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► Chapters:
00:00 - I don't want to install Windows anymore
00:13 - What happened ...
01:22 - Installing Windows the right way
01:59 - Why it is annoying ...
03:38 - The Linux Desktop in 2023
05:08 - How Linux has evolved in the past year ...
05:46 - Windows vs Linux
08:00 - Conclusion
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windows vs linux, linux vs windows, linux vs windows 11, why linux is better, don't use windows, windows alternatives, windows vs linux gaming, windows vs linux gaming 2023, linux destiny 2, linux customization, linux daily driver, michael horn
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#linux #opensource #rant - เกม
As a Linux user and contributor since ~1996 all I can say is; Welcome 🙂
I been using linux since they started releasing, remember getting thos discs in the magazines? and all the constant crashes etc. If you didn't know the terminal you were kinda screwed.
@@memorysticky7581 I started Linux with magazines! openSUSE actually still uses them, or at least used them but I got Leap 15.4 on CD
Same, and im not a super user either, just a regular dummy and and its been fantastic since the very beginning.
@@memorysticky7581 Yeah, I remember. The first kernel I booted on a personal system was (I believe) version 0.98 or thereabout.
i am planning to use linux since the ai integration in windows.
As a junior high school student who use Linux for entirely 2 years, I must say Linux is capable of doing anything I want. Also, using Linux makes me smarter: It teaches me how to use the internet; it teaches me how to solve a problem. Linux even changes my mindset when it comes to thinking. I am very appreciated.
Good for you. Those skills that you have learned and developed, will help you greatly in years ahead -- as you stay in school. And, especially, during the rest of your life.
Honestly, I wished I learned (at your age) what you have learned, but years way back when, that type of "mindset" just was only available to the most successful people on the planet.
I also got into linux in my middle school years. I had a Pentium 133 notebook which had a 1GB hard drive. I saved up some pocket money and got a 10GB drive one day, only to find out Win98 only could use 8GB of that due to some limitations of the BIOS on this machine. Linux however had no such issues. So at first I had a 8GB Win98 SE install and a 2GB Debian Linux 2.2, then after some time 4 GB Windows and 6GB linux, then finally 9 GB linux, 1 GB Windows. Later on my first desktop an AMD Duron 900 I only installed linux. I skipped XP entirely and only started to use Windows again at the tail years of 7.
@@PoeLemic Thanks for such kind words. This is the best Christmas gift I've ever get this year. Merry Christmas and I wish you and your family have better life in the future! 🥹
I wish if i could switch back to Linux but Adobe product are holding me back, I use photoshop, illustrator on a daily basis so yeah...
Before you jump in i tried many alternatives and no it did not workout i have to learn a whole new software ...
@@GeekMed1 You can run them under WINE.
My switch to Linux was somewhat accidental. I kept a Windows 8 laptop for gaming, but then I put a GPU in my Linux machine, which caused a lot of stability issues, which I resolved by replacing the motherboard. Back then I could only play Linux compatible games on Steam such as Portal and Half-Life series. I accepted the limitations, and it wasn't too long I started seeing support for more and more games.
My issue with Windows is the same as everyone else's. Demand for more RAM, bad performance, ads, proprietary, etc. The biggest reason I won't go back is because my Linux Mint OS performs the same every day and doesn't degrade even years later. Nothing breaks. Files don't go missing. I can come home to a reliable PC every time and not worry about it.
And won't ever nag you to upgrade or anything like that. Also yes, Proton's support I'm myself surprised at, what wide range it is in there now. And to games that don't wanna comply? I don't support in return. Simple as that. Be a smart gamer is all it takes.
Now you have more RAM
to run great nothings
I finally made the switch to gaming full time through Linux on PopOs!(between Steam Proton, Litrus, Bottles, and my Steam Deck). Even my Steam year in review was showed that over 72% of my gaming was through Linux. I haven't looked back, and don't miss Windows. Great video.
I'm getting close to the point of switching to Linux, now that it's much easier to run Windows games and apps through Linux, I'm seeing little need for Windows and honestly, Linux is much better under the hood than Windows is.
As for games and apps that don't work through Linux, who cares lol, they don't get my money, it's as simply as that, after all, it wouldn't take much effort for the developers for most of the games that don't work, to get working, if they can't be bothered, I don't see why I should give them any money.
@@paul1979uk2000 That's the attitude. Just don't support that crap. They'd be just milking more and more from you and not care about how you feel about your experience.
I have been a Windows Power user since childhood. I had reinstalled Windows 3.11 as well as Windows 95 multiple times before even leaving the elementary school (no joke - I love IT and always have). But during my bachelors degree in computer science (shocking, I know!) I got so fed up that I dropped Windows and moved to Linux. Haven't missed it since. Every time I have to use Windows at work, it just reminds me of how insanely bad it actually is.
Today I learned what the Templates folder does... interesting!
same :)
I just entered the Templates folder on Pop!_OS with Nautilus and it actually tells you at the top what the purpose of the folder it. It's crazy to me that I had never seen that before.
Lol, had no idea what that was for. Can't think of a use for it at the moment, but I'm glad its there.
Totally feel you. I have to keep using Windows at work. It's pure pain these days.
Hey, me too
@@dreaper5813 I can deal with it in the office. But for any job, I am actively going to avoid anything that requires Linux.
You described my feelings to Linux precisely: this year is the first year I can wholeheartedly recommend Linux to techy/gaming folks without great caveats
I switched to pop after an incident where every single windows machine in my studio crashed, bluescreened, and became systemically unusable over the course of. 5. Minutes.
It's been amazing, and outside of some trouble with navigating gaming with my friends, it's been excellent
When a simple wifi issue occured under windows that in the past was a simple right click in Win7 took multiple searches to diagnose and multiple windows to dig through to get to the screen I needed to fix... I was done with windows 11. It's a time wasting OS that has the power to drag down an entire Nations productivity - Gates is evil. F' that guy.
What was the incident??
@@coreyw427"where every single windows machine in my studio crashed, bluescreened, and became systemically unusable over the course of. 5. Minutes."
I made the switch to Linux a couple of months ago. Distro hopped a bit and found something I really love. Even throughout that process, I never once considered going back to Windows. Can’t see a situation where I ever WILL.
Same here. Don't see any benefit for Windows anymore. Linux nowadays runs much better.
Same
which distros did u try?
linux mint 21.2 64 bit has come along way since i last used it ... highly Re command it and stay in one distro ... mint has pretty much everything i need to run all my games via steam natively and the direction windows is headed dont need it my self
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC is pure heaven for me
I am glad to hear this. I moved to Linux 100% in 2020. Fedora Workstation 35 at the time. It's been so good and stable. Way better than Windows. :)
Fedora 39 is still very stable. Such a good distro, I am just scared of Red hat do something dumb to it since I am using Fedora as my main desktop.
Firetruck windows, I just love Linux way more, especially Fedora
yeah fedora is really good but whenever i hear about red hat trying to kill it im glad that i use debian-based and arch-based and gentoo distros for everything
@@tacokoneko Then you heard wrong. RedHat uses Fedora as upstream, and they need it!
@@tacokoneko Good for you, I'll stick to Fedora since Asusctl supports Fedora the best. If It starts to support Debian then I can switch to it lol
If RedHat borks Fedora, I might consider jumping to OpenSUSE or AlmaLinux, so I'm not that worried
This is exactly why I tend to disconnect other drives before installing Windows (or any OS) especially if one exists that I wish to preserve and keep untouched.
Its annoying when you have nvmes under the graphics cards and so on (maybe disable in bios?), what I did last I installed windows a few years ago, was to install it in qemu passing through only one physical drive.
@@johanngambolputty5351 Yup. Know exactly what you mean. Got one there myself. I don't really dual boot anymore so it isn't an issue now but I used to.
Exactly, just to be sure
I made the switch to Linux as my full time desktop OS 10 years ago, and it never fails me. Welcome to the Linux family!
I switched form Mac to Linux about a year ago, I it is soooo much better than Mac OS. Plus, I'm not in the Apple trap anymore (Trapple). I can buy my own computer, and scale it THE WAY I WANT IT.
Ok, I think you just convinced me to switch my gaming PC over to Linux. I have switched nearly everything I have over to it, all my laptops and such. Now it's time for my desktop to get the same treatment.
I switched my whole family to Linux Mint. I'm not spending over 4000 dollars on new Computers to make Microsoft happy. They can go take a hike.
@@STONE69_ Exactly. Every machine other than the aforementioned gaming rig runs Linux in one form or another. My personal laptop and my mother's laptop run Debian, my dad runs Mint, though I plan on getting him on Debian too, and the living room desktop runs Arch. Also have a multipurpose home server running Debian
Big fan of debian obviously lol
You have the soul of an emperor
@@nothanks5531 An emperor penguin 🐧 perhaps? ;)
@@STONE69_ My laptop from 2016 supports Windows 11. How old is your hardware? I'm not making a case to not switch to Linux, I just don't see why this is the argument to do it.
I know it wasn't the purpose, but you helped me with the AMD issue on Windows 😅😂 Thank you!! It has been so annoying seeing Windows forcing the update on the AMD driver on another computer I have at home
As to your issue, the simple trick is to always install Windows first if you're going to dual boot. I've been doing it for quite some time and I have no complains at all! Depending on the distro, you can also enable secure boot and it works fine (even with an Nvidia card, in my case)
Merry xmas to you! Enjoy!!
Yeah, you're right that it wasn't completely intentional but I like showing things like that.
Thanks and a Merry Christmas to you too
Yup, Windows first, with that disk isolated. That trick has kept me out of trouble as well.
The trick is.......
Never Dual Boot and always use MBR partitions for Windows
Of course this trick may not work for you, just as your trick will not work for me
Everyone has their own trick!
I have an external SATA + Power cable running out of the back of my computers and all Windows backups are MBR
To run Linux, I simply plug in the Linux SSD and power on
To run Windows 11, I simply plug in the Windows 11 SSD and power on
To run Windows 10, I simply plug in the Windows 10 SSD and power on
To run Windows 8.1, I simply plug in the Windows 8.1 SSD and power on
To run Windows XP-SP2, I simply plug in the Windows XP-SP2 SSD and power on
To run DOS 5.0 or 6.22, I simply insert the 8cm mini CD-R and boot directly to DOS
There is no need to enter the BIOS to select a drive as the computer boots directly from whichever drive is attached
There is no need to enter the BIOS to switch between MBR or EFI as all the Installs are MBR
Any Windows version can be restored to any drive as all MBR backups are compatible with each other, but not with EFI
I am the guy who has been banned from EVERY tech site on the Internet for saying that Windows XP "CAN" be securely used online
I study malware online using XP-SP2 in a Full Admin account and without even one single MS security update
I was banned for openly challenging Russian Ransomware Gangs, Iranian Wiper distributors, the Israeli Military, the Chinese Military, the NSA and anyone else on the Planet to WRECK MY XP BOX and to force me to wipe the drive and restore a clean backup
I have been running this test system "ONLINE" for more than 9 and 1/2 years without a single malware problem
In May 2024, it will be 10 YEARS!
The last Bluescreen of Death on this system was 14 years ago
As I've said, your tricks work for you but not for me
MY tricks work for ME!
Bullwinkle J Moose
I never used SATA except years ago with old HDs. So to get an external SSD m.2 Nvme 2280 to boot as soon as you turn on the computer you connect to an external SATA ssd adapter which has m.2 ssd? The USB to M.2 SSD will not work for booting corrrect? you need to use SATA since the BIOS can detect it? Just need to verify.... ya I am afraid to install Linux on my other SSDS worried it might write over my main SSD which has Win11. Like what happened to Mike Horn.... corrupts the UEFI partition... thanks anyways..@@bullwinklemoose7232
I still think it's shameful on Microsoft's part that they still don't have options to select drive configuration at install, like come on, basically every linux distro has had the option for years now...
Good for you! The main thing is to have a stable system that works for you and not some corporation. I hope someday, Windows won't be needed at work, but for now, I can relax with my Linux systems at home away from that mess.
0:30 The most interesting thing is that the BTRFS file system with a tool created by openSUSE called Snapper can make the system the cleanest using rollbacks for both / partition and /home. I have configured it this way on both Arch Linux and Debian 12, and when I create a snapshot for / and /home on a bare system, install, for example, the KDE environment, test it or tinker with it, I can return the state of the bare system and install GNOME
Does it work out of the box or does it need custom partitioning.
Both Debian (if used with BTRFS) and Fedora don't support BTRFS backups in all solutions (e.g. Timeshift)
@@MichaelNROH If you are asking, then TLDR is not out of the box, but Debian itself supports everything if you produce a partition manually, I used the debootstrap package for this by downloading to the Debian Standard image or using the Arch Linux image (yes, you can install Debian from under the Arch ISO). Having made a bash script out of this process, you are ready
The base package is has a manual setup, and there are a handful of applications that allow you to configure it in a GUI. btrfs-assistant is the most common.
There's also an application called snap-pac that automatically creates backups pre and post system updates on Arch-based systems. (I run Arch btw. :D) That way, if something breaks on update you can just roll back the OS immediately after. snap-sync allows you to backup to an external drive. And finally, grub-btrfs allows you to have your backups show up as boot options if you've got GRUB for your bootloader and use BTRFS.
Garuda Linux does all of this automatically out of the box, so you don't even need to set up anything. Saved my butt a couple of times on my work laptop. Actually, Garuda is the only reason I even know snapper exists. Timeshift is a good alternative, based on what I've seen it do in Fedora, but it's not a hands-off solution.
@@MichaelNROH As for the manual partitioning of the disk separately / this is btrfs, /boot/efi is the bootloader. For btrfs subvolumes (I mark them with the @ symbol), it is recommended
/mnt/@ => /mnt
/mnt/@home => /mnt/home
/mnt/@snapshots => /mnt/.snapshots/
/mnt/@home_snapshots => /mnt/home/.snapshots
/mnt/@var_lib_AccountsService => /mnt/var/lib/AccountsService
/mnt/@var_lib_gdm => /mnt/var/lib/gdm3 (for Arch its just /mnt/var/lib/gdm)
The following is necessary for the snapper-rollback, which, when specifying the snapshot id, will throw the broken one into /.btrfsroot and sign it with the date, it must be deleted manually with the command `btrfs su de /.btrfsroot/@T`
Mounting with only one option subvolid=5 => /mnt/.btrfsroot
This action is necessary for the GNOME environment to be able to boot into the Read-only snapshot created by grub-btrfs
chmod -v 775 /mnt/var/lib/AccountsService/
chmod -v 1770 /mnt/var/lib/gdm3/
Just make `genfstab -U /mnt >> /mnt/etc/fstab` (genfstab is in the arch-install-scripts package available in Debian and Arch Linux) and using such a disk layout it will write to fstab itself
It is very important that you mount tmp as tmpfs with the rw (Read and Write) option, otherwise Debian will not be able to load Xorg and systemd services when logging into the snapshot
Plus more filesystem-related stuff, bcachefs is going to support automatic storage tiering soon - so you can just throw all your drives into the filesystem and it'll automatically put more used files on faster drives and less used files on slower drives
You've taken an important step forward in your journey, young Jedi.
For me, the performance is the one that pushed me to use Linux because I only have 4 GB of ram and can't use most of them. Now, I'm on Endeavour OS and having so much fun.
This is one benefit of Linux that isn't mentioned too often. Even on a high end system, simple tasks just seem so much quicker on Linux compared to Windows. No matter how powerful your computer, it seems to take Windows File explorer 2 seconds to open. If you are running Linux on a potato, it seems to take a half second to open the file manager of your choice.
@@reekinronald6776 im sorry but if it takes 2 seconds to open file explorer on windows then you don't have a good computer.
I installed linux after watching a lot of memes, videos explaining linux vs windows and I really liked linux. After installing ubuntu I can say I really liked Linux as I was able to download and run a lot of applications which didn't even open in windows, like VScode, Arduino IDE, etc. You can imagine what was the condition of my windows with only 4 GB ram (Yes! Only 4 Gb which is only slightly better than 2 GB). Linux is really good, my laptop has really changed and become usable bevause of linux!
Imagine what you could do with a good distro.
@@svcross-do what distros you consider as good?
@@whzysywuxhhs I'm going with Debian and KDE
- AMD driver thing is an AMD issue. They mess up on their version numbering constantly, so Microsoft thinks the GPU driver is waaay out of date. This doesn't happen on NVIDIA.
- Both Fedora and Ubuntu do the same EFI partition thing. ESPs are designed to be one single partition. Even if you dictate Windows, Fedora or Ubuntu to do otherwise, they still look up for an existing EFI partition. GRUB is partially in fault here, as their installation shell commands are also way too generic. I still cannot install Fedora to this day as it installs its boot files into itself instead of any EFI partition, and forgets to create its own GRUB entry to the actual EFI GRUB installation.
I learned the hard way about that windows EFI folder thing. After that always just disable the other drives from bios before install windows.
Me Too Back In The Windows 7 days! I Install Legacy Now! I left Windows After The Support For 7 Ended! Will Never Go back And Allow Our Government To ILLEGALLY Spy On me Or Those My PC Connects With!
I also started using Linux this year. I am trying to get used to that system. I hope that as many people as possible will switch to Linux. It would make Linux a lot better and make it more compatible with things that only work on Windows.
I switched to linux a month ago and I love it so much. Windows was very bloated and felt slow after some time but linux feels snappy and fast and I love how linux is so much more customizable then windows.
I went back to Windows after 3 years on Linux, sorry guys
No worries. Everyone is entitled to a choice 🙃
@@dreaper5813I am in a similar situation, let me show you my reasoning:
- I like the way Windows handles security permissions (the DAC system)
- I want to use NVIDIA Frame Gen and Gsync
- Dual booting was taking too much space and I could use WSL2
- Wayland wasn't fully working with NVIDIA
- Need NVIDIA for AI (unfortunately, can't change to AMD)
Edit:
- I use AppLocker on Windows, fapolicyd unfortunately doesn't support signature rules
@@dreaper5813 1. I can't keep it offline, because I need to use it lol
2. Yeah, it would be nice to have a different system... if I had the money.
Dude, Linux is not a religion
@@dreaper5813 Dude, why do you push Linux so much? I like Linux as well (like a lot), but I also understand some people have different requirements than me.
And what I meant about offline usage is that some apps that I use on Windows require internet, so I can't use it offline.
@@dreaper5813 But, I didn't disagree with you, having Windows on a different machine is a good idea. I just said that I don't have money to do so.
Besides, I was asking why are you so agressive in pushing Linux? I actually want a reply from you, I am curious (I am not arguing back, just legit curious)
Been using windows since win 98 but have disliked it's direction since win 10 and resolved this year to switch. After distro hopping a few times i settled on Garuda and have once more found I actually enjoy using a OS that is not trying to subvert my goals because they have their own agenda. Linux just is a breath of fresh air in today's tech environment. Also it runs 95%+ of my windows games thanks to steam's proton
I'm coming up on two years on moving to Kubuntu as my OS of choice on my desktop. I've never been happier with this computer. Performance feels better and as I mostly play either solo (like Cities Skylines), or co-op games (like Satisfactory, American Truck Sim), I've never worried about the whole Anti-Cheat issue.
It's amazing how reliable the system now is. I do not miss the bluescreen issues...
for me what pushed me was the future of Windows to make me bail. the fact that "AI" and cloud computing were going to be major factors in releases such as Windows 12 disgusts me. it feels like microsoft isn't just trying to make them own your computer, but also its metal, not to mention the high potential for disinformation coming from language models.
Yeah, subscription models in whatever form will take over at some point. There is no way that Microsoft could keep it for free at the curren amount of power and storage requirements.
Windows 12 will certainly include a lot of always online functionality and I'm curious how it all will play out
They Can Not Stand open debate Because Their Policies Are NONSENSE! Thus The Need To Censor And The Main reason I Use Rumble Mostly! When YT Forces Me to Disable Ad-Blocker I Will Be Gone! They Tried To For A Couple Of Hours but Let Up! That Being Said Windows OS Is SPYWARE/MALWARE If You Trust The Government With Your Data Then Windows Is For You!
Windows 11 is what concerned me. I held out on 10 and left just in time as I have been hearing MS has backported some of those 11 features I didn’t want to 10
@@classicrockonly They Did The Same thing With 7! They UPDATED The Telemetry! Simply put They Leave Holes In The Firewall For Our Government To Spy On Us! the Big Problem I Have Is If You Leave Holes In The Wall The RATS get In!!
@@MichaelNROH They are also apparently looking into offline AI support with NPU support.
Abandoned Windows 11 for Ubuntu 23.10 and now it's set up as a near 1:1 replacement for it. Took some work but I'll never go back
Windows is a POS OS, switch to LINUX
I just found out that the template-feature in the GNOME file manager even exists. Fells like changing my whole life 😂
Yeah, why does seemingly no one know what it does?
Seems like a usability oversight almost
ngl when I made the switch a few years ago there was the growing pain of learning the do's and dont's on linux just like using windows for the first time, but once I got passed that and get comfortable with my own setup, I just couldn't imagine switching back. Also, this year is definitely the biggest linux improvement that i've seen in a decade.
The improvements each year in the last 5 years have been insane. I first tried Linux in the oughts (maybe 2006?) and I just couldn't adjust. Every few years I tried it again until around 2021 when I found it had matured and even allowed me to game. Wouldn't even consider looking back now.
Great video. As someone new to Linux, I'm surprised to realize how much simpler Linux is in many ways than Windows as you point out, specially in the OOBE and installation.
Im on Arch for about 3 years now and only time I had to use windows was to change mouse settings in its trash driver. never looked back and using terminal is completely natural to me now
Oh yeah, that's a struggle here as well. But only because the mouse I use I like and don't really wanna change it, as I love having a macro to open a terminal with a single mouse click. Otherwise as well, I never ever used terminals all that much and now I can't imagine doing things without it. The notion how it sucks and the scaring of people is just amusing to me. Shows how current society is just unwilling to learn, adapt and maybe discover that different workflows can actually work so much better for them. But why bothering, right...so lazy, they'd rather be getting everything handled on a silver plate like they'd be still living with their parents, like crybabying kids...
Because here's the main problem. Freedom requires effort. But effort scares a lot of people.
I gave up on Windows 10 after my laptop would get random BSOD, i couldn't figure it out and it worked fine on Linux.
That was in 2016, and i haven't touched Windows since.
I gave an attempt in daily-driving Linux last Oct. Needless to say, I stayed on till Feb this year before begrudgingly switching back to Windows due to some graphics driver issues on a new machine. Dipped my toes back in June and never looked back since. The experience is even better now because those issues are either fixed or have a workaround. And the newer power management in kernel 6.x works great on my system. I'm drawing quite a lot less power than I was in the battery-saving mode in Windows. Btw I use Arch(-based distro).
you madet he full switch already. btw. ;)
Yet another EXCELLENT video! Keep up the great work!
Thanks you
I feel like it's the same story every year. "I only had to sacrifice a couple things" and the silent part "oh, I don't use those things"
Which I seriously found I either don't, or alternatives provided to be useful enough. But this takes something called effort - which is what a lot of current society is scared of.
I do a lot of multiboot and use refind as bootmanager. Strongly recommended. When windows efi is deleted, install the windows bootloader by hand on a small separate fat partition with bcdboot. Refind will boot it. I also use a separate efi system partition for linux installs. For me its a 2nd efi partition of more than 2 gigs as Pop OS needs that space for kernels. Playing around, i found you can have a lot of efi partitions on the system. Windows tends to overwrite bootorder in the firmware sometimes, when a 2nd os is on same efi. Therefore the separate linux efi. Works on many machines since years for me.
Yeah, manual partitioning would be even better. Shoul've went with that, but man I'm lazy when it comes to installing 😅
@@MichaelNROH If you want a job done fast, just give it to a lazy man or woman and they will find the easiest/fastest way to do it.
One of things I really like about Linux OS is the easy plug-and-play for hardware peripherals. This is especially true when hooking up drawing tablets like Wacom. On Windows, finding the right driver can be nightmare. Even Wacom's own site doesn't even provide the correct driver in some cases, so it becomes an arduous task of reinstalling different versions until the correct one is found.
In contrast, all I have to do on Ubuntu is plug in the hardware and the OS automatically finds the correct driver so the device is ready to go immediately.
Also I think Windows only supports one tablet driver at once because of system files that get replaced. That has never happened to me on Linux
True of many things but some stuff is unsupported entirely or it's a nightmare to set up. Ever try to get an Xbox one controller working under Arch?
wow, same with me, i havent booted into windows because i couldnt be bothered to figure out how to add it as a boot option lol
Also an approach I guess
I've been checking out your videos on and off. Absolutely love your accent.
Congratulations, love your videos so much info and great tools.
Thank you very much
I installed Windows 10 and 11 recently. 30 minutes to download the file. 2 hours to install. 30 minutes to run all the updates. 40 minutes to set up and turn of the Bloat. ... Linux Mint Xfce it took me just a little over 1 hour to complete everything. Installing Windows has become a nightmare with all the Bloat and Services and Spyware, the pop ups and prompts. 90% of my Computer time is now on Linux Mint Xfce.
2 hours to install windows?Are you kidding me? What are you installing? An fit girl repack:D?
It was on a Tuesday, when they download updates to everyone, but still LOL It was on a I7 Computer with plenty of juice. People with an older Celeron are saying it takes a full day. Give a try and let me know.
@@STONE69_ i installed win 11 to I3 processor with 4gb ram and it took no longer than 40 min to install windows. Not sure what you did there...
Intel celeron is not suitable for win 11 and should be avoided.
And im not sure what you all see in that linux, it's much more complicated and i see no benefits of using it.
@@tomasrazgus7331 even if it took you 40 minutes, it still took you over 2 hours to complete everything. The download, install, updates and set up.
@@tomasrazgus7331 it is actually a lot less complicated and significantly faster especially on low spec computers.
We actually share the same reason for dualbooting. I mainly use Fedora but because of Ubisoft i have to boot into Windows, to play with my friends. They simply just could enable the Anti Cheat for Linux (BattlEye is already Linux compatible. It was Devs Choice to Opt Out).
A couple of ubisoft games support proton as well, which makes it doubly annoying. ( The Division 1 and 2 for example).
I've had issues with Ubisoft as well, and earlier this year I was unable to run The Crew, but now when I tried again this week I was actually able to play it, like I'm happy now. But yes, the fact that devs screw with users like this is actually disgusting, especially considering that there is a userbase for it, even tho we're not as many yet, but still. I'd rather not play or support anymore if that's the case, but I won't switch back to windows, don't have a need to, and just to play a specific game, I'm too lazy to jump though loops to just do it, already removed windows from all my devices, not planning on going back
Ever since I started using Silver blue, I've not had to reinstall my operating even once I believe. The OS is just ends up way more cleaner over time and all development is relegated to containers. It always feels fresh whereas when I use the standard sort of distro, I always feel like I've messed something up in the OS somewhere along the lines and reinstall or hop. So I guess for me personally, I stopped hopping at Fedora and stopped reinstalling at Silverblue.
Same exact story for me.
It's nice that you saw the light. I started using Linux in 1998, when everything was very different than it is today (before it even support any kind of USB); I worked with it and endured tremendous frustration. By around 2001 - 2002, I was mostly done with M$ and aside from the occasional need for M$ for school (I was just finishing university), I was using Linux exclusively. I've been doing so ever since. It's nice that today, we access to any kind of server we want as well as have these in our own homes on our own networks; this is ALL thanks to Linux.
About the same path. I would say that Linux and the Linux Desktop could be a viewed as hobby up until about the time Canonical came out with Ubuntu around 2005. Before then, the incredible amount of work to install and maintain a stable system was just too much for the average user. Add to this that the quality of applications were no where close to the quality of Windows or Apple.
Around 2015 everything seemed to gel with regard to ease of install, stability of the top distributions, the quality of applications and just over all quality of the day to day experience. Has been improving tremendously ever since. Gave up windows completely for my home around 2016.
I switched to linux in early 2022 on both my gaming pc and my thin-and-light laptop and it's been just blissful.
Games that don't work get refunded.
That's actually a good way to handle it. It's surprising how many people don't know that you can refund a game on Steam at all.
Golden advice for any Linux user, don't use the custom installer of a distro with default settings (if you don't install from the tty which applies to most users) but make sure that your home-partition is on a separate partition. Advantage: any new clean install of the Linux-OS will only take around 3-4 minutes (on modern hardware) and you can just use the same home-partition every time and you don't have to set up anything, just install the destkop environment or windowmanager with whatever themse and icons and such you need and you are done immediately.
Wait the home directory can be used by other distros?
@@FantomMisfit It absoluteley can. I have a bad habbit of forgetting this during the installation process regularly, though.
@vercetti2100 That's really good to know. Thanks
That GNOME Template trick genuinely blew my mind! I wish it was properly implemented like on Windows, with icons and all that, but it's a step forward at least!
We are the same.😂😂
My reason to make kde neon my daily driver was very similar to yours. It's just too simple, easy and lightweight. Additional to that, the community is huge. Hence, a problem you run into has already been solved most of the time. If not, you can easily do it by spending a little time.
An important distinction: Microsoft did not "see that app stores were better"; the rapacious soulless ghouls (less-hateful, more charitable entities refer to them as "marketers") saw what was being gotten away with in the mobile space and saw an opportunity to squeeze more profit while holding up the shield of "for your safety".
That's another reason yes.
Microsoft's motives are different, but they act as a trusted source repository which automatically brings all the advantages with them
@@MichaelNROH The trouble there is the implication they could be the *only* trusted source - just like in mobile, said ghouls would tell the development team to disallow installation from any source outside the Microsoft store. We all know it's coming.
*say
let's just hope that one day gaming will be fully compatible on linux, because actually a lot of games are unplayable and its a pain to sacrifice gaming, that's actually the only reason i'm still using windows as main os
I think it's inevitable.
There are so many companies that could make Linux consoles. Especially in China where Linux is already utilized more heavily.
It's pretty low effort in comparison to creating a console with a complete proprietaty third party OS which requires game ports
No. It's about more than gaming.
why on earth do we still have to use Windows to manage critical systems in manufacturing chains?
And that's just one ginormous example.
There's more...
Nowaday most games work fine with performance on par with windows.
The main, almost only issue remaining is related to anticheats, some are not compatible, some are and developers do or do not enable them allow to be ran through wine/proton. I dont know a single game that doesnt run on linux aside from anticheat compatibility issue.
@@garyn1780 Yes, when I'm talking about gaming and linux compatilibity the main issue is anticheat.
Hey Michael, I had the exact same issue with the EFI partition,
I too deleted my EFI Boot partition so I could not boot into windows.
There is a fix I found, but for a moment I too contemplated not using windows after that.
Keep up the amazing videos, funny coincidence there!
What's the fix if I may ask.
Yes windows is crap.
The dam OS lags a lot and i can't even upgrade to windows 11 as my Laptop doesn't meet the necessary requirements like TPM 2.0 support and also as per Microsoft my processor isn't supported ( i5 - 63400U 2.4Ghz) as well.
Well there is a way to bypass all this but Microsoft warns that they won't be responsible for any problem if force upgrade is made.
And not sure will provide updates or not.
What nonsense is this by Microsoft.
And to top it all after 2025 windows 10 will no longer be receiving security updates.
So either purchase new advanced laptop or use windows 10 without receiving security updates.
So guess the time to switch to Linux is coming.
Screw Microsoft.
Considering that you have often revealed yourself as a Linux apologist in past videos, this was to be expected and is hardly surprising.
I love how straight forward it is to install Linux on an old computer that had an old version of Windows. Brings it right up to date with no messing about.
I love seeing Linux get more visibility and positive comments!
That was me almost 3 years ago, when valve officially announced the steamdeck i went full linux. No more dual booting, no more windows forcing me to upgrade for their tpm shenanigans. The only online games i play are dota 2 and StarCraft 2. All my other steam library games have no anticheat so it works great for me
I appreciate this channel. I’m looking to switch from Windows to Linux later this year.
Thinking about switching to Linux, probably PopOS, for years now. I will start dual booting next year, than work myself into do my work more with Linux. Thanks for the video
Try switching the applications you use first, many Linux programs (like Gimp, Libreoffice, ...) are compatible with Windows, so you can get used to them.
>Bungie refuses to enable anti-cheat support
No, they insisted on requiring Windows-only anti-cheat. There's a bit of a difference. They made a design decision that makes their software incompatible with Proton/Linux.
If it was not doing work to make it compatible, that'd be one thing (and easily justified, given Linux market share). But they actually did do work which made it incompatible, which is harder to defend. Personally, this sort of thing just makes it easier to filter out games I shouldn't bother with. There's too many games worth playing already, so another way to filter is handy.
The anti cheat they use actually supports proton. But bungie just refused to enable the patch
That's only sorta true. Bungie uses a customized kernel level AC from Battleye, but it's not something that Battleye themselves couldn't fix
today I learned about how to use the template folder. thank you Mr. Horn.
It's good for something, yeah
I feel like I can't live without a gnome workspace workflow will all the custom keyboard shortcuts I've set.
Now you can write your own DESTINY ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The reason I imagine non-techy people are fine using Windows is they didn't have to install it themselves. Installing Windows is way more annoying than installing something like Fedora or Mint.
85% of all people in the World that own a computer, don't have a clue to what Linux even is, and have no clue to how to install an OS from scratch.
Great video Michael, I only use Windows for my desktop literally every server I have in a VM is Linux and it just works so much faster and better!
I just bought a new PC with Windows 11 after two years I will be switching to Linux. Windows is so archaic, I can't believe we still have to check each program for updates, Linux has an update manager and when a program has an update you just click on the update manager to get it.
I quit Windows less than a month ago. Sometimes my screen would freeze for a second and if I was unlucky some programs would get closed from an issue I was not able to even find for 4 months. It turns out that Windows replaced my integrated graphics driver with a faulty one and from there everything started being very unstable.
I was either going to install Windows again and possibly face some other issue again or switch to Linux and never have to deal with my system breaking itself because of random updates.
Updates can break things in Linux also. But all the other benefits of switching to Linux are totally worth it.
Oh god.. thanks for the video!
I was happy using Linux, I still decided to install Win11 again (also for games and idk.. I just want to keep a small Win partition) but goddamn, Windows is so agressiv with the Install and very outdated. Windows always messed up my Linux install, I had a mental breakdown, because I lost data.. but luckily, I got it back.
I don't trust Windows anymore, I will disconnect every drive, before installing Windows. I also use a seperate drive, just to be safe. Let's just hope the more (game) devs will care for Linux and Steam will stay relevant and push Gaming on Linux!
@dreaper5813 90% of my games are playable on Linux. Idk why, but I just want to keep a small windows partition, just to see the progress, and for extremly rare cases, when I need it.
I don't play Windows only games actively. I quit Valorant, but I would like to play Fortnite (shame on me), I can live without those, but I really hope, that riot games will release Project L for Linux ... or at least not actively fight against linux, this is the only game I'm hyped for.
I was the same! I only had Windows because I was playing Destiny 2! But Destiny has been going down for a while, also I never been a pvp guy, thought BattleBit is nice game to touch now and then, I just wanted to support the devs. But yeahs Linux is got everything that I need, so im hella chillin.
thx for the video,
i recently re-install windows 11 on a mini pc and i couldn't skip the phase to create an MS account....that so annoying....
in the past on a laptop if we aren't connect to the internet we could skip the account creation...
Currently for the Home edition, it's only possible via a set Registry key sadly, yeah
I need Windows for VR, that's it. I hope I live to see the day that VR works, without compromise, on Linux.
Steam has your back!
@@TheWebstaff When?
I plan on moving to Linux in the following weeks but I still don't know much about it, so I was interested in knowing what are the "compromises" you are talking about ? (I ask this because I have an Oculus Rift S but I've got idea if I will still be able to use it or not). Thank you ^^
ALVR works on Linux with the Quest 2, Quest 3, Gear VR just every Meta VR head set. Wired and Wireless. And SteamVR works out of the box with the Valve Index, HTC Vive, and that OVR Headset.
@@quinniwe I have a Quest 3. ALVR is a huge 'compromise'. Also, my Oculus game library is much bigger than my Steam VR library.
I'm still waiting for a no-compromise VR solution in Linux. I'm pretty sure it's not coming.
I find it hilarious that for an operating system that is designed to be user friendly, Windows is so hard to install.
The way that you have to put in work to not use an online Microsoft account is highly anti-user
I have been using Linux for some time and never knew about the template dir thing. Thanls!
Great video and welcome to the full time daily driver club. I've been wanting to full time linux for years now, but the problem was always games. Primary VR games which dont work the best on linux atm.
Finally in 2022 I was able to pull the trigger because of an awesome piece of software called looking-glass, with looking glass and a 2nd gpu to pci passthrough to a windows vm im able to confidently stay on linux full time and have a backup gaming vm for the games I dont want to miss out on. It's truly the best of both worlds.
If you're interested, I can give you more details
People call desktop Linux hard to use while dealing with that much bs from Windows...
This is gonna sound real stupid, but what made me finally decide to make a real attempt at switching was reading about the pipe command a few days ago. Then spending a bunch of time reading about all sorts of commands and bash scripts and suddenly realizing all sorts of things I could do.
could you give some examples? for everyday use? also do you have a programming background?
Certain tools that let you watch streamed content pipes audio/video streams to video players that supports it (i.e. mpv or VLC), AKA watching them without going to a browser.
Ya I'm at that point to where I'm done with Windows. Now that steam has steam link for the quest headsets I'm totally gonna switch to Pop OS soon as I get my AMD hardware next year. :)
I saw your vid yesterday already but since I was on my phone I was to lazy to write a comment.
Crazy to hear you having the same experience with Windows' EFI partition, I experienced the same when I tinkered around in BIOS and considered to reinstall openSuSE too.
My system currently runs fine and albeit writing it a lot, I still need Windows for VR games and thus just hope Valve makes the Quest SteamLink tool work with Linux rather sooner than later too.
Still, PSA for everyone regardless of how people stand towards either operating system should be: PULL THE OTHER SYSTEM'S DRIVE FROM THE COMPUTER BEFORE REINSTALLING THE OTHER.
Merry Christmas.
I've dabbled with linux over the past 17 years, usually switching back to windows after a few weeks. I've been unhappy running windows for a while especially since windows 11 (I've got many grievances)
I recently decided to pop over and have another look so I loaded up Fedora 39 KDE and I'm really impressed.
I''m running a Ryzen 7800x3d and a RX 7900XTX and games actually run better (and more stable) for me on Fedora with Steam Proton than they did running native on Windows 11 pro.
Everything just seems to work a lot better, my dual monitor setup works very well also.
I think I am also done with windows.
The only reason I use Windows is my capture card and work. I wish I could hammer home how easy it is to install stuff on Linux most of the time.
PCIe device by chance?
I had an Elgato Camlink Pro for a short time and it also only worked on Windows.
Luckily it broke after 2 weeks already and I got to return it 😅
Elgato I bought one right before the next one had Linux support. @@MichaelNROH
The timing on this is so funny! i just reinstalled arch and deleted the bootloader knowing this would happen. I plan on using a usb to repair the windows boot loaded lol
Hi Michael,
Thank you for the video!
I was a Windows user from Win 3.0 to Win95 and so forth. By a friend i got enthusiastic about Linux which i use for over a year now.
In the beginning i was overwhelmed, had to learn the command-line, and get used to how Linux works. But hey, that's a learning curve, what you also have when learning a new languages for instance. But in the end, it was fantastic and wonder why i didn't kicked Windows earlier?
I must say that Linux distro's are grown up! I used Debian KDE and it is fantastic! No more boot-ups during updates as an example.
The stuff works!
@@MichaelDustter 😀
Fully agree to that!
After a while you will see the logical structure of Linux. When you uninstall programs, you really uninstall them, meaning nothing left behind. It's a simple example.
Those aliases are very handy indeed!
I have multiple servers whom i connect with aliases and of course a keyfile instead of user/password.
The biggest thing is that Linux can run on an old computer due the system resources.
Try this with a Win10 computer.
I have a full working media stack for my music and movies. And different communication servers, like ejabberd or NOSTR. Nextcloud for handling my documents.
All running within containers.
It is all worth it to say goodbye to Gates creations 🤑
We installed Pop OS on my brothers laptop (I use linux as daily drive) because it was so slow that it was impossible to do anything on windows. After i showed him how easy it is to install applications in discovery, he said "And how do I install apps the normal way, through the browser?" "You don't, thats the neat part" I replied. "But thats boring" ????💀
On the subject of updates bloating the system, that's one thing I love about updating stuff on linux, it's completely optional, and most of the time, reduces the total space taken up overall.
Yeah, I only agree somewhat on this.
Yes, you have a choice not to update, but it's not recommdable, especially if we talk about security patches.
@@MichaelNROH I agree with you on the security updates. Having the option though is so much nicer than a Windows machine booting up at night to update by itself.
@@GlobBlubbwhat? windows booting up by itself? it really does that when you don't cut all power? that is friggin scary as hell.
I ditched windows with fear that i will be in total chaos.after 1year with my Ubuntu i can't believe it how easy to use open source almost for everything and to donate to real developers that deserve it
I love the immutable distrobutions. Like Fedora Silverblue and Vanilla Os. Not having to manage your system and having your updates happen only when you restart while using distrobox to install anything either console or gui applications. I am currently using silverblue but waiting for Vanilla Os v2 to leave alpha which uses debian instead of ubuntu.
I think that immutable distros are a nice to have, but at the same time it can be quite bothersome if someone tries to install applications via a guide.
Stuff like sudo apt / dnf or whatever else just don't work by design out of the box, which messes up scripting.
It will take a while until everything is well enough documented that everyone understands that an immutable distro operates differently
What a problem is with Windows 11 if you install it again for example here a USB then after installing you need install drivers
But if I install Linux then it works better
I have also problems with daulboot between Linux and windows But if I remove Windows completely and only stay on Linux and later I want to re-install I get error message if I install windows 11 and then I need to install Windows 10 and then later upgrade to windows 11 I'm done with installing Windows I'm staying right now at Linux and also if I have a new device
Windows won't put an efi partition on another drive if the drive is formatted to something else already. So when reinstalling Windows you should always make sure only the drive you're installing isn't formatted. This'll basically bypass this stupid behavior.
Yep.
I usually do this, but I relied on the partitioner this time. My own wrongdoing
Ah fair enough. It's a very random thing to have to remember.@@MichaelNROH
Just subscribed after I caught at the corner of my eye- "I'm done with Windows" Good for you! 👍 I've used Linux since 2002! I HATE WINDOZ !!
I started using Debian as my main OS back in 2010,switched to Fedora in 2018. One of things I learned along the way that Dual-Boot is the best of both worlds,some software doesn't run on Windows while some doesn't even exist on Linux,another thing I learned is that you never dual-boot on the same drive,just install them separately and add windows to grub. I have never had any issues with this setup
I never get why people think Linux is hard with install. Even ignoring the Software store, on Debs it is simple sudo apt-get install "package" and thats it, you're done
Or make an alias, and make your life easier with it. For very example, instead of "sudo apt install", I do just "apt-I". Bam, a shortened command! But people are too effortless to adjust.
Imagine installing windows again because Destiny 2 got good again...
Jokes aside, developers should start develop games like a linux immutable distro, that runs in its own containers, is aware that it is in a container, and refuse to run when there are strangers within the containers, what happen outside the container doesn't affect the game. Basically stopping cheats from ever be compatible with the games, live service competitive games to be exact, and developers might become more open to other platforms than just windows.
Let's see what happens when The Final Shape releases.
I'm probably going to play it since I really like Destiny and have been playing since the D1 Beta.
The question now is, how I will play it. Maybe even Cloud Gaming for like a month
Sadly that wouldn't do much against cheats as they could still do memory manipulations through a kernel space driver without the user space anti-cheat ever knowing about it. The linux world won't accept a proprietary kernel space anti-cheat as it compromises your system security so that's out of the window. The most effective solution would be server side anti-cheat, never trusting the client, but dev's aren't very motivated for that because it's much harder and there is little financial incentive seeing as cheaters also bring in revenue. Might be easier to fix society so people don't cheat in the first place.
I've moved to Linux too, to be specific kubuntu.
Windows 11 is infuriating to use, to the brim full of infuriating bugs, ads and bloatware. Needs 5GB RAM to show the desktop.
kubuntu needs 700MB RAM. The KDE desktop is amazing. There is no ads. Everything is more snappy. It doesn't reboot in the middle of the night to install updates. I love it.
That boot loader thing hit me a while back and I sat there puzzled for ages why the boot loader was on literally a random data drive I had and not my system drive... I feel like that's something you should be able to specify.
Theoretically you can.
Just not via the GUI
You can specify. You have to manually do it though. When installing Windows, SHIFT-F10 into the command prompt. using Diskpart command, find the disk you want, select it and then use "create efi partiition size=500" you can make the size whatever you want, but I stick with 500. I only have Windows and Linux. But I also keep them using separate EFI partiitons on different drives.
It's been like this since EFI was introduced. Windows is nothing more than a decaying vision of an "operating system", which when you look deeper is just auto-generated spaghetti-code from hell held together with hundreds of thousand miles of duct tape and the tears of the Microsoft employees.
I just can't wait until I can fully switch to Linux: the general idea is appealing, the customization is absolutely appealing, and Windows nowadays is just... pretty (well for the parts that are updated), and that's it (which Linux can do as well if not better).
The only roadblock for me is that I use some specific Windows programs that don't exist on Linux, and don't work well (if at all) with Wine or Proton. But hopefully time might change that, either with emulation getting better, or because Linux popularity will make more and more Windows programs start supporting it.
That was also my issues with Linux for years, but in my case I have been able to get the programs I need to work with to be usable on Linux. Unfortunately it's not 100% as yet, but fortunately for me it works and I am happy with how it works. Unfortunately a lot of companies / devs still don't want to support Linux, which is bizarre to say the least, but hopefully with the Linux market share climbing, we might even see those softwares coming to Linux, but it may still be some years from now. My personal experience tho has been amazing, and I'm advocating for it at this point, telling friends and family about it, even if just to make them aware that there is something better out there. I've been running Debain 12 with KDE Plasma, and it even looks better than win 11, plus I can have my taskbar at the top, which 11 doesn't allow... Yeah, small stuff like that can be a dealbreaker, but Linux gives you the options to basically do what you want, how you want to. Hope you're able to make the switch sooner than later tho, all the best
@@MichaelDustter You got that right. The thing that really got me to jump ship was the fact that they were forcing OneDrive down your throat with "backups" of files and docs, which is kinda neat, but it made a cloud clone of your Documents folder, and whatever was cloned in there would automatically be "pasted" on a 2nd device if you used the same account, and because I have a gaming laptop for production related programs, a lot of the files and documents also gets stored in the Documents solder, and my 2nd laptop only has 128GB of storage, non swappable / expandable might I add... so with windows' antics, when it duplicated those files over, I deleted them on the smaller one with the idea that it'll still be backed up, but just not be on this device, and boy wasn't that further from the truth, it broke the setups and everything on my main machine, which really was the final nail in the coffin. I basically just there and then made a partition for Linux, made a bootable USB with Debian, installed it on the partition and haven't used windows since. After a few months I used my Linux instance to make a backup of the important files and documents from windows on an external drive, and did a fresh install of Debian and never looked back. Performance has improved, productivity has improved, and sure a few things have been a pain to set up and do, but once done, you're golden. What kept me from jumping ship before was compatibility with certain programs that aren't natively supported on Linux, but nowadays I'm able to run what I need to as if it's running in windows, so Linux has come a long way over the past few years.
Why was it such a big deal for GNOME to include an "empty new file" option by default in its file explorer? I can't see any downside to including it by default.
Whoa, I've been using Gnome for so long and didn't know that was what templates were for :o
Yep
thanks for the templates folder. literally today i was complaining to my friend about the inability to create new files without commandline in gnome/nautilus, but this is cool. it should have some basic documents by default tho.
I'm not sure. I guess the reasoning here is, that the menu isn't filled with things that not everyone needs.
I personally feel like there should be some indicator in the Desktop Environment that this can be done though