I can already see her kid becoming a pilot (tragically, a child pilot)... maybe even become Zeon's version of Hathaway. Also, I thought the medic (Ony Kasuga) have some ulterior motive throughout the show. Maybe we'll see in the following seasons if there are any.
Great review and analysis video, Adam. I will add that she has survivor's guilt and a savior complex at the end of the movie. She's hellbent on ending the conflict on Earth so that her son, and others his age, will not have to be drawn into the same conflict. Sadly, we know the future of the Universal Century between the end of the One Year War and the events of MOBILE SUIT VICTORY GUNDAM. It's a grim and tragic future filled with heroes, villains, and victims on all sides of the conflicts to come.
I find this reading very... wanting. The big emphasis on ZEON DUTY and ZEON BLOOD I think is pure conjecture that is just wrong. Solari isn't shown as someone who is a diehard or fanatic throughout the series, most of her reasoning and what compels her through the story is pragmatic and moreso about survival. Further evidence in my opinion is the scene where gearhead tries to preach about this war being about Independence and when it was Solari's turn to speak on it, she was mostly disinterested and even the cinematography focused on her PoV of her looking at the picture of her family photo showing her focus is on something, survival and getting back to her son. There's a much simpler explanation that is more strongly supported by the actual show for Solari's motivations. Solari most likely wanted to save her entourage after the vision of all her allies being killed, that's true. However, she also strongly wanted to stop the Gundam pilot from fighting as well due to the newfound understanding from a newtype connection, maybe some kind of way to 'save' his soul to turn away from senseless violence and killing. This is supported by lines like 'hes just a scared little boy' and the confrontation at the end where Solari is constantly trying to talk him down and doesnt aggress on the Gundam pilot: 'we are alike you and I' 'Do you WANNA kill us?'. "We know solari could stop, could take out the Gundam EX" This is a baffling take given the Zaku is missing an arm and the Gundam is seen to take out Zakus easily with hand to hand combat and still had beam sabers. The very final scene reading on Solari is also baffling given that you dont even need to do weird head canon conjecture she DIRECTLY STATES her reasoning for staying is to prevent future wars for the children, the exact line being "For as long as there is a chance to give children a future without war, I will fight." This is an easy motive to link with her backstory as a mother and the child Gundam pilot that was taken too soon by War. The weird conjecture about ZEON DUTY and ZEON BLOOD is silly and much more flimsy. ZEON DUTY and ZEON BLOOD defining someone is quite opposite to the main theme of Gundam, people are inherently good and conflict comes from the misunderstandings between people with war being a major cause of causing good people to fight and kill each other. The idea that an inherent characteristic like Nationality or Blood would compel someone into infinite violence is... disgusting for a Gundam work and totally misses the point of the entire franchise. I think the reading is quite flawed.
The series was interesting Adam😊 Mostly very similar to Star-dust Memory 0083, and operations fairy😮But the Gundam EX looks like the EZ8 it's very close. The Zeon side of the story is what tripped out most of the Gundam fan's fm. the series. I liked the story it was interesting, It was a sad story though. It was like a Star Wars story in the Gundam series, But Netflix has its way how they make and directing movies. Good review Adam Rockon😎✌
I feel like there are two "main" types of Zeon Soldiers we see. (3 of you count Char) But it's the soldiers that believe in Zeon as a flag regardless of which family or leader they have. And those that believe that their duty is just a means to a better end. I feel Solari falls into the latter. Being more like a Visch Donahue or the Captain in Unicorn who was basically Merida's father. Where they don't try to kill for the sake of killing and winning for Zeon but to uphold their personal morals above just being a soldier for conquest.
Aside from it not being a 'happily ever after' ending, the other gripe people had with it is that it made no sense. She states she wants to end fighting but joins a group comprised of Zeon Remnants that are classified as a terrorist group. In other words, she'd be actively engaging in starting conflicts..... Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It would have made more sense if she stayed behind as part of a rescue crew to help any remaining Zeon on Earth to return to space, or join some peace keeping group that snuffs out any terrorist or unlawful actions. Heck, she still could have returned to Zeon and joined their defense force. There were plenty of other options she could have taken, but she instead picked a path that is acted on vengeance, which goes against the moral of the story,
I like subversion of expectation with the character, who is ambivalent to the cause becoming radicalized at the end, despite having a child waiting at home. It remind me of some veterans becoming more extremist in their views after their tour of duty and going on to do militia or mercenary work for the CIA or join radical groups. I like that the protagonist doesn't get a positive growth in the story, not everyone becomes better person after a heralding experience like she did. With Gundam, a happy ending for character is certainly not a sure thing, it's not always a sure thing either like Berny becoming hamburger meat in War or a meaningless sacrifice in the Pocket, Kamile becoming a vegetable at the end of Zeta. Or Casval/Char/Quatro losing faith in the cause and later joins Neo-Zeon, heck even IBO has a pretty crappy ending to them(despite being awesome). I think it's perfect as is.
Yeah i don't think this is quite correct. She was never in the war for vengeance or pride reasons. She was in it to protect. All of her steps to that point were to protect those around her. To that end the last sequence is that way because she failed to protect the one thing she wanted to and now she's fled to africa like most zeon to atone for her actions. She still herself as needing to atone for her failure and protect the kids from a future they cannot protect themselves from.
Why do you keep repeating phrases in the video like you're reusing assets for a cartoon episode? I had to double check if the video rewinded back a couple of times.
If you watched the Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory then you will know the location of the last scene.
I can already see her kid becoming a pilot (tragically, a child pilot)... maybe even become Zeon's version of Hathaway.
Also, I thought the medic (Ony Kasuga) have some ulterior motive throughout the show. Maybe we'll see in the following seasons if there are any.
Great review and analysis video, Adam.
I will add that she has survivor's guilt and a savior complex at the end of the movie.
She's hellbent on ending the conflict on Earth so that her son, and others his age, will not have to be drawn into the same conflict.
Sadly, we know the future of the Universal Century between the end of the One Year War and the events of MOBILE SUIT VICTORY GUNDAM.
It's a grim and tragic future filled with heroes, villains, and victims on all sides of the conflicts to come.
I find this reading very... wanting. The big emphasis on ZEON DUTY and ZEON BLOOD I think is pure conjecture that is just wrong. Solari isn't shown as someone who is a diehard or fanatic throughout the series, most of her reasoning and what compels her through the story is pragmatic and moreso about survival. Further evidence in my opinion is the scene where gearhead tries to preach about this war being about Independence and when it was Solari's turn to speak on it, she was mostly disinterested and even the cinematography focused on her PoV of her looking at the picture of her family photo showing her focus is on something, survival and getting back to her son.
There's a much simpler explanation that is more strongly supported by the actual show for Solari's motivations. Solari most likely wanted to save her entourage after the vision of all her allies being killed, that's true. However, she also strongly wanted to stop the Gundam pilot from fighting as well due to the newfound understanding from a newtype connection, maybe some kind of way to 'save' his soul to turn away from senseless violence and killing. This is supported by lines like 'hes just a scared little boy' and the confrontation at the end where Solari is constantly trying to talk him down and doesnt aggress on the Gundam pilot: 'we are alike you and I' 'Do you WANNA kill us?'.
"We know solari could stop, could take out the Gundam EX" This is a baffling take given the Zaku is missing an arm and the Gundam is seen to take out Zakus easily with hand to hand combat and still had beam sabers.
The very final scene reading on Solari is also baffling given that you dont even need to do weird head canon conjecture she DIRECTLY STATES her reasoning for staying is to prevent future wars for the children, the exact line being "For as long as there is a chance to give children a future without war, I will fight." This is an easy motive to link with her backstory as a mother and the child Gundam pilot that was taken too soon by War. The weird conjecture about ZEON DUTY and ZEON BLOOD is silly and much more flimsy.
ZEON DUTY and ZEON BLOOD defining someone is quite opposite to the main theme of Gundam, people are inherently good and conflict comes from the misunderstandings between people with war being a major cause of causing good people to fight and kill each other. The idea that an inherent characteristic like Nationality or Blood would compel someone into infinite violence is... disgusting for a Gundam work and totally misses the point of the entire franchise. I think the reading is quite flawed.
Wow thanks for the comment
The series was interesting Adam😊 Mostly very similar to Star-dust Memory 0083, and operations fairy😮But the Gundam EX looks like the EZ8 it's very close. The Zeon side of the story is what tripped out most of the Gundam fan's fm. the series. I liked the story it was interesting, It was a sad story though. It was like a Star Wars story in the Gundam series, But Netflix has its way how they make and directing movies. Good review Adam Rockon😎✌
I feel like there are two "main" types of Zeon Soldiers we see. (3 of you count Char) But it's the soldiers that believe in Zeon as a flag regardless of which family or leader they have. And those that believe that their duty is just a means to a better end. I feel Solari falls into the latter. Being more like a Visch Donahue or the Captain in Unicorn who was basically Merida's father. Where they don't try to kill for the sake of killing and winning for Zeon but to uphold their personal morals above just being a soldier for conquest.
Aside from it not being a 'happily ever after' ending, the other gripe people had with it is that it made no sense. She states she wants to end fighting but joins a group comprised of Zeon Remnants that are classified as a terrorist group. In other words, she'd be actively engaging in starting conflicts..... Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It would have made more sense if she stayed behind as part of a rescue crew to help any remaining Zeon on Earth to return to space, or join some peace keeping group that snuffs out any terrorist or unlawful actions. Heck, she still could have returned to Zeon and joined their defense force. There were plenty of other options she could have taken, but she instead picked a path that is acted on vengeance, which goes against the moral of the story,
I like subversion of expectation with the character, who is ambivalent to the cause becoming radicalized at the end, despite having a child waiting at home. It remind me of some veterans becoming more extremist in their views after their tour of duty and going on to do militia or mercenary work for the CIA or join radical groups. I like that the protagonist doesn't get a positive growth in the story, not everyone becomes better person after a heralding experience like she did. With Gundam, a happy ending for character is certainly not a sure thing, it's not always a sure thing either like Berny becoming hamburger meat in War or a meaningless sacrifice in the Pocket, Kamile becoming a vegetable at the end of Zeta. Or Casval/Char/Quatro losing faith in the cause and later joins Neo-Zeon, heck even IBO has a pretty crappy ending to them(despite being awesome). I think it's perfect as is.
realistically where could she even go after missing the last bus out of there?
Good question.
Good video. I enjoyed the ending. Cheer
The problem is the show feels rushed. It feels like they tried to cram to much into a few episodes and it affects the flow of the story.
Do you have an example?
Yeah i don't think this is quite correct.
She was never in the war for vengeance or pride reasons. She was in it to protect. All of her steps to that point were to protect those around her.
To that end the last sequence is that way because she failed to protect the one thing she wanted to and now she's fled to africa like most zeon to atone for her actions. She still herself as needing to atone for her failure and protect the kids from a future they cannot protect themselves from.
I think we agree then.
Why do you keep repeating phrases in the video like you're reusing assets for a cartoon episode? I had to double check if the video rewinded back a couple of times.
Sorry it bothers you! But thanks for double-checking the video. I think it helps the algorithm.