new factboi channel
The mantle "blobs"! OMG now that you mention it, it's so obvious! That makes so much sense.
There's even a scene, in the movie "The Core," where, the team of scientists sent to the Earth's core, to restart the planet's core-rotation, actually crash into some "unknown gigantic mass," that turns out to be a mostly-cobalt infused GEODE! A geode that should not exist in Earth's mantle. Yet it does, for some reason. Ever since hearing about the theoretical "Theia Chunks" in our mantle, I always wondered if this movie was referencing that anomaly, in some way, by inserting this scene??
@@jacob4920 Most likely just a lucky guess, because it wouldn't be Cobalt.
Imagine not knowing about this channel
Let’s keep in mind that earth’s 23 (+/-) degree tilt works nicely into the impact hypothesis.
'The water your drinking right now', come on this is youtube, chances are a lot of people are watching at the other end of that particular bodily cycle 🚽😁
How would someone contact the research team(s) looking into this event?
"Tide goes in tide goes out. You can't explain that....How did the moon get there?"
Simon, i love you.
Huh, neat. This is like the fourth or fifth video I’ve seen about this in the last week.
You missed the latest theory: Theia was a bit bigger. It hit, lost it's crust and water then kept on going to become.... Mercury.
Would be interesting if the initial impact happened between Mars and Jupiter. That kind of impact would litter the orbital path with clear signs
My sources say it wasn't called Theia, but Tiamat... But either way, I love this story.
How did it smash through the dome?
Is this Morgan Freeman opening up on the world's creation? Or Simon doing a space-based show, that TH-cam suggested? Regardless, happy to subscribe!
12:44 Fun Fact: That's why the scientists at NASA were so surprised that the moon continued to reverberate for as long as it did, when they deliberately crashed the used parts of their vehicle into the moon.
NOT because it's Hollow, but because it is made of different material than they had originally thought it is made.
🤓
I Just found another of Simons channels, it will be added to the collection
Yo Theia... It's not my first time smashing it.
🤦 Early Earth was a Chad. 4:05
What was a large body doing orbiting the sun at 45 degrees to the ecliptic? And why did it emerge at a different angle, essentially in the same plane as the ecliptic? Does the answer to that question apply to the moons of Uranus, given their very different orbital planes? Finally, if there was a collision then why does one body have water and an atmosphere and the other have none?
Sometimes the story is SO good, it has to be true
Let’s gooooo
Dear lord how many channels does this guy have
How many pairs of glasses does Simon have?
these are fake. he had eye surgery recently and uses the fake ones as part of his brand
Wtf Simon has ANOTHER channel? Dude is/has taken over the Internet
I know a great many things about Theia you won't find anywhere else.
I love listening to Simon but I do struggle with this theory, just like a lot of other theories of how the moon became to be. Like most theories they just seem to fit the evidence that are available at the time. At least it does until another explanation which makes more sense for the data available at that time.
The thing about science is that it's all guesses. And i don't mean that in a bad way. That's the beauty of science, that nothing is ever truly considered a fact. Prople usually get the scientific method backwards. The goal isn't to eventually prove something right, it's to keep testing until there's nothing else you can do to prove it wrong. And then if something comes along that allows you to test the hypothesis further, you try to prove it wrong again.
Call it a theory instead of a guess. It´s more than a guess. Solid science backs up this theory of Theia. In fact it´s very hard to come up with an alternate theory that can´t be shot down instantly.
This argument is dodgy AF. The absence of a better argument doesn't turn it from a hypothesis into an incontrovertible fact. It's still a guess, as is all science.
Where did you go to school? Who taught you?
The funny thing about this theory is the fact there is essentially zero remnants of the accretion disk that the impact of Earth wouldve produced. You'd think that there would be SOME orbiting debris , even now.
Thea also likely gave us most of our water, AND it is possible that it is Mercury.
Possibly those anomalies in the Moon's geological structure, could be down to small impacts when it was forming, maybe even at different points during its development, into our large natural satellite? 🤔
I need to brag a little because I'mjust proud of it and think its beautiful. I have this event tattooed on my ribs :)
How many TH-cam channels does this guy have?
And then we came along.
had to watch on mute, the dinging in the background was hell
Simon why would you use mud as an example when custard is right there?
Yes... Soon, Simon will be the only narrator on every channel.
Does this channel still exist? I figured it had died as a sacrifice to the algorithmic gods already (but don't get me wrong, I love this stuff, especially from Simon)
The key word is "hypothesis." In science that means it is a proposed explanation with proposed experiments design to confirm or dismiss the proposed explanation. What the average person would say would be what they think is the answer but they have not proven to be true.
A scientific hypothesis is what the average person would call a theory.
To go into a higher orbit the orbiter must gain velocity/energy. If it loses energy/velocity it goes into a lower orbit. Question : Why/how is the Moon moving farther away (increasing its orbit)?
Its pull on the tides is causing the Earth to spin slower which in turn makes the moon drift farther
I saw a prog on here about the craton under Africa, it trapped carbon deep enough to cook it into diamonds,,
I hope there's no life in Theia when it collide.
Oooo! What if our planet or Theia was a super advanced in technology 10s of billions of years ago, but the collision wiped all forms of such technology out?
Self defeating idea. If they were super advanced in technology, they wouldn't have been destroyed or let it happen in the first place.
😅
You didn't mention this:
In 2023, astronomers and geophysicists in the US, the UK, and China suggest that anomalies in Earth's lowermost mantle are “relics of Theia mantle material.” These anomalies are large low-velocity provinces (LLVPs), or characteristics of Earth's mantle identified via seismic tomography.
If Romeo and Juliet had been created by a giant impact, it would have been a much more exciting play!
The Big Bang for the Universe. The Big Splat for the Moon.
Earth: Aye bro watch yo jet... Watch yo JET BRO!!! WATCH YO JET- 💥💥💥💥
TH-cam is now officially 99% Simon Whistler!
This is so close to what happened, it was nighttime and it wasn't over in hours but took closer to two years albeit for those who survived it seemed an eternity. Toxic plumes of gas as well as the occasional raining of small rock debris made life insufferable for the next thousand years..
Is that from a movie or something? It's always nighttime for half the planet.
What happened to the hot earth heating the near side of the moon and driving vaporized material to the far side to cool and thus building a thick crust? Now it was caused by a 1 in a 1000 hit by some debris on the near side and slinging it to the far side. That sounds less plausible.
Maybe this scenario explains the approximately every 600,000 years magnetic reversal..... only the Moon knows the answer!!🌕
Were there any Theians, that is living beings on the planet? If so, they thought of it not a Theia smashing into Earth, but as this big planet that came along and smashed into them, ruining everything. Then getting gifted with abundant drinking water as a result. Theians would have cause to be pissed at us.
Maybe how you got your moon. 🤔
The hadian eon those were the days good times
Everybody knows that the moon was formed by the Mondachiuan stopping the evil orb from impacting the Earth using The Fifth Element, love.
The sky god Uranus... how dare you!
Yep - Theia
I knew about this.
4.4 billion years ago wasn't it?
A Tuesday if I recall correctly... traffic was kinda crazy that day :P
Is there anywhere Simon isn't ? Maybe he's celestial ?
Is his head A break off from the Collision ?
Answers are needed
2:46 don't be daft, it comes from the Council
There has to be more than one Simon. Videos on different channels will come out within hours of each other and his beard will be inches different in length.