You might also enjoy this video a presentation given by an archaeologist about her work studying Mimbres pottery th-cam.com/video/6haHh3Zmtvc/w-d-xo.html
That's an interesting idea they came up with. Digging into the embankment and adding a chimney by digging a shaft straight down. It certainly accounts for a lack of evidence of kilns. Erosion! Simple and plausible explanation especially if you consider it's very similar to how the ancient Chinese, and I believe Korean also, made their kilns. They dug tunnel kilns into the windward side of a hill to capture natural airflow instead of using bellows. If you want reduction atmosphere you'd dig into the leeward side. It'd be an interesting place to do some amateur archeological digging.
3:12 what is called the “kill hole” bowls - are identification names ,with literal avatar representations, of the burried family members. and the hole in the bowl - signifies that they will never have to eat earth foods again, instead they are connected directly with their families above as well as with the round shaped sun/stars/planets ❤
I moved to New Mexico in 2009 and absolutely love learning about the early cultures. I've even found a few shards when hiking, and that's a thrill. Excellent presentation Andy, certainly not something you can learn in a day, your dedication is inspiring. The biggest question I have beyond how it was made, is what inspired the intense designs, the animals I get, you see them around you. But the geometric pieces are what I marvel over, and how clean and even the lines were, as well as the repeated use of what looks like lighting, waves, etc., amazing!
Señor Andy, que hermoso e inspirador todo este trabajo de tratar de reconectarse con la historia Y las viejas tecnologías. Morí de ternura al ver el chivito que hizo ud. De todos los platos hondos que salieron, mi favoritos fueron la imitación con el colibrí y los mosquitos.
Agree with your viewers, love how you include historical insights to the culture along with what can be learned on how the pottery was fired. Thanks for sharing.
I was just listening to a podcast by Dr. Edwin Barnhart on Membres pottery this morning! Cool to see examples. Even cooler to learn a bit about how's made! Thank you!
ANDY iv had really interesting results from the Sedona red rock. I ground it and mixed with water, and mixed and spilt the mix to get the finest powder from the run off. Dried and mixed 50-50 clay . The slip does a funny blotchy colour like our painted desert. All desert colour rainbow from oxidation in my pit. I know it has something tip do with the iron content but I'm a potter not a scientist. Love your work
Hi Andy! Could you teach us how to make paint for pottery too ❤ I feel you would come up with some great new ideas and find some amazing traditional methods too 👩🎨
The paint may have contained a natural reducing agent such as carbon. Perhaps boiled plant sap, which was originally used as a binding agent for the paint. This would also explain the few examples that are completely oxidized. This may have been accidentally fired twice. They then lack the protection of the reducing agent and under the same conditions they turn brown and not black. This suggests that the ceramic was actually fired in a non-reducing environment. But the paint contained enough reducing agents to compensate for this.
Unlikely but since there is no archaeological evidence, who can say. I know a guy who has done a ton of experiments along this line and me and a few others who tried it too, no good repeatable results. th-cam.com/video/70CPfsCI7ho/w-d-xo.html
I haven't made any pottery yet but I'm a mechanic in the rust belt so I've got a fare bit of experience heating iron oxide. If you heat a rusty bit of steel the rust converts to black oxide. it stays black when it cools and if you leave that on a shelf it will turn red again in a month or two. I wonder why iron oxide pottery pigments don't behave the same way?
Interesting. They obviously needed that hole to let the soul of the dead exit from the bowl. The bowl was also playing some unknown part, otherwise the soul could just exit easier. The Hungarians' pagan ancestors were buried with a mask on the face, often in bronze or in gold, a custom that can be traced back to their homeland in the Urals. Mycenaean Greeks did the same for their kings, as shown by the "mask of Agamemnon". Perhaps the mask or bowl was intended to preserve the face from the dirt, but you needed openings to let the soul of the dead out of the body.
Do you have any videos about blue clay? I found absolutely pure blue clay at the point ahere a stream meets the pacific ocean, and it's a beautiful blue colour and feels so pure. My research has brought up the term bentonite, which seems like it - but there doesn't seem to be any information on here about using it or it's quality. Thank you!
You might also enjoy this video a presentation given by an archaeologist about her work studying Mimbres pottery th-cam.com/video/6haHh3Zmtvc/w-d-xo.html
Great explanation! Thanks 🔥
That's an interesting idea they came up with. Digging into the embankment and adding a chimney by digging a shaft straight down. It certainly accounts for a lack of evidence of kilns. Erosion! Simple and plausible explanation especially if you consider it's very similar to how the ancient Chinese, and I believe Korean also, made their kilns. They dug tunnel kilns into the windward side of a hill to capture natural airflow instead of using bellows. If you want reduction atmosphere you'd dig into the leeward side. It'd be an interesting place to do some amateur archeological digging.
Yes, I'm sure there much be similar examples around the world. Here we find old lime kilns in there hills occasionally which are formed the same way.
3:12 what is called the “kill hole” bowls - are identification names ,with literal avatar representations, of the burried family members.
and the hole in the bowl - signifies that they will never have to eat earth foods again, instead they are connected directly with their families above as well as with the round shaped sun/stars/planets ❤
This video is a treat. The historical background story, the pictures, the maps. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I agree with you❤
Absolutely gorgeous! The artists trying to recreate the original artwork can’t even come close.
Enjoyed the video, Mimbres is a beautiful mystery
I think so too!
I moved to New Mexico in 2009 and absolutely love learning about the early cultures. I've even found a few shards when hiking, and that's a thrill. Excellent presentation Andy, certainly not something you can learn in a day, your dedication is inspiring. The biggest question I have beyond how it was made, is what inspired the intense designs, the animals I get, you see them around you. But the geometric pieces are what I marvel over, and how clean and even the lines were, as well as the repeated use of what looks like lighting, waves, etc., amazing!
Did you know about the Mimbres before watching this video? Do you have a favorite Mimbres pot?
Señor Andy, que hermoso e inspirador todo este trabajo de tratar de reconectarse con la historia Y las viejas tecnologías. Morí de ternura al ver el chivito que hizo ud.
De todos los platos hondos que salieron, mi favoritos fueron la imitación con el colibrí y los mosquitos.
Gracias, me alegro que hayas disfrutado mi video.
Agree with your viewers, love how you include historical insights to the culture along with what can be learned on how the pottery was fired. Thanks for sharing.
can't get enough of that olla! Great information and wonderful tone! The most unseen pot shots. We love looking at those! Thanks again, Andy!
Thanks Mark, appreciate the feedback.
This is all new to me, it's wonderful. Thank you
Interesting piece of history
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Amazing video! Thank you so much for telling us these things ❤
Fantastic presentation! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really good video. So many wonderful pots and well edited. Some of the images I have not seen.
I’m glad you liked it. I have a lot of pot photos, this wasn’t even half of what I have.
I was just listening to a podcast by Dr. Edwin Barnhart on Membres pottery this morning! Cool to see examples. Even cooler to learn a bit about how's made! Thank you!
That's cool.
Thank you. Some remind me of Cucuteni - Trypillian ceramics.
Interesting, I am unfamiliar with that pottery, I will have to look into it.
Loved this video. Thanks. 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
I got the chance to see some of those pots in person this summer! I think the only museum I've ever liked more was the Smithsonian in Houston.
Awesome
Great video. Thx for filming this and sharing it with us.
You bet
Your research and work is so fascinating! Thank you! ❤❤❤🏺
You are so welcome
Well done Andy, very interesting.
Many thanks!
Very interesting. You live in a great area!
Yes I do! Thanks
Great presentation and content. Thank you.
You are welcome.
Thanks for this. I always learn so much from you.
My pleasure!
ANDY iv had really interesting results from the Sedona red rock. I ground it and mixed with water, and mixed and spilt the mix to get the finest powder from the run off. Dried and mixed 50-50 clay . The slip does a funny blotchy colour like our painted desert. All desert colour rainbow from oxidation in my pit. I know it has something tip do with the iron content but I'm a potter not a scientist. Love your work
That sounds pretty cool.
Such beautiful pottery❤️🐝🤗
It really is!
@@AncientPottery 🤗
This was a great episode. Great examples. What books do you recommend on Mimbres culture?
Thanks! Book recommendations are in the dooblidoo ⬇️
@@AncientPottery excellent
Hi Andy! Could you teach us how to make paint for pottery too ❤
I feel you would come up with some great new ideas and find some amazing traditional methods too 👩🎨
I have a lot of videos about paint already, check out this playlist th-cam.com/video/HEY4SSM-W3s/w-d-xo.html
@AncientPottery That's awesome!!! Thank you so much 😮😄💕
The paint may have contained a natural reducing agent such as carbon.
Perhaps boiled plant sap, which was originally used as a binding agent for the paint.
This would also explain the few examples that are completely oxidized.
This may have been accidentally fired twice. They then lack the protection of the reducing agent and under the same conditions they turn brown and not black.
This suggests that the ceramic was actually fired in a non-reducing environment.
But the paint contained enough reducing agents to compensate for this.
Unlikely but since there is no archaeological evidence, who can say. I know a guy who has done a ton of experiments along this line and me and a few others who tried it too, no good repeatable results. th-cam.com/video/70CPfsCI7ho/w-d-xo.html
I haven't made any pottery yet but I'm a mechanic in the rust belt so I've got a fare bit of experience heating iron oxide. If you heat a rusty bit of steel the rust converts to black oxide. it stays black when it cools and if you leave that on a shelf it will turn red again in a month or two. I wonder why iron oxide pottery pigments don't behave the same way?
Very interesting. 👍☀️
thanks
Interesting. They obviously needed that hole to let the soul of the dead exit from the bowl. The bowl was also playing some unknown part, otherwise the soul could just exit easier. The Hungarians' pagan ancestors were buried with a mask on the face, often in bronze or in gold, a custom that can be traced back to their homeland in the Urals. Mycenaean Greeks did the same for their kings, as shown by the "mask of Agamemnon". Perhaps the mask or bowl was intended to preserve the face from the dirt, but you needed openings to let the soul of the dead out of the body.
Interesting ideas and analogies to Europe. Thanks for that.
Thanks 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌵
You’re welcome 😊
Do you have any information on the huge gigantic landscape features that exist across Arizona, Utah and Nevada?
Hey Andy! Is there any way to fix a small crack on the inside of a small bone dry pot?
Do you have any videos about blue clay? I found absolutely pure blue clay at the point ahere a stream meets the pacific ocean, and it's a beautiful blue colour and feels so pure. My research has brought up the term bentonite, which seems like it - but there doesn't seem to be any information on here about using it or it's quality. Thank you!
You tried a whistle?
How close is ceramic? What's the difference?
I have no idea what this means
👍
The sun ran off those it did not fry in place. A coronal mass ejection.
Something wrong with the like button. Wait, it just worked
LOL, computers are weird sometimes
That was a meaty dish. 😄👍
Thanks
@@AncientPottery A favourite channel.
I would have rather seen how it was actually made