Is This TOO DANGEROUS? African Cichlids!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2022
- This African cichlid aquarium has about 39 peacocks and haps, and only ONE mbuna! This is usually a bad idea, so is it working out for my cichlid aquarium? Has it worked in YOUR cichlid tank? Let me know in the comments!
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My current aquariums:
75 gallon peacock hap grow out tank
240 peacock hap show tank
Another aquarium is on the way!
My aquarium equipment:
FILTERS: Fluval Fx6 a.co/d/aXJEx95, Fx4 a.co/d/e0V8DEx, and 407 a.co/d/5xAvD0S
WAVEMAKERS: Uniclife Aquarium 1058 GPH Adjustable Wave Maker a.co/d/22lHK38, Uniclife 3400 GPH Controllable Wavemaker with W-40 Controller a.co/d/8lMLgC7
HEATERS: EHEIM Jager Aquarium Thermostat Heater 300W a.co/d/boZEKaJ
TEMP CONTROLLERS: Inkbird ITC308S Temperature Controller for Aquarium a.co/d/4r1rZWo, Inkbird Heating Thermostat Aquarium Reptile Submersible Probe Sensor ITC306T
WATER CHANGES: SICCE Ultra Zero 793 GPH - Water Pump a.co/d/aJGsjAl, 50ft x 1" ID Clear Vinyl Tubing, Flexible Hybrid PVC Tubing Hose
LIGHTS: Fluval Sea Marine 3.0 a.co/d/i1sbwy9
FOODS: Northfin Jumbo Formula a.co/d/cPy1Kq8, Northfin Fish Food 3 mm Sinking Pellets, 500 g , Cichlid Formula a.co/d/4dAHkvb , Northfin Veggie Formula 3mm a.co/d/5rGGIyi, Frozen krill, Garlic Guard a.co/d/dJpwWIA, VitaChem a.co/d/9kdjnrs
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I've always had mbuna with peacocks & haps for many years and they seem to be very happy together. All depends on the individual fish lol
Same
So far I have one peacock amongst eight mbunas. The peacock is the bully 😅
Their diet is not the same. Most mbuna are vegans.
@@beachaddict7653they also eat carnivore food and peacocks also do eat vegan so nothing wrong with mixing them most of them need spirulina for good color even peacocks and haps need vegan next to carnivore food
@MrSitallewal83 aside from diet, their temperament is different. I'm sure you can make it work, but I don't think it's the best to mix them.
I have a mixed cichlids tank with cichlids from all over and they do just fine🤷🏾♂️
Mine nah, they die attacked by mbuna😂
have you done african with south american? i want to try it but dont want to pointlessly kill fish if i dont need to
Me too
Your lying
@@scheellarachmatillahm8149they always attack they do that fight out Who's boss nothing wrong with that its Just their way to get rangorder I have mbuna peacocks and haps mixed together even have tetra's a polypterus swmming with them all fish do Just fine I even have a big shrimp doing his thing between all those fish
Yeah, I've never had a problem, I've even thrown in some Tropheous, and Lethrinops, no problem.
ANY fish can be aggressive, you can research all you want, but at the end of the day, your individual fish does what your individual fish does. My Labs just chilled around the rocks and made tons of babies. No problems at all.
My friend had a 200 gallon with a yellow in it that dominated all the hiding areas and then made a giant nest in the corner and wouldn't let anyone near it lmfao. I remember he just got a brand new rusty and he was exploring the tank and she started picking on him poor little guy he was so pretty I remember we went to the store to pick him out he was such a beautiful fish just caught your eye with that color
Had a red Zebra named Spike….ate everything that entered the aquarium
I saved a female flowerhorn from a freezing goldfish pawn in a rehoming Facebook ad ... And the only tank I had available at the time was my mbuna cichlid tank (mainly artuas cichlid) I thought it was gonna be terrible but it's actually fantastic 😊
I’ve had a mixed tank for about a year with the same number of all 3, 6 mbuna, 6 happs and 6 peacocks. Never had any issues except for way to many fry produced from mbunas
You know what they say… it works till it doesn’t, lol. Sounds like you keep a good eye on them though.
@@CichlidCharmer man that saying goes for all fish. I had some bluegill in a Central and South American tank. The biggest bluegill was the tank boss even with a Peacock Bass that was roughly the same size. Also had a huge Oscar with a Jaguar and that worked until one day when the Oscar decided to lash out. The Jag wasn't having it and in about five seconds I had an Oscar with a broken back. I didn't even have time to react. They'd been together almost 3 years prior to that.
I recently added 5 strawberry Leporinus to my Mbuna tank. They also prefer veggies and have the size, speed and demeanor to hold their own. They’ve been a great addition.
Hello can you please tell me what kind of veggies you feed and how?
I´ve had a mixed tank with mostly mbunas and 3 peacocks and have had zero issues among the two groups. It's been like these for many years.
Never had a problem either. I’ve had a mixed cichlids tank for years with no problems
I've done exactly the same works well for me too just gotta make sure they get the right diet 😉
I had a 6x2x2 with as many cichlids as I could find locally. All shapes and sizes. Big colourful flower horns and sinspilums, Oscars, electric yellows and blues, hongis, peacocks, parrots, Red Devils, frontosas and so many more I would like like a fool naming them all. 30cm+ Plecos and some smaller super expensive plecos, different types of catfish. There would always be fights, but rarely deaths.
Speaking on behalf of diet, they're loving their Colbalt Cichlid Flakes.
What’s working for me is a good quality pellet. I feed algae flakes or algae pellets in the AM, then feed them a high quality color enhancing pellet in the evenings. They seem to be thriving, hell, I even have a tropheus that is showing no signs of stress from the combination of food.
Bullshit all my fish get hikari gold haps peacocks mbuna even my tetra's and they all are healthy and do Just fine together without special vegan food
we have 2 Gouramis in our mixed aquarium. This was an emergency situation from a year ago and I am blessed with how they're getting along.
Yes, gouramis can be super mean to each other
@@CichlidCharmer The hardness level too I was happy to know they liked.
I breed peacocks with Mbuna. This is hilarious.
I didn’t know you could do that
The yellow one!!! 🔝
I have 2 parrot fish mixed in with my peacocks and haps. No problems at all. 😊
Man, you have some beautiful colors in that tank! Some ciclids I've never seen before.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you 🙏
I have no issues with mine, they get along quite well
I used to have cichlids, LOVED them. Peacocks were... mean to say the least lol. Had quite a few fish in the tank, peacock wouldn't leave anyone alone. Had to give him his own tank, which he definitely made his own space.
I keep a Half banded spiny eel with my Discus, they get along great .
I would never guess!
I have a mixed tank, 6 Malawi Peacocks with a Queen Acara, 2Texas Baloons, a lalupi and 2 Julie's and they live harmoniously together. Everyone's happy, they all eat well. No depression and 0 nipped fins. Supper happy that they all get along and are so healthy
I mixed yellow labs, auratus and blue hemichromis for years and years.
I’ve had years of success mixing and had where a peacock completely dominated the entire tank and had a kenyi that was driven to kill every tank mate. Biggest tip is watch your tank every day with cichlids.
That is the best tip!
I mix my Haps, Mbuna's, Malawi, Victoria, South American and Honduran cichlids with Tinfoil Barbs, pleco's and many other. Never had a problem with aggression.
Awesome set up, Ray is living his best life. I’m upgrading my mbuna to a 125, and I’m so tempted to put a single male Venustus in there with them, but I know it’s a bad idea lol.
Good job on reading that fish! That’s what you gotta do figure out the temperament. That’s how I chose my betta sorority 👏🙌
Thank you, Shay&Cleo! I've watched a little on betta sororities on KG Tropicals' channel. Sounds cool and challenging!
I have a tank of mostly peacocks, 5 yellow labs, 2 venustus, and a blue acei. Perfect and peaceful tank!
I had a mixed tank for 6 yrs from 2012-18 no probs
Northfin pellets
@@renu6476hikari gold sinking type good for all kind of fish been using it fo decades now for all my fish even for fry I Just crush it all my fish do Just fine on only hikari gold diet
I mix all African cichlids together and south and central cichlids they work well for me the trick is finding a good balance and having a backup plan
Ah yes, the backup plan... essential!
I got angelfish and Buenos Aires Tetras and one Flowerhorn male they have been living together for 10 years no aggression at all
That’s incredible!
I have a yellow lab,1 yellow tail acei,1 petrotilapia chitimba,1 cynotilapia zebroide jalo reef,1 albino soccolofi,2 Blood parrots,3 severums,2 macaw cichlids,1 electric blue acara,5 clown loaches along with my other 30 peacock and haps in my 8ft 300G tank and all are doing pretty well for almost a year😃…I thnk its the extraspace and the setup style which includes rocks too for the mbunas and plenty of open water swimming space for the others😁 which was the key for success…
Sounds like a great tank. I would love to see it! Almost a year is a long time to have that stability without one of them going crazy on you. Good work!
I would like to see that tank as well!!!!!
Sounds awesome
I have mbuna with peacocks and haps, mind you their not predator haps but OB and sulphur head seems to work fine as long as everyone is kept happy, heck, I even got Pictus and Raphael Catfish in that tank! Not trying to one up or correct because every tank is different but for sure I’ll put a video up on Facebook for you my friend, stay happy and healthy 😊❤
I have had a mixed malawi tank for years. 100 gallon, loads of rock work, lots of caves. Works really well for me
I got 15 guppies. A yellow lab baby hitchhiked and he's barely two inches. Now he is living with those guppies, corydoras, rainbows, tetras and denison barbs. It's been a week
Sounds like some of those will soon become snacks for the lab.
I have yellows and peacocks and giraffe hedge in my 125 but my fish was in one tank as fry so they all get together perfectly question how do you keep your water so clean I am having cloudy water problems
Thanks, man. Check this video out about getting that crystal clear water: CRYSTAL CLEAR Aquarium Water | 5 More INGENIOUS Tips!
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When I worked at a petstore a woman brought it a 4-5 inch red tail shark, which resides in one of my community tanks now. One of the most bi polar fish I have ever had. He well be chill for weeks and decide he is gonna be a pyschopath today and chase my tetras and so on.
Im gonna move him on to a 75 with tiger barbs, but for now he works surprisingly well with my cherry barbs and ember tetras. The only fish that lived in that tank he wouldnt chase was my apisto, theyd litterally eat from the same algae wafer / got along just fine.
I love red tail sharks! My favorite non-cichlid. They can be real butt heads though. Yours sounds like a challenging fellow
Yellow lab african cichlids are more mellow compared to other mbunas! My 2 yellow labs are doing great with hap, peacock, large type tetras and catfishes
Same but I have two yellow labs with my haps and peacocks Very cool
So did I till one killed the other
@@onelimbot sorry to hear that!
I had a yellow lab for 7 years. His name was mr ass. I loved him to death but his tank mates would say otherwise. He was territorial and his hide was his hide. Anyone who came near faced his wrath. I miss him a lot and today just welcomed a blue cichlid to my tank. Hopefully he is more mellow.
That’s so funny - love the name. Yeah, totally the opposite from Ray.
the dwarf synos 💕
I have 3 frontosa and 3 geophagus topajos along w congo tetras and rose line's and they all get along great...very happy healthy fish...just make sure they have plenty of room n they are good to go...mine are tank bred so water parameters are typically close as opposed to wild cought that would need very different parameters...I keep my water stable n very clean n that helps Alot as well.
Sounds like you’re on top of it!
I keep Frontosa’s too , I’ve been growing “big boy “ since he was the size of a quarter. He is about the size of a iPhone 13 Pro Max 7 years later. He was raised alone in a 75 gallon now house in a 125 with a few tank mates. I’m looking for a female to start his family. Are any of yours breeding yet
Ive mixed peacocks, labs, and literary every type of cichlids and only once lost a peacock.. But only because i put him into a 2 year old established tank that had a breeding pair of Burtoni.. besides that no issues..
I had a mixed tank for 5-6 years. Had to sell them off when I moved across the state, but my mortality rate was extremely low due to some careful stocking choices. The trick is quantity for the more aggressive ones. They'll chase each other around more than the other varieties.
I used to break the rules most of the time it worked out. I did have some problems until I worked out some necessary rules. Large tank with plenty of rock work with a few mbuna and Convict cichlid with black skirt Characin, a Hap and couple of Servums.
Mixed them for years, never had an issue. Mbuna battles mbuna for territory, and the haps only had eyes for other haps. I always made sure the peacocks were more mature, and they always held their own.
What food you give to them and how often you change your water and how much percent?
Mostly Northfin and a little Xtreme. I supplement with frozen krill and zucchini about once per week. I change the water once per week about 75%. Sometimes I will do an extra water change as well.
Ive always mixed all of my different cichlids together...you just have to have a large tank and enough areas that are set up with different rocks, plants and substrate
I have a 75 gallon fish tank with one albino tiger, Oscar, one electric blue, jack, Dempsey, and some type of yellow African Cichlid
75 gallon assortment cichlid tank with a single bala shark
people always said that but i mixed my mbuna and the mbuna had fry which i moved the mbuna were the tank bosses even though they were the smallest but everyone seemed to do just fine
beautiful color....
Thank you!
One tiger, Oscar Cichlid, three African cichlids, one white goldfish, and a huge catfish
I have a mixed cichlid tank in my 55 and so far no issues! I’m looking to add even more limestone rock so it’ll have more spots to hide! I even threw in some hornwort and I heard they might eat it which I don’t mind lol but sheesh it’s filled out more and gotten greener by the day!
I added limestone rock around Christmas time and I swear the day after one of my red zebras started holding babies in her mouth! So now I have a bunch of babies in a lil tank at the moment!
I have a tetra and barb community tank with 2 polar blue parrot fish in and they get along great
I've always mixed my mbuna with peacocks and as long as the tank isn't over crowded and large they didn't bother each other much
I have a geophagus brasiliensis in a tank with peacocks and haps doing good weirdly enough.
The pipes are the key. I have exactly 1 Mbuna work 2 peacocks and a Jack Dempsey. Mbuna loves his pipe tunnel system so he don't mind the others swimming about lol
Good to know!
My haps peacocks and mbunas get along fine. The labidochromis was tank boss until I introduced a larger maingano pair to the tank lol
Mine have been together for 2 years almost and my Ray is the one that breaks up the fights between everyone else lol
Sounds like a good boy! I don’t have any fish that break up fights. Always wanted one though
I’ve got three yellow labs pretty small, three larger peacocks, four mbunas, a red jewel and a random Texas cichlid who get along great.
That's quite an eclectic collection! Glad they're doing well!
I have three peacocks in my mbuna tank. Which I think only works because they match them in aggression. And there is plenty of hiding places and line of sight breaks.
I mixed them and I had no problems they was very clam
Had a red Zebra called Spike, ate everything that entered the aquarium
It’s because you named him Spike.
@@CichlidCharmer lol seemed funny at the time.
Yes i have a mix tank
I have a mix and they all do just fine
It works Perfect for me
Yep, you can mix Mbuna with Peacocks & Haps. Make sure your Peacocks & Haps are bigger. Mix them at a 3 to 1 ratio & you'll rarely ever have problems. Been doing it for years!
I did that with a snowflake mbuna
I've mixed a lot of different cichlids mostly Malawi & Central American cichlids with success. The only one I couldn't mix was a Lake Victorian cichlid that gauged the eyes out of a larger nicaraguense. I put him in a tank with a juvenile pair of wolf cichlids thinking the bully would be put in his place and they completely ignored him but also he did not gauge their eyes out long story short if you have a cichlid tank that works just consider yourself blessed and leave well enough alone.
Truth, brother!
I have a electric blue johanni with my peacock and haps and they are chilling😎
I've had all three and only had issues with 1 Auratus. I have a different one now that likes to chase my giant danios. lol
It works for me
Ikan yang cantik❤
I have 2 powder blue socolofi, 1 Snow White socolofi, a yellow lab mix, 2 red jewels, 3 barchardi, and a convict all in the same tank. So far so good. But people are starting to make me worry and rethink my mixture.
That’s an eclectic mix. You know what they say - it works till it doesn’t 😆
I have no trouble mixing mbuna with haps, there’s quite a few that will work, but I agree that most will not
I’m Probobly moving my 3 yellow labs into a 75 gallon and adding some peacocks
Don’t know if this is a good idea but j have a goldfish tank with a female betta. I also have another tank with a betta and his henchmen. 2 rosy reds
Usually not a good idea as goldfish like cooler waters and bettas like warmer water
Plus goldfish get pretty big (especially the single tails) and might eat the betta
I see a lot of people with mixed mbuna peacocks and haps
I wanted peackock and hap tank, but ended up ordering both due to a buy 8, get 2 free special and their peacocks were limited. They were added with the 3 mbuna and pleco i already had. I haven't lost anyone yet, but I see a lot of territorial disputes.i recently lowered the temperature per one of your suggestions😊
Hopefully it works out!
I have a mixed African Cichlid tank, even have a flowerhorn...so far all good 😊
No way - a flowerhorn? Amazing
He's not quite an adult, but he's still the biggest in the tank lol
@@Boxers6466 Better keep an eye on that guy! 😁
Peacock, imbuna, parrot, green terror, dolphon, convicts, red tail shark
Very oddball mix 😃 my red tail got beat up badly by my ACs
5 jeweled cichlids, 1 blue Groamy, 2 Kennyi cichlids, 1 tiger Oscar, 4 Crayfish, 1 kio
I have probably the most controversial setup you can have😅 I have a 75 gallon with mainly peacocks and mbuna but also have a convict and a synspilum in there with them and the only problem I’ve had in over 2 years is the convict and synspilum fight for territory but no one gets hurt or nipped. Just got very lucky I guess lol
I've tried convicts on at least 3 separate occasions and I end up with the biggest jerks on planet Earth. Same with jewel cichlids. Just can't find a nice one 🤣 One thing I've learned about keeping fish, it's taught me to not be so stubborn. I finally gave up on both species 🤣
@@poohead8022 my convict is an asshole as well😂 and I have a jewel too but he’s not bad at all. But yeah it gets tough when you get into the more aggressive fish. They do have personalities like no other though😂
I've got a yellow lab and a massive bumblebee I'm very lucky that bumblebee is docile
Yeah, they are monsters I hear!
he's the star of the ❤..
Sure is!
Every fish is different, but I've had labs and rusties bully demasoni and scolofi, the right lab would work great, but id be too afraid to mix beyond a mellow adult male lab personally (my rusties are some of the most aggressive mbuna I own so I've got a weird bias lol).
Yes I have min mixed . No problems
I keep Tropheus and I’ve always been told never to keep two colonies in the same tank, and I’ve had success with three colonies that all three breed and the young to stay in the tank to where Now there’s over 100 fish in there and I’ve got to thin them out
Pretty impressive! I had a tropheus mixed in with my boys and he took the eyes out of several of his tank mates. 👹
I have a tank with 4 mbuna’s 8 peacocks and a hand full of other African cichlids as well as an opaline blue gourami
Unique combo! Thanks for commenting!
I'm gonna try this combo with my south American Chiclids, wish me luck!!
Which ones, Bharat?
@@CichlidCharmer, severum, electric blue acara, snow white Chiclid, green terror and firemouth.
Would that work?
@@bharatnaidu4785 it’s a fairly wide gamut of aggressiveness so you’d have to be careful
@@CichlidCharmeryou are so awesome that you reply to any comment..
Mr Charmer you are a charmer in real life too.
I'll get one today and check it out for a day, if it doesn't work I'll return it
Totally my pleasure, and thank you, too!
Well I have two of them and 1 peacock and other fishes
I currently have no issues in mine 14 Mbunas 11 Peacocks even threw in 2 Firemouths and 1 Convict. Going so well I've had 3 breed breed in the same tank.
Hopefully that continues. Good job!
In Indonesian
Call his fish with "Cichlid Lemon" bacause his color is yellow like lemon bruh
I mix mbuna peacock and American cichlids they all happy lives
Very nice 🤩
hi.i have exactly the same like you in my fish tank..only one small careleus .but at the moment everthing is ok.all rest of my tank is mix haps and peacocks...and about diet ..im always mix spiruline with garlic pellets and new life spectron..
Hep, gotta make sure they get their veggies!
@@CichlidCharmer ok..i will do.👍.thnks for tips.. and congratulation for you channel....its a lot good tips ..
@@gianbarmanable you’re so welcome!
The weird fish combination I have is an albino Oscar and a clown knife fish!
Bizarre!
I had mixed mine for years and they were all fine so this isn't true. The one that I had problems with the most in a community tank was my Oscar.
I’d love an oscar.
in my 190g atm i got 5 golden labs , 3 dolphins 9 aulonacars , 7 hongis and actually the really odd one i'd have to say is my salvini cichlid he's been with them for months no issues what so ever not even a nipped fin!
I Love my mixed African, S. American Tank!
Awesome! Glad it’s working for you!
Can u pls tell me what veggies i shd feed for the mbuna???
I’m not too familiar with mbuna, but mine likes zucchini (blanched). Shelled peas are great too
I have both together both had several fry already. I have a small that chase's everyone crazy
😀
That one is the most calm of them
He really is. He does some chasing around his pipe castle but that’s all. And everyone leaves him alone
@@CichlidCharmer you need to add an Afra cobue 😅
@@jtm6671 I don’t even know what that is!
@@CichlidCharmer cynotilapia zebroides cobue
I had a yellow lab that just died yesterday.... it was with two mbunas..... just fine for months..... they all seemed fine..... yellow lab was eating just fine, one day came home and my yellow was floating.....🤷♂️..... never had a problem until now....
Oh so sad. Sorry to hear that! I’ve had fish do that overnight. Leave a perfect looking corpse too. I think they spooked and swam into a panel