Ian is truly enjoying this gig, it shows. He is tiring out on second song when he bows and stays down a wile. Ian been on meds for epilipsy 2 months in this video and shows signs of effect from the barbituates. This was a month befor his daughter Natalie was born. Ian's true problems were just starting and appearing to show in his performances. Ian gave hid all which made this work and made for a very special performance that stands out today! He was a great singer, musician, and had great dance moves he alone created. Not only did Ian with the band make British History, Ian made Music History! Thanks Ian for all your hard work and talent from someone who truly appreciate you from America
i personally feel if he didnt commit suicide he would been able to refine his dance moves and become a dancing icon because ive never seen any musician with such raw energy. Regardless, Ian Curtis is a still a living legend and i just finished listening to their two albums. Gold!
He wasn't a 'great singer'; his ability fell very short even of Rock norms. But when you consider that he died at only 23, I have no doubt that had he lived and been coached, his incredibly powerful voice would have become as 'great' as Iggy, Lou or Jim.
You know, I discovered Unknown Pleasures when I was 13-14 (currently 33) by total happenstance, and its been one of my favorite records my whole life. But in reality Ian was gone 7 years before I was born, and 20-21 years before I discovered his music, yet I still to this tear up watching these old live shows, feeling like I was there, wish i was.
I was recently lamenting the lack of live footage of Joy Division besides the (albeit excellent) Something Else clips and Love Will Tear Us Apart promo video and a very limited selection of any other clips like this one. If anyone's got some then, for goodness sakes, put it out there ! Well done NarminaHadjieva
Joy division are on a class of their own we are blessed to have had such a unique and special artist as Ian such a talent and special person just so tragic he is not with us R.I.P Ian you will always be remembered for the legend you are
look at the bands energy it’s raw and beautiful. Listen to the crowds reaction they’re experiencing post-punk history while Joy Division is in their own realm bending the fabrics of reality.
Hopefully, when I'm unfettered from a body in time & space, I can ghost around Joy Division. Knew when I dropped a phonograph needle on the 12" of An Ideal For Living that THIS is why God gave me a radio show (MMom/WRUW. September, 1978)
Llevaba rato buscando este toque hay diversos live guardados incluso el de anything else me parece genial, pero las canciones, la expresión de los artistas en especial la de Ian, se aprecian de una manera muy singular magnífico ! Muy místico y tenebroso, Ian parece de otro mundo ...
This class amazing it was a pub in Altrincham only about 1hr away for me wish I witnessed this gig! They're always gonna be number one for me and she's lost control got me listening to them ! A truly great band
Whenever I have seen a band live whose music is for the most part something completely new to me, it is has always been difficult to know exactly how to move to the music. And when I see a band live, moving to the music for me is a MUST! That being said, I have always relied on the members of the band to show me the way ... usually the singer who tends to be the most energetic of any member of the band. Case in point being Ian Curits. What is obvious here though is that if you follow my lead ... or Ian's, the room would be filled with a bunch of people dancing The Epileptic Fit ... if there were such a dance :-) In the '80s I would from time to time try to dance like Ian to see if anybody would notice ... or follow my lead. I don't think it worked even one time :-P I do know people noticed but I'm not sure they wanted to emulate my "moves". The thing is, once I felt I had Ian's style down, I felt I could dance to pretty much ANYTHING! But I was probably one of the few who actually knew what Ian looked like dancing. Because around 1983 or 1984 I purchased Here Are The Young Men not on VHS, but Betamax tape. I still have it and it has only been played once! Because I had it copied to VHS because I didn't own a Betamax player, but the only way I could find the concert footage was on Betamax. So I had some place transfer the tape from Betamax to VHS for me because I needed to see Joy Division LIVE! And now we have TH-cam and anybody can watch Here are the Young Men :-) Ha! One person dislikes this video. Go figure?
Back in the day it was described as “ death disco” in underground fanzines and various music rags.That seems like a perfect moniker even to this day,no ?
@@thelooch9546 Agreed! I love that term as well as the PiL song of the same name from Metal 1 / 2nd Edition. I have though never understood why that song is known as Swan Lake on LP but Death Disco when released as a single? I had to look that up just now to satisfy my curiosity since we now have this thing known as The Internet. And it appears there is a slight difference that I was not aware of between single and LP version. Thank you for your comment because I would not know this tidbit of info had you not commented :-)
@Mr Oneiroman To this day I have yet to give The Pop Group a listen. I have heard them and do know what they sound like, but I honestly cannot remember what it was that put them atop my Must Listen To list. Usually that is enough to make it happen but the vinyl is costly and the mp3s I downloaded were crap. And seriously that never happens to me. I download mp3s too often with wonderful results! Anyway, all that said, you just got me back on track as I am listening to Y via TH-cam and will download as well as look into a vinyl purchase because downloading mp3s only does not sit well with me. I know buying an album off eBay or discogs does nothing to put $ in the musicians pockets unless I were to purchase New mp3s, I just cannot and will not do that. If I’m going to spend $ then I need something physical to look at, hold, admire, show off, etc. and mp3s for how convenient they are, I cannot do any of that with them and therefore do not love them the same way. And I hardly think I am unique in that way. One last thing. Of the 3 albums you mentioned, JD, PiL, Pop Group, I know I am going to do what I said and that is get Y one way or another, but like now, every time I have given any of that album a listen I have to prepare myself. Because let’s face it, even if you love that album, a person has got to admit it is Not the most accessible of listens. It is ... uh, challenging Yes No? I wouldn’t think it would be the first thing a person would put on the turntable after an exceptionally grueling day at work where you want to come hone, pop open a cold one, and relax to ... The Pop Group? Do you relax to them? I suppose you could after the 4th or 5th cold one. Eh, I will continue on my quest and see for myself. OK, enough of my ramblings. I have music to track down! Thx again for lighting that fire underneath me :-)
_I know a lot of people won't believe but I was there, it was not in Altrincham but in Bowden which is about a mile away, (next to Hale) funny thing was I wasn't a fan but went 'cos my girlfriend was. Not a bad gig, and afterwards she got her Tshirt signed by Ian & hooky._
Point to me where raw genuine human music is like this today? Not a copycat band or over produced to the point where it looses the human element. JD was notorious for not for not being able to play their instruments well, but i think their stuff is brilliant. No cellphones, no youtube(lol I'm a hypocrite), no apps and gadgets. Just raw feeling with no extra fat.
Funny how Ian dances around like Frankenstein while the band looks stoic. He’s also a terrible singer, but for some reason it just works. Style and originality can trump ability. There are some great technical singers out there that are a bore to listen to, just as there are technically terrible singers who I love to listen to. I’m a sucker for the older cure stuff and chuck mosely faith no more era. Let’s not forget how raspy Tom waits is or Dylan. Love joy division.
It isn't at all Considering that this is Joy Division And most of there gigs wasn't recorded on film like this It is rather good If your referring to the music itself Its actually brilliant Nothing like the modern shit being played on current day radio
Ian is truly enjoying this gig, it shows. He is tiring out on second song when he bows and stays down a wile. Ian been on meds for epilipsy 2 months in this video and shows signs of effect from the barbituates. This was a month befor his daughter Natalie was born. Ian's true problems were just starting and appearing to show in his performances. Ian gave hid all which made this work and made for a very special performance that stands out today! He was a great singer, musician, and had great dance moves he alone created. Not only did Ian with the band make British History, Ian made Music History! Thanks Ian for all your hard work and talent from someone who truly appreciate you from America
Oh, you were there?
What a front man.....icon
i personally feel if he didnt commit suicide he would been able to refine his dance moves and become a dancing icon because ive never seen any musician with such raw energy. Regardless, Ian Curtis is a still a living legend and i just finished listening to their two albums. Gold!
He wasn't a 'great singer'; his ability fell very short even of Rock norms. But when you consider that he died at only 23, I have no doubt that had he lived and been coached, his incredibly powerful voice would have become as 'great' as Iggy, Lou or Jim.
@@VictorOctavian coaching Ian ?
0:00 Metrópolis - Kraftwerk
0:15 She's Lost Control
4:18 Shadowplay
7:52 Leaders Of a Men
Meteopoliiis!! Classic
Whaaat???
This footage is unbelievable 👌
Legendary band! Amazing perfomance Ian dancing was incredible, absolutely class
You know, I discovered Unknown Pleasures when I was 13-14 (currently 33) by total happenstance, and its been one of my favorite records my whole life. But in reality Ian was gone 7 years before I was born, and 20-21 years before I discovered his music, yet I still to this tear up watching these old live shows, feeling like I was there, wish i was.
Same i discovered this band and album when i was 13 and now im 14 lol
@@moskovaqua1284 r/youngpeopleyoutube
@@adamgorsky8422 lol
Ian was the best, forever missed
Unknown Pleasures is the soundtrack of my life.
What id give to off been there see him live legend right there
All good guys. I won't be around for much longer. Bless Ian and the crew.
I was recently lamenting the lack of live footage of Joy Division besides the (albeit excellent) Something Else clips and Love Will Tear Us Apart promo video and a very limited selection of any other clips like this one. If anyone's got some then, for goodness sakes, put it out there ! Well done
NarminaHadjieva
And so all of us!
There was a Factory VHS "Here Are The Young Men"
Its here th-cam.com/video/eCEPorxFmjg/w-d-xo.html
Joy division are on a class of their own we are blessed to have had such a unique and special artist as Ian such a talent and special person just so tragic he is not with us R.I.P Ian you will always be remembered for the legend you are
like adrian borland of the sound
look at the bands energy it’s raw and beautiful. Listen to the crowds reaction they’re experiencing post-punk history while Joy Division is in their own realm bending the fabrics of reality.
Beast of a bass line 💪👍👍🤗😘
Hopefully, when I'm unfettered from a body in time & space, I can ghost around Joy Division. Knew when I dropped a phonograph needle on the 12" of An Ideal For Living that THIS is why God gave me a radio show (MMom/WRUW. September, 1978)
She's Lost Control es mi favorita canción de Joy División............. saludos de Perú...
OMG I could watch him for hours
the guitar work in shadowplay is magnifique...he plays it slightly differently in other versions but this best version
With the lights, the quality of the video and everything, Ian looks ghostly in that video, I got a really peculiar eerie vibe out of it
yeah i love this recording because of that
still beasting
Why did people start saying that around 2018? Nobody I bumped into in comments sections said it in 2014 - 2015.
@@101Volts maybe joy divisions got a bit more exposure during these later years especially thanks to social media
This ending was like the abruptly stop of a rolecoster ride
couldn't have said it better
awesome performance, Ian in particular!
I would give a lot to see the full, finished film by Malcolm Whitehead.
Llevaba rato buscando este toque hay diversos live guardados incluso el de anything else me parece genial, pero las canciones, la expresión de los artistas en especial la de Ian, se aprecian de una manera muy singular magnífico ! Muy místico y tenebroso, Ian parece de otro mundo ...
F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C-O !!!!! Thank you for this gem!
best version of she's lost control i've heard. The rhythm section in this song is best
Nahh gotta be the something else version and the transmission one where he points to his head n goes well I called out... and we can daaaance!
@@SleepingLionUK they both go hard
Great film thanks
Love the rawness of this band
thanks for posting!
ABSOLUTE EPIC!!!
This class amazing it was a pub in Altrincham only about 1hr away for me wish I witnessed this gig!
They're always gonna be number one for me and she's lost control got me listening to them ! A truly great band
I went to school in Bowden in the 80s mad int it?
I was at Welly Girls in 1979 but lived in Timperley and wouldn't have been at Bowdon Vale youth club but this is fasinating to find.
thanks, thanks, thanks...a masterpiece...
awesome, thank you!
amazing! thank you
Whenever I have seen a band live whose music is for the most part something completely new to me, it is has always been difficult to know exactly how to move to the music. And when I see a band live, moving to the music for me is a MUST! That being said, I have always relied on the members of the band to show me the way ... usually the singer who tends to be the most energetic of any member of the band. Case in point being Ian Curits. What is obvious here though is that if you follow my lead ... or Ian's, the room would be filled with a bunch of people dancing The Epileptic Fit ... if there were such a dance :-) In the '80s I would from time to time try to dance like Ian to see if anybody would notice ... or follow my lead. I don't think it worked even one time :-P I do know people noticed but I'm not sure they wanted to emulate my "moves". The thing is, once I felt I had Ian's style down, I felt I could dance to pretty much ANYTHING! But I was probably one of the few who actually knew what Ian looked like dancing. Because around 1983 or 1984 I purchased Here Are The Young Men not on VHS, but Betamax tape. I still have it and it has only been played once! Because I had it copied to VHS because I didn't own a Betamax player, but the only way I could find the concert footage was on Betamax. So I had some place transfer the tape from Betamax to VHS for me because I needed to see Joy Division LIVE! And now we have TH-cam and anybody can watch Here are the Young Men :-) Ha! One person dislikes this video. Go figure?
Somebody once described his dance style as "...doing the 'Dead Fly' standing up..." ;-)
Back in the day it was described as “ death disco” in underground fanzines and various music rags.That seems like a perfect moniker even to this day,no ?
@@thelooch9546 Agreed!
I love that term as well as the PiL song of the same name from Metal 1 / 2nd Edition. I have though never understood why that song is known as Swan Lake on LP but Death Disco when released as a single?
I had to look that up just now to satisfy my curiosity since we now have this thing known as The Internet. And it appears there is a slight difference that I was not aware of between single and LP version.
Thank you for your comment because I would not know this tidbit of info had you not commented :-)
@Mr Oneiroman To this day I have yet to give The Pop Group a listen. I have heard them and do know what they sound like, but I honestly cannot remember what it was that put them atop my Must Listen To list. Usually that is enough to make it happen but the vinyl is costly and the mp3s I downloaded were crap. And seriously that never happens to me. I download mp3s too often with wonderful results! Anyway, all that said, you just got me back on track as I am listening to Y via TH-cam and will download as well as look into a vinyl purchase because downloading mp3s only does not sit well with me. I know buying an album off eBay or discogs does nothing to put $ in the musicians pockets unless I were to purchase New mp3s, I just cannot and will not do that. If I’m going to spend $ then I need something physical to look at, hold, admire, show off, etc. and mp3s for how convenient they are, I cannot do any of that with them and therefore do not love them the same way. And I hardly think I am unique in that way. One last thing. Of the 3 albums you mentioned, JD, PiL, Pop Group, I know I am going to do what I said and that is get Y one way or another, but like now, every time I have given any of that album a listen I have to prepare myself. Because let’s face it, even if you love that album, a person has got to admit it is Not the most accessible of listens. It is ... uh, challenging Yes No? I wouldn’t think it would be the first thing a person would put on the turntable after an exceptionally grueling day at work where you want to come hone, pop open a cold one, and relax to ... The Pop Group? Do you relax to them? I suppose you could after the 4th or 5th cold one. Eh, I will continue on my quest and see for myself.
OK, enough of my ramblings. I have music to track down!
Thx again for lighting that fire underneath me :-)
Awesome excellent
Sem palavras!!!! Isso é histórico!!
superb
❤
One of the few Warszaw-era songs (Leaders of Men) caught on camera, albeit in partial form
Masterpiece!!
amazing! thanks so much for this.
Amazing!!! Thank you so much!
Magickal performance
First song, Metropolis - Kraftwerk
Always wondered what that song was
From The Man Machine, one of the best from Kraftwerk!
Wow never saw Leaders of Men from this show, very cool!
JUST WOW!??!!! thankQ u ?_xx
Amazing!! D.e.p. 🖤 Ian Curtis
3:21 This is what inspired JJ Abrahms to get into directing.
More like Jim jarmusch
@@eileenstubington8592 Do you get the joke? JJ Abrahms? Lens flare? .....I'll show myself out :(
@@ericrhodes5174 LOL
No still don't get it arnaud desplechin then
@@eileenstubington8592 jarmusch is a good director
Iam curtís performances única som deprê 💯💯💥💥
wow amazing
_I know a lot of people won't believe but I was there, it was not in Altrincham but in Bowden which is about a mile away, (next to Hale) funny thing was I wasn't a fan but went 'cos my girlfriend was. Not a bad gig, and afterwards she got her Tshirt signed by Ian & hooky._
Pour ceux qui ne l'ont pas vue, le film Joy Division est à voir ;)
That's tremendous.
Malcolm Whitehead was a fuckin genius
ian curtis is not a solo act, they are a group.
goddamn i feel like ive seen a ghost. oh to be at this concert
Best wishes from Azerbaijan ;)
First gig Ian Brown attended, apparently.
John Squire and Ian Brown both attended this gig.
00:00 She's Lost Control
04:17 Shadowplay
07:50 Leaders of Men
Just think in an alternate universe Joy Division lives on and bigger than U2.
🖤🖤🖤
Boom
Ian Curtis eterno 🖤
yes good
TOP, 🇮🇹❤️👍
Amazing, thanks! This is then the "lost" Whitehead movie or... ?
4:30min wow just wow
♡
8:15
This is an old SD scan, they should rescan it into 2K.
9:15 wtf happend
Any idea if the whole gig got filmed?
Is this the full film that was made?
yup
Went too soon,Ian Curtis, class
Point to me where raw genuine human music is like this today? Not a copycat band or over produced to the point where it looses the human element. JD was notorious for not for not being able to play their instruments well, but i think their stuff is brilliant. No cellphones, no youtube(lol I'm a hypocrite), no apps and gadgets. Just raw feeling with no extra fat.
I'm late to the party wow cool as fuck bro
Any Warsaw ?
I was 6 at the time and the gig was local. What was my excuse for not attending? 🤔
you missed out mate
Joy Division is nothing to sneeze at
Jep! :D
The late seventies.
2:19
0:00 Phil Collins
конец уничтожен...
What was the third song the band performed?
Leaders of Men from Unknown Pleasures
Ruben Silva leaders of men is such a great song
Leaders Of Men is not from Unknown Pleasures, it first appeared on the EP An Ideal For Living and is also on the Substance compilation.
Anyone else notice the similarities between leaders of men and Achilles last stand by led zeppelin
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Always prefered the live version of shes lost control, unknown pleasures is a good album but the sound of it ruins the songs, over produced
Funny how Ian dances around like Frankenstein while the band looks stoic. He’s also a terrible singer, but for some reason it just works. Style and originality can trump ability. There are some great technical singers out there that are a bore to listen to, just as there are technically terrible singers who I love to listen to. I’m a sucker for the older cure stuff and chuck mosely faith no more era. Let’s not forget how raspy Tom waits is or Dylan. Love joy division.
Am I the only one who thinks this sounds horribly bad?
bombakdik yes
Yes
bombakdik looks like it.
It isn't at all
Considering that this is Joy Division
And most of there gigs wasn't recorded on film like this
It is rather good
If your referring to the music itself
Its actually brilliant
Nothing like the modern shit being played on current day radio
Not too bad for 1979 or whatever
Excellent excellent
8:16
8:17