My question for each of the examples is “Why does it matter?” You talk about the significance of the differences but I think they all seem insignificant with regards to the message.
Explanied clearly: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
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I always examine the reactions of Muslims to these topics. I remember a meeting with a Turkish gentleman who is Muslim and he stressed that the Qur'an has always been the same, never changed, always perfect, the unaltered word of God. Now they don't say the same thing anymore. Now it is there are changes, but they do not matter. But they will never argue the same to ignorant Muslims. Then they claim really really really perfect preservation. Otherwise, the ordinary Muslim would know their Imans lied to them. For centuries.
When they admit changes but say they don't matter, what do they respond if told same goes for Bible variants (none change the facts of Jesus being divine, dying for our sins, resurrecting)? Force them to extend the same standard to the Bible...
No one lied to anybody, all muslims know about the existence of different qira'at. The Arabic language unlike Latin or Greek is very precise and has what is called diacritic. What these two are showing you, does not whatsoever prive the existence of two QUR'AN no matter how much they wish for that to be. The fact they are showing you both texts being the same, I do not expect you to understand Arabic, is in itself a proof that the QUR'AN is unchanged. What they have failed to really tell you, is that even with the difference in diacritic they are showing you, it is still same meaning within even the same reference. And that what makes the MIRACLE OF THE QUR'AN. Last but not least, You are free to believe or not to believe, no compulsion in religion. But pleae do not make up stories just to attempt to prove a point. ADIOS.
@@almouwahedbillah2083 Got 3 questions then: 1. If you claim Fadi is misrepresenting Arabic, will you accept an Arabic scholar opinion without a dog in the fight (neither Jewish, Christian, or Muslim)? 2. Are you saying that the claim of perfect preservation down to each dot is in fact false (we are seeing the written differences with our own eyes, and I searched for them online and found them, they are not made up by Fadi)? 3. If you say "well the differences/variants don't alter the teachings and beliefs of Islam", well neither do the variants of the Bible (none change the facts of Jesus being divine, dying crucified for our sins, resurrecting). Will you extend the same standard to the Bible?
No if u know Arabic or read the Quran you’ll know its not, in many many many verses in the Quran Allah speaks with plural and say we alot so its not something different and here its called “ the majesty we” for example when the queen says we and we did etc.. although she is one person so its for making the speaker great and not because the speaker are plural and its very common in the Quran and also at the same time a lot uses He and both of them refers for Allah and also using “ he “ is very common in the Quran.
That is what you wish for. Do not hold your breath too long. One these two show tell you half the truth it means they are lying. Al fadi says he was a devout Muslim, yet all the explanation he gave are erroneous. Argumentum ad ignorantiam
@@almouwahedbillah2083 HA! I think you are right about truth.....and what half of it means OR could mean......How about Ah Hominem ? and RED HERRING ! You make me laugh!
A Common Occurrence 22:8 (Al-Haj) Among the people, there is the one who argues about "GOD the Gracious" without knowledge, and without guidance, and without an enlightening scripture. 22:9 (Al-Haj) Arrogantly he strives to divert the people from the path of "GOD the King of Universe". He thus incurs humiliation in this life, and "We" commit him on the Day of Resurrection to the agony of burning. 22:10 (Al-Haj) This is what your hands have sent ahead for you. GOD is never unjust towards the people.
Wait a minute, just had this idea, when north african people say (افعل), they basically use the plural )نفعل( to express the singular. When expressing the plural they add the و (نفعلو). That's crazy to assume it influenced the reciting of quran but it could also indicate that change in quran was something you CAN do!
You are right in that sense. But it doesn't solve places where it changes whole meaning. For ex: I gave you the quran. Becomes, 'They, You' gave the quran. While allah himself is the one seeking
@@ankur7773 Muhammad is not a false prophet! That verse 69:40 = 19 has nothing to do with Muhammad! He lost his status for Idolatry! That verse is about a Messenger of the convent (3:81) Muhammad was famous for hiding some of the verses and he had no honor!
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@@abunajam6787 Thank you, my friend, Although I agree with most of what that site says, they gave a lot of misunderstandings about Muhammad, and the word "Allah", which may have been out of Arabs' zealots! First, our only "LORD", does not care any most respectable name you call "His Majesty" [17:110] Say, "Call Him GOD, or call Him Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names." [7:180] To GOD belongs the most beautiful names; call upon Him therewith, and disregard those who distort His names. They will be repaid for their sins. *** The other important matter is the messenger of the covenant. This messenger has nothing to do with Muhammad! He is also present among other prophets to make this oath to their "LORD" 3:81 (Al-Imran) And when "God the Wisest" took a "covenant" from the prophets, that indeed "I" have given you scripture and wisdom, thereafter, a messenger will come to you upholding what you have, you shall believe in him and support him. "His Majesty," said: « Do you agree and make a solemn covenant? » They said we agree. "His Majesty said: «Therefore be witnesses and I am witnessing this along with you. » Muhammad Pledges to Support God's Messenger of the Covenant* [33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge
There are minor human scribal errors in the early manuscripts, but they say 90-95% of the NT were preserved from the 1st century. If you are talking about English translations of the manuscripts, there are differences here and there, and every Christians know this. It is not easy translating languages to capture the exact perfect meaning sometimes, adding on to the fact that when different people translate a text it may never be worded exactly the same. This is not the same as the direct word of God, written and preserved by Allah himself having 1000s of variations in the original intended language.
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As for Sura 3:79 brought up in the video @3:40 or so, on the "Rabbaniyum" either "teaching" or "know"ing The Book, this makes me think of Rabbonim (Rabbis) studying (TaLMud in Hebrew, again somewhat similar to the Arabic TaaLliMuun) and then teaching the Book (Torah in Hebrew, Taurat in Arabic).
In context there is a HUGE difference in translation and explanation. Will God grant me "a" child or "many" children? To me there is a difference and allah has not protected his words.
Translations are worse than the actual texts in Quran so non Arab speakers don’t have any idea what’s. Meaning of the verses are , they are lost in translations by Muslim translators. So deceiving
Very good presentation and an excellent team work. Al-Fadi contributes greatly to follow the classical Arabic pronunciation. UK, USA and Australian research students and scholars are taking the lead. 'Categories' approach helps to see what is going on. It's by examination in minuter we can discover and probe the deep theological differences/aspects. This is the fist step. The term 'corruption' should be deprecated. A better term may be 'variant' and that's what Dr Dan Brubaker is using. It will sometime before we know why and how these variants happened. Robert Spencer's much awaited book may spread some light on the anthropological aspects of Arabia of the 7th century when Islam began. 2021 is a good year for learning. 2+0+2+1= 5 pillars of Islam examined. Come 2022, 2+0+2+2 = 6 God to be revealed in full ?
WHY does the Quran say "We........" so often when God/Allah is speaking? As a non-Muslim, It sounds like either the Quran is saying that God is a TRINITY or the "We" would be Muhammid and those with him. ( Muhammid- because must of us non-Muslims do not believe the Quran is Inspired scripture!!!!!!)
Because there are others to help our only "LORD", who created us. For instance, there are angles who look after us from some accidents, or those who take our souls, when we die, or come to us as the messengers, and ..... [13:11 (Al-Raad) Shifts (of angels) take turns, staying with each one of you-they are in front of you and behind you. They stay with you and guard you in accordance with GOD's commands. Thus, GOD does not change the condition of any people unless they themselves make the decision to change. If GOD wills any hardship for any people, no force can stop it. For they have none beside Him as Lord and Master.
They will have to do a good mash up of all the floating narratives to be distilled into one. It's going to take out to the next millennium before they have that worked out and in print.
@@gilbertjones9157 They are not seven versions. Remove the diactrics, they are the same The duactrics did not in any shape form mean change the meaning the substance or the message therein. That you can ask not me for you will assume I am biased. Ask Abd El-fadi homself, on one condition, that he reads the previous verses before all the seven versions he has shown you. He did not do that on purpose. I personally am willing to show that to you if he refuses, and I will do that live. PAZ.
Look at the two terms closely. Work of magic and its is clear who perform work of magic are called magician. or in other sense simply the word magician can be used instead. no change in the meaning of the sentence at all.
@@almouwahedbillah2083 I don't need to prove anything. I just want to be able to show the evidence to muslims that they have been lied to about the alleged perfect preservation of the Quran.
@Paco NewwaveDo you realize how silly that is? If there are 7 ahruf, then they all could not be listed in the same document unless it was annotated. Show me one Quran that annotates ahrufs. No one can show the Uthman Quran, much less ahruf #1 and ahruf #2, etc. No one knows what the qiraat really are. There are multiple opinions out there. What it really looks like is a way to explain the variants while still pretending the Quran has never changed. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
@Paco Newwave No one know what ahruf and qiraat are. There are many theories but to scholars it looks like just an way to excuse the variants while pretending the quran has not changed. Perhaps you should watch the holes in the narrative interview again.
Which Quran is accurate? Very simple: whichever actually confirms the Bible, instead of contradict it. I am yet to find such Quran, anyone can help me out here? Anyone?
One and only one QUR'AN. These two are not telling you that all muslims know that there different reading due to the lack of diacritic in the original texts. This by no mean modify the meaning or the authenticity of the QUR'AN, that is a fact.
@@almouwahedbillah2083 Then be kind enough to answer these 3 questions if you may: 1. If you claim Fadi is misrepresenting Arabic, will you accept an Arabic scholar opinion without a dog in the fight (neither Jewish, Christian, or Muslim)? 2. Are you saying that the claim of perfect preservation down to each dot is in fact false (we are seeing the written differences with our own eyes, and I searchedfor them online and found them, they are not made up by Fadi)? 3. If you say "well the differences/variants don't alter the teachings and beliefs of Islam" (which I would be OK with, they seem rather inconsequential), well neither do the variants of the Bible (none change the facts of Jesus being divine, dying crucified for our sins, resurrecting). Will you extend the same standard to the Bible? I sure am extending it to both books, will you?
@@el_killorcure For so far I understood it. The books of the NT written in Greek are without any variants in the same Greek language of that segment of the Bible. The books of the OT in Hebrew and as translated (Septuagint) into Greek and subsequently Latin. The Scripture(s) we know in the languages mentioned above knows no variant. Isn't it? Bible translations in English language and other languages are where variants are present. But these are just what they are: translation variants, yet no deviation in meaning. What was written in the exemplar, the manuscript, never had and does not have the same problem people like Dr. Jay Smith and Al Fadi are now shining a textually critical light on regarding the Quran's one Arabic language showing variants. Pls tell me if they have variants the Sanaiticus, Vaticanus and the other goat-skin exemplar as brought forward from papyri in safeguard.
Though it may not have changed much of the meaning and practices, the claim that it is unchanged has to be false. Now the muslims may start to change the narrative and say what they meant was the Quran is unchanged in meaning. The defense of the 7 dialects cannot be used as dialects is basically different ways of saying the same thing but here we see differences in number of people, action words, adjectives and so on.
@Temporary Account4 How about if I give you evidence that I am your non-Arab Messenger?! this should prove that you don't have to be Arab to know the Quran. 16:102 (Al-Nahl) Say, "The Holy Spirit has brought it down from your Lord, truthfully, to assure those who believe and to provide a beacon and good news for the submitters." 16:103 (Al-Nahl) We are fully aware that they say, "A human being is teaching him!" The tongue of the source they hint at is non-Arabic, and this is a perfect Arabic tongue.
What do you think scholars were doing since the 1700s? Sitting on their asses? The New Testament is probably the leading document when it comes to textual criticism. No other religious document comes closer to academic study than the New Testament. Which is why we are confident in its narrative historical and textually.
Arabic is a very rich and precise language. Unlike Latin or Greek it did not require diacritic to be understood by the arabs back then. This is what these two failed to explain to those who are viewing this so called informative video.
@Bj D it seems to me from your last paragraph, that the whys you are writing are not to fill your ignorance in the subject but rather to amplify your zealotness. Nevertheless, here is the answer to your whys. People in Arabia and at the time of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)were very fluent in their own language which is Arabic.Meaning that the written language and the spoken language were the same. Unlike today, most of the spoken Arabic in the Arab world is what you call slang Arabic. The only times you will hear the actual written Arabic spoken in all the Arab countries is when the QUR'AN or the hadith(meaning the saying of the prophet) are recited. The arabs back then had the ability to distinguish with no errors whatsoever what every word was, not only that had the ability to distinguish verbs from subject from object passive dative so on and so forth simply from the position of the word in the sentence. That aside, one of verses of the QUR'AN talks about that the QUR'AN is revealed to them in their language so they understand it. And that was one of the miracles of the BOOK. You may not agree, that is your choice, no compulsion intended. Imagine someone trying to deliver a message to you in the language of the Arapahos, you will not even attempt to read. So you see why the diactrics are needed today. What kept the Arabic language alive, so that you may know, not the arabs, but the QUR'AN itself. I will leave you with this to ponder. ˹O believers!˺ Do not insult what they invoke besides Allah or they will insult Allah spitefully out of ignorance. This is how We have made each people’s deeds appealing to them. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them of what they used to do. PAZ.
@Bj D It is Qureshi and not quareshi. I guess you are not familiar with the erra of ignorance(jahiliyyah). For you to say that Mohammad(peace be upon him) Spoke an obscure dialect shows your ignorance related to Arab history and the prophet lineage. And I surely do not make up history nor change facts like others to suite their beliefs. God is one, Muhammad is his prophet. Our omnipotent God can not be stripped naked and put to the cross and ask another God to help him. The trinity you believe in is a copy cat of the Egyptian trinity represented by Osiris,Horus and Isis. www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity Read the Egyptian part and reread it. Does is sound like something you know. By the Augustine de Hippo formulated the original sin doctrine. Remember this wise proverb, Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. PAZ.
@Bj D From which verses are you referering to the muddy pool and the sun journey? Please reference the Arabic text. The numbers of the surats would suffice. Ask and you shall learn.
Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? In all major scriptures only Bible is not provided in original text ? All major religious groups like Hindus, Buddhists Muslims etc provide original text of their religious scriptures (Hindus provide Vedas in Sanskrit, Budhists provide Dhammapad in Pali, Muslims provide Quran in Arabic) But only Christian religious leaders don’t provide Bible in original text ?
There is nothing keeping you from reading the various books of the Bible in Hebrew or Greek, either by consulting printed versions or using free versions online. If you can't get to a site like Bible hub, maybe your country or ISP is blocking it.
Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? No one claims we have the originals due to papyrus not lasting. There is no SUCH THING as Gospel of Jesus, that is more Muslim BS.
When Hatun and J Smith first brought up this issue of quranic version, my faith to Islam was shaking. But when I watch this video and saw the differences, my faith to Islam strengthened because this consistent with our scholar opinion that the differences are small and wont change our practise. Continue making this kind of video to strengthened all Muslim faith. You have shown that Quran is indeed preserved within the 7 ahruf and 10 Qiraat.
@GH Who said that? Majority islamic scholar never claim that quran is preserved word to word. If you study the meaning of 7 Ahruf and 10 Qiraat, you will never make such claim. Christian is cherry picking to discredit Quran because their Trinity concept has cripple down and many have left christian and join Islam.
ohh it preserve dot by dot ooo..which kids didn't know mushaf(suhuf kept by prophet muhamad in his house)and have been verified by prophet himself it been call suhuf Abu baker bcs after prophet pass away he kept it as first caliphate named after him bcs of that..then after that have been used to write mashaf al imam these copied have been used by third caliphate uthman bin affan for it doesn't have dots or whatever all four caliphate they memorise al Quran including Aisha..she being teach by prophet directly if goat eat entire copied of al Quran you think she care?its normal even torah also like this..th-cam.com/video/nrlTo8WS9p8/w-d-xo.html the different torah lost and destroy by nebucadnezar they doesn't have original copied anymore..its rare to find they memorise torah..how to transmit if varies word impossible bcs meaning also changed..brain cannot accept that..how to corrupt memorise?al Quran have been preserve in both way writing and memorising..never see muslim in Mecca do pilgrimage fight bcs different al Quran..most christian think Jesus receive revelation fly to sky or book send to earth??if Gabriel met these type of people don't think they can survive..Adam till the last prophet he met and guide them..you say what??
May the good lord almighty God our jesus christ bless you guys for giving us what is really useful for our teachings when we confront our brothers muslims
you should ask children of isreal that verse talking about them..you must didn't read entire verse right?you want want me attach that verse so you can digest it?if I attach you will get arabic class for free..this chances you shouldn't waste..effect of reading translation..thats normal among christian...remember thats Semitic language..hebrew,arabic..aramic mother of Semitic language..if didn't know what is that better shut up and go learn.th-cam.com/video/nrlTo8WS9p8/w-d-xo.html have you wonder why rabbi always say christian miss interpreted revelation..then you guys say rabbi crazy, lost what ever..eh..they say the right thing..faced that issue first than talk.
7.160 that verse talk about children of isreal talking about event happen(involve in that event gabriel,moses,aaron,and Moses follower-the time frame 5 thousand year different-Royal we)Moses or angel they cannot and will not forgive sin bcs angel and prophet they sinless its talking about duty done by his slave(angel prophet,bnei isreal) how unforgettable that moment so the reader can focus and take lesson from that event ..their GOD didn't have son, mother etc or like creation you know echad or in arabic ahad its doesn't mean one but instead uniquely one impossible can increase or decrease in number or attribute not like creation..they not among polytheist..thats why children of isreal can pray in mosque its forbidden to pray or enter church..bcs polytheist..thats the problem if used translation..thats word sooooo clear it using nahnu..do you know what is that?bible used according to...but from people guess..not directly from GOD inform like al Quran..impossible can change or manipulate that word..it will change the entire context..
Wonderful work ....Could you also teach Muslims that The Quran has Hebrew Prophets and that Sura 2 explicitly declares Israel as God's chosen nation ?? Thank you and God bless
You misunderstand Islam... Just as some Jews rejected Jesus, you all reject Muhammed. (Peace be upon them all) Muslim believe in ALL PROPHETS and acknowledge the Truth in previous revelations. Study from an expert in Islam about Islam not from Al Fadi who seeks to lead you astray.
@@H18717 I do not reject Mohamed (PBUH) because he was visited by Angel Gabriel I know Mohamed,Moses and Jesus were sinners who had contact with God in diverse ways Their writings are subject to scrutiny and questioning because they are humans and such questioning does not affect of God ...Al Fadi just needs to sit down with us and we have a structured discussion ending in resolutions
@@qdshsciencetheologyphil8536 If you understand any of the Prophets (peace be upon them all) and the meaning of Revelations (not writings), you would not say that their writings are subject to scrutiny. God reveals His message to the Prophets, who then deliver it to the people to warn them against all that is evil and to enjoin all that is good so that the people may please God and enter the Eternal Paradise. God tests every generation as He Wills. The last prophet is Muhammad (PBUH) and the last Revelation that confirms the TRUTH in all prior revelations and guides mankind to all that is good is the Quran. The Quran is the Word of the Creator of the Entire Universe. Al Fadi might think by dressing like an Arab, he can deceive people, but primarily, he decieves himself first. Everyone can go around wasting their precious time in the Short temporal world arguing, disputing or refuting the Truth....Ultimately we will all die whether its today or tomorrow and we will either be pleased that we believed and did good deeds or be in despair or regret that we disbelieved and disobeyed God's message. Peace!
@@farookdinaully8029 Oh my friend my khalil ..Read the Hadiths Mohamed pbuh prayed to God to have mercy on him So all the prophets are sons of Adam with Jesus having a special birth but nonetheless still called himself a sin er or not a good person Read the Quran Mohamed pbuh says God is all merciful all forgiving ...whose sins was Allah forgiving ?? Mohamed sins ...he was a Son of Adam Same to Moses and Jesus whom the latter said forgive us our sins in the Lord's prayer
@@valerossi823 Brother, instead of making wild hollow statement(s), please detail the "hole" in Islamic narrative. Thank you. nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5063
It’s funny because at 6:45 “word” in Arabic it should be “كلمة” with a closed "t" that looks like “h with dots”, not like “كلمت” with an open “t" that spelling is wrong.
Most of these examples that you are giving, including switching they/you and he/we ponouns (2:271, 3:83), singluar vs plural (6:115, 19:77), active vs passive verb ( 7:161, 9:66, 15:8 ), are just examples of iltifāt, which is a known literary feature of the Quran. If you can find iltifāt even within a single version of the Quran, I am not sure how you think this it is relevant or impactful to find iltifāt between different versions of the Quran. According to this article >> www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/text/grammar/iltifaat , iltifāt can encompass: - Change in person, between 1st, 2nd and 3rd person, which is the most common and is usually divided into six kinds. - Change in number, between singular, dual and plural. - Change in addressee. - Change in the tense of the verb. - Change in case marker. - Using noun in place of pronoun. This article cites hundreds of examples of iltifāt just within the standard (Hafs) Quran. You can see an example of changing between you/they for the addressee and Allah referred to both he and we in verses 15:95-99 You can see a change from singular (he) to plural (they) when referring to mankind in 100:6-11 You can find changes in active vs passive voice of verbs in the Quran as well: 16:8 "And [He created] the horses, mules and donkeys for you to ride " vs 88:17 "do they not look at the camels - how they are created". There is no finding with these examples. How many of the 93000 differences you mentioned are just iltifāt and how many of them are actually relevant and change the meaning?
You are not understanding their point. What you are claiming is, sometimes allah speaks using I or We etc. And of course this happens. That's not what they are pointing. Say, in Ch1 verse 1, you have this sentence: I gave you the book of revealation. Here, in other variant qurans, the verse is changed with I, He, They So the same sentence will be read " You/They gave the book of revelation" Do you see the changing of meaning here. So, these kinds of mistakes were made, what else have been changed? Revised?
That which prohibits drinking alcohol and illegal sexual intercourse as both are dirty attitudes in the light of the Holy Quran and the Holy Bible too.
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@Majo Flinterman No, brother, it does not mean "allah keeps seven etnernal tablets of the quran somewhere up in the sky." Only that the seven different modes of recitation of the Qur'an are intrinsic in the Quraysh dialect. However, since man can store Himalayan amount of data on the head of a pin and store many files of hundreds of gigabytes on a computer chip, then given the sophistication of Allah's system, surely Allah can "keep(s) seven etnernal tablets of the quran somewhere up in the sky." nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862
Its very wrong interpretation of the words ..these two scripts of Quran are from different dialect with different accent of words pronunciations. Intermingling them in wrong way. sometime for respect of greatness the plural words are used for single person, and here is the same case regarding HE and WE ..both interpret the Allah. But from different aspect of Dialect and their aesthetic sense.
There are many linguistic differences, but the narrative is false. Islam can be equated to a tire. It only works if you inflate it. Peace be upon Grinch!
---- > I would say none of them are accurate. Islamic writings correspond to some historical events but , most likely, the character of Muhammad was invented.
18:102 (Al-Kahf) Do those who disbelieve think that they can get away with setting up My servants (Jesus), as gods beside Me? We have prepared for the disbelievers' Hell as an eternal abode.
The argument that meaning is not affected is a Christian one, Muslims adopted it once their claim that the Qur'an is the same letter for letter was disproven it seems
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!....
This is stupidity. I'm not a Briton/Englishman. If I start mocking "God", because in my tribe we use "Mungu", thinking that they are not one and the same. Then, an Englishman will think I am ignorant or stupid. This is what I am thinking about you now! For your information, the name "Allah" is not Muslim. Allah is not a muslim God! The word"Allah", is used by both arab atheists and Arab Christians. The Arabic Bible uses the word "Allah" for God. They have no other name to use! Caution. Now that you know, stop insulting the God of Arabic speaking Christians.
Dude the God of the Christians and Jews, and the god of Muslims are 2 different characters. When they say Allah, they are referring to Islamic God, and Arab Christians won't be offended.
Jesus never died. Jesus is not God. Christmas and Easter are man made celebrations that neither Jesus nor his disciples celebrated. Jesus is a Prophet of God sent to preach the worship of One God. He enjoined good and forbade evil. The miracles were a sign of his Prophethood. O mankind, repent and worship One God! Do not be like the idol worshippers who worship others along or instead of God.
THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
I enjoy these series and learn a lot from them
My question for each of the examples is “Why does it matter?” You talk about the significance of the differences but I think they all seem insignificant with regards to the message.
When the details are being discussed, a huge change is needed.
Halleluijah Amen. Love from Bangladesh.
Great Job brothers 🤠
Always love these types of Shows. Gives me a good reason to go to the websites and get screenshots and links :)
Explanied clearly: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Such a good Work u gentlemen r doing🙏🙏🙏🙏
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God bless you and your team brother,
Great job❤
Salute from Afghanistan 🇦🇫
Praise Lord Jesus Christ Amen
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Wonderful! I really enjoy this videos.
Keep exposing the cult bro
I always examine the reactions of Muslims to these topics. I remember a meeting with a Turkish gentleman who is Muslim and he stressed that the Qur'an has always been the same, never changed, always perfect, the unaltered word of God. Now they don't say the same thing anymore. Now it is there are changes, but they do not matter. But they will never argue the same to ignorant Muslims. Then they claim really really really perfect preservation. Otherwise, the ordinary Muslim would know their Imans lied to them. For centuries.
When they admit changes but say they don't matter, what do they respond if told same goes for Bible variants (none change the facts of Jesus being divine, dying for our sins, resurrecting)?
Force them to extend the same standard to the Bible...
No one lied to anybody, all muslims know about the existence of different qira'at. The Arabic language unlike Latin or Greek is very precise and has what is called diacritic.
What these two are showing you, does not whatsoever prive the existence of two QUR'AN no matter how much they wish for that to be.
The fact they are showing you both texts being the same, I do not expect you to understand Arabic, is in itself a proof that the QUR'AN is unchanged.
What they have failed to really tell you, is that even with the difference in diacritic they are showing you, it is still same meaning within even the same reference.
And that what makes the MIRACLE OF THE QUR'AN.
Last but not least,
You are free to believe or not to believe, no compulsion in religion.
But pleae do not make up stories just to attempt to prove a point.
ADIOS.
@@el_killorcure
No changes, these two are grasping to straws.
Argumentum ad captandum et ad ignorantiam.
@@almouwahedbillah2083 Got 3 questions then:
1. If you claim Fadi is misrepresenting Arabic, will you accept an Arabic scholar opinion without a dog in the fight (neither Jewish, Christian, or Muslim)?
2. Are you saying that the claim of perfect preservation down to each dot is in fact false (we are seeing the written differences with our own eyes, and I searched for them online and found them, they are not made up by Fadi)?
3. If you say "well the differences/variants don't alter the teachings and beliefs of Islam", well neither do the variants of the Bible (none change the facts of Jesus being divine, dying crucified for our sins, resurrecting). Will you extend the same standard to the Bible?
@@almouwahedbillah2083 so is the Qur'an identical word for word or not? As so many Muslims say. Please just answer with no deflection
The difference in meaning in Sura 2:271 is clear.
No if u know Arabic or read the Quran you’ll know its not, in many many many verses in the Quran Allah speaks with plural and say we alot so its not something different and here its called “ the majesty we” for example when the queen says we and we did etc.. although she is one person so its for making the speaker great and not because the speaker are plural and its very common in the Quran and also at the same time a lot uses He and both of them refers for Allah and also using “ he “ is very common in the Quran.
In a P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y preserved text - HOW many differences will nulify this claim ?
1. ONE
2. TWO
3. THREE
4. 5,000
----Just one will do!
That is what you wish for.
Do not hold your breath too long.
One these two show tell you half the truth it means they are lying.
Al fadi says he was a devout Muslim, yet all the explanation he gave are erroneous.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam
@@almouwahedbillah2083 HA! I think you are right about truth.....and what half of it means OR could mean......How about Ah Hominem ? and RED HERRING ! You make me laugh!
Can you please have a few more shows to expose more variants.
Thx
A Common Occurrence
22:8 (Al-Haj)
Among the people, there is the one who argues about "GOD the Gracious" without knowledge, and without guidance, and without an enlightening scripture.
22:9 (Al-Haj)
Arrogantly he strives to divert the people from the path of "GOD the King of Universe". He thus incurs humiliation in this life, and "We" commit him on the Day of Resurrection to the agony of burning.
22:10 (Al-Haj)
This is what your hands have sent ahead for you. GOD is never unjust towards the people.
Amen 🙏
You made me love Islam even more.
Poor you
Confirmation bias is untouchable.
Damn, even the wikipedia entry on warsh agrees with Fadi! Can't paste the link, but go check it out...
KillOrCure The Qur'an is perfectly preserved in SEVEN MODES nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862. Christianity dupes people nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5090
@@abunajam6787 Aha, right!
Too late to be taken seriously.
Which of these 7 versions is the lower text of the Sanaa manuscript, mind you?
Wait a minute, just had this idea, when north african people say (افعل), they basically use the plural )نفعل( to express the singular. When expressing the plural they add the و (نفعلو).
That's crazy to assume it influenced the reciting of quran but it could also indicate that change in quran was something you CAN do!
You are right in that sense. But it doesn't solve places where it changes whole meaning. For ex:
I gave you the quran.
Becomes, 'They, You' gave the quran.
While allah himself is the one seeking
May the light of Jesus guide your path, may his love grace your heart and may his sacrifice strengthen your soul with peace and hope.
Jesus even couldn't help himself or save his so-called disciples!
Ask your "God the Only" forgives you for your polytheism!
MOHAMMAD FALSE PROPHET QURAN 69:49 QURAN NEVER WORD OF GOD
👉 👉QURAN 😈📖🚮
@@ankur7773
Muhammad is not a false prophet! That verse 69:40 = 19 has nothing to do with Muhammad! He lost his status for Idolatry! That verse is about a Messenger of the convent (3:81)
Muhammad was famous for hiding some of the verses and he had no honor!
@@kouroshmemari2450 The Qur'an is perfectly preserved in SEVEN MODES nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862. Christianity dupes people nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5090
@@abunajam6787 Thank you, my friend, Although I agree with most of what that site says, they gave a lot of misunderstandings about Muhammad, and the word "Allah", which may have been out of Arabs' zealots!
First, our only "LORD", does not care any most respectable name you call "His Majesty"
[17:110] Say, "Call Him GOD, or call Him Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names."
[7:180] To GOD belongs the most beautiful names; call upon Him therewith, and disregard those who distort His names. They will be repaid for their sins.
***
The other important matter is the messenger of the covenant.
This messenger has nothing to do with Muhammad! He is also present among other prophets to make this oath to their "LORD"
3:81 (Al-Imran)
And when "God the Wisest" took a "covenant" from the prophets, that indeed "I" have given you scripture and wisdom, thereafter, a messenger will come to you upholding what you have, you shall believe in him and support him. "His Majesty," said: « Do you agree and make a solemn covenant? » They said we agree. "His Majesty said: «Therefore be witnesses and I am witnessing this along with you. »
Muhammad Pledges to Support God's Messenger of the Covenant*
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge
SIR, MAY I GET THE LINK??? THANKS BEFORE. JBU AND YOUR MINISTRY.
I just want to know is Christianity the correct way?what about different types of bibles I mean testaments which the last one was written in 90's
There are minor human scribal errors in the early manuscripts, but they say 90-95% of the NT were preserved from the 1st century.
If you are talking about English translations of the manuscripts, there are differences here and there, and every Christians know this. It is not easy translating languages to capture the exact perfect meaning sometimes, adding on to the fact that when different people translate a text it may never be worded exactly the same. This is not the same as the direct word of God, written and preserved by Allah himself having 1000s of variations in the original intended language.
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ. 🇫🇴🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
The final words starting 18:20 till the end, were a slap in the face for any closed-eye. Kudos to Al-Fadi & Dr. Jay !
Güçlü Melek The Qur'an is perfectly preserved in SEVEN MODES nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862. Christianity dupes people nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5090
As for Sura 3:79 brought up in the video @3:40 or so, on the "Rabbaniyum" either "teaching" or "know"ing The Book, this makes me think of Rabbonim (Rabbis) studying (TaLMud in Hebrew, again somewhat similar to the Arabic TaaLliMuun) and then teaching the Book (Torah in Hebrew, Taurat in Arabic).
Two Christians doing textual study on the Quaran... Where are the Muslim scholars? They should be doing this!
They already have and concluded they like their power more than the truth.
@@ligarsystm or the prefer their head attached to shoulders.
Great show, helping Muslims out of their ignorance and out of this murderous cult. To keep believing is to love evil and all its disgusting works.
In context there is a HUGE difference in translation and explanation. Will God grant me "a" child or "many" children? To me there is a difference and allah has not protected his words.
Translations are worse than the actual texts in Quran so non Arab speakers don’t have any idea what’s. Meaning of the verses are , they are lost in translations by Muslim translators. So deceiving
@@kevinexmuslim1396 But what if a translator is arabic? Just as Al Fadi is, would he be wrong, considering he is studying it for his Phd?
Very good presentation and an excellent team work. Al-Fadi contributes greatly to follow the classical Arabic pronunciation. UK, USA and Australian research students and scholars are taking the lead. 'Categories' approach helps to see what is going on. It's by examination in minuter we can discover and probe the deep theological differences/aspects. This is the fist step. The term 'corruption' should be deprecated. A better term may be 'variant' and that's what Dr Dan Brubaker is using. It will sometime before we know why and how these variants happened. Robert Spencer's much awaited book may spread some light on the anthropological aspects of Arabia of the 7th century when Islam began. 2021 is a good year for learning. 2+0+2+1= 5 pillars of Islam examined. Come 2022, 2+0+2+2 = 6 God to be revealed in full ?
Al Fadi is a very smart guy
WHY does the Quran say "We........" so often when God/Allah is speaking?
As a non-Muslim, It sounds like either the Quran is saying that God is a TRINITY or the "We" would be Muhammid and those with him. ( Muhammid- because must of us non-Muslims do not believe the Quran is Inspired scripture!!!!!!)
Because there are others to help our only "LORD", who created us. For instance, there are angles who look after us from some accidents, or those who take our souls, when we die, or come to us as the messengers, and .....
[13:11 (Al-Raad)
Shifts (of angels) take turns, staying with each one of you-they are in front of you and behind you. They stay with you and guard you in accordance with GOD's commands. Thus, GOD does not change the condition of any people unless they themselves make the decision to change. If GOD wills any hardship for any people, no force can stop it. For they have none beside Him as Lord and Master.
Looks life Hafs has been fine tuned and corrected to suit the whole context and passage.
They will have to do a good mash up of all the floating narratives to be distilled into one. It's going to take out to the next millennium before they have that worked out and in print.
Not true.
Arabic back then did not have diacritic, people read and understood the texts.
This is what these two failed to tell you.
@@almouwahedbillah2083 Then why the 7 versions given to the messenger, if they understood the text? Think that through.
@@gilbertjones9157
They are not seven versions.
Remove the diactrics, they are the same
The duactrics did not in any shape form mean change the meaning the substance or the message therein.
That you can ask not me for you will assume I am biased.
Ask Abd El-fadi homself, on one condition, that he reads the previous verses before all the seven versions he has shown you. He did not do that on purpose.
I personally am willing to show that to you if he refuses, and I will do that live.
PAZ.
I do not blame you, when you come back and you have learned Arabic, it is another story.
Judging without knowledge "ain't" smart.
Look at the two terms closely. Work of magic and its is clear who perform work of magic are called magician. or in other sense simply the word magician can be used instead. no change in the meaning of the sentence at all.
Shahid Ali The Qur'an is perfectly preserved in SEVEN MODES nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862. Christianity dupes people nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5090
Please publish the Arabic text in a format we can copy. I would find that very useful when commenting online with Muslims.
What do you need to prove?
@@almouwahedbillah2083 I don't need to prove anything. I just want to be able to show the evidence to muslims that they have been lied to about the alleged perfect preservation of the Quran.
@Paco Newwave Then show me ahruf #1 and ahruf #2, etc. You can't. It has been lost. You have no idea if the variants are from allah or not.
@Paco NewwaveDo you realize how silly that is? If there are 7 ahruf, then they all could not be listed in the same document unless it was annotated. Show me one Quran that annotates ahrufs. No one can show the Uthman Quran, much less ahruf #1 and ahruf #2, etc. No one knows what the qiraat really are. There are multiple opinions out there. What it really looks like is a way to explain the variants while still pretending the Quran has never changed. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
@Paco Newwave No one know what ahruf and qiraat are. There are many theories but to scholars it looks like just an way to excuse the variants while pretending the quran has not changed. Perhaps you should watch the holes in the narrative interview again.
Which Quran is accurate?
Very simple: whichever actually confirms the Bible, instead of contradict it.
I am yet to find such Quran, anyone can help me out here?
Anyone?
One and only one QUR'AN.
These two are not telling you that all muslims know that there different reading due to the lack of diacritic in the original texts.
This by no mean modify the meaning or the authenticity of the QUR'AN, that is a fact.
@@almouwahedbillah2083 Then be kind enough to answer these 3 questions if you may:
1. If you claim Fadi is misrepresenting Arabic, will you accept an Arabic scholar opinion without a dog in the fight (neither Jewish, Christian, or Muslim)?
2. Are you saying that the claim of perfect preservation down to each dot is in fact false (we are seeing the written differences with our own eyes, and I searchedfor them online and found them, they are not made up by Fadi)?
3. If you say "well the differences/variants don't alter the teachings and beliefs of Islam" (which I would be OK with, they seem rather inconsequential), well neither do the variants of the Bible (none change the facts of Jesus being divine, dying crucified for our sins, resurrecting). Will you extend the same standard to the Bible? I sure am extending it to both books, will you?
@@almouwahedbillah2083 so stop claiming ALL qurans are the same.
@@el_killorcure For so far I understood it. The books of the NT written in Greek are without any variants in the same Greek language of that segment of the Bible. The books of the OT in Hebrew and as translated (Septuagint) into Greek and subsequently Latin. The Scripture(s) we know in the languages mentioned above knows no variant. Isn't it?
Bible translations in English language and other languages are where variants are present. But these are just what they are: translation variants, yet no deviation in meaning.
What was written in the exemplar, the manuscript, never had and does not have the same problem people like Dr. Jay Smith and Al Fadi are now shining a textually critical light on regarding the Quran's one Arabic language showing variants.
Pls tell me if they have variants the Sanaiticus, Vaticanus and the other goat-skin exemplar as brought forward from papyri in safeguard.
@@c.aurellaustina6849
The Bible according to,according to according to according to. Why according to?
Though it may not have changed much of the meaning and practices, the claim that it is unchanged has to be false. Now the muslims may start to change the narrative and say what they meant was the Quran is unchanged in meaning. The defense of the 7 dialects cannot be used as dialects is basically different ways of saying the same thing but here we see differences in number of people, action words, adjectives and so on.
Which of the Qurans will witness for Muslims in front of Allah in janna? And Which of the Qurans is on the tablet of Allah in janna?
How about checking the New Testament. Do you know which verse is true?!
@Temporary Account4
How about if I give you evidence that I am your non-Arab Messenger?! this should prove that you don't have to be Arab to know the Quran.
16:102 (Al-Nahl)
Say, "The Holy Spirit has brought it down from your Lord, truthfully, to assure those who believe and to provide a beacon and good news for the submitters."
16:103 (Al-Nahl)
We are fully aware that they say, "A human being is teaching him!" The tongue of the source they hint at is non-Arabic, and this is a perfect Arabic tongue.
What do you think scholars were doing since the 1700s? Sitting on their asses? The New Testament is probably the leading document when it comes to textual criticism.
No other religious document comes closer to academic study than the New Testament. Which is why we are confident in its narrative historical and textually.
How can one even read a Skelton text?
Arabic is a very rich and precise language. Unlike Latin or Greek it did not require diacritic to be understood by the arabs back then.
This is what these two failed to explain to those who are viewing this so called informative video.
@Bj D
Yes sometimes you can do it.
Arabic is a very precise language.
@Bj D it seems to me from your last paragraph, that the whys you are writing are not to fill your ignorance in the subject but rather to amplify your zealotness.
Nevertheless, here is the answer to your whys.
People in Arabia and at the time of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)were very fluent in their own language which is Arabic.Meaning that the written language and the spoken language were the same.
Unlike today, most of the spoken Arabic in the Arab world is what you call slang Arabic. The only times you will hear the actual written Arabic spoken in all the Arab countries is when the QUR'AN or the hadith(meaning the saying of the prophet) are recited.
The arabs back then had the ability to distinguish with no errors whatsoever what every word was, not only that had the ability to distinguish verbs from subject from object passive dative so on and so forth simply from the position of the word in the sentence.
That aside, one of verses of the QUR'AN talks about that the QUR'AN is revealed to them in their language so they understand it.
And that was one of the miracles of the BOOK. You may not agree, that is your choice, no compulsion intended.
Imagine someone trying to deliver a message to you in the language of the Arapahos, you will not even attempt to read.
So you see why the diactrics are needed today. What kept the Arabic language alive, so that you may know, not the arabs, but the QUR'AN itself.
I will leave you with this to ponder.
˹O believers!˺ Do not insult what they invoke besides Allah or they will insult Allah spitefully out of ignorance. This is how We have made each people’s deeds appealing to them. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them of what they used to do.
PAZ.
@Bj D
It is Qureshi and not quareshi.
I guess you are not familiar with the erra of ignorance(jahiliyyah). For you to say that Mohammad(peace be upon him)
Spoke an obscure dialect shows your ignorance related to Arab history and the prophet lineage.
And I surely do not make up history nor change facts like others to suite their beliefs.
God is one, Muhammad is his prophet.
Our omnipotent God can not be stripped naked and put to the cross and ask another God to help him.
The trinity you believe in is a copy cat of the Egyptian trinity represented by Osiris,Horus and Isis.
www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity
Read the Egyptian part and reread it.
Does is sound like something you know.
By the Augustine de Hippo formulated the original sin doctrine.
Remember this wise proverb,
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
PAZ.
@Bj D
From which verses are you referering to the muddy pool and the sun journey?
Please reference the Arabic text. The numbers of the surats would suffice.
Ask and you shall learn.
Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? In all major scriptures only Bible is not provided in original text ?
All major religious groups like Hindus, Buddhists Muslims etc provide original text of their religious scriptures (Hindus provide Vedas in Sanskrit, Budhists provide Dhammapad in Pali, Muslims provide Quran in Arabic)
But only Christian religious leaders don’t provide Bible in original text ?
There is nothing keeping you from reading the various books of the Bible in Hebrew or Greek, either by consulting printed versions or using free versions online.
If you can't get to a site like Bible hub, maybe your country or ISP is blocking it.
Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? No one claims we have the originals due to papyrus not lasting. There is no SUCH THING as Gospel of Jesus, that is more Muslim BS.
@Majo Flinterman Islam got it wrong as per quran it's a book. Good News to Christians is the first 4 books in NT.
My guess is that Jesus had the only true copy of the book allah revealed to him under his arm when allah took him safe ... Good one. 😂🤣😂
bibles from centuries before Islam are the same as those today.
When Hatun and J Smith first brought up this issue of quranic version, my faith to Islam was shaking. But when I watch this video and saw the differences, my faith to Islam strengthened because this consistent with our scholar opinion that the differences are small and wont change our practise. Continue making this kind of video to strengthened all Muslim faith. You have shown that Quran is indeed preserved within the 7 ahruf and 10 Qiraat.
@GH Who said that? Majority islamic scholar never claim that quran is preserved word to word. If you study the meaning of 7 Ahruf and 10 Qiraat, you will never make such claim. Christian is cherry picking to discredit Quran because their Trinity concept has cripple down and many have left christian and join Islam.
@GH That ustaz must be ignorant. Not all ustaz are clever same like your priest.
@GH You show me which differences that change our practise, change the way we pray, fast, paying zakat, doing haj etc.
ohh it preserve dot by dot ooo..which kids didn't know mushaf(suhuf kept by prophet muhamad in his house)and have been verified by prophet himself it been call suhuf Abu baker bcs after prophet pass away he kept it as first caliphate named after him bcs of that..then after that have been used to write mashaf al imam these copied have been used by third caliphate uthman bin affan for it doesn't have dots or whatever all four caliphate they memorise al Quran including Aisha..she being teach by prophet directly if goat eat entire copied of al Quran you think she care?its normal even torah also like this..th-cam.com/video/nrlTo8WS9p8/w-d-xo.html the different torah lost and destroy by nebucadnezar they doesn't have original copied anymore..its rare to find they memorise torah..how to transmit if varies word impossible bcs meaning also changed..brain cannot accept that..how to corrupt memorise?al Quran have been preserve in both way writing and memorising..never see muslim in Mecca do pilgrimage fight bcs different al Quran..most christian think Jesus receive revelation fly to sky or book send to earth??if Gabriel met these type of people don't think they can survive..Adam till the last prophet he met and guide them..you say what??
@GH then tell me what the meaning of those dots?you so cute too.
May the good lord almighty God our jesus christ bless you guys for giving us what is really useful for our teachings when we confront our brothers muslims
Muslims, is it Allah or we (people) remover our sins?
you should ask children of isreal that verse talking about them..you must didn't read entire verse right?you want want me attach that verse so you can digest it?if I attach you will get arabic class for free..this chances you shouldn't waste..effect of reading translation..thats normal among christian...remember thats Semitic language..hebrew,arabic..aramic mother of Semitic language..if didn't know what is that better shut up and go learn.th-cam.com/video/nrlTo8WS9p8/w-d-xo.html have you wonder why rabbi always say christian miss interpreted revelation..then you guys say rabbi crazy, lost what ever..eh..they say the right thing..faced that issue first than talk.
Their faith makes their mind dumb and dull, and so, these arguments are in vain for them, except they still have mind not only a brain.
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Regarding Surah 7:161, the Hafs translation has Allah speaking in the plural. Shirk!
7.160 that verse talk about children of isreal talking about event happen(involve in that event gabriel,moses,aaron,and Moses follower-the time frame 5 thousand year different-Royal we)Moses or angel they cannot and will not forgive sin bcs angel and prophet they sinless its talking about duty done by his slave(angel prophet,bnei isreal) how unforgettable that moment so the reader can focus and take lesson from that event ..their GOD didn't have son, mother etc or like creation you know echad or in arabic ahad its doesn't mean one but instead uniquely one impossible can increase or decrease in number or attribute not like creation..they not among polytheist..thats why children of isreal can pray in mosque its forbidden to pray or enter church..bcs polytheist..thats the problem if used translation..thats word sooooo clear it using nahnu..do you know what is that?bible used according to...but from people guess..not directly from GOD inform like al Quran..impossible can change or manipulate that word..it will change the entire context..
@@GardeniaInc The children of Israel forgive sins?
That's what idolaters thinks about the prophet as magician. Not the muslims.
Wonderful work ....Could you also teach Muslims that The Quran has Hebrew Prophets and that Sura 2 explicitly declares Israel as God's chosen nation ?? Thank you and God bless
You misunderstand Islam...
Just as some Jews rejected Jesus, you all reject Muhammed. (Peace be upon them all)
Muslim believe in ALL PROPHETS and acknowledge the Truth in previous revelations.
Study from an expert in Islam about Islam not from Al Fadi who seeks to lead you astray.
@@H18717 I do not reject Mohamed (PBUH) because he was visited by Angel Gabriel I know Mohamed,Moses and Jesus were sinners who had contact with God in diverse ways
Their writings are subject to scrutiny and questioning because they are humans and such questioning does not affect of God
...Al Fadi just needs to sit down with us and we have a structured discussion ending in resolutions
@@qdshsciencetheologyphil8536 If you understand any of the Prophets (peace be upon them all) and the meaning of Revelations (not writings), you would not say that their writings are subject to scrutiny. God reveals His message to the Prophets, who then deliver it to the people to warn them against all that is evil and to enjoin all that is good so that the people may please God and enter the Eternal Paradise.
God tests every generation as He Wills.
The last prophet is Muhammad (PBUH) and the last Revelation that confirms the TRUTH in all prior revelations and guides mankind to all that is good is the Quran. The Quran is the Word of the Creator of the Entire Universe.
Al Fadi might think by dressing like an Arab, he can deceive people, but primarily, he decieves himself first.
Everyone can go around wasting their precious time in the Short temporal world arguing, disputing or refuting the Truth....Ultimately we will all die whether its today or tomorrow and we will either be pleased that we believed and did good deeds or be in despair or regret that we disbelieved and disobeyed God's message.
Peace!
@@qdshsciencetheologyphil8536
All prophets of God are sinless God Almighty would not send sinners to guide the people.
@@farookdinaully8029 Oh my friend my khalil ..Read the Hadiths Mohamed pbuh prayed to God to have mercy on him
So all the prophets are sons of Adam with Jesus having a special birth but nonetheless still called himself a sin er or not a good person
Read the Quran Mohamed pbuh says God is all merciful all forgiving ...whose sins was Allah forgiving ?? Mohamed sins ...he was a Son of Adam
Same to Moses and Jesus whom the latter said forgive us our sins in the Lord's prayer
even if you upload the videos such like these everyday it will always interesting and fascinating and effective to show the false of this religion
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@@abunajam6787wellcome in the hole
@@valerossi823 And what/which hole is this?
@@abunajam6787 all of standard Islamic narrative is a hole... a big big hole.. all of it...
@@valerossi823 Brother, instead of making wild hollow statement(s), please detail the "hole" in Islamic narrative. Thank you. nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5063
It’s funny because at 6:45 “word” in Arabic it should be “كلمة” with a closed "t" that looks like “h with dots”, not like “كلمت” with an open “t" that spelling is wrong.
Most of these examples that you are giving, including switching they/you and he/we ponouns (2:271, 3:83), singluar vs plural (6:115, 19:77), active vs passive verb ( 7:161, 9:66, 15:8 ), are just examples of iltifāt, which is a known literary feature of the Quran. If you can find iltifāt even within a single version of the Quran, I am not sure how you think this it is relevant or impactful to find iltifāt between different versions of the Quran.
According to this article >> www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/text/grammar/iltifaat , iltifāt can encompass:
- Change in person, between 1st, 2nd and 3rd person, which is the most common and is usually divided into six kinds.
- Change in number, between singular, dual and plural.
- Change in addressee.
- Change in the tense of the verb.
- Change in case marker.
- Using noun in place of pronoun.
This article cites hundreds of examples of iltifāt just within the standard (Hafs) Quran. You can see an example of changing between you/they for the addressee and Allah referred to both he and we in verses 15:95-99
You can see a change from singular (he) to plural (they) when referring to mankind in 100:6-11
You can find changes in active vs passive voice of verbs in the Quran as well: 16:8 "And [He created] the horses, mules and donkeys for you to ride " vs 88:17 "do they not look at the camels - how they are created".
There is no finding with these examples. How many of the 93000 differences you mentioned are just iltifāt and how many of them are actually relevant and change the meaning?
You are not understanding their point.
What you are claiming is, sometimes allah speaks using I or We etc. And of course this happens.
That's not what they are pointing.
Say, in Ch1 verse 1, you have this sentence:
I gave you the book of revealation.
Here, in other variant qurans, the verse is changed with I, He, They
So the same sentence will be read " You/They gave the book of revelation"
Do you see the changing of meaning here.
So, these kinds of mistakes were made, what else have been changed? Revised?
That which prohibits drinking alcohol and illegal sexual intercourse as both are dirty attitudes in the light of the Holy Quran and the Holy Bible too.
In english you say "how are you or who are you. Why are english people using plural "are " for a single person "you ".
@Majo Flinterman if you read hebrew bible there are words used as plural of respect in hebrew....
Are you trying to white wash Allah and ummi mullah Muhammad 🤣 🤣 🤣
So sad Allah don't know English 😭
@@passion4nation 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Mohammed Amir The Qur'an is perfectly preserved in SEVEN MODES nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862. Christianity dupes people nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=5090
@Majo Flinterman No, brother, it does not mean "allah keeps seven etnernal tablets of the quran somewhere up in the sky." Only that the seven different modes of recitation of the Qur'an are intrinsic in the Quraysh dialect. However, since man can store Himalayan amount of data on the head of a pin and store many files of hundreds of gigabytes on a computer chip, then given the sophistication of Allah's system, surely Allah can "keep(s) seven etnernal tablets of the quran somewhere up in the sky." nogodbutallah.org/?page_id=4862
Qur'an is gobbledygook so it makes no difference if the meaning is altered, it never meant anything to begin with
Its very wrong interpretation of the words ..these two scripts of Quran are from different dialect with different accent of words pronunciations. Intermingling them in wrong way. sometime for respect of greatness the plural words are used for single person, and here is the same case regarding HE and WE ..both interpret the Allah. But from different aspect of Dialect and their aesthetic sense.
There are many linguistic differences, but the narrative is false. Islam can be equated to a tire. It only works if you inflate it. Peace be upon Grinch!
---- > I would say none of them are accurate. Islamic writings correspond to some historical events but , most likely, the character of Muhammad was invented.
18:102 (Al-Kahf)
Do those who disbelieve think that they can get away with setting up My servants (Jesus), as gods beside Me? We have prepared for the disbelievers' Hell as an eternal abode.
The argument that meaning is not affected is a Christian one, Muslims adopted it once their claim that the Qur'an is the same letter for letter was disproven it seems
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!....
Is Islam fabricated ?
This is stupidity.
I'm not a Briton/Englishman.
If I start mocking "God", because in my tribe we use "Mungu", thinking that they are not one and the same. Then, an Englishman will think I am ignorant or stupid. This is what I am thinking about you now!
For your information, the name "Allah" is not Muslim. Allah is not a muslim God!
The word"Allah", is used by both arab atheists and Arab Christians.
The Arabic Bible uses the word "Allah" for God. They have no other name to use!
Caution.
Now that you know, stop insulting the God of Arabic speaking Christians.
Dude the God of the Christians and Jews, and the god of Muslims are 2 different characters. When they say Allah, they are referring to Islamic God, and Arab Christians won't be offended.
only God can be perfect not the dragon.....the dragon has failed muslim open your eyes
Hafs, Wafs, Faxk🤣🤣🤣 wtf quran🤣🤣 people just wanna read.. not to be told how to read🤣🤣
None of this comic book is accurate
Jesus never died.
Jesus is not God.
Christmas and Easter are man made celebrations that neither Jesus nor his disciples celebrated.
Jesus is a Prophet of God sent to preach the worship of One God.
He enjoined good and forbade evil. The miracles were a sign of his Prophethood.
O mankind, repent and worship One God! Do not be like the idol worshippers who worship others along or instead of God.
THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS.
THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS.
SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
Interesting but please avoid burping on video m. 2,11. Thanks