Nice take on two great boxes. TD-3 nails the original sound better and I prefer the built in distortion to the one on the -03, but both sound fantastic and the TB-03 has some advantages like running on batteries, delay + reverb, and being able to automate all the controls via MIDI. Can't go wrong with either really, just comes down to which aspects are most important to you.
in my country, there is a big difference in price! TB-03 $679, TD-03 $155.. you can buy 4 TD-03's and still have money left over for the price of one TB-03 😮
@@thenameisx Out of the box it seemed like the original TD-3s were a bit bright. You can get that low end back by adjusting the VCF offset trimpot in the TD-3. Just search "VCF Offset Trimpot adjustment TD-3" and you should find some videos. I think there's also a video of a guy playing his TD-3 after the adjustment against his actual TB-303, and I ran the two tracks through audacity and they were almost a 100% match. I was planning to do the adjustment on mine but mine came with that nice rubbery low end out of the box, I'm not sure if they tuned that trimpot differently on different colours (I have the TD-3-AM yellow one) or if it's just different in every one and I got lucky, but I still to this day haven't bothered to touch the trimpot because I was lucky enough to land one that didn't need it.
I went with the TB03 for simple reasons. It has reverb delay and distortion. It has a screen ! ( it's easy to get lost making patterns on a TB ). can operate with batteries. Sounds fuller than TD3.
I have both and the TB-03 is definitely easier to program. The screen helps a lot, and also the alternate mode that lets you load notes in a more SH-101 style, which is just way more intuitive. The TD-3 sounds a little better tho, those knobs are almost entirely sweet spot. Of course, that's mostly cuz 303s really don't have much range. They do the 303 thing, and that's about it. The TB-03 can cover more ground with its effects, but not necessarily in a good way. Tbh they both have notable pros and cons. Both are good choices for different reasons.
wow, now, this time (2nd trial) these dudes uses finally the same osc setting (Saw/Pulse) to compare the sound - smart! (even when they are not be able to program the same notes :p)
What. .. it’s terrible .. wen you sit in settee and that plastic key clicking etc .. drives u mad .. weight is issue it’s like a rizla paper .. the Roland is solid
What struck me was how painful it is to get ideas into the box. I've never dug the TB303 input method for writing patterns, these seen just the same. I appreciate the appeal of the relative "randon" vibe but after a while the novelty would wear off with me.
I think the input method is a key element of the 303's charm and sound. It's unpredictablity creates some happy accidents! Keep punching in patterns, take the time to figure out why you're getting what you're getting and your grooves will improve! I
@@colinrussell2017 - exactly, the quirkiness of the sequencer is the main part of the magic with a 303. Never gets boring as you’re never sure what’s going to happen when you press play.
I really love this channel, keep up the good work! I used to own a behringer td-03, bought it for 84,- euros, it’s cheap and it can produce the same sounds as the original. But I sold it, didn’t really like it. The midi recieve didn’t go well and my AKAI mpc one tried to talk to him, no magic. But then I saw a great advertisement of a second hand Roland boutique tb-03. I already knew I loved the acid sounds, the behringer disappointed me so much, and it should have been almost the same!! I bought the boutique, I never felt this happiness before
Got both. Roland is so much better in way of the original tb303 totally updated. Acm kills it so close its astonishing. Behringer is cool bass machine but its far from being a tb303 or tb03. I like them both but my tb03 is just....well... Preferable
Behringer IS a best ! Analog,analog distorsion, original filtre and circuit, filtrer in, CV and midi, appegiator ! Funny color and analog analog and analog!!!
I’m sorry for you guys, as I usually enjoy your videos but I think it’s not the best time to hear about Behringer at all. Their behavior should not be endorsed. Uli Behringer-many call him “the Bully”-posted a video attacking Peter Kirn, a journalist, using an idea he found somewhere else like most of his products’ designs. He even tried to trademark the journalist’s name, how crazy is that? He has issued an apology, then removed it. He said it was satire, when it was really diffamation. It is possible that the attack has an antisemitic inspiration. In a xenophobic manner, he also offended French people by mocking the French accent as snobbish and associating it with the smelly stereotype. The people who defend him in all the threads are likely part of his social media team, that must be quite big considering the money he has put into designing this pro-looking attack video and into hiring lawyers to harass Internet critics, as Kirn has covered, hence the revenge video. As I was on the verge of forgiving him for his reckless lawsuits, and maybe buying a bit more of his products, he went even further in his crazy pursuit. Giving him money is like paying his lawyers to help him harass the whole industry and even the users. Would boycott put a stop to this?
Ah, yet another Zionist troll who claims every action taken by anyone, ever, is "antisemitic", and then trying to enforce a boycott on pseudo-humanitarian grounds. As for your groundless "many call him “the Bully"", in this instance the imaginary "many" is you, you, and you. And no-one else. "He also offended French people by mocking the French accent as snobbish" - oh, come on. You really are oozing desperation now. Crawl back to your revolting defence of the racist, land-grabbing, Palestinian-murdering state of Israel. I don't know how morons like you manage to sleep at night.
Nonsense. 'There are many monosynths, so just what is it that makes the sound of the TB-303 so unique? In many ways, it’s a simple sound that emanates from that mono output; a single oscillator can be switched between a square and saw wave before sculpting with the 24 dB low-pass filter (often misquoted as 18 dB, 3-pole) that can’t even ascend into self-oscillation. For the truly authentic grind that the 303 is capable of, you’ll need one other element-overdrive or distortion. If you have nothing at hand, then overdrive a channel on your desk to add some crunch.' Source: rolandus.com
Actually that’s a misconception. The 303 filter as far as I’m aware isn’t actually the 18db. But like I said it’s as far as I’m aware. I’ve heard either DivKid or Mylar Melodies day it in their videos so you can blame one of them if I’m wrong.
It's a diode ladder filter with one of the four diodes (which act as filter poles) more or less deactivated. This is what prevents self oscillation and is also the source of the 18 vs 24 dB confusion. Four poles = 24 dB
My TD-3 broke after 3 weeks - waiting from my replacement from you guys
Chris Johnson it says on the box, it’s not an off-road vehicle!!
Nice take on two great boxes. TD-3 nails the original sound better and I prefer the built in distortion to the one on the -03, but both sound fantastic and the TB-03 has some advantages like running on batteries, delay + reverb, and being able to automate all the controls via MIDI. Can't go wrong with either really, just comes down to which aspects are most important to you.
in my country, there is a big difference in price! TB-03 $679, TD-03 $155.. you can buy 4 TD-03's and still have money left over for the price of one TB-03 😮
@@slakk5093 For real, that's why I personally ended up grabbing a TD-3. Can still see why some would pick up a TB-03 though.
Nah .. total balls.. Roland kills it nukes it in fact end of
@@thenameisx Out of the box it seemed like the original TD-3s were a bit bright. You can get that low end back by adjusting the VCF offset trimpot in the TD-3. Just search "VCF Offset Trimpot adjustment TD-3" and you should find some videos. I think there's also a video of a guy playing his TD-3 after the adjustment against his actual TB-303, and I ran the two tracks through audacity and they were almost a 100% match.
I was planning to do the adjustment on mine but mine came with that nice rubbery low end out of the box, I'm not sure if they tuned that trimpot differently on different colours (I have the TD-3-AM yellow one) or if it's just different in every one and I got lucky, but I still to this day haven't bothered to touch the trimpot because I was lucky enough to land one that didn't need it.
I went with the TB03 for simple reasons.
It has reverb delay and distortion.
It has a screen ! ( it's easy to get lost making patterns on a TB ).
can operate with batteries.
Sounds fuller than TD3.
I have the TB-03. Will sell it and buy 2 TD-3. Not cause they sound better etc. Just that Roland pissed me off!
I have both and the TB-03 is definitely easier to program. The screen helps a lot, and also the alternate mode that lets you load notes in a more SH-101 style, which is just way more intuitive. The TD-3 sounds a little better tho, those knobs are almost entirely sweet spot. Of course, that's mostly cuz 303s really don't have much range. They do the 303 thing, and that's about it. The TB-03 can cover more ground with its effects, but not necessarily in a good way. Tbh they both have notable pros and cons. Both are good choices for different reasons.
@eF Ka TB3 Aira interface is crap, that's the major problem.
I was with you, right up until “Sounds fuller …” … 🤔
What does an 8 or 16 voice TD-3 polychain sound like? Not seen anyone try that yet
Yet another demo where I feel like the TB-03 sounds better 🤔
@@thank_you_thank_you they have the same sound engine my guy...
I think most of it is because the roland has onboard effects.
wow, now, this time (2nd trial) these dudes uses finally the same osc setting (Saw/Pulse) to compare the sound - smart! (even when they are not be able to program the same notes :p)
Siiick acidy shootout!!
Review the Kirn next.
xDimitricx edgy.
Awesome-ness
que buen video colega saludos desde TIJUANA Mexico
The Behringer sounds waaaay better
Really? I honestly can't tell a difference.
What. .. it’s terrible .. wen you sit in settee and that plastic key clicking etc .. drives u mad .. weight is issue it’s like a rizla paper .. the Roland is solid
What struck me was how painful it is to get ideas into the box. I've never dug the TB303 input method for writing patterns, these seen just the same. I appreciate the appeal of the relative "randon" vibe but after a while the novelty would wear off with me.
Tb-03 actually has a much better sequencer. The TD-3 apparently uses the 303's same sequencing method but also has a PC editor.
I think the input method is a key element of the 303's charm and sound. It's unpredictablity creates some happy accidents!
Keep punching in patterns, take the time to figure out why you're getting what you're getting and your grooves will improve!
I
@@colinrussell2017 fair enough 👍
@@colinrussell2017 - exactly, the quirkiness of the sequencer is the main part of the magic with a 303. Never gets boring as you’re never sure what’s going to happen when you press play.
Idk what Roland was thinking by making digital "clones" of analog synths? They don't sound the same...
I really love this channel, keep up the good work! I used to own a behringer td-03, bought it for 84,- euros, it’s cheap and it can produce the same sounds as the original. But I sold it, didn’t really like it. The midi recieve didn’t go well and my AKAI mpc one tried to talk to him, no magic. But then I saw a great advertisement of a second hand Roland boutique tb-03. I already knew I loved the acid sounds, the behringer disappointed me so much, and it should have been almost the same!! I bought the boutique, I never felt this happiness before
How's the roland tb 03 with mpc one ?
Got both. Roland is so much better in way of the original tb303 totally updated. Acm kills it so close its astonishing.
Behringer is cool bass machine but its far from being a tb303 or tb03. I like them both but my tb03 is just....well... Preferable
Cope
▶️ I wish it didn’t but……..the TD3 sounds better
I even hear more analog warmth from my Google Pixel phone dynamics ahah)
Both are Not even close to 303
TD3 ❤️
Behringer IS a best ! Analog,analog distorsion, original filtre and circuit, filtrer in, CV and midi, appegiator ! Funny color and analog analog and analog!!!
Apparently it doesn't have an arp yet. Saw a video about it
…and public attacks on journalists and lawsuits against people commenting on forums.
@@Edouard16 proof?
@@onkelberra3166 Seriously? Proof? Wtf? Do you live with your head buried in the sand?
@@Edouard16 ,proof?
Lol digital vs analog again.
More yeyo please! lol
Awfully bad im afraid wot wot
Given recent events, you should pull all Behringer related content from your channel - give all your love to Roland.
Matthew Williams what does that mean?
Matthew Williams yeah, the joke was shite, but it’s no way anti Semitic for fucks sake.
Man people get more stupid by the day. It isn't anti jew. Only true racists see racism in everything
Agreed Matthew!
I'll never buy anything from Berhinger.
Agreed, throw away products. Cheap, nasty and unreliable.
I agree, but I might consider the TD3, since the original TB303 was plastic crap too.
Well, then you can buy 909 for 5000$ or 303 for 2000$
Crap test
lol this noobs 😂😂😂
I’m sorry for you guys, as I usually enjoy your videos but I think it’s not the best time to hear about Behringer at all. Their behavior should not be endorsed.
Uli Behringer-many call him “the Bully”-posted a video attacking Peter Kirn, a journalist, using an idea he found somewhere else like most of his products’ designs. He even tried to trademark the journalist’s name, how crazy is that?
He has issued an apology, then removed it. He said it was satire, when it was really diffamation. It is possible that the attack has an antisemitic inspiration. In a xenophobic manner, he also offended French people by mocking the French accent as snobbish and associating it with the smelly stereotype.
The people who defend him in all the threads are likely part of his social media team, that must be quite big considering the money he has put into designing this pro-looking attack video and into hiring lawyers to harass Internet critics, as Kirn has covered, hence the revenge video.
As I was on the verge of forgiving him for his reckless lawsuits, and maybe buying a bit more of his products, he went even further in his crazy pursuit. Giving him money is like paying his lawyers to help him harass the whole industry and even the users. Would boycott put a stop to this?
dont care lol I just want a 303
who cares.
Ah, yet another Zionist troll who claims every action taken by anyone, ever, is "antisemitic", and then trying to enforce a boycott on pseudo-humanitarian grounds. As for your groundless "many call him “the Bully"", in this instance the imaginary "many" is you, you, and you. And no-one else. "He also offended French people by mocking the French accent as snobbish" - oh, come on. You really are oozing desperation now. Crawl back to your revolting defence of the racist, land-grabbing, Palestinian-murdering state of Israel. I don't know how morons like you manage to sleep at night.
Boo boo, virtue signal to someone who cares. Don’t make buying synths into a moral quandary
The Behringer fails because they put the wrong filter in it. The original 303 has an 18 db/oct filter, while the Behringer has a 24 db/oct filter.
Nonsense.
'There are many monosynths, so just what is it that makes the sound of the TB-303 so unique? In many ways, it’s a simple sound that emanates from that mono output; a single oscillator can be switched between a square and saw wave before sculpting with the 24 dB low-pass filter (often misquoted as 18 dB, 3-pole) that can’t even ascend into self-oscillation. For the truly authentic grind that the 303 is capable of, you’ll need one other element-overdrive or distortion. If you have nothing at hand, then overdrive a channel on your desk to add some crunch.'
Source: rolandus.com
Actually that’s a misconception. The 303 filter as far as I’m aware isn’t actually the 18db. But like I said it’s as far as I’m aware. I’ve heard either DivKid or Mylar Melodies day it in their videos so you can blame one of them if I’m wrong.
You fail in the synth knowledge contest
It's a diode ladder filter with one of the four diodes (which act as filter poles) more or less deactivated. This is what prevents self oscillation and is also the source of the 18 vs 24 dB confusion. Four poles = 24 dB
Even if that was true, the 03 is digital and sounds way off compared to the td3