You're one of those kids that WWE is catering to, so fair enough. They have no real storylines but as long as there are tons of spots we've seen a million times and broken chairs and ladders scattered around the ringside it's "epic" for you.
+Angry American i understand my channel is shit, but go to my rocky montage video, thats me (2 years ago) then look at the guy holding the sign. no bullshit here, they said theyd down their drinks if there was a whatculture sign, i commented on that video saying ill be in the aisle roman walks down and i will have a sign.
oh god yes. i was there and it was like crazy how loud it was. but the craziest thing was "we want cena" chants during the roman match. actually i think it happened a few times but the times it happened, those chants were LOUD
Hmmmm...The ending was great. Roman became a badass (which probably on Raw he'll go back to tatertottering lol). Honestly, I like where it's heading for the time being.
+Joseph Su'a ya I will say that roman freaking out and attacking everyone really worked pretty well. I liked it even though I did immediately realize they pulled it from steve austin
+William Fitzsimmons triple h isn't Vince mcmahon. Vince mcmahon had no redeeming good about him. triple h constantly breaks kayfabe and does great things on tv. it can be argued that Triple H is a good guy. so roman beating the shit out of him isn't so clearly badass
You have been asking for Reigns to show that bad-ass side and just beat the shit out of people - when he does that you complain that it's not organic? So Bryan going against the Authority was a copy of Steve Austin too? Reigns had a great showing last night and you're just nitpicking.
+Deniz Ronayne have to agree, the fact he slightly won the crowd over tells you something, silent destroyer Reigns is a million times more marketable than wisecracking Jock Reigns
+Deniz Ronayne No the Austin thing was about Austin beating up Vince. The Bryan thing was about the authority trying to keep the title of him. Two separate stories completely. You are also making the mistake of thinking that just because someone can keep going through everything makes them good. It just means that he no sold peoples finishers so they could do what they wanted in the match. He looked INVINCIBLE, not great like Rollins at Night of Champions, invincible like Super-Cena. They need to find a niche or a gimmick for Reigns that works not just giving him other peoples gimmicks until something sticks.
Bryan won people over by being great and being and underdog stone cold won people over by being a bad ass and by being hilarious Roman Reigns is getting put on our screens because of the way he looks and the family he has had in the business you can't make fans like someone it has to happen naturally I don't think anyone hates Roman just the way he's been shoved down our throats
As a spot-fest or even a collection of matches, TLC was pretty decent. But in terms of storylines and furthering feuds, this was terrible. Agree with the points on the spot of the night being in the first match (amazing Salida Del Sol) and the endless drubbing of Triple H to the point that I felt like I was watching a heel batter a babyface, but thought the Divas match was pretty good myself. ADAM, I will continue to aim to get you on the EWN Podcast for the rest of time.
Even my Girlfriend's Brother called that the League of nations would come out and help Shamus. Why?!? WWE is becoming so boring because seriously......Shamus as Champion is so Dull you could Fall asleep.
+xLegendaryPete i don't have any problem with sheamus being champ i have problem that how roman could beat 1 us champ 1 World heavy weight champ and 2 wrestlers
Reigns did get a massive babyface reaction though after beating the crap out of HHH. Because he was being booked as a legit unstoppable bad ass who gives no fucks. He doesn't have to turn heel for his character to become likable. He just needs to talk less and kick ass more. And when he does talk there should be no corny jokes, no smiling & no child like crap. Just get to the point and beat people up!
The question now is: How long are Reigns' cheers gonna last ? He was going against The Authority (which no one really likes) so obviously he is gonna be the favourite. But how will it be when that is over ?
Sorry Blampied but you're wrong about Reigns not getting cheered. He got booed beforehand, by the time he was done with HHH he was cheered and getting "Thank you Roman". This is how you book Reigns. It's a shame because I'm a huge fan of you and the channel, but you're clearly just nitpicking here because you can't accept Reigns won over sceptical fans and didn't need to turn heel Great start, great finish, a lot of meh in the middle. Kalisto MVP
"Why aren't you cheering?" Are you deaf?? You obviously didn't hear the cheers and the "Thank you Roman". Also the matches were good. Stop being such a smark
I think I'm going to unsub from this channel. Everything Adam says is so IWC and smarky, looking for any little thing to complain about, even when it was a pretty good show like TLC was. "Roman Reigns just hit an old man...a lot." So now HHH is an old man? No mention of that any other time he's gotten in fights the last couple years, and what about Tommy Dreamer who had an actual match that night? "Control C, control V. Why aren't you cheering??" Ya, because there hasn't ALWAYS been a wrestler who fights an authority figure for the last 20+ years.
Triple h is older than tommy dreamer lol by only two years but still older search it up I'm not lying and he isn't the one saying "why aren't you cheering" he is saying it from the wwe's stand point of view because it seems to Adam and to a lot of other people that they're just putting roman into other peoples story lines and hoping it will work because they can't make any charisma for the guy or any unique character...he had unique character in the shield and well they buried that so they need to do something and beating up an old man (46) just isn't it
+Johnathan Hipwell Roman has got charisma (not as much as some but still more that most) the thing that is killing Roman is him not being able to be himself
Really disagree with almost everything in this review. The end of the PPV was well done and finally made Roman look like an unshackled powerhouse. The tag triple threat was very good, and the IC title match was decent. Overall it punched above it's weight as a lesser PPV.
Honestly I can agree with you except for Reigns. Look, I hated him and how they were booking him as the next Cena/Bryan but at least they made him what he's born to do. Be a badass. He snapped and the crowd LOVED IT, I loved it. They were cheering YES chants and "Thank You Roman" chants. It was kinda a spot-spot PPV (Loved Ambrose winning btw) but that ending was great and the reaction of the crowd and the WWE Universe proves it. Bad ass Roman Reigns is the best Roman Reigns. (If they could make him heel it'd perfect lol)
*This is How WWE Should book RTWM*: At TLC, Roman beats Sheamus for the title. How? Easy, CHEATING. Roman turns heel and stands as the champion. Next night, on RAW, Roman turns his back to his "fans", and talks about how he is the next big thing and the WWE Universe doesn't appreciate talent *blablabla* and when he was bout to finish....*SETH ROLLINS MUSIC HITS* (let me dream) It causes a HUGE TITANIC POP, everyone goes wild, and he enters with the title, he enters the ring, and stands head to head with Reigns, both have the title, (kinda like Cena and Punk in 2011) And they fight for the title at the Rumble, it's spear, after pedigree, after curb stomp (let me dream) At the end, Roman spears and pins Seth, Seth's foot is on the ropes, but the ref doesn't see it, and he wins. Later on that night, Dean Ambrose wins the Rumble 2016. At the next RAW, Seth and Roman are discussing over who is the champion. "You didn't beat me *blablabla* " "Yes I did *blablabla* " and Dean's music hits and the three are standing in the ring, no words, it's on. At FastLane It's Team Reigns (Reings and Owens) vs. Team Dean (Dean and Ryback) vs. Team Seth (Seth and LESNAR) Lesnar betrayed Seth and Team Reigns pick up the victory. At WM is Reigns vs. Seth vs. Dean for the title, a No Holds Barred. An amazing match, Seth is outside the ring, and Roman is about to spear Dean, when he was on his way (running) Seth outta nowhere does a Curb Stomp from the third rope, Dean inmediatly does A Dirty Deeds on Seth and wins. Dean then loses the title against Seth at Summerslam. *It's unrealistic, but let's dream for it at WM 33*
Just one stupid thing.Scratch the part where Seth and Roman have 2 identical titles.That's pretty retarded since there's no need for a 2nd WWEWHC title.Also this is not how they should book cause they CAN'T book it like that
+WWELoquendoY2J >Cheating in a no DQ match and trying to cause a face turn by beating up the biggest heel in the company (sad to say) I love when ideas fall apart in the first sentence.
Team ECW vs Wyatt Family was for me a real disappointment. On the paper and personnal opinion, it was the best match on the card but in the "Reality Era" it was a mess, not even 15 min of match for a 4 vs 4 Elimination tables match ?! Tease a table to be set in fire and... nope ! Don't tell me after a chaos like this, Vince was like this : "I don't understand why my rating is still low" damn ....
"Turn Reigns heel." Sounds a lot like a certain other Superman I know. Really, if creative is dead-set on making Reigns the next Cena, the guy who's supposed to be the face of the company and carry everything on his shoulders, then they're just going to repeat the process and never turn him heel. Let's go Roman/Roman sucks. Then again, he's only been on TV for 3 years so there's plenty of time for change, but of course this is WWE we're talking about here and they seem to vehemently dislike change.
I disagree, Austin beat up McMahon because he wanted to, he didn't want to be told what to do. And he did it for the fans. Reigns is doing it because he's pissed.
This time it seemed like the people were getting behind Roman, after the spear on Trips there was a very loud "thank you Roman" chant ... unless I had too much to drink.
+StarryStarryNocturne i was there live. it might not have been unanimous, but the cheers were significantly louder than any boos. plus he raw closed with him being cheered by the majority or phillie... the same town/arena that booed him the fuck out of the royal rumble
SimpleStinkfish The thank you chant was louder, but the boos were still audibly underneath, then when the chat died out, the boos were louder than the smattering of claps that could be heard underneath. And I don't know if the WWE screened the audience's gender ratio, but I could swear that 95% of his pop on Raw was comprised of squeaky, high-pitched voices. It just sounded like a lot of women and children showed up to this show. Again, Roman made progress at TLC, but you can't see he's over yet. There's still LOTS of work for creative and for Roman to do to get him legitimately over.
Not to mention, the most uniform applause Roman got Monday Night was when he called the McMahon family a disgrace, that's something everyone would agree on, considering Vince is behind all the crap of the past several weeks and beyond. Miz would've gotten that kind of pop saying the same thing lol.
I actually like that Reigns has morphed from a Cena/Hogan superhero into an Austin/Nash antihero, I think it works well like this and I can really get behind him now, more than if he was a heel (which he did great on NXT).
i was shocked (probably just because the entire arena erupted around me) but like i love ambrose but i didnt want him to win that title. now owens is either left out to dry (or shove him into the world title picture) and ambrose is now cursed with the midcard title. i personally think if he is around a title it should be the world title, and he should always be the hunter. hes better when hes the hunted. now he has the ic title, he is the champion, but now hes the hunted. it doesnt feel right to me
I think you were a tad bit harsh on TLC 2015 Adam. I thought it was wonderful! Even the chairs match wasn't all that bad. The chair "sword fight" in the beginning was pretty sick. And the corner stomp onto the chairs was cool too.
i agree with you Adam, when you said WWE is not sure how to book Roman Reigns either a John Cena, Stone Cold or a Daniel Bryan. LET ROMAN BE HIMSELF and it doesn't matter, he is already over to a certain degree.
100% agree there Adam. My biggest problem honestly wasn't the copy and paste Roman=Austin job. Instead, I'm genuinely confused that a lot of fans think its new writing for Roman, and that its a good direction. I think people forget that this whole Authority v. Roman thing has been going on and off for months. I mean christ, we saw Roman spear HHH less than a month ago, at the last PPV! That's not new, its the same stuff they've been doing for months now. If it leads somewhere new, then great. But as of right now, its the same old WWE writing.
Honestly I thought Roman Reigns running up the ladder and doing that little punch of his was pretty sick, but aside from that the only majorly interesting thing that happened in the PPV was that amazing tag match + Xavier on commentary. Holy shit I haven't enjoy a tag match in a long time, so that was special. Overall the PPV wasn't bad, but the main event just didn't feel main event quality. The fact that people were asking for CENA during the match and only chanted positively for Reigns in the events that came AFTER the match proves that. Meanwhile the arena exploded with "HOLY SHIT" after the Salida del Sol off the ladder. Good times.
Hmm, I agree with most bar Roman's semi-ambush of HHH. Yes, turning him heel makes everyone happy, so they can boo him (or cheer him if you're a 12 year old boy or every woman on earth) but honestly, the last segment was actually pretty good. We do complain about how there's no superstar like D-Bry or Austin, then bitch about the fact that someone even dares to try and copy or emulate him. Roman has a lane that everyone but WWE can see; put him on the show and let him destroy everything. Not to talk and do schtick for 3 minutes (or an hour depending on your tolerance of food based PG jokes) but that's his lane. Rollins was allowed to be a trailblazer, Ambrose was allowed to be crazy (to some extent) but Roman was plucked and made to carry the company and we don't like it. But it's the natural choice. To be honest I think we're kind of bitching a little because WE didn't get Roman Reigns over. He went and got injured and WWE remembered the pops he got at RR'14 and tried to bring him back to revive them. Everything else was 'meh'. Kalisto has all the potential to be as big a lucha star as Rey Mysterio, Usos and New Day, would't mid that for a while, but done right. Barrett is the logical next IC contender if they want to sweep the League as a dominant force and this may be Owens' time to go on a World title chase, emerging if and when a face holds the title. TLC wasn't terrible, but maybe we're just cynical.
I'd love to see Kevin Owens vs Brock Lesnar for WWE World Title. Why not. WWE needs a major heel, they lack it after Rollins got injured. Owens has just dropped IC Title, let's say he loses rematch too and then gets to Rumble and actually wins it. Meanwhile Sheamus retains against Reigns again and after match out comes Brock Lesnar. He destroys everyone in the ring, Heyman then announces Lesnar is coming for the title. Next night on Raw triple threat is announced and it's going to take place two weeks after that night ON RAW. Why not, it'll boost the ratings and when was the last time something like that happened? During match Triple H comes out in his Street clothes and destroys Reigns while Lesnar delivers two F5s and wins. In the meantime Owens destroys everyone in his way, doesn't matter if it's face or heel- he needs a build up. At Fastlane there is a Reigns vs Owens for no.1 contendership, Owens needs to prove himself and Reigns is just desperate. Roman loses and again HHH attacks him after match, setting up HHH-Reigns at WM. In the meantime Lesnar beats Sheamus to retain title and match at WM is set up- Owens vs Lesnar. Now, I know this is dangerous strategy, I know fans may be pissed off and I'm not sure if WWE would go this way but nonetheless... Owens beats Lesnar clean. I know Brock is unstoppable Beast, but WWE NEEDS a monster heel in the main event and Owens is a perfect choice. I doubt WWE will do it, but that's only how I think they should do it. Thoughts on this?
Yeah I have to disagree with you on this one Adam. Do not misunderstand, Swagger v Del Rio was meh, Ryback v Rusev was pointless, and the main event couldn't exceed expectations because no one wanted the fight in the first place. However, I was there at TD Garden and it was the loudest I had ever heard a crowd cheer for Roman when he took out Triple H. Hell, they chanted "Thank you, Roman" at him. I agree he'll only work as a heel in the near future, but I think we're on that path. Especially since we might get an Ambrose v Reigns feud if we do!
+Sift Gaming That was the first thing that came to mind when Raw on Monday started. I was like "this reminds me of 2009 Randy Orton!" IMO that's not a bad thing, I thoroughly enjoyed 2009 Orton vs the McMahons.
+Joelsuf that storyline was intense, and it gave a reason for orton not to be fired immediately because he was going to sue if he got fired, Reigns vs McMahons storyline is just starting so I can't judge it yet but I don't know how they are going to give an excuse for reigns not to be fired immediately. A shit-load of superstars got involved in the Orton vs McMahon story, (which came from the Legacy vs DX/McMahon storyline.) like Cena, Batista, (who played a big part), even HBK at some times. I don't know if the former members of the Shield will reunite and turn on the authority. Or Reigns will just do the entire battle himself.
Reigns ending was great. You wanted THE Reigns to show up? Well he did at TLC. And of course as Big E said, people will watch and people will complain. And thats probably why there will never be any satisfaction from viewers.
If you take a second to think, the "Where's Barrett?" question is easily answered. Before they came out to help Sheamus the League of Nations attacked Ambrose but he kept getting up. All three of them couldn't stay so Rusev and Del Rio went to help Sheamus while Barrett kept Ambrose busy. For someone who does "How WWE should've booked" you couldn't think that?
I literally get pissed at you..you have NO right to be angry at ANYTHING! Because..the winner and STIILLL WhatCulture HEAVYWEIGHT Champiooon of the woooooorl ADAM Blompieeer!! In all seriousness...your 100% right!
Unfortunately, WWE has forgotten that what made The Rock into the mega-super-hyper-Star he is today... ... IS THAT EVERYBODY HATED HIM FIRST! I still remember the "Die, Rocky, Die" chants that echoed the arenas before he became the Rock we know and love today, Reigns needs this, he need to be hated first to be appreciated more. Being a heel builds character, and Reigns has no real character, don't get me wrong, he has improved since the shield break-up, but he isn't there yet.
Best match of the nigth was the Tag Team Title Triple Threat Ladder Match with Xavier Woods at commentary. Woods was absolutely awesome. I especially liked when he corrected Cole who can't really tell which Lucha Dragon is which. The rest could've easily been on Raw. It was alright at best.
I felt TLC was decent. Maybe because I simply didn't care going in to it. The first match was amazing and it had me on the edge of my seat. For the life of me I can't figure out why Rusev/Ryback wasn't on the pre-show and Banks/Lynch wasn't on the main show. I slightly agree with you regarding the main event. They certainly did a lot of spots and carnage, but it felt like that's what they were supposed to do, as opposed to the opening match which melt like it was just happening. I was also confused as to why Barret wasn't there or why Roman's friends to run in too. I didn't mind Reigns beating up Triple H, I just don't know how he's going to keep his job after that. Plus I would rather see Reigns and Triple H at Mania than Reigns in the main event for the title again.
Bo Dallas could've attacked Triple H and got the same massive pop. It's just Vince forcing Reigns over. No one has ever attacked Authority Triple H, so like Reigns do it as a last ditch effort to say: 'See I TOLD YOU that you wanted Reigns. Listen to the cheers, I told you that I-I-I mean you wanted Reigns.'
I actually enjoyed the PPV in parts. The first half aside from the opening was incredibly dull and I couldn't care much. Completely agree there. I also agree that the final 3 matches were good. My biggest disagreement was with the ending. Beating HHH is much different than Vince. Legends get a special place in WWE lore, especially guys like HHH. HHH is still a credible opponent. If HHH came back to win the Royal Rumble, not too many people would question it. They wouldn't like it, but it wouldn't break suspension of disbelief according to WWE lore. Vince was never a super established guy like HHH. Sure he fought in some matches now and then, but he never had an established singles star that made him always credible. I liked the end. It told a story
People always say "Turn Cena Heel" but honestly at this point in his career that makes no sense. With Roman it really does. Hell Adam just said they copy all these other stories (Daniel Bryan, Austin) why not copy the one that makes the most sense? The Rock was booed as a babyface so the WWE listened and said "fine" and turned him heel and he was part of the Corporation. Eventually his natural charisma paid off and people started to warm up to him and turned him Babyface again. Turn Roman Heel and if he is meant to be a Face people will eventually turn him (or maybe he will be an astounding Heel and there will be no need to turn him back). The longer they keep him Face the more people will hate him and eventually...you will ruin him forever.
I honestly this new Era of "Attitude Era" Characters. Roman as the new Stone Cold, Seth Rollins as the new Rock, Bray Wyatt as the new Mankind, Dean as the new... uh, something.
I agree.... to a certain point. Roman Reigns going HAM on Triple H seemed like a good move. This seems like the kind of "beast" they should have been booking Roman as. But maybe a little too late. And your right. it wasn't until I watched this video that I now see what you mean about the fans pretty much writing the storyline. like right now for example. everyone all over the place is already calling it... Triple H vs Reigns at wrestle mania. yup. I do think Roman getting on this "mean' streak is a good thing. but then again I don't hold my breath that it will last. wwe is so inconsistent. long story short. I think they are on to something good here with Romans new look/attitude. so to speak. but can they make it last and do it right?
Here are my issues with Roman Reigns 1. WWE needs to take this pressure off of him and let him develop on the Mic. The Same way Triple H was paired with HBK and The Rock joined the Nation. The fact that Roman hardly cut promos in the shield doesn't help his case. 2. Let him develop his own character. This is hard because WWE really wants him to be a guy that appeals to casual fans and the IWC at the same time. The problem is Roman has had no breathing room to actually develop which leads me to: 3. Please please please please please get rid of the shield music and entrance. Seriously. Why is this guy still living in the past? The shield has been broken up for almost 2 years, and this guy still comes out to the music. That alone has seriously stunted his character to the point where no one really knows which direction he's in. 4. He should not turn heel, right now. The reason why is because when someone turns heel, you want them to create heat. Roman's turn would be expected, and would create a big pop. The WWE doesn't need anymore "Cool Heels" they need legit over characters and legit characters you actually hate. It would be much more advantageous to help Roman get over, but the problem creative is having is the same one they've had with John Cena in recent years: 5. Roman is NOT an underdog. By any stretch of the imagination. Roman vs Dean was the most lop sided main event I've ever seen at Survivor Series. It was so lop sided towards Roman I was sure Dean was turning and winning via "shenanigans" Roman's character should be a "punch first, ask questions later" kind of guy. A guy you could actually believe was a former gun for hire to be the muscle of the shield, and protect CM Punk's title reign. 6. He should go into Wrestlemania season as champion. Having Roman being a confident Champion going into the spring would be a much easier pill to swallow than having him win the Rumble again and having him go over that night to win. Unless WWE creative wants him facing Hunter at Mania which I'm totally fine with, as long as Sheamus isn't anywhere near the Main event. They're trying to sell tickets to this thing lol. Here are the the things I actually like about Roman Reigns 1. His in ring style. He is not a technical wrestler and he shouldn't be. He should be a hard hitting guy with only a few actual wrestling moves that are just very effective. He could "maybe" use a submission hold, but overall I like his limited moveset. He should just be a guy who hits really hard. WWE could use a little more of that to be totally honest with the overly-flashy signature move fest going on. 2. Everyone is selling his punches really well. From Lesnar to the announcers. You can't blame any of them for Roman not getting over. Lesnar was busted open at Mania after the first connected punch. That was a huge sell for Reigns. As a matter of fact, the only reason Roman isn't over is solely to blame on Creative and Roman himself. 3. His character seems just as overwhelmed over all of these events as he is. You can chalk this up to bad acting, but I like the idea of Roman as a wrestler question his own ability while having to convince himself to actually perform. 4. When he does turn heel, it will be glorious. If creative knew how to book Roman, they would have known that he isn't a Daniel Bryan getting screwed by the Authority. He's the Randy Orton getting the rub by the Authority for no reason. WWE should be embracing the IWC's heat on him for being the "company guy" but here's to hoping they don't do something so short sighted and predictable. 5. Potential feuds with John Cena and the Rock. If there's anyone for Cena to put over in a big way, it would be a heel Reigns. Or the Rock coming back for a match with him down the road for "disrespecting the family." 6. He's not wrestling the Big Show every night anymore. And thank God for that.
Couple critiques I have with this video. I don't know if I like Adam trying telling us to remove the TLCs from the mix and then analyze the night because that's kind of the purpose of the pay-per-view. It's WWE's "demolition derby" it's not about great storylines, for the most part, it's about exciting spots. People pay to see that, so that's what WWE gives them. Also this Reigns vs. Authority storyline is a tried and true angle. All storytelling relies on revisiting the tropes that came before it. So I don't really see the problem with Reigns vs. Authority being that they "ripoff" Austin vs. McMahon/corporation, I see it as them not being creative enough about how they rip it off and not really giving the fans what they want. The fans don't want to see "new" storylines. They just want to see storylines done well, with people they care about. How to get the fans to care and how to sharpen up the storylines is on WWE to figure out, but I wouldn't say the problem is a "same old shit" problem on it's own.
Watching this makes me realise how making a video just after TLC without watching the following Raw is premature. WWE knocked it out of the park the past few days.
While the filler matches were boring, I found the main event much better than I had expected. Sheamus is a machine! & despite Roman being... well, Roman... Sheamus carried the match beautifully & I can’t ignore his performance. I was expectingmore from the Owens/Ambrose & Swagger/Del Rio matches but they weren't bad. Kalisto definitely stole the show though, that whole match was fantastic & extremely entertaining!
TLC was fairly decent, id say it was 6.5/10 which is decent for the past 5 years of WWE, there has been probably 2 maybe 3 ppvs in the last 5 years which has been 9/10
+Jim Lawler There have been quite a few bright spots in the last 5 years in terms of ppvs. MITB 2011, Wrestlemania 28, Extreme Rules 2012, Payback 2013, Summerslam 2013, Wrestlemania 30, Wrestlemania 31 and Hell in a Cell 2015 where all 9/10 ppvs IMO.
Reigns needs to either turn heel or be an anti hero. He needs a new attire, new theme song. But having said that I actually liked his beat down on triple h and I thought the match was pretty good.
I was there last night and the crowd was sooo loud when Roman just started kicking ass. It was the most energized part of the night. Though I can certainly see how it feels like a copy and paste of Austin, it worked. People got excited and they cheered Reigns on. (That and an announce table hadn't been broken yet)
I have to disagree with Adam on this one. I came away from TLC feeling excited for Raw tonight (first time in quite a while). I agree that there was a good bit of filler, but even the filler served a purpose from a larger perspective. All three guys in the League of Nations who had a match (sorry Barrett) won and looked good doing it, which they all desperately needed after being booked poorly/aimlessly for months prior. I'm not saying all 3 matches were good, I'm saying that I enjoyed them because the League won them. Rusev/Ryback was meh, ADR/Swagger was... actually decent, definitely the best chairs match WWE has ever had (though it's still one of the worst stipulation matches ever); and I actually enjoyed the TLC match overall. Sheamus as champ is dull thus far, but they did the right move by having the stable look good in order to get people to take them more seriously. Yes, the TLC match was slow and there were moments I said "Oh god, do something! Anything!" but down the pike things picked up. One thing I did like about it is that they didn't center the match around the ladder and getting the belt, they just wanted to beat the hell out of each other. And the crowd really got into the match near the end. The last couple hope spots for Roman got a lot of noise, more than usual and with not too many jeers either. It might have been a similar instance of "We don't like you, but you're a helluva lot better than the other guy." And then the aftermath was exactly what everyone's wanted - Roman to snap and stop acting like everything's okay all the time. Everyone ate it up, too, so I don't agree with the copy-and-paste comparison. Yes the boss-vs.-employee story has been done to death since McMahon/Austin, but The Authority wasn't just gone when Seth got injured, they had to do something. For a guy like Roman who has come close to winning the big one and coming up short because of shenanigans, it makes sense for him to get pissed and wreck shop. It should have come a lot sooner, but we finally have it. A heel turn is, heh "best for business" but I'm not sure how it will actually go over. Roman being pushed over the edge more by Dean winning a belt would work, but Sheamus is still the heel champion. You would have a heel vs. heel title situation, and those can be tricky to pull off. I'd be more confident if Roman had the mic skills to position himself for sympathy, but the "tater tots" bullshit killed whatever promo presence he had left. On the other fronts, like I said, I feel like TLC set up more for down the road as opposed to immediately payoff: - As stated before, the League looks stronger now - The Wyatts mowing over the ECW team makes them look better than they have in a while - We finally know who's supposed to be face and heel between Paige and Charlotte and I'm cool with the idea of Charlotte taking after her dad and being a snob. Getting to this point was crap and killed any chance of a real "revolution" for the women. - Ladder match was awesome and Kalisto stole the show. All three teams came off well and I'm always happy to see the New Day win. Added bonus for Xaiver Wood on commentary and explaining the downed guys on the outside as "recharging their stamina" like in WWE 2K16 as well as giving the other commentators hell for not calling the action correctly. The tag team scene is looking really good right now. - Ambrose taking the IC title from Owens not only sets up for the eventual rematch and a stage for Ambrose to shine and continue making the IC title look good, but also a way to get under Roman's skin. The match is itself was okay, kinda sloppy, and the ending roll-up was shit, so I'm hoping for greater matches later on because both these guys have the talent to put on great matches. The crowd is behind both guys and I want to see what Ambrose is gonna do now that he has the belt. In sum, the TLC PPV was better than expected and felt like there is finally some consistent direction after the panic of Seth's sudden injury. That doesn't mean everything's great, but the right people went over and there's hope yet for an overall stagnant product. But hell, maybe I'm just an optimist.
The best part was Triple H would even fake being unconscious he just needed help getting up... If when the storyline called for him to be killed by Roman he refused to be buried... I love him because of this
Man It really wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. That Triple H beatdown was pretty good. Ambrose/Owens was really good for the time that given. I will agree with you on Ryabck and Rusev. But overall, It really wasn't as bad as everyone making it out to be.
I actually quite enjoyed the PPV for some of the great spots in certain matches and decently alive crowd. It was definitely superior to last months Survivor Series.
The show wasn't bad at all. Ambrose winning the belt was a huge sigh of relief for me to finally see Ambrose with the belt. Triangle Ladder match was super fun, yeah Del Rio/Swagger and Rusev/Ryback were boring and tedious but hell, all PPVs have some matches like these. ECW Originals vs Wyatts was fun for the simple idea of four old guys fighting the most broken current faction in the WWE. Main event was a huge chaos fest and quite frankly, we want our TLC matches to be chaotic and brutal. Thank god Roman didn't win, the whole crowd would have turned on this PPV. 7.5/10 for me, could of been 8 if Del Rio/Swagger and Rusev/Ryback were better.
I didn't feel compelled by the story lines, but I think Sheamus and Reigns deserve credit for making the most out of their match. That was a serious slug-fest, with some more than solid spots, and Roman beating up HHH for so long, for me was very satisfying, and far better than the usual 'I'm going to look sadly into the camera, while JBL berates my continued losing record in title matches' ending.
Honestly I thought the majority of the matches were not bad. The only problem I saw was that there was literally 0 story line involved with any of them, apart for the Charlotte-Paige standoff. The people loved seeing Roman go berserk and Kalisto pulling off all these crazy looking stunts. It was not your classic pay-per-view, but it wasn't a complete disaster either. Now, I know Adam is almost 100% story line driven, so he most likely won't agree with me, but from your average fan who doesn't always keep up with the rises and falls of the companies superstars, it was fun.
Sasha and Becky Lynch put on a good match, unfortunately there was no story. The Tag Title match was great. Rusev and Ryback had an "okay" match with an utterly ridiculous story that did nobody any favors. Same with Del Rio and Swagger. I don't know why they refuse to put the US title on Swagger, his character is BUILT for that title. Wyatts vs ECW was rushed and the Bubba Ray Table spot left me with a case of epididymal hypertension. The IC title match is exactly what it should've been. It had enough time to hit all the spots and tell the story without boring fans. I may be alone here, but I actually enjoyed the Divas match for what it was: A heel turn for Charlotte. I like that she actually used the exposed turnbuckle to secure the win. It's not often we see that stuff coming from the DIVAS! Sheamus vs Reigns, I really didn't pay much attention to. I was listening to it while browsing eBay for retro video games to add to my collection. That tells you how well built that story was. The aftermath was fine, but I'm not going to congratulate WWE for doing what they should've done from the start.
How hard is it to see that Roman Reigns doesn't work as an underdog. He's 6'3", buff as hell, and when he's not talking about Sufferin' Succotash and Tater Tots, could be seen as a brooding war machine you don't want to be fighting. And there's nothing wrong with that. He shouldn't turn heel, he should show intensity. Don't groom him to be Cena, groom him to be Brock.
Seems the reason they took the belt off of Kevin Owens is he is set to have a match with Brock Lesner at Wrestlemania and Brock has no business fighting for the intercontinental title. I like it. Ambrose needed a big win and KO doesn't need a title to be entertaining.
TLC was a pretty good PPV, no bad matches, some great spots, the tag team match was awesome, and Roman beating the living crap out of HHH was awesome too. I think you are underrating TLC, maybe its true that people will criticise no matter what.... in my opinion an A-
TLC was good! But I need to ask if you're going to complain why the hell are you watching the ppv if you're going to complain, if you don't like the product stop watching simple.
because you can't complain after watching the full thing smart one I can say that tlc is 10/10 just by watching the preshow and skipping the rest which is all trash , would that really make the show 10/10? You have to watch the whole thing in order to complain or credit the show
"They keep trying to copy/paste Roman Reigns into someone else's story line. Daniel Bryan? No. Stone Cold? No....the only way they're gonna make this work is with the inevitable, turn Roman Reigns *heel*." So....your solution to copy/pasting him into other people's story lines is......copy/paste him into The Rock's story line? Personally, I disagree with you (and a few other people it seems) that Roman *needs* to go heel to get over. Last night I was hearing people go nuts as he was trashing "The League of Nations," and then Trip. They just need to let him beast out and go savage on his opponents like he did. That's what it sounds like people want to see.
Adam, you're a really cool guy, but this time i'll have to disagree with some of the things you've said. im definitely in agreement with the heel turn, so in that way they'll make him look invincible, but Reigns put on one hell of a show last night. if the crowd were cheering "Thank You Roman", that means he did something right. it may look like shades of Austin vs Vince all over again, and Bryan vs the Authority again, but their motives are different. Austin beat up Vince simply because HE CAN! end of discussion. Bryan feuded with the Authority for being a B+ player, and he had to occupy RAW in order to have his way, and the crowd definitely enjoyed that. and Reigns almost murdered HHH because he's frustrated with the Authority, the same way the WWE Universe is frustrated with the WWE. that's what it felt like to the fans. Reigns is nothing like Austin or Bryan, not even Ambrose. he's far more physically imposing so that makes him a major threat. they're reshaping him back into the badass he used to be in the Shield, because my God he destroyed everyone in sight: Ryback, Cena, Taker, Bryan, Ziggler, Double Spear on the Usos, brutal spear on Mysterio, making him the sole survivor at one point... that's the Roman Reigns we missed and needed. personally i think they should have done more with Roman Reigns wreaking havoc, like spearing a few of the referees, Superman punch to JBL, put Stephanie through the second announce table because, why not? and since Bubba failed to set the table on fire which was a crime, Reigns should have taken the bottle, emptied it out in the ring, and set the ring on fire, and leave through the crowd! yes, the whole PPV was crap but this time take it easy on Reigns, will ya?
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Wade Barrett is in Old Trafford still looking for Rooney appearantly...
Lol
+Heel Race Driver King WHAT?? LVG cant sell Rooney!!! (I know he's not)
+Heel Race Driver King he won't. LVG loves Wayne Rooney his attitude
I thought TLC was fine. It's certainly better than Survivor Series, gotta disagree w/ you on this one Adam.
You're one of those kids that WWE is catering to, so fair enough. They have no real storylines but as long as there are tons of spots we've seen a million times and broken chairs and ladders scattered around the ringside it's "epic" for you.
+Anonymous lol dude, chill out.
I agree, it was okay ...unlike SS
I agree on that. The best performer (IMO) was Kalisto. I hope Roman will turn heel (he won't lol)
well that's because if you watch survivor series than TLC looks great by comparison but for me I didn't watch survivors series this ppv was boring
When Roman came down to the ring somebody had a "Adam for WWE creative" sign. I'm surprised he didn't mention that.
Wait for the Adam vs Adam results video.
that would be me! i had it up a lot just hoping they downed their drinks at one point or another xD
+Angry American i understand my channel is shit, but go to my rocky montage video, thats me (2 years ago) then look at the guy holding the sign. no bullshit here, they said theyd down their drinks if there was a whatculture sign, i commented on that video saying ill be in the aisle roman walks down and i will have a sign.
+Ian Kennedy GO CHECK TWITTER
Yup i noticed too... Whatculture for WWE creative
Old man? Don't call him an old man when you have Tommy Dreamer in a Tables match
That match was full of grandpas, Dudleyz, Rhyno and Dreamer
+Eddie Walls Holy shit, seriously?
+Whisker Fish yep Tommy 44, Triple H 46
+Whisker Fish HHH is 46 yo
That was Tommy dreamers last match in wwe !! Check his twitter accnt !!
Surprising thing is KALISTO was the Best performer of the Night
+JASKARAN That is never a surprise, Kalisto is fantastic.
+Joshua Procter agreed
+Joshua Procter agreed
not really a surprise, but he was outstanding
I meant to say there Was RHYNO,TOMMY,DEAN,KEVIN
But even they were stale whereas Kalisto was Amazing
Why won't you cheer?... umm wasnt the crowd chanting "Thank you Roman" ?? sounded like it to me
oh god yes. i was there and it was like crazy how loud it was. but the craziest thing was "we want cena" chants during the roman match. actually i think it happened a few times but the times it happened, those chants were LOUD
Yeah, i could hear the "we want Cena" chants BY MEN and not just little kids and women for once lol. But also heard the Cena sucks
+Manwiththeplan sXe it was because of the show taking place in boston
That cheer wasn't very loud
+SimpleStinkfish They were in Boston, so it's not that surprising that they wanted Cena
Hmmmm...The ending was great. Roman became a badass (which probably on Raw he'll go back to tatertottering lol). Honestly, I like where it's heading for the time being.
+Joseph Su'a ya I will say that roman freaking out and attacking everyone really worked pretty well. I liked it even though I did immediately realize they pulled it from steve austin
Yep! Tator tots lol! but stone cold will order Roman to turn heel! Or a beer with a little bonus!
how is he now a badass? throwing a temper tantrum and attacking your boss isn't badass. it's criminal and he's being praised for it
+blackbeltbap so Steve Austin is the only one allowed to go crazy?
+William Fitzsimmons triple h isn't Vince mcmahon. Vince mcmahon had no redeeming good about him. triple h constantly breaks kayfabe and does great things on tv. it can be argued that Triple H is a good guy. so roman beating the shit out of him isn't so clearly badass
They made Roman look strong..... in a good way :D
+Ahmed.a_94 true
Triple h vs reigns ?
+esmokez95 And thus the reason they tried to make Roman look strong. Triple H gotta have that WM match, right?
"You gotta make Roman look really strong."
+Whisker Fish and since HHH can't have the rock because he's filming a movie over WM32 he's gotta have Roman
You have been asking for Reigns to show that bad-ass side and just beat the shit out of people - when he does that you complain that it's not organic? So Bryan going against the Authority was a copy of Steve Austin too? Reigns had a great showing last night and you're just nitpicking.
+Deniz Ronayne have to agree, the fact he slightly won the crowd over tells you something, silent destroyer Reigns is a million times more marketable than wisecracking Jock Reigns
+Deniz Ronayne Agreed. Adam was a bit unfair this time.
+Deniz Ronayne No the Austin thing was about Austin beating up Vince. The Bryan thing was about the authority trying to keep the title of him. Two separate stories completely. You are also making the mistake of thinking that just because someone can keep going through everything makes them good. It just means that he no sold peoples finishers so they could do what they wanted in the match. He looked INVINCIBLE, not great like Rollins at Night of Champions, invincible like Super-Cena. They need to find a niche or a gimmick for Reigns that works not just giving him other peoples gimmicks until something sticks.
Roman Reigns beating up the league of nations and Triple H just looked like they were trying to make him look strong (again) at the cost of others.
Bryan won people over by being great and being and underdog stone cold won people over by being a bad ass and by being hilarious Roman Reigns is getting put on our screens because of the way he looks and the family he has had in the business you can't make fans like someone it has to happen naturally I don't think anyone hates Roman just the way he's been shoved down our throats
did anyone see the whatculture sign when roman did his intro?
I did!!!!
youre welcome
+SimpleStinkfish was that u awesome.
+matsuri michiyoku (matsuri2009) yessir
As a spot-fest or even a collection of matches, TLC was pretty decent. But in terms of storylines and furthering feuds, this was terrible. Agree with the points on the spot of the night being in the first match (amazing Salida Del Sol) and the endless drubbing of Triple H to the point that I felt like I was watching a heel batter a babyface, but thought the Divas match was pretty good myself.
ADAM, I will continue to aim to get you on the EWN Podcast for the rest of time.
Kalisto just saved the fucking PPV... Push that guy, he's the only form of entertainment in WWE right now
What about the New Day?
+Blazebro16 they are shit
+RainbowPuke Texture Packs And More! THE whole match was splendid..
He didn't wrestle himself. He's only as good as the four other guys made him look.
+Cala Bama that's right, but all the big moves involved him
THIS IS THE ROMAN REIGNS THAT WE WANT, NOT CENA 2.0.
are your ears alright every one cheered roman when i beat the shit out of hhh
You beat up Triple H? Damn, that's impressive.
+Jordan DAMN
+redfex smith wow jelly
+Jordan agreed name sharer
Even my Girlfriend's Brother called that the League of nations would come out and help Shamus. Why?!? WWE is becoming so boring because seriously......Shamus as Champion is so Dull you could Fall asleep.
+happensq1 I didn't mind when seth Rollins was champ but right now it's boring as fuck..... and I'm not the only one with this POV
+xLegendaryPete i don't have any problem with sheamus being champ i have problem that how roman could beat 1 us champ 1 World heavy weight champ and 2 wrestlers
+XaznwarriorsX how so? Sheamus is dull when comes to mic skills and he not a interesting fighter whatsoever
Who else has been refreshing the page for ages waiting for this to upload?
AYE
REIGNS Removed 70% Hate in a Single Day #THANKYOUROMAN
The extreme vs wyatt match was a lot better on RAW
Nope, nope. Stairs match is definitely worse than a chairs match. Let's not forget WEE LC or whatever it was. Could of been worse.
I forgot all about the stairs match lol... THAT was horrific
+ICantSplel *Could have
WeeLC was an amazing match tbh, the best of the night if I remember correctly.
Stairs match was a fucking abortion.
Reigns did get a massive babyface reaction though after beating the crap out of HHH. Because he was being booked as a legit unstoppable bad ass who gives no fucks. He doesn't have to turn heel for his character to become likable. He just needs to talk less and kick ass more. And when he does talk there should be no corny jokes, no smiling & no child like crap. Just get to the point and beat people up!
the best bit was when rick flair tripped up on the ropes as he entered to congratulate Charlotte
+eddy friday The best bit was HHH selling a chair shot to the back by leaping 3 feet into the air.
Craig Evans yeah bit no one sells out like Owens, he sells to soda like it was hot lava xD
+Craig Evans (Deliverance77) I'm glad you said that! He was flopping like a fish out of water!
+Ryan Burnham BAH GOD HE'S BROKEN IN HALF!!
Stone Cold
1. i read all of that in stone colds voice
2. im gunna see her ass snap!!!
The question now is: How long are Reigns' cheers gonna last ? He was going against The Authority (which no one really likes) so obviously he is gonna be the favourite. But how will it be when that is over ?
Wouldn't be surprised if he gets booed tonight when Steph cuts a 20 minute promo on him tonight and he can't do anything about it
+elmilkmann well let see about it
first time reading these comments have any of people got lives
+Randy Addison I wonder what some of these people would do with their lives if professional wrestling just went away.
I disagree. This was one of the better PPVs of the year.
and thats saying something...
That's not saying much, just a 2/10 rating compared to the rest of the 0.1/10 rating ppvs
Sorry Blampied but you're wrong about Reigns not getting cheered. He got booed beforehand, by the time he was done with HHH he was cheered and getting "Thank you Roman". This is how you book Reigns. It's a shame because I'm a huge fan of you and the channel, but you're clearly just nitpicking here because you can't accept Reigns won over sceptical fans and didn't need to turn heel
Great start, great finish, a lot of meh in the middle. Kalisto MVP
wait for rr 2016 and you see the cheeres he is gonna get, boston has the worst crowd ever so boring
+nation of mastrubation nice name
+AlettaDiPolloBBQ 2.0 thanks, thats what i do;)
"Why aren't you cheering?"
Are you deaf?? You obviously didn't hear the cheers and the "Thank you Roman". Also the matches were good. Stop being such a smark
I think I'm going to unsub from this channel. Everything Adam says is so IWC and smarky, looking for any little thing to complain about, even when it was a pretty good show like TLC was. "Roman Reigns just hit an old man...a lot." So now HHH is an old man? No mention of that any other time he's gotten in fights the last couple years, and what about Tommy Dreamer who had an actual match that night? "Control C, control V. Why aren't you cheering??" Ya, because there hasn't ALWAYS been a wrestler who fights an authority figure for the last 20+ years.
Triple h is older than tommy dreamer lol by only two years but still older search it up I'm not lying and he isn't the one saying "why aren't you cheering" he is saying it from the wwe's stand point of view because it seems to Adam and to a lot of other people that they're just putting roman into other peoples story lines and hoping it will work because they can't make any charisma for the guy or any unique character...he had unique character in the shield and well they buried that so they need to do something and beating up an old man (46) just isn't it
+Michael Rizzo yknow he said half the show was good, right?
+Johnathan Hipwell Roman has got charisma (not as much as some but still more that most) the thing that is killing Roman is him not being able to be himself
Really disagree with almost everything in this review. The end of the PPV was well done and finally made Roman look like an unshackled powerhouse. The tag triple threat was very good, and the IC title match was decent. Overall it punched above it's weight as a lesser PPV.
Honestly I can agree with you except for Reigns. Look, I hated him and how they were booking him as the next Cena/Bryan but at least they made him what he's born to do. Be a badass. He snapped and the crowd LOVED IT, I loved it. They were cheering YES chants and "Thank You Roman" chants. It was kinda a spot-spot PPV (Loved Ambrose winning btw) but that ending was great and the reaction of the crowd and the WWE Universe proves it.
Bad ass Roman Reigns is the best Roman Reigns. (If they could make him heel it'd perfect lol)
*This is How WWE Should book RTWM*:
At TLC, Roman beats Sheamus for the title. How? Easy, CHEATING. Roman turns heel and stands as the champion. Next night, on RAW, Roman turns his back to his "fans", and talks about how he is the next big thing and the WWE Universe doesn't appreciate talent *blablabla* and when he was bout to finish....*SETH ROLLINS MUSIC HITS* (let me dream) It causes a HUGE TITANIC POP, everyone goes wild, and he enters with the title, he enters the ring, and stands head to head with Reigns, both have the title, (kinda like Cena and Punk in 2011) And they fight for the title at the Rumble, it's spear, after pedigree, after curb stomp (let me dream) At the end, Roman spears and pins Seth, Seth's foot is on the ropes, but the ref doesn't see it, and he wins. Later on that night, Dean Ambrose wins the Rumble 2016. At the next RAW, Seth and Roman are discussing over who is the champion. "You didn't beat me *blablabla* " "Yes I did *blablabla* " and Dean's music hits and the three are standing in the ring, no words, it's on. At FastLane It's Team Reigns (Reings and Owens) vs. Team Dean (Dean and Ryback) vs. Team Seth (Seth and LESNAR) Lesnar betrayed Seth and Team Reigns pick up the victory. At WM is Reigns vs. Seth vs. Dean for the title, a No Holds Barred. An amazing match, Seth is outside the ring, and Roman is about to spear Dean, when he was on his way (running) Seth outta nowhere does a Curb Stomp from the third rope, Dean inmediatly does A Dirty Deeds on Seth and wins. Dean then loses the title against Seth at Summerslam. *It's unrealistic, but let's dream for it at WM 33*
Your dumb as fuck u know that
sean mcmahon mmmm...why exactly?
Just one stupid thing.Scratch the part where Seth and Roman have 2 identical titles.That's pretty retarded since there's no need for a 2nd WWEWHC title.Also this is not how they should book cause they CAN'T book it like that
+WWELoquendoY2J >Cheating in a no DQ match and trying to cause a face turn by beating up the biggest heel in the company (sad to say)
I love when ideas fall apart in the first sentence.
+WWELoquendoY2J and the second stupid thing that SETH ROLLINS IS INJURED FOR SOME MONTHS AND WON'T RETURN TILL SUMMER OF 2016 (maybe)
"The principal of Chekov's gun" just cemented me believing the WWE would be better off with you on creative
#WeWantPacitti
Team ECW vs Wyatt Family was for me a real disappointment.
On the paper and personnal opinion, it was the best match on the card but in the "Reality Era" it was a mess, not even 15 min of match for a 4 vs 4 Elimination tables match ?! Tease a table to be set in fire and... nope !
Don't tell me after a chaos like this, Vince was like this : "I don't understand why my rating is still low" damn ....
#PushKalisto !!!!
"Turn Reigns heel." Sounds a lot like a certain other Superman I know. Really, if creative is dead-set on making Reigns the next Cena, the guy who's supposed to be the face of the company and carry everything on his shoulders, then they're just going to repeat the process and never turn him heel. Let's go Roman/Roman sucks. Then again, he's only been on TV for 3 years so there's plenty of time for change, but of course this is WWE we're talking about here and they seem to vehemently dislike change.
I miss Seth Rollins...
I am counting down the days let alone months
I disagree, Austin beat up McMahon because he wanted to, he didn't want to be told what to do. And he did it for the fans. Reigns is doing it because he's pissed.
This time it seemed like the people were getting behind Roman, after the spear on Trips there was a very loud "thank you Roman" chant ... unless I had too much to drink.
nope. i was there live and the thank you roman chants were fucking loud
+Timbo Slice I heard boos in there too. It wasn't exactly unanimous...
+StarryStarryNocturne i was there live. it might not have been unanimous, but the cheers were significantly louder than any boos. plus he raw closed with him being cheered by the majority or phillie... the same town/arena that booed him the fuck out of the royal rumble
SimpleStinkfish The thank you chant was louder, but the boos were still audibly underneath, then when the chat died out, the boos were louder than the smattering of claps that could be heard underneath. And I don't know if the WWE screened the audience's gender ratio, but I could swear that 95% of his pop on Raw was comprised of squeaky, high-pitched voices. It just sounded like a lot of women and children showed up to this show. Again, Roman made progress at TLC, but you can't see he's over yet. There's still LOTS of work for creative and for Roman to do to get him legitimately over.
Not to mention, the most uniform applause Roman got Monday Night was when he called the McMahon family a disgrace, that's something everyone would agree on, considering Vince is behind all the crap of the past several weeks and beyond. Miz would've gotten that kind of pop saying the same thing lol.
I actually like that Reigns has morphed from a Cena/Hogan superhero into an Austin/Nash antihero, I think it works well like this and I can really get behind him now, more than if he was a heel (which he did great on NXT).
Am I the only one NOT shocked Ambrose won?
Yes
+Vanoss Daithi Delirious Wildcat no you arent
yes I'm actually happy for him but I wonder what they going to do with ko:(
i agree until i seen a lot of heels going over, was wondering if any faces was going over and thought well maybe ambrose.
i was shocked (probably just because the entire arena erupted around me) but like i love ambrose but i didnt want him to win that title. now owens is either left out to dry (or shove him into the world title picture) and ambrose is now cursed with the midcard title. i personally think if he is around a title it should be the world title, and he should always be the hunter. hes better when hes the hunted. now he has the ic title, he is the champion, but now hes the hunted. it doesnt feel right to me
I think you were a tad bit harsh on TLC 2015 Adam. I thought it was wonderful! Even the chairs match wasn't all that bad. The chair "sword fight" in the beginning was pretty sick. And the corner stomp onto the chairs was cool too.
WORST PAY PER VIEW EVER
There have been Far worse than this!
+Budman I doubt it
Yeah there have been far worse.
+Jamie Sutherland You've never heard of December to Dismember 2006 then
Dude this was by far better than Survivor Series
i agree with you Adam, when you said WWE is not sure how to book Roman Reigns either a John Cena, Stone Cold or a Daniel Bryan. LET ROMAN BE HIMSELF and it doesn't matter, he is already over to a certain degree.
100% agree there Adam. My biggest problem honestly wasn't the copy and paste Roman=Austin job. Instead, I'm genuinely confused that a lot of fans think its new writing for Roman, and that its a good direction. I think people forget that this whole Authority v. Roman thing has been going on and off for months. I mean christ, we saw Roman spear HHH less than a month ago, at the last PPV! That's not new, its the same stuff they've been doing for months now. If it leads somewhere new, then great. But as of right now, its the same old WWE writing.
Honestly I thought Roman Reigns running up the ladder and doing that little punch of his was pretty sick, but aside from that the only majorly interesting thing that happened in the PPV was that amazing tag match + Xavier on commentary. Holy shit I haven't enjoy a tag match in a long time, so that was special.
Overall the PPV wasn't bad, but the main event just didn't feel main event quality. The fact that people were asking for CENA during the match and only chanted positively for Reigns in the events that came AFTER the match proves that. Meanwhile the arena exploded with "HOLY SHIT" after the Salida del Sol off the ladder. Good times.
Hmm, I agree with most bar Roman's semi-ambush of HHH. Yes, turning him heel makes everyone happy, so they can boo him (or cheer him if you're a 12 year old boy or every woman on earth) but honestly, the last segment was actually pretty good. We do complain about how there's no superstar like D-Bry or Austin, then bitch about the fact that someone even dares to try and copy or emulate him. Roman has a lane that everyone but WWE can see; put him on the show and let him destroy everything. Not to talk and do schtick for 3 minutes (or an hour depending on your tolerance of food based PG jokes) but that's his lane. Rollins was allowed to be a trailblazer, Ambrose was allowed to be crazy (to some extent) but Roman was plucked and made to carry the company and we don't like it. But it's the natural choice. To be honest I think we're kind of bitching a little because WE didn't get Roman Reigns over. He went and got injured and WWE remembered the pops he got at RR'14 and tried to bring him back to revive them. Everything else was 'meh'. Kalisto has all the potential to be as big a lucha star as Rey Mysterio, Usos and New Day, would't mid that for a while, but done right. Barrett is the logical next IC contender if they want to sweep the League as a dominant force and this may be Owens' time to go on a World title chase, emerging if and when a face holds the title.
TLC wasn't terrible, but maybe we're just cynical.
Digivolved?!
"Now there's a term I've not heard in a long, long time. A long time."
I love how Adam always furrows his brow when he says "WHAT JUST HAPPENED."
I'd love to see Kevin Owens vs Brock Lesnar for WWE World Title. Why not. WWE needs a major heel, they lack it after Rollins got injured. Owens has just dropped IC Title, let's say he loses rematch too and then gets to Rumble and actually wins it.
Meanwhile Sheamus retains against Reigns again and after match out comes Brock Lesnar. He destroys everyone in the ring, Heyman then announces Lesnar is coming for the title.
Next night on Raw triple threat is announced and it's going to take place two weeks after that night ON RAW. Why not, it'll boost the ratings and when was the last time something like that happened?
During match Triple H comes out in his Street clothes and destroys Reigns while Lesnar delivers two F5s and wins.
In the meantime Owens destroys everyone in his way, doesn't matter if it's face or heel- he needs a build up. At Fastlane there is a Reigns vs Owens for no.1 contendership, Owens needs to prove himself and Reigns is just desperate. Roman loses and again HHH attacks him after match, setting up HHH-Reigns at WM.
In the meantime Lesnar beats Sheamus to retain title and match at WM is set up- Owens vs Lesnar.
Now, I know this is dangerous strategy, I know fans may be pissed off and I'm not sure if WWE would go this way but nonetheless...
Owens beats Lesnar clean. I know Brock is unstoppable Beast, but WWE NEEDS a monster heel in the main event and Owens is a perfect choice. I doubt WWE will do it, but that's only how I think they should do it. Thoughts on this?
Yeah I have to disagree with you on this one Adam. Do not misunderstand, Swagger v Del Rio was meh, Ryback v Rusev was pointless, and the main event couldn't exceed expectations because no one wanted the fight in the first place. However, I was there at TD Garden and it was the loudest I had ever heard a crowd cheer for Roman when he took out Triple H. Hell, they chanted "Thank you, Roman" at him. I agree he'll only work as a heel in the near future, but I think we're on that path. Especially since we might get an Ambrose v Reigns feud if we do!
I have a feeling this is gonna be the new 2009 Orton vs McMahons Storyline.
+Sift Gaming That was the first thing that came to mind when Raw on Monday started. I was like "this reminds me of 2009 Randy Orton!" IMO that's not a bad thing, I thoroughly enjoyed 2009 Orton vs the McMahons.
+Joelsuf that storyline was intense, and it gave a reason for orton not to be fired immediately because he was going to sue if he got fired, Reigns vs McMahons storyline is just starting so I can't judge it yet but I don't know how they are going to give an excuse for reigns not to be fired immediately. A shit-load of superstars got involved in the Orton vs McMahon story, (which came from the Legacy vs DX/McMahon storyline.) like Cena, Batista, (who played a big part), even HBK at some times. I don't know if the former members of the Shield will reunite and turn on the authority. Or Reigns will just do the entire battle himself.
Reigns ending was great. You wanted THE Reigns to show up? Well he did at TLC. And of course as Big E said, people will watch and people will complain. And thats probably why there will never be any satisfaction from viewers.
I 100% agree with you.... This PPV was lousy...
If you take a second to think, the "Where's Barrett?" question is easily answered. Before they came out to help Sheamus the League of Nations attacked Ambrose but he kept getting up. All three of them couldn't stay so Rusev and Del Rio went to help Sheamus while Barrett kept Ambrose busy.
For someone who does "How WWE should've booked" you couldn't think that?
that awkward moment when the Tables botched more than in WWE 2k16
Dude, I liked Roman Reigns going nuts of Sheamus and HHH. That was the Roman Reigns I want to see more of.
WWE TLC 2015 " Hey at least it's not Survivor Series"
I literally get pissed at you..you have NO right to be angry at ANYTHING! Because..the winner and STIILLL WhatCulture HEAVYWEIGHT Champiooon of the woooooorl ADAM Blompieeer!!
In all seriousness...your 100% right!
Unfortunately, WWE has forgotten that what made The Rock into the mega-super-hyper-Star he is today...
... IS THAT EVERYBODY HATED HIM FIRST!
I still remember the "Die, Rocky, Die" chants that echoed the arenas before he became the Rock we know and love today,
Reigns needs this, he need to be hated first to be appreciated more. Being a heel builds character, and Reigns has no real character, don't get me wrong, he has improved since the shield break-up, but he isn't there yet.
Kalisto deserves more for that Amazing performance
Best match of the nigth was the Tag Team Title Triple Threat Ladder Match with Xavier Woods at commentary. Woods was absolutely awesome. I especially liked when he corrected Cole who can't really tell which Lucha Dragon is which.
The rest could've easily been on Raw. It was alright at best.
I felt TLC was decent. Maybe because I simply didn't care going in to it. The first match was amazing and it had me on the edge of my seat. For the life of me I can't figure out why Rusev/Ryback wasn't on the pre-show and Banks/Lynch wasn't on the main show. I slightly agree with you regarding the main event. They certainly did a lot of spots and carnage, but it felt like that's what they were supposed to do, as opposed to the opening match which melt like it was just happening. I was also confused as to why Barret wasn't there or why Roman's friends to run in too. I didn't mind Reigns beating up Triple H, I just don't know how he's going to keep his job after that. Plus I would rather see Reigns and Triple H at Mania than Reigns in the main event for the title again.
Spot on Adam, wwe need to see the light! WHAT CULTURE FOREVER!!!
Bo Dallas could've attacked Triple H and got the same massive pop. It's just Vince forcing Reigns over. No one has ever attacked Authority Triple H, so like Reigns do it as a last ditch effort to say: 'See I TOLD YOU that you wanted Reigns. Listen to the cheers, I told you that I-I-I mean you wanted Reigns.'
"Same old story again tonight." - Michael Cole. I think that sums things up nicely.
I actually enjoyed the PPV in parts. The first half aside from the opening was incredibly dull and I couldn't care much. Completely agree there. I also agree that the final 3 matches were good. My biggest disagreement was with the ending. Beating HHH is much different than Vince. Legends get a special place in WWE lore, especially guys like HHH. HHH is still a credible opponent. If HHH came back to win the Royal Rumble, not too many people would question it. They wouldn't like it, but it wouldn't break suspension of disbelief according to WWE lore. Vince was never a super established guy like HHH. Sure he fought in some matches now and then, but he never had an established singles star that made him always credible. I liked the end. It told a story
People always say "Turn Cena Heel" but honestly at this point in his career that makes no sense.
With Roman it really does. Hell Adam just said they copy all these other stories (Daniel Bryan, Austin) why not copy the one that makes the most sense? The Rock was booed as a babyface so the WWE listened and said "fine" and turned him heel and he was part of the Corporation. Eventually his natural charisma paid off and people started to warm up to him and turned him Babyface again.
Turn Roman Heel and if he is meant to be a Face people will eventually turn him (or maybe he will be an astounding Heel and there will be no need to turn him back). The longer they keep him Face the more people will hate him and eventually...you will ruin him forever.
I honestly this new Era of "Attitude Era" Characters. Roman as the new Stone Cold, Seth Rollins as the new Rock, Bray Wyatt as the new Mankind, Dean as the new... uh, something.
I agree.... to a certain point. Roman Reigns going HAM on Triple H seemed like a good move. This seems like the kind of "beast" they should have been booking Roman as. But maybe a little too late. And your right. it wasn't until I watched this video that I now see what you mean about the fans pretty much writing the storyline. like right now for example. everyone all over the place is already calling it... Triple H vs Reigns at wrestle mania. yup. I do think Roman getting on this "mean' streak is a good thing. but then again I don't hold my breath that it will last. wwe is so inconsistent. long story short. I think they are on to something good here with Romans new look/attitude. so to speak. but can they make it last and do it right?
Here are my issues with Roman Reigns
1. WWE needs to take this pressure off of him and let him develop on the Mic. The Same way Triple H was paired with HBK and The Rock joined the Nation. The fact that Roman hardly cut promos in the shield doesn't help his case.
2. Let him develop his own character. This is hard because WWE really wants him to be a guy that appeals to casual fans and the IWC at the same time. The problem is Roman has had no breathing room to actually develop which leads me to:
3. Please please please please please get rid of the shield music and entrance. Seriously. Why is this guy still living in the past? The shield has been broken up for almost 2 years, and this guy still comes out to the music. That alone has seriously stunted his character to the point where no one really knows which direction he's in.
4. He should not turn heel, right now. The reason why is because when someone turns heel, you want them to create heat. Roman's turn would be expected, and would create a big pop. The WWE doesn't need anymore "Cool Heels" they need legit over characters and legit characters you actually hate. It would be much more advantageous to help Roman get over, but the problem creative is having is the same one they've had with John Cena in recent years:
5. Roman is NOT an underdog. By any stretch of the imagination. Roman vs Dean was the most lop sided main event I've ever seen at Survivor Series. It was so lop sided towards Roman I was sure Dean was turning and winning via "shenanigans" Roman's character should be a "punch first, ask questions later" kind of guy. A guy you could actually believe was a former gun for hire to be the muscle of the shield, and protect CM Punk's title reign.
6. He should go into Wrestlemania season as champion. Having Roman being a confident Champion going into the spring would be a much easier pill to swallow than having him win the Rumble again and having him go over that night to win. Unless WWE creative wants him facing Hunter at Mania which I'm totally fine with, as long as Sheamus isn't anywhere near the Main event. They're trying to sell tickets to this thing lol.
Here are the the things I actually like about Roman Reigns
1. His in ring style. He is not a technical wrestler and he shouldn't be. He should be a hard hitting guy with only a few actual wrestling moves that are just very effective. He could "maybe" use a submission hold, but overall I like his limited moveset. He should just be a guy who hits really hard. WWE could use a little more of that to be totally honest with the overly-flashy signature move fest going on.
2. Everyone is selling his punches really well. From Lesnar to the announcers. You can't blame any of them for Roman not getting over. Lesnar was busted open at Mania after the first connected punch. That was a huge sell for Reigns. As a matter of fact, the only reason Roman isn't over is solely to blame on Creative and Roman himself.
3. His character seems just as overwhelmed over all of these events as he is. You can chalk this up to bad acting, but I like the idea of Roman as a wrestler question his own ability while having to convince himself to actually perform.
4. When he does turn heel, it will be glorious. If creative knew how to book Roman, they would have known that he isn't a Daniel Bryan getting screwed by the Authority. He's the Randy Orton getting the rub by the Authority for no reason. WWE should be embracing the IWC's heat on him for being the "company guy" but here's to hoping they don't do something so short sighted and predictable.
5. Potential feuds with John Cena and the Rock. If there's anyone for Cena to put over in a big way, it would be a heel Reigns. Or the Rock coming back for a match with him down the road for "disrespecting the family."
6. He's not wrestling the Big Show every night anymore. And thank God for that.
Couple critiques I have with this video. I don't know if I like Adam trying telling us to remove the TLCs from the mix and then analyze the night because that's kind of the purpose of the pay-per-view. It's WWE's "demolition derby" it's not about great storylines, for the most part, it's about exciting spots. People pay to see that, so that's what WWE gives them. Also this Reigns vs. Authority storyline is a tried and true angle. All storytelling relies on revisiting the tropes that came before it. So I don't really see the problem with Reigns vs. Authority being that they "ripoff" Austin vs. McMahon/corporation, I see it as them not being creative enough about how they rip it off and not really giving the fans what they want. The fans don't want to see "new" storylines. They just want to see storylines done well, with people they care about. How to get the fans to care and how to sharpen up the storylines is on WWE to figure out, but I wouldn't say the problem is a "same old shit" problem on it's own.
Watching this makes me realise how making a video just after TLC without watching the following Raw is premature. WWE knocked it out of the park the past few days.
I was there live and there was a guy behind us and was yelling "DIET OWENS DIET"XD
While the filler matches were boring, I found the main event much better than I had expected. Sheamus is a machine! & despite Roman being... well, Roman... Sheamus carried the match beautifully & I can’t ignore his performance. I was expectingmore from the Owens/Ambrose & Swagger/Del Rio matches but they weren't bad. Kalisto definitely stole the show though, that whole match was fantastic & extremely entertaining!
TLC was fairly decent, id say it was 6.5/10 which is decent for the past 5 years of WWE, there has been probably 2 maybe 3 ppvs in the last 5 years which has been 9/10
Decent is subjective
Decent is subjective
+Jim Lawler There have been quite a few bright spots in the last 5 years in terms of ppvs. MITB 2011, Wrestlemania 28, Extreme Rules 2012, Payback 2013, Summerslam 2013, Wrestlemania 30, Wrestlemania 31 and Hell in a Cell 2015 where all 9/10 ppvs IMO.
I remember MITB 2011, WrestleMania 28, and SummerSlam 2013. Maybe WrestleMania 31
Reigns needs to either turn heel or be an anti hero. He needs a new attire, new theme song. But having said that I actually liked his beat down on triple h and I thought the match was pretty good.
I was there last night and the crowd was sooo loud when Roman just started kicking ass. It was the most energized part of the night. Though I can certainly see how it feels like a copy and paste of Austin, it worked. People got excited and they cheered Reigns on. (That and an announce table hadn't been broken yet)
I have to disagree with Adam on this one. I came away from TLC feeling excited for Raw tonight (first time in quite a while). I agree that there was a good bit of filler, but even the filler served a purpose from a larger perspective. All three guys in the League of Nations who had a match (sorry Barrett) won and looked good doing it, which they all desperately needed after being booked poorly/aimlessly for months prior. I'm not saying all 3 matches were good, I'm saying that I enjoyed them because the League won them. Rusev/Ryback was meh, ADR/Swagger was... actually decent, definitely the best chairs match WWE has ever had (though it's still one of the worst stipulation matches ever); and I actually enjoyed the TLC match overall. Sheamus as champ is dull thus far, but they did the right move by having the stable look good in order to get people to take them more seriously. Yes, the TLC match was slow and there were moments I said "Oh god, do something! Anything!" but down the pike things picked up. One thing I did like about it is that they didn't center the match around the ladder and getting the belt, they just wanted to beat the hell out of each other. And the crowd really got into the match near the end. The last couple hope spots for Roman got a lot of noise, more than usual and with not too many jeers either. It might have been a similar instance of "We don't like you, but you're a helluva lot better than the other guy." And then the aftermath was exactly what everyone's wanted - Roman to snap and stop acting like everything's okay all the time. Everyone ate it up, too, so I don't agree with the copy-and-paste comparison. Yes the boss-vs.-employee story has been done to death since McMahon/Austin, but The Authority wasn't just gone when Seth got injured, they had to do something. For a guy like Roman who has come close to winning the big one and coming up short because of shenanigans, it makes sense for him to get pissed and wreck shop. It should have come a lot sooner, but we finally have it. A heel turn is, heh "best for business" but I'm not sure how it will actually go over. Roman being pushed over the edge more by Dean winning a belt would work, but Sheamus is still the heel champion. You would have a heel vs. heel title situation, and those can be tricky to pull off. I'd be more confident if Roman had the mic skills to position himself for sympathy, but the "tater tots" bullshit killed whatever promo presence he had left.
On the other fronts, like I said, I feel like TLC set up more for down the road as opposed to immediately payoff:
- As stated before, the League looks stronger now
- The Wyatts mowing over the ECW team makes them look better than they have in a while
- We finally know who's supposed to be face and heel between Paige and Charlotte and I'm cool with the idea of Charlotte taking after her dad and being a snob. Getting to this point was crap and killed any chance of a real "revolution" for the women.
- Ladder match was awesome and Kalisto stole the show. All three teams came off well and I'm always happy to see the New Day win. Added bonus for Xaiver Wood on commentary and explaining the downed guys on the outside as "recharging their stamina" like in WWE 2K16 as well as giving the other commentators hell for not calling the action correctly. The tag team scene is looking really good right now.
- Ambrose taking the IC title from Owens not only sets up for the eventual rematch and a stage for Ambrose to shine and continue making the IC title look good, but also a way to get under Roman's skin. The match is itself was okay, kinda sloppy, and the ending roll-up was shit, so I'm hoping for greater matches later on because both these guys have the talent to put on great matches. The crowd is behind both guys and I want to see what Ambrose is gonna do now that he has the belt.
In sum, the TLC PPV was better than expected and felt like there is finally some consistent direction after the panic of Seth's sudden injury. That doesn't mean everything's great, but the right people went over and there's hope yet for an overall stagnant product. But hell, maybe I'm just an optimist.
The best part was Triple H would even fake being unconscious he just needed help getting up... If when the storyline called for him to be killed by Roman he refused to be buried... I love him because of this
Man It really wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. That Triple H beatdown was pretty good. Ambrose/Owens was really good for the time that given. I will agree with you on Ryabck and Rusev. But overall, It really wasn't as bad as everyone making it out to be.
...people were cheering for Reigns demolishing Triple H. Like, literally everyone...
+AvoidTheBoyd I Didn't I saw this comming a mile away, Triple H vs Roman Regins WM where Roman wins, next.....
They weren't cheering
If WWE wanted to have names on tables, don't let wrestlers break it without legitimately putting them through it!
I actually quite enjoyed the PPV for some of the great spots in certain matches and decently alive crowd. It was definitely superior to last months Survivor Series.
The show wasn't bad at all. Ambrose winning the belt was a huge sigh of relief for me to finally see Ambrose with the belt. Triangle Ladder match was super fun, yeah Del Rio/Swagger and Rusev/Ryback were boring and tedious but hell, all PPVs have some matches like these. ECW Originals vs Wyatts was fun for the simple idea of four old guys fighting the most broken current faction in the WWE. Main event was a huge chaos fest and quite frankly, we want our TLC matches to be chaotic and brutal. Thank god Roman didn't win, the whole crowd would have turned on this PPV. 7.5/10 for me, could of been 8 if Del Rio/Swagger and Rusev/Ryback were better.
Dean winning the title and the Tag Title Ladder Match kept me interested
Adam, this PPV was incredible. I don't know what you're talking about.
Just turn Roman heel already. His rage against HHH and the others showed that he can be a great heel.
We are in 2015, theres not alot WWE creative can do, without it NOT EVER having been done before.. Come on Whatculture, its common sense
I didn't feel compelled by the story lines, but I think Sheamus and Reigns deserve credit for making the most out of their match. That was a serious slug-fest, with some more than solid spots, and Roman beating up HHH for so long, for me was very satisfying, and far better than the usual 'I'm going to look sadly into the camera, while JBL berates my continued losing record in title matches' ending.
Honestly I thought the majority of the matches were not bad. The only problem I saw was that there was literally 0 story line involved with any of them, apart for the Charlotte-Paige standoff. The people loved seeing Roman go berserk and Kalisto pulling off all these crazy looking stunts. It was not your classic pay-per-view, but it wasn't a complete disaster either. Now, I know Adam is almost 100% story line driven, so he most likely won't agree with me, but from your average fan who doesn't always keep up with the rises and falls of the companies superstars, it was fun.
I particularly enjoyed HHH doing his best trout impression when Roman hit him with the chair shots.
Sasha and Becky Lynch put on a good match, unfortunately there was no story. The Tag Title match was great. Rusev and Ryback had an "okay" match with an utterly ridiculous story that did nobody any favors. Same with Del Rio and Swagger. I don't know why they refuse to put the US title on Swagger, his character is BUILT for that title. Wyatts vs ECW was rushed and the Bubba Ray Table spot left me with a case of epididymal hypertension. The IC title match is exactly what it should've been. It had enough time to hit all the spots and tell the story without boring fans. I may be alone here, but I actually enjoyed the Divas match for what it was: A heel turn for Charlotte. I like that she actually used the exposed turnbuckle to secure the win. It's not often we see that stuff coming from the DIVAS! Sheamus vs Reigns, I really didn't pay much attention to. I was listening to it while browsing eBay for retro video games to add to my collection. That tells you how well built that story was. The aftermath was fine, but I'm not going to congratulate WWE for doing what they should've done from the start.
The table not being set on fire was a slap to the face. It was like WWE was saying "HAHA, na mate, your childhood is over. This is PG".
Personally I think TLC was a massive upgrade from survivor series.
How hard is it to see that Roman Reigns doesn't work as an underdog. He's 6'3", buff as hell, and when he's not talking about Sufferin' Succotash and Tater Tots, could be seen as a brooding war machine you don't want to be fighting. And there's nothing wrong with that. He shouldn't turn heel, he should show intensity. Don't groom him to be Cena, groom him to be Brock.
Seems the reason they took the belt off of Kevin Owens is he is set to have a match with Brock Lesner at Wrestlemania and Brock has no business fighting for the intercontinental title. I like it. Ambrose needed a big win and KO doesn't need a title to be entertaining.
TLC was a pretty good PPV, no bad matches, some great spots, the tag team match was awesome, and Roman beating the living crap out of HHH was awesome too. I think you are underrating TLC, maybe its true that people will criticise no matter what.... in my opinion an A-
TLC was good! But I need to ask if you're going to complain why the hell are you watching the ppv if you're going to complain, if you don't like the product stop watching simple.
Because it's his job to do so
well he has to watch it in order to see if he likes it or not...
because you can't complain after watching the full thing smart one
I can say that tlc is 10/10 just by watching the preshow and skipping the rest which is all trash , would that really make the show 10/10?
You have to watch the whole thing in order to complain or credit the show
+Wwe guy FTW Because it's clear Adam likes wwe, but an intelligent fan should be able to like something and also critique its flaws.
+Wwe guy FTW ummm you dumb?
"They keep trying to copy/paste Roman Reigns into someone else's story line. Daniel Bryan? No. Stone Cold? No....the only way they're gonna make this work is with the inevitable, turn Roman Reigns *heel*."
So....your solution to copy/pasting him into other people's story lines is......copy/paste him into The Rock's story line?
Personally, I disagree with you (and a few other people it seems) that Roman *needs* to go heel to get over. Last night I was hearing people go nuts as he was trashing "The League of Nations," and then Trip. They just need to let him beast out and go savage on his opponents like he did. That's what it sounds like people want to see.
Adam, you're a really cool guy, but this time i'll have to disagree with some of the things you've said. im definitely in agreement with the heel turn, so in that way they'll make him look invincible, but Reigns put on one hell of a show last night. if the crowd were cheering "Thank You Roman", that means he did something right. it may look like shades of Austin vs Vince all over again, and Bryan vs the Authority again, but their motives are different. Austin beat up Vince simply because HE CAN! end of discussion. Bryan feuded with the Authority for being a B+ player, and he had to occupy RAW in order to have his way, and the crowd definitely enjoyed that. and Reigns almost murdered HHH because he's frustrated with the Authority, the same way the WWE Universe is frustrated with the WWE. that's what it felt like to the fans. Reigns is nothing like Austin or Bryan, not even Ambrose. he's far more physically imposing so that makes him a major threat. they're reshaping him back into the badass he used to be in the Shield, because my God he destroyed everyone in sight: Ryback, Cena, Taker, Bryan, Ziggler, Double Spear on the Usos, brutal spear on Mysterio, making him the sole survivor at one point... that's the Roman Reigns we missed and needed. personally i think they should have done more with Roman Reigns wreaking havoc, like spearing a few of the referees, Superman punch to JBL, put Stephanie through the second announce table because, why not? and since Bubba failed to set the table on fire which was a crime, Reigns should have taken the bottle, emptied it out in the ring, and set the ring on fire, and leave through the crowd! yes, the whole PPV was crap but this time take it easy on Reigns, will ya?
The fact that this video is still accurately depicting WWE to this day is sad.