MK Party | Shivambu explains why he changed his mind about Zuma
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ย. 2024
- The newly appointed MK party secretary-general Floyd Shivambu has clarified his U-turn on former President Jacob Zuma.
As former EFF deputy president, Shivambu was at the forefront of Zuma's removal as the country's president during Public Protector Thuli Madonsela's investigation into the multi-million Rand upgrade of his Nkandla homestead in northern KwaZulu-Natal.
Speaking to the SABC News, Shivambu who was the MK National Organiser and now the Secretary General says they were in fact misled on Zuma.
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The love of money and power changed his mind😂
Yes yes yes
Kodwa ungconobkunalento eyenzeka kwa Eff to forget about voters and care about foreingners who are looting all mzansi people service
Chest pains. Those lies are an old and tired song. Ppl has seen through the mainstream media lies. What Shivambu is saying, is what we've bn saying since state capture circus
I think the reckless and unpredictable behaviour of someone who can just publicly embarrass you anytime, is the reason many are going to leave that beautiful organisation called EFF,... someone needs to grow up .....
Yes
Soon the noise will go down it will remain mk facing DA 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
How will that be, the mk diamond scammer got arrested, no funds for you guys😂😂
Nkandla was a falsehood, state capture was also a falsehood. Okay Floyd, we're are also convinced 😅😅😅
Everyone whom has joined MK party have been accused of corruption
Yes, but no one has been arrested for it, they have been only removed from their positions. If they were found guilty of an offence we both know they should be arrested. Don’t fall to political traps.
It's very simple, look at it this way. Most media platforms are owned by white elites who bleed this country dry off its' natural resources. If they see that a black person tries to get in their way, they smear that person in the media.
If ur are against WMC, mainstream medía will be on yo case. The cheapest propaganda is that ur corrupt. Up to now 20 years down the line, noone can present proof of Zuma corruption. Lies don't last forever
@@Keylez1731 what political traps? Shivambu cannot be indicted, because the evidence that implicates him is inadmissible in court, because of how it was obtained. Zuma on the other hand has been avoiding court because the evidence against him is overwhelming. The documents that were used to convict Schabir Sheik mention him by name.
Yes brut those who from ANC .bt those members ordinal people .re not corrupt,bt they are not getting position, those corrupt members re the ones get position.
Future of EFf and ANC is in grave 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Never
Wait until Zuma dies you'll be signing the same song True story
@@DanielNgwenya-ik3zgoh Daniel, you're so indinael
EFF is the future of South African politics
@incomingvirus8669 only in Limpopo.
It's mind-boggling that this politician claims he was misled by the media. Didn't he have the resources to fact-check before making rash decisions? It's laughable that he's using the media as an excuse for kicking out Zuma. If he's being honest, he'd admit it's about his financial gain from joining this party.
He has sold his soul to Satan
It’s hard to take Floyd Shivambu seriously after seeing him completely change his stance on Zuma. Not long ago, he was a major voice against Zuma, even pushing for the state capture inquiry. Now, he’s supporting him? It raises questions about whether his loyalty is genuine or just a political move for power.
He will say anything that helps his bank balance !
All of us we need any party is gonna make us proud because ANC for 30 years was in power nothing dan for all South Africans so to me i must say Thatha MK usise phambili dont worry about negative words asambe nono 😂
@@NkululekoManentsaBut they were in the ANC so what Difference they going to do now SA in a Mess bcoz of this Greedy Politicians they all POWER HUNGRY No Respect for them
@@NkululekoManentsa M.K. is not that Party ! A Party that is based on people who were charged with corruption will not take us anywhere ! Floyd Shivambu fought so hard with Malema to get Zuma out and now he wants him to be President ??? WALLET POLITICS ?????????
so you want him not to change his mind when he has had seen that what he was saying wasnt true, are you mad?
Shivambu made us to believe that Zuma was a serial thief
Only when he wants money he'll say zuma is great
Who knows what if Shivambu becomes Mk President in near future for unity sake
Yey anikaboni lutho..u Baba uNkulunkulu ukhona❤
Our future is safe! GWAZA MKHONTO
This guy must be arrested by BVS bank.
Am I the only one who thinks MKP formation might be a strategy by the ANC to remain in power. Like ANC v02😂😂😂
Not with sick people leading tMK
Nah! The ANC has Fikile mbalula and ramadolla. The two useless people you can find in politics
Yes you’re the only one
😂😂😂payback the money. Floyd very selective with the truth. Mention Nkandlagate, Guptagate. Weren't tgey true?😂
I have a lot of general admiration for Floyd, his intellect and insight on subjects that matter. However, his claim that "they were misled" about Msholozi, and the attempt to defend the executives (in his new party), who are paragons of alleged corruption, is nonsensical & so low for an educated man, with access to lots of sources of information. Its shear desperation to fit in, into a train driven by an old man, whom he did not only despised, but was also a recipient of his perennial & disrespectful insults. He must just apologize to Msholozi for his past sins, without trying to co-opt us into his new lies.
This one thinks we are all from KZN
😂😂😂😂😂
he is joke🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
KZN people are warriors who love and know who they are, they are not easily influenced by big English words...they know the difference between civil servants and their true leader the King .....
@@senzomemela1311Racists and Facists have no Place in RSA.
Floyd must think we are all from Umlazi
Now he is shifting the blame. He is in the beginning of spin doctoring..that's the politics
i wonder what is Floyd up to? but we will see.
Careers are blossoming at MK....Gwaza Mkhonto Gwaza...!!!!!!! 10/11/2024
Hhhhhhh trouble is coming for EFf and ANC
Never
@@DanielNgwenya-ik3zgoh Daniel you're so indiniel
Gwaza mkhonto wesizwe viva MK samba nawe nxamalala uyalazi usizi lomuntu omnyama noma bengathini samba nawe. Singabakho baba❤❤❤
Him being misled,where did his realisation of being misled leave us EFF.What if hes being misled again as we speak?
No it was not the media.
It was you who told us about Zuma’s corruption.
Don’t lie to us now
The source was the media.
They think we are stupid this one😌he has a right to join the party but please don’t play in our faces sir
The mistake that Madonsela, Jonas, mainstream and WMC did was to lie about Zuma in trying to discredit him. Lies don't last. Now South Africans can c how much they've bn taken for a ride
What did Madonsela lie about.
@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg everything. She only slandered Zuma. Unfortunately, the captured judiciary was part of the drama.
Everything! Your problem is you lack knowledge of self. That is why you'll never understand or see what madonsela did.@@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg
Zuma established the state capture commission, or was he trying to discredit himself?
It's people who are falling for Zuma's con who are being taken for a ride. If Zuma is innocent, maybe he shouldn't avoid going to court.
The WMC is the BS that was peddled by the Guptas via bot accounts on Twitter. They paid an Indian tech company $12000 to generate African sounding names. Those names were then used to post propaganda on Twitter about how Zuma and the Guptas were victims of WMC.
Zuma did more than anyone to ensure that racism never dies. He destroyed a great economy and destroyed the image of African leadership. Today we have black people who genuinely believe they were better off during Apartheid because of that hump-headed POS and his enablers.
Once a traitor always a traitor 👌
Once a colonizer always a colonizer!
@@Mpho-j3fplease stay focused 😂😂😂this is what 33% gets you
This one thinks we arw from malamulele😂😂😂😂😂
Whats wrong with people from Malamulele?
Rubbish mnxm
@xitsongatv1364 awuswi voni wena?
When a person acted foolishly, few accepted but blamed others.
Gwaza shivambu 💪💪💪💪mayibuye
Julius malema still stands on what he said 8 yrs ago wow Cic sibuse
All small parties mk is going to eat them soon
Was he forced to exonerate Zuma?
EFF is the future of South African politics you heard it here first
Viva Msholozi viva🖤💚🖤💚
This real politics of the stomach 😂
Politicians are liars
He is not honest
So after Floyd joining MK media is no LONGER speaking ABOUT THE VBS LOOTING
The mn is a coward klaarr
Hehehehe! Mara Floyd o reng? Politicians le maka😂😂😂😂
Vuka wena! And stop stumbling here on your own, vuka!! Walala wasala. Shut up and watch the space..
@Mpho-j3f don't tell me to shut up. That's the thing about cult followers. The minute someone disagrees with you, you resort to intimidation. Bcos you have since convinced yourself that what you believe stands and you shut every opinion that clashes with yours. Mxm!
Duduzane knows that you are not trustworthy😂😅
Come on Floyd, the best and honest thing you can do is to be honest with yourself. How can you as the most intellectual person be allowed to be misled by the media with all the education you have?
Me too l feel to that trap thinking he was a fraudster like it was too much but not even one statement from the bank came front saying he did a fraud no witness bu wss accused the karma one day stru 🤞 tye history will repeat itself 😊
You will never know until you know
We fell into that trap????😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What horseshit
So you were Making noise for something you didn't know?
Then apologise to South Africans
Tribalism 😢
Better than racist
@@Mpho-j3fThey are racist. And so are you. I mean if people with no education want people with low education to lead them then that is your choice. Don't worry you guys can always blame white man when things go wrong. Your leaders can then jump ship to a new get rich scheme, or revolutionary political party as you lot like to call it. Suckers.
What does that say about his decision making skills? He was very convinced when he voluntarily left ANC to join EFF that Zuma is the problem & comrades in ANC were shielding him. How does he know that he has not been misled this time?
In October 2😊16 unprovoked Floyd Shivambu posted farewell msg on public platform to the outgoing public protector after the state capture preliminary report which let the set of the commission, “T Madonsela. We want to be like you when we grow up & never sacrifice principle on the altar of convenience.”
Stomach politics
Hypocrite!
Snake 🐍 Floyd you will not gonna survived in MK u will come back to EFF like network
ZUMA IS PLAYING WITH HIS LEADERSHIP MEMBERSHIP....AI...LETS SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT!!!
Xoki ndini Flody
He is either gullible or a fool, either which makes him not qualified to lead..
Floyd Floyd Floyd, you political Cameleon.
He gonna led the MK
The flip floper full of hatred special Julius because now more money and positions and power 😅😅
No back bone nothing more.
😂😂😂😂😂 this man
Gupta party taking over the country 😂
From India with love. That is why we have them in BRICKS.
He left cause he thinks zuma is gonna loot more and he wants to join😂😂follow the money flip flop
1:25 😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣
This guy is a joke now.
This are Zuma's Toys mxm🚮🚮🚮
Now you want work under him after what stupid EFF Did was no peace at Parliament because of EFF ndiyayonyanya EFF I wish ngaphela soon
hayi suka u emotional wena
😂😂😂 flyod you think we are all stupid, those Zulu's now are angry with you because you addressed them in English😅😅😅. Mazulu mange cinci hemfo amahi lavi. Too much tribalism. Why you allowed Dali to play games by using you 😂
Flip flopper of note.!
Floyd is gud in lies xm 😂😂😂saving his stomach
Yoooo Floyd you are a wolf in a sheep skin. I don't know why the MKP gave you such a powerful position because to me you can't be trusted
Floyd, a true sellout
Money 😅😅😅
Floyd ole menemene u know that
Gwaza mkhonto gwaza !
Flip floppers 😂
Chest pains. Manage yo Bp. Otherwise it'll kill u. That 'flip flopper'. Will be state VP in 2029. Will u flee SA?
😂😂😂
Thato s bullshit
Asibabizi bayazizela 🤣
Sorry for you Floyd you will never be a president of his country anymore big mistake for you but Ofcouse VBS mpofu ^ Zuma will defend you
No choise but to admire Floyd.
Zuma was never found guilty of any of the accusations and if you still hate him then it really a shame on you
Really?
Let him stand trial and prove his innocence there.
Problem is zuma had and people still like him he should have taken the land becasue he would have go to robin island for mahala thatha lomhlaba before yu die msholozi
Sellout
What I like about what Floyd said is that there is no leak of information in the MK.........
Because there is no information 😂
Is this a party or a cult
@ that is why they’re being appointed not elected 🤣😂🙈
Your a traitor
But Zuma is fighting Ramaphosa moss
He is fighting for public funds and control
@mphelorodney6057 and what will an 80year old buy with money, which he can't already buy🤧
Keep dreaming. Zuma is fighting injustice and black oppression. It only happens that Ramaphosa is on the side of neocolonialists and WMC.
@@JabulaniMathuthu hawe jesu you actually believe Zuma 😂 yakhumbula nishisa izitolo nizishisela uZuma😂
@sisandasabela8251 awu! Bewufuna kushiselwe bani? Wena? Zuma is the only president who ever cared about black. Go on and believe lies that are so tired now
How can betryed yr freind so bad
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Get convinced alone. Only Zulu will vote for you guys and if Zuma is gone the party will die bc we know Zulu are only loyal to their own and they wouldn’t support you bc the wouldn’t be Zulu leader to convinced. You voting for your stomach.
Rubbish rubbish you Tsonga boy or whatever ethnicity you are who sold out... I may sound like an EFF supporter but I'm a original standing where this man started his political understanding
😂😂😂😎🤷♂️
Nobody cares!
Gwaza Mkhonto!!!!
Shivambu himself is a crook lol saying zuma and the guptas are saints
Tell us what Zuma and Guptas did. Come on. Repeat the common lies. Let's c if ur do it better than Sunday Times, SABC, eNCA, Newzroom Africa etc. If ppl now can c through their lies, u surely nid luck to make yo lies stick
@JabulaniMathuthu lol zuma lol never stole a cent lol he has no money at all and he never allowed the guptas to choose there own corrupt staff like molefe and simgj well the only thing u must be is a zulu boy
I'm giving him 1year from now he'll be begging for forgiveness to Malema watch the space
@thandimasilela8947 u may be right if they share a cell after vbs justice
@KevinDavis-op3qp u like speaking nonsense. Grow up stop pleasing yourself on stupid presumptions. Of course fools like to daydream
Politicians are liars
He is not honest
ZUMA IS PLAYING WITH HIS LEADERSHIP MEMBERSHIP....AI...LETS SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT!!!