Brilliant! That's basically what I say. Them: "You're late!" Me: "For what? What did I miss?" Them: "You're expected to be here at this time." Me: "I'm here now, what do you need?" Them: "No, you need to be here when you're expected." Me: "How is that related to the work that I do?" Them: "Just please be here on time." Me: "Oh, I am. This is precisely the time I meant to be here ...give or take." Me: "Why don't you ever ask me when I'm going to leave?" Them: crickets...
They can't understand that time is not something that is an abstract that's generally ignored by us, unless we are using it as a metric of some form to accomplish another means.
purplemind93 true! I enjoy demobilizing and thinking. Sometimes those couple minutes I’m late is remembering details for the event or thinking ahead. 🤷🏽♂️ being early is difficult
The most appropriate reason for INTPs being late according to me is, cos I am mostly inside my head while doing monotonous stuffs like bathing, dressing myself up, eating...etc. So we take a lot of little-little extra time periods, and I get really late when I come back to my real life
Sankalp Bhardwaj oh my goodness, I wake up two hours before school and I'm still late even though I have a few tasks to do. I call it having time skips 😂 whilst doing each task I zone out for 10/20 mins at a time
I am actually rarely if EVER late. I am, however, not "on time". I'm usually too early. I often come too early, because I KNOW I have no grasp of time, and therefore try to ensure I have more than I need. So I'm almost always half an hour early for work, instead of 'right on time'.
I'm very aware of the time, i can usually predict the time with a lot of accuracy if i'm trying to be aware of it. When I want to relax with friends or so when the work is done i become complitelly unaware of time sometimes though.
this is most definitely me. im always overthinking how when i need to get ready, when to leave, how many minutes do i need to add on in case something happens and i arrive late. im always early to class/meetings like half an hour early too.
I am very aware of time as well, but I always choose to be way way early so I can slack of and not deal with traffic. I'll just sleep at work/school when I get there
INTPs suck at being on time, because being on time is conceding to somebody else's power and rhythm of life. INTPs are cats, you can't control them, if you try they will automatically resist. However, you can make INTPs come on time, if they like you and make them understand that being on time is an important personal emotional issue to you. Furthermore, you need to tell them, that this has nothing to do with rationality, it is just your quirk and they can show you appreciation by being on time. It is incredibly difficult for free flowing cats to be on somebody else's time, so if they will be on time somewhere, they are really exerting themselves and doing it to please you (or somebody else, who has the understanding yo explain these things to them). So if they manage to be on time, be sure to thank them. I know, this is all super weird and normal people don't function like this. But normal people are not INTPs.
As an INTP, I was chronically late everywhere I went, much to the chagrin of my ESTJ boss. It mostly had to do with control and dominion over my time. (If I had to be there at 8, and should have left the house at 7:45, I wouldn't leave the house until 7:58; those last 13 minutes belonged to me, damn it, and nobody could take them from me). What changed was my finally getting fed up with my lack of motivation, and realizing that getting to work earlier would increase my motivation in ways I couldn't yet explain. So now, my mornings have become a study in self-care: I leave the house for the coffee shop an hour early, hang out there and read for a bit, then leave for work, arriving 10-15 minutes early. And I have to say, my motivation has increased, as well as the respect from my bosses and colleagues. Feels pretty good.
I'm not on time because I've planned how to get there on time. Making the plan for an INTP is the fun part. Carrying it through the plans is left for other types. This apparent paradox happens because INTPs detach from reality more than other types.
Oh god, I'm horrible about being late. I'd say, I'm usually late if 1) I can get away with being late, 2) If it's too early in the morning for me, or 3) if I don't really think it's too important or if I dread going to it.
Omg! I didn't feel complete freedom until I got comfortable just being myself and disregarding other people's opinions of what I "should" be like. Being on time... you got me there 😂 I don't know!! 😭 I've never been able to correct this at all
He's 100% correct about INTP punctuality; I already know I'm going to be late to my own funeral! And the propensity INTPs can have to attempt becoming ESFJ to interact on a socially outgoing level to the other 96.7% of the population. An example: An INTP starts listening to pop hip hop... 1 week later is up at 2am YouTubing musical theory, downloads an electronic music producer software. Then an hour later after creating an amatuer track... Oh look at this new TH-cam video on 'Are there pyramids at the bottom of the Dead Sea'.
Ronald Thump That second part is so typical. Also, my google searches are pretty special. My last opened tab on safari is a google image search for “Orang Oetan tricycle”.
Princess Daffodil My recent searches are "how long can a name be?" (after watching a yt video about a girl with a 1000 letters name), "what is a zoomer?" (after seeing someone using that word in a comment) and "conjugation of the verb ..." (after seeing someone use that verb and not being sure if it's spelled correctly) 😁
Here's why I run late. When I'm getting ready to go, I feel like I'm in Get Stuff Done mode. And I see little things I can take care of like taking out the trash or picking up a bunch of random stuff on the floor. It's hard for me to focus on just getting ready and leaving. Especially if I'm running early. I'm like, "Oh, I have plenty of time...let me squeeze in a bunch of tasks." Then I lose track of time and am late.
STLShu i used to be when i was in my teenage years. Except for school because our bus was always late. If my theory is correct and the bus would drive as fast as my mother would it shouldve been on time, but ofcourse as an intp i dont calculate in errors. Because theoretically errors dont exist, only if the theory was not correct. What happens next is self guilt or self sympathising. Which only holds us back as we dont think about ourselves too much. I now work as an indepent person. A Psychologist to be exact. My clients are usually working full time and cant come in day time which makes it easier for me because there is no need to wake up at a certain hour just for a patient. I feel great not having to bow down to someone else and managing people at the same time.
As my own concern for others plans over my own lessens, the ratio by which I’m on time compared to late lessens as well, whoops. I guess this is growing up, lmaooo
I consider being late to be disrespectful so that gives me good motivation to be on time. I seldom arrive late to a meeting or date. However I would mostly fail to be on time when I'm the only one in the commitment (self imposed deadlines and daily schedules/plans).
I always strive to be on time.. I think its because my parents were always late for everything so I made it my mission to be extremely dependable when it comes to time.
About being late.. I value my alone time above most things and when an appointment is coming up, I like to squeeze every second of freedom before I go into work for example. So sometimes it can be hard to tear myself away from my alone time and takes mental effort to pull myself out of it.
Great content. Time is like a noncorporeal enemy with whom I'm always at a standoff lol. There's so much anxiety at the intrusion it presents into all the things I want to do that day...and I'm stuck wondering how the heck did I get myself into a commitment that I never particularly wanted to keep, when I'm generally so good at not getting into such things. The pressure builds and I relent and rush to the event - 15 minutes late. Afterwards, unfailingly, I chuckle at myself because it really wasn't so bad (the event). Usually.
Why can’t we be on time? As if that’s not a question we’ve asked ourselves a million or more times.... 1. I really try (sometimes) but in spite of everything I do ...it just never seems to work out 2. Time is a concept that is so abstract to my thinking I just can’t get my mind around it (I can go into detail about the deeper meaning of every Bob Dylan lyric but to be on time that’s just too much for my brain to comprehend) 3. Wherever it is I’m supposed to be....there’s a good chance I don’t want to be there so I’m putting it off as long as I can.
as an intp another serious problem i face is focusing. My mind starts wandering whenever people like my lecturer or even my friends start talking. Even when listening to Erik i cant seem to concentrate even when i noe tat d information might b useful to me. I guess tat is a form of laziness? My friends always say I look extremely serious n thoughtful but the truth is i am juz sort of daydreaming all d time, which is reli doing me no good:(
I have problems focusing sometimes beacuse something I from what I was listening made me think about something, or whenever I'm hearing something that interests me more like music or dome other conversation with a topic that I prefere lol.
Well, just listen to the video a couple of times. I as an INTP experience the same. Also when I went to University. But I think it's because we process information more detailed and are putting them into perspective as we get the information. So it's perfectly ok to be a little slower or unfocused when presented eith lots of info.
I really struggled with this when I was younger. I just turned 40 this year and still struggle a bit but have gotten so much better about noticing when I do it and inwardly directing myself to pay attention. I think a part of my motivation to develop my ability to pay attention is that I noticed I missed a lot of what people I cared about were saying. I want to know the people I care about and I always felt so guilty and disappointed at what I'd missed when they would share something with me and my brain went on a journey while they were talking. I got in the habit of being hyper-alert so I could be a good listener. When I was in college, I rarely went to class when I could get away with it because I knew I wasn't going to be able to pay attention anyway and I got more enjoyment by learning the subject on my own at my own pace. The primary benefit of going to class was not missing exam dates and turning in homework (which in my case was often only half done, I did not do well when homework counted toward a large portion of the grade)
We are not in time because we probebly forgot the real world for a time. I forget things all the time i get bored so easy then my brain gets going and i may have a good idea and 4h passes and i dont remeber what i did before. my time perspective is constantly changing. And for me altleast, motivation is low dont really care before i am almost late it gets me going.
I'm a fortunate INTP living in African time. Time is measured by seasons. It would be hell living in a scheduled, boxed in world of time contraints. This INTP needs wide open spaces, physically and mentally.
As an INTP, I made it about 3 minutes before I clicked on another INTP video. I then realized what I had done, and I came back to comment. I'm 32 and I'm just now finding out about myself.
Thank you! I really enjoyed the insights of your video (I am INTP female) and laughed when you asked why we are always late. I know exactly why I go late to things although I only speak for myself...I ABSOLUTELY HATE having to sit/stand around making stupid meaningless small talk with people before something starts, and the best way to avoid it is to show up when it is already underway. Once a meeting or activity starts, I am MUCH happier about being in a group when the small talk window is over.
I hate it when people make comments like, "We INTPs are never on time because..." No. Just no. Speak for yourself. The reason why I'm always late is not necessarily the reason why all other iNTPs are late. So, I will just say - without any of the silly MBTI lingo - I used to 'always' be late because I when I look at a clock I always judge wrongly how much time it takes me to get ready (or whatever). I just seem to underestimate how long something will take. My sense of direct is also a bit challenged. For me, judging time and location is difficult. But I have taught myself how to be early - not on time, but EARLY - by adding 40 mins to whatever time I think I have to leave. That way it works out for me.
That's exactly my reason as well, but I've been working on it. And I understand your point by the way, people of the same type may act similar but that doesn't mean it's the same for everyone (nor the reasoning behind it).
Real accuary, I hate people saying stupid things, overall becouse they always finish encrouching my mind or making me crazy, like if I had a virus in my mind, and at the same time I try to save, the battle lets aftermaths.
I engaged in philosophy. And I'm a nihilist. I understand existentialism - but I find that a illusion. An illusion that allows you to escape the harsh reality.
Erik sometimes when you talk I feel as though you had me in mind while brainstorming for ideas. Your videos never fail to inspire me. Thank you and hope you are well. Good vibes going your way
It would never be the same anyways. INTPs are ESFJ tricksters, not heros. Its not flow its just self defence. The INTP has given up on the tribe completely in this. They will use ESFJ charm, diplomacy, passion, and scene presence to demand others listen to them and hear their arguments.
Too painful! I'm not sure I would want to go there. I have an ESFJ colleague and I call her my nemesis. I don't think we have anything in common and we just irritate each other. Our arguments are epic though. She is a lovely person but to hang out with but not to be stuck with in work
How would an INTP acting as an ESFJ be? What would he do? I'm thinking of some moment where I acted very different of how I am and I'm not sure if that would be that I was acting like an ESFJ.
I do like the concept of "people management", just calling it that emphasise the need for careful management to ensure all interactions are as painless as possible and as concise as necessary.
Hi, interesting video :) I was just wondering about what you said about not being goal-oriented and not focusing so much on being disciplined. I am a very driven and ambitious INTP, but find that so far I've needed to develop systems to get myself to really stick to stuff. If I have a goal in mind that I know I want to achieve, isn't it better to try to commit to it rather than shifting focus and not finishing anything? If not, what are better ways for INTPs to make sure they get stuff done? Thanks :)
This is so interesting to me. Would you say your Si is really developed? Or that you're more partial to it at least? Is it easy for you to get into a routine? Because for me it's extremely difficult. I can see how a set routine would greatly benefit me, but I always end up breaking it after a while. It's like I resist the predictability of it. I think I rely on my Ne a lot, and neglect my Si. This is interesting because I don't know whether this difference within the same types is due to the level of individual maturity or due to subtypes within the types, ykwim? Because how can one INTP be a complete neat freak, while another is this dork that is always late and doesn't have a clear purpose to their life?
Hi, just saw your comment on my old comment :) I'd say so yeah, I've always been more of a neat freak than a dork hahah. On the other hand, I also struggle to stick to a very strict schedule. I'd recommend deliberately building some key habits step by step, while still making sure you get that balance right. It's easier to follow a routine you're happy with, so you've got to make sure you block time and make room for plenty of spontaneous time and time to socialize as well as 'deep work', uninterrupted blocks of time. I find that I'm the happiest and most productive when I give my Ne the time it needs to explore all kinds of topics, and do spontaneous stuff, yet still have that framework of habits and a continuous purpose/long-term project to fall back on and immerse myself into. Just make sure neither of the functions take over completely .
Maybe it's just about shifting modes sometimes. While the focused, disciplined approach works great to keep ourselves from getting overwhelmed and too absorbed, perhaps we need to schedule free time to just do whatever - silly things and create things?
Brilliant! Supreb! Erik... You are awesome! Just in the right place to revive people... Erik, thank you for sharing. Your charisma is amazing. The choice of words and the timing are astonishing... You are a gifted teacher & protagonist just the right mentor I desired to meet. I see greatness in you. Keep going. Well done. I have found the best person I wanted to know... Thank you You tube!
Got ran straight through by some girl trying to gun a yellow light yesterday, got slapped with the ticket and totaled vehicle, and have had a couple failed love interests in the past month. I’m really glad to see this video to help me assess myself from another angle and work on the problems that’ve been driving me crazy, lately, just a bit better.
Eric. Thanks. This video in particular has helped me to a. remember to be myself, and b. Pointed out why I find it hard to do sometimes. I’m starting a business and I find myself pulled by what others would want rather than being myself. Legend. Thanks mate. INTP Ne or Se subtype, M, 38
i think the best thing for any intp to do is to learn/study/major in mathematics/logic. whether it be pure mathematics (undergrad), mathematical logic (grad school), or philosophical logic. then with the rest of your time find ways to be the opposite (illogical, not make sense, be spontaneous so you can learn from illogical things from random behavior).
Another great video Erik, I'm habitualy late for appointments because of my INTP view of time, I guess that since string theory states everything is just vibrating strands of energy there relatively isn't any accurate time so how can I be late if no one knows exactly what time it IS, lol.
Fantastic observation! I have all the issues and have corrected most of them, except procrastination. I am always late to work, late to leave work, and turn in work the last minute. The only reason I am still employed is that it is public sector union job. No supervisor wants the trouble of kicking me out unless I punch someone at work in the face.
Same here, always late to arrive, late to leave, and terrible about deadlines. I work in the private sector though and think the only reason my employer tolerates this is because my work is often very good. I never think it is and it never seems complete when I run out of time and have to turn it in, but I get a lot of positive feedback (on the work, not on punctuality or social skills. One of my performance reviews where they justified not promoting me went along the lines of your work is very thorough and the quality is exceptional, but you need to work on arriving earlier and being more socially proactive 😡) and I have noticed a surprising difference between my work and the work of my peers. That being said, my peers seem a lot less stressed and manage the whole work-life balance thing much better than I do
@@humanoid1948 haha my yearly eval says pretty much the same every year; great work product but needs arriving on time, leave on time, turn in work timely. I am the only one never promoted from my training class (one gal is now below our department’s top boss). At work I only talk when I was approached. Thankfully being social is not important in my office. I have 18 more months before I plan to retire. Any regret not being promoted? No. Money and title don’t motivate me.
Well being in time for me is somehow relative . When being in time affects me and others, like having a meeting with someone , I regard being in time as some sort of respect for the other person, so I'm always in time. But, when being in time only affects me, like attending a class or something similar, I always show up late.
i was telling a friend earlier (after bring two hours late) that my mind was filled with cats and boobie traps...and then I came here...makes sense..all of it !!
I am always aware of time, in the sense that life is very short and I know I will not have enough time to do all the things I want to do and learn all the things I want to learn, but I have no feel for time unless I'm under stress. If I'm relaxed, I think it's been 10 minutes when it's actually been a half an hour. I can be on time if I feel some stress, which seems to get me out of my head and more aware of my surroundings and everything that needs to happen to make being on time a reality. However, I don't like to feel stressed, so I only let myself stress if it is really important for me to be on time
I consider myself intp and I am almost always on time, if not early. If I'm late it is because others have made me late. If I've made a date with someone, I stick to my word.
The time issue is funny, I have not worn a watch in 25 years which says a lot about what I think about time. Regarding the INTP being at their best, especially in social settings, it is important to note that we are very, very ambitious. The drive for that ambition is the key I believe. Specifically, we drive ourselves to succeed knowing full well that it is in that condition that all of our ´systems´ seem to flow together in unison. Without it they interfere and crash into each other from time to time.
I think it coincides with the fact that I subconsciously don’t want to be put in a situation where i would have to wait.. So i’d rather be late to make certain that i don’t have to. Sue me. 🤷🏽♀️
I have a small problem when I'm not told to be at work at a certain time, then I'll just show up whenever I feel like it. This was the case at my previous job. There were days few and far between where I would be asked to show up early and I'd be on time at those instances. What was different in those instances was that my managers made it a point to make it seem important to them and the company that I be there. If they don't stress importance, then I will just go in whenever I felt like. This is also similar to class times or dates. I am consistently on time to classes I care about getting a good grade in (so, basically every class). And if my boyfriend, friends, or even my mother want to set a date to meet, I'm always on time for them. When it comes to me, I never set deadlines for myself. But if I have a project I'm working on at work, personal deadlines are so important to me getting things done. When I was in elementary school I had a kitchen timer that would tick for an hour and a half, telling me to finish my homework before the ring. And it always worked for me because my mom told me it was important for me to finish before that time ran out.
Personally, I'm usually on time, but that's due to having grown up without a car and therefore having to rely on public transport. If I missed my bus/train then I might miss my appointment altogether. That aside, I am definitely becoming more 'lazy' and cutting it very fine when I do eventually leave the house. I loathe waiting around so I'll leave at the last possible moment. Plus, I'm so absentminded I lose track of time.
I suck at being early, I'm only early if I'm interested in actually going there. Or theres severe punishment for being late. The reason I'm late is that I can easily get away with it. Everyone around me is used to me being late so I dont even bother being early. Nobody scolds me anymore and even if you scold me theres still a possibility of me still not complying.
I know I can be on time if I really wanted to. And even if I miss anything I still can get the information about what I missed through guessing or other ppl. So there is no point of being on time.(or maybe just me?😂)
I dropped out of school for 2 years because i just couldnt care to learn anything there.. the teachers cant teach me if im not interested in the topic its just impossible. And now on the 2nd year of nothing ive gone through this self improvement cascade "transformation" and ive got motivation to go back to school then to university and then to work as a full stack engineer..now i sound like INTJ but i thought i'd share this since it relates to that transformation thing yeah
I'm on time most of the time and I'm intp. The reason for being late would be forget about the social event, not actually wanting to go in the first place, feeling ill, and having an emergency come up. Those are my reasons for being late when I am. Most of the time it's the first 2 reasons. Lol. When I am on time I usually end up waiting for everyone else to get there and that feels like a waste of time.
What you call that ''Goggles'' is what i Call ''Power'' Absorb(Gather Information) , Filter(Filtering those information that doesnt make sense) , Modify ( Gathering Past Info or Imagining new ideas that can connect to the topic )
Basically just make sure you have an idea about what existence is to you and what it's all about. Define the world and develop a personal understanding of things.
I'm always on time even if people think I'm late, I've already worked out how long the task will take and have planned accordingly. Weather it be work or my friendship maintenance requirements
As an INTP, I hate most surprises. I need prior warning of any changes you know of so that I can plan ahead and maybe even stay out of others' way. If you cannot consider my needs, I won't consider YOURS
I understad that INTPs are described as energetic beacuse of their curiosity(?). As an INTP myself I am not like this at all, my thinking drags all my energy out of me, but I cannot stop it unless I am in alone in a non- stimulated room.
I'm having trouble not knowing if I should share personal stuff with friends who I haven't really been close to in severel years. How to handle "sort of" friends? They keep asking me whats wrong cause Ive been MIA for a while but Im not sure what I should say... help
Hi, my friend is a male immigrant with an istp personality, I now work as a construction assistant and for August I will be faced with three job options that I have to choose, one of which is on the orders of my boss (general contractor) where I work now to be honest I I like all three and I am confused about which one can you give me a view .. ?? electrician (wiremen) carpenter (framing house) which car mechanic is more inclined with a istp personality, thank you god bless
I'm on time sometimes! Quick question, can INTPs function well in any circumstance by becoming healthy themselves, or do certain situations make it hard to function for INTPs? For example, an INTP without an outlet for problem solving other than raising children and other social contexts, I wonder if they'd have a hard time functioning well.
Mailman (until you figure out what you want). Lots of time to think while walking. Not much human interaction. Figuring out the best routes to take keeps you busy. Start whenever you wan't as long as you finish on time.
I do pest and wildlife control 25+ years ..... always changing... always challenging..... always learning Suits my brain just right.... except for that whole being on time thing
i am rarely late because i am convinced everyone will hate me if i am and i dont want to inconvenience anyone so i always leave the house even if im not ready just to make it somewhere on time
I got suspended at my previous work due to ‘habitual tardiness’, then in my new work place it doesn’t matter as long the work is done 🤣 the perfect work-life balance 😂
hi. if man likes to share his knowlegde with the whole world and even needs it and like to teach others and to help them on information-knowledge-understanding field, then who is he? can he be an intp? or intj? is it possible?
Allow me to clear up the 'I'm ALWAYS/NEVER late' debate: INTP-A (Assertive) is ALWAYS on time. INTP-T (Turbulent) are NEVER or sporadically on time, however... Assertive INTPs should not feel left out of the chain gang as it is notable that most famous INTPs were Assertive; Einstein, Mr. Microsoft and possibly you!
An INTP is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
ha!
Would you say The Queen is an INTP?
Thank You. Really.
Exactly! Even my teachers can't tell me I'm late cause they've already given up 😂
Brilliant! That's basically what I say.
Them: "You're late!"
Me: "For what? What did I miss?"
Them: "You're expected to be here at this time."
Me: "I'm here now, what do you need?"
Them: "No, you need to be here when you're expected."
Me: "How is that related to the work that I do?"
Them: "Just please be here on time."
Me: "Oh, I am. This is precisely the time I meant to be here ...give or take."
Me: "Why don't you ever ask me when I'm going to leave?"
Them: crickets...
We are "never" on time because time is not of essence, what matters is whether we show up or not.
purplemind93 im intp and I hate being late
Gregory Novikov me too but I'm always late 😐
Lol.
They can't understand that time is not something that is an abstract that's generally ignored by us, unless we are using it as a metric of some form to accomplish another means.
purplemind93 true! I enjoy demobilizing and thinking. Sometimes those couple minutes I’m late is remembering details for the event or thinking ahead. 🤷🏽♂️ being early is difficult
The most appropriate reason for INTPs being late according to me is, cos I am mostly inside my head while doing monotonous stuffs like bathing, dressing myself up, eating...etc. So we take a lot of little-little extra time periods, and I get really late when I come back to my real life
Sankalp Bhardwaj oh my goodness, I wake up two hours before school and I'm still late even though I have a few tasks to do. I call it having time skips 😂 whilst doing each task I zone out for 10/20 mins at a time
I understand that very well😊
YES this is mostly why!
THIS!!!!
I can relate to this in all different levels
I am actually rarely if EVER late. I am, however, not "on time". I'm usually too early. I often come too early, because I KNOW I have no grasp of time, and therefore try to ensure I have more than I need. So I'm almost always half an hour early for work, instead of 'right on time'.
I'm very aware of the time, i can usually predict the time with a lot of accuracy if i'm trying to be aware of it. When I want to relax with friends or so when the work is done i become complitelly unaware of time sometimes though.
That is so me! I'm either 30 minutes early or 30 minutes late. No in between. So typically, I am super early.
I'm usually right on time, give or take a minute lol
this is most definitely me. im always overthinking how when i need to get ready, when to leave, how many minutes do i need to add on in case something happens and i arrive late. im always early to class/meetings like half an hour early too.
I am very aware of time as well, but I always choose to be way way early so I can slack of and not deal with traffic. I'll just sleep at work/school when I get there
INTPs suck at being on time, because being on time is conceding to somebody else's power and rhythm of life. INTPs are cats, you can't control them, if you try they will automatically resist. However, you can make INTPs come on time, if they like you and make them understand that being on time is an important personal emotional issue to you. Furthermore, you need to tell them, that this has nothing to do with rationality, it is just your quirk and they can show you appreciation by being on time. It is incredibly difficult for free flowing cats to be on somebody else's time, so if they will be on time somewhere, they are really exerting themselves and doing it to please you (or somebody else, who has the understanding yo explain these things to them). So if they manage to be on time, be sure to thank them. I know, this is all super weird and normal people don't function like this. But normal people are not INTPs.
laakasuo ya basically
"INTPs are cats" that is extremely accurate my good sir
laakasuo Holy shit. nailed me. i wish I saw this earlier today
Cat here as an INTP
So true
As an INTP, I was chronically late everywhere I went, much to the chagrin of my ESTJ boss. It mostly had to do with control and dominion over my time. (If I had to be there at 8, and should have left the house at 7:45, I wouldn't leave the house until 7:58; those last 13 minutes belonged to me, damn it, and nobody could take them from me).
What changed was my finally getting fed up with my lack of motivation, and realizing that getting to work earlier would increase my motivation in ways I couldn't yet explain. So now, my mornings have become a study in self-care: I leave the house for the coffee shop an hour early, hang out there and read for a bit, then leave for work, arriving 10-15 minutes early.
And I have to say, my motivation has increased, as well as the respect from my bosses and colleagues. Feels pretty good.
I felt exposed by this comment.
Being late is a stressor. If you are on time (early), you can roll in at your own pace
I'm not on time because I've planned how to get there on time.
Making the plan for an INTP is the fun part. Carrying it through the plans is left for other types.
This apparent paradox happens because INTPs detach from reality more than other types.
Lol
Thus INFJ and INTP click
Oh god, I'm horrible about being late. I'd say, I'm usually late if 1) I can get away with being late, 2) If it's too early in the morning for me, or 3) if I don't really think it's too important or if I dread going to it.
Its an INTP stereotype... I have a little of it too tbh... also leaving early from lectures if i didnt like them or got bored :p
Yeah, mine's more of an avoidant tendency especially if I already have my mind made up about how something will be unpleasant or turn out badly.
Matt Wilson I am usually too early due to the fear of being late because I do get late or reach at the last minute
Ankur Banerjee i do the same .
Matt Wilson I was late today
Omg! I didn't feel complete freedom until I got comfortable just being myself and disregarding other people's opinions of what I "should" be like.
Being on time... you got me there 😂 I don't know!! 😭 I've never been able to correct this at all
He's 100% correct about INTP punctuality; I already know I'm going to be late to my own funeral! And the propensity INTPs can have to attempt becoming ESFJ to interact on a socially outgoing level to the other 96.7% of the population.
An example: An INTP starts listening to pop hip hop... 1 week later is up at 2am YouTubing musical theory, downloads an electronic music producer software. Then an hour later after creating an amatuer track... Oh look at this new TH-cam video on 'Are there pyramids at the bottom of the Dead Sea'.
::Googles for pyramids at the bottom of the Dead Sea::
Ronald Thump That second part is so typical. Also, my google searches are pretty special. My last opened tab on safari is a google image search for “Orang Oetan tricycle”.
Princess Daffodil My recent searches are "how long can a name be?" (after watching a yt video about a girl with a 1000 letters name), "what is a zoomer?" (after seeing someone using that word in a comment) and "conjugation of the verb ..." (after seeing someone use that verb and not being sure if it's spelled correctly) 😁
@@roksaan search crystal pyramid
that production thing is what I've been doing. But I am more interested in classical music composition now
Here's why I run late. When I'm getting ready to go, I feel like I'm in Get Stuff Done mode. And I see little things I can take care of like taking out the trash or picking up a bunch of random stuff on the floor. It's hard for me to focus on just getting ready and leaving. Especially if I'm running early. I'm like, "Oh, I have plenty of time...let me squeeze in a bunch of tasks." Then I lose track of time and am late.
So true lol
@@artstar4 Perfectionist, We don't have to be perfectionist at everything, It messes up our overall perfomance
Great video! I am a female INTP working on improving myself and found this to be very helpful.
Great miss....im also a young female INTP...... who needs some improvements haha
I would also like to know more female intps like you 😊
It helps to know that some things ae wired and not quirks. Things like looking for feedback to reinforce what I'm already thinking.
Am I the only INTP that is nearly always on time?
STLShu i used to be when i was in my teenage years. Except for school because our bus was always late. If my theory is correct and the bus would drive as fast as my mother would it shouldve been on time, but ofcourse as an intp i dont calculate in errors. Because theoretically errors dont exist, only if the theory was not correct. What happens next is self guilt or self sympathising. Which only holds us back as we dont think about ourselves too much. I now work as an indepent person. A Psychologist to be exact. My clients are usually working full time and cant come in day time which makes it easier for me because there is no need to wake up at a certain hour just for a patient. I feel great not having to bow down to someone else and managing people at the same time.
As my own concern for others plans over my own lessens, the ratio by which I’m on time compared to late lessens as well, whoops.
I guess this is growing up, lmaooo
I hate being late also
I consider being late to be disrespectful so that gives me good motivation to be on time. I seldom arrive late to a meeting or date.
However I would mostly fail to be on time when I'm the only one in the commitment (self imposed deadlines and daily schedules/plans).
I always strive to be on time.. I think its because my parents were always late for everything so I made it my mission to be extremely dependable when it comes to time.
About being late.. I value my alone time above most things and when an appointment is coming up, I like to squeeze every second of freedom before I go into work for example. So sometimes it can be hard to tear myself away from my alone time and takes mental effort to pull myself out of it.
Great content. Time is like a noncorporeal enemy with whom I'm always at a standoff lol. There's so much anxiety at the intrusion it presents into all the things I want to do that day...and I'm stuck wondering how the heck did I get myself into a commitment that I never particularly wanted to keep, when I'm generally so good at not getting into such things. The pressure builds and I relent and rush to the event - 15 minutes late. Afterwards, unfailingly, I chuckle at myself because it really wasn't so bad (the event). Usually.
Tomi Adewole same :-)
10/10 INTP Explanation. Being an INTP this has been the most helpful by far. Thanks Man!
Fairly accurate observations. Good video. And you are right, managing other people is the worst.
Agree.
Im always 15-20 min ahead of when Im scheduled to be somewhere. Unless its a social gathering, then i'll be a solid 1.5 hours late. :)
YES! I have the exact same thing. Do you have any idea why that is? I've been trying to figure this out for years.
Why can’t we be on time?
As if that’s not a question we’ve asked ourselves a million or more times....
1. I really try (sometimes) but in spite of everything I do ...it just never seems to work out
2. Time is a concept that is so abstract to my thinking I just can’t get my mind around it (I can go into detail about the deeper meaning of every Bob Dylan lyric but to be on time that’s just too much for my brain to comprehend)
3. Wherever it is I’m supposed to be....there’s a good chance I don’t want to be there so I’m putting it off as long as I can.
as an intp another serious problem i face is focusing. My mind starts wandering whenever people like my lecturer or even my friends start talking. Even when listening to Erik i cant seem to concentrate even when i noe tat d information might b useful to me. I guess tat is a form of laziness? My friends always say I look extremely serious n thoughtful but the truth is i am juz sort of daydreaming all d time, which is reli doing me no good:(
I have problems focusing sometimes beacuse something I from what I was listening made me think about something, or whenever I'm hearing something that interests me more like music or dome other conversation with a topic that I prefere lol.
Well, just listen to the video a couple of times. I as an INTP experience the same. Also when I went to University. But I think it's because we process information more detailed and are putting them into perspective as we get the information. So it's perfectly ok to be a little slower or unfocused when presented eith lots of info.
I really struggled with this when I was younger. I just turned 40 this year and still struggle a bit but have gotten so much better about noticing when I do it and inwardly directing myself to pay attention. I think a part of my motivation to develop my ability to pay attention is that I noticed I missed a lot of what people I cared about were saying. I want to know the people I care about and I always felt so guilty and disappointed at what I'd missed when they would share something with me and my brain went on a journey while they were talking. I got in the habit of being hyper-alert so I could be a good listener. When I was in college, I rarely went to class when I could get away with it because I knew I wasn't going to be able to pay attention anyway and I got more enjoyment by learning the subject on my own at my own pace. The primary benefit of going to class was not missing exam dates and turning in homework (which in my case was often only half done, I did not do well when homework counted toward a large portion of the grade)
We are not in time because we probebly forgot the real world for a time. I forget things all the time i get bored so easy then my brain gets going and i may have a good idea and 4h passes and i dont remeber what i did before. my time perspective is constantly changing. And for me altleast, motivation is low dont really care before i am almost late it gets me going.
I'm a fortunate INTP living in African time. Time is measured by seasons. It would be hell living in a scheduled, boxed in world of time contraints. This INTP needs wide open spaces, physically and mentally.
If this is true, I am moving to Africa
The late/on time thing comes down to hating routine so I treat my commute like a gamble or race.. out of boredom with it.
As an INTP, I made it about 3 minutes before I clicked on another INTP video. I then realized what I had done, and I came back to comment. I'm 32 and I'm just now finding out about myself.
>INTP
>Highly functioning
Hmm 🤔
Thank you! I really enjoyed the insights of your video (I am INTP female) and laughed when you asked why we are always late. I know exactly why I go late to things although I only speak for myself...I ABSOLUTELY HATE having to sit/stand around making stupid meaningless small talk with people before something starts, and the best way to avoid it is to show up when it is already underway. Once a meeting or activity starts, I am MUCH happier about being in a group when the small talk window is over.
I hate it when people make comments like, "We INTPs are never on time because..."
No. Just no. Speak for yourself. The reason why I'm always late is not necessarily the reason why all other iNTPs are late.
So, I will just say - without any of the silly MBTI lingo - I used to 'always' be late because I when I look at a clock I always judge wrongly how much time it takes me to get ready (or whatever).
I just seem to underestimate how long something will take. My sense of direct is also a bit challenged. For me, judging time and location is difficult.
But I have taught myself how to be early - not on time, but EARLY - by adding 40 mins to whatever time I think I have to leave. That way it works out for me.
C J Allison very accurate in my case anyway
@@teepark7774 Good for you.
Yep, that's another reason for my own chronic tardiness: a strangely poor grasp of how long it would take for me to get ready and arrive.
That's exactly my reason as well, but I've been working on it. And I understand your point by the way, people of the same type may act similar but that doesn't mean it's the same for everyone (nor the reasoning behind it).
I always arrive like half an hour early to the things that are really important.
Real accuary, I hate people saying stupid things, overall becouse they always finish encrouching my mind or making me crazy, like if I had a virus in my mind, and at the same time I try to save, the battle lets aftermaths.
I engaged in philosophy. And I'm a nihilist. I understand existentialism - but I find that a illusion. An illusion that allows you to escape the harsh reality.
Read Jung
Erik sometimes when you talk I feel as though you had me in mind while brainstorming for ideas. Your videos never fail to inspire me. Thank you and hope you are well. Good vibes going your way
I do have you all in my mind when I'm brainstorming. :)
I wonder how much head trauma it would take to become an ESFJ?
It would never be the same anyways. INTPs are ESFJ tricksters, not heros. Its not flow its just self defence. The INTP has given up on the tribe completely in this. They will use ESFJ charm, diplomacy, passion, and scene presence to demand others listen to them and hear their arguments.
Erik Thor If that were true, then would you be an ESTJ?
Too painful! I'm not sure I would want to go there. I have an ESFJ colleague and I call her my nemesis. I don't think we have anything in common and we just irritate each other. Our arguments are epic though. She is a lovely person but to hang out with but not to be stuck with in work
How would an INTP acting as an ESFJ be? What would he do? I'm thinking of some moment where I acted very different of how I am and I'm not sure if that would be that I was acting like an ESFJ.
Thanks, I needed this. I've been feeling so tripped up by everything, just tiny insignificant stuff everyday is so overwhelming.
I do like the concept of "people management", just calling it that emphasise the need for careful management to ensure all interactions are as painless as possible and as concise as necessary.
Hi, interesting video :) I was just wondering about what you said about not being goal-oriented and not focusing so much on being disciplined. I am a very driven and ambitious INTP, but find that so far I've needed to develop systems to get myself to really stick to stuff. If I have a goal in mind that I know I want to achieve, isn't it better to try to commit to it rather than shifting focus and not finishing anything? If not, what are better ways for INTPs to make sure they get stuff done? Thanks :)
Wish I saw a reply to this
This is so interesting to me. Would you say your Si is really developed? Or that you're more partial to it at least? Is it easy for you to get into a routine? Because for me it's extremely difficult. I can see how a set routine would greatly benefit me, but I always end up breaking it after a while. It's like I resist the predictability of it. I think I rely on my Ne a lot, and neglect my Si. This is interesting because I don't know whether this difference within the same types is due to the level of individual maturity or due to subtypes within the types, ykwim? Because how can one INTP be a complete neat freak, while another is this dork that is always late and doesn't have a clear purpose to their life?
Hi, just saw your comment on my old comment :)
I'd say so yeah, I've always been more of a neat freak than a dork hahah.
On the other hand, I also struggle to stick to a very strict schedule.
I'd recommend deliberately building some key habits step by step, while still making sure you get that balance right.
It's easier to follow a routine you're happy with, so you've got to make sure you block time and make room for plenty of spontaneous time and time to socialize as well as 'deep work', uninterrupted blocks of time. I find that I'm the happiest and most productive when I give my Ne the time it needs to explore all kinds of topics, and do spontaneous stuff, yet still have that framework of habits and a continuous purpose/long-term project to fall back on and immerse myself into. Just make sure neither of the functions take over completely .
Maybe it's just about shifting modes sometimes. While the focused, disciplined approach works great to keep ourselves from getting overwhelmed and too absorbed, perhaps we need to schedule free time to just do whatever - silly things and create things?
Brilliant! Supreb!
Erik... You are awesome!
Just in the right place to revive people... Erik, thank you for sharing. Your charisma is amazing. The choice of words and the timing are astonishing... You are a gifted teacher & protagonist just the right mentor I desired to meet.
I see greatness in you. Keep going. Well done.
I have found the best person I wanted to know... Thank you You tube!
Damn Adnan, thanks for the great feedback! Come say hi on Discord sometime: discord.gg/8HWEXrQ
I like being on time, but I have love hate relationship with deadlines. I hate them but I know it's the only thing that makes me get things done
Got ran straight through by some girl trying to gun a yellow light yesterday, got slapped with the ticket and totaled vehicle, and have had a couple failed love interests in the past month. I’m really glad to see this video to help me assess myself from another angle and work on the problems that’ve been driving me crazy, lately, just a bit better.
Eric. Thanks. This video in particular has helped me to a. remember to be myself, and b. Pointed out why I find it hard to do sometimes.
I’m starting a business and I find myself pulled by what others would want rather than being myself.
Legend. Thanks mate.
INTP Ne or Se subtype, M, 38
i think the best thing for any intp to do is to learn/study/major in mathematics/logic. whether it be pure mathematics (undergrad), mathematical logic (grad school), or philosophical logic. then with the rest of your time find ways to be the opposite (illogical, not make sense, be spontaneous so you can learn from illogical things from random behavior).
Another great video Erik, I'm habitualy late for appointments because of my INTP view of time, I guess that since string theory states everything is just vibrating strands of energy there relatively isn't any accurate time so how can I be late if no one knows exactly what time it IS, lol.
Fantastic observation! I have all the issues and have corrected most of them, except procrastination. I am always late to work, late to leave work, and turn in work the last minute. The only reason I am still employed is that it is public sector union job. No supervisor wants the trouble of kicking me out unless I punch someone at work in the face.
Same here, always late to arrive, late to leave, and terrible about deadlines. I work in the private sector though and think the only reason my employer tolerates this is because my work is often very good. I never think it is and it never seems complete when I run out of time and have to turn it in, but I get a lot of positive feedback (on the work, not on punctuality or social skills. One of my performance reviews where they justified not promoting me went along the lines of your work is very thorough and the quality is exceptional, but you need to work on arriving earlier and being more socially proactive 😡) and I have noticed a surprising difference between my work and the work of my peers. That being said, my peers seem a lot less stressed and manage the whole work-life balance thing much better than I do
@@humanoid1948 haha my yearly eval says pretty much the same every year; great work product but needs arriving on time, leave on time, turn in work timely. I am the only one never promoted from my training class (one gal is now below our department’s top boss). At work I only talk when I was approached. Thankfully being social is not important in my office. I have 18 more months before I plan to retire. Any regret not being promoted? No. Money and title don’t motivate me.
Well being in time for me is somehow relative . When being in time affects me and others, like having a meeting with someone , I regard being in time as some sort of respect for the other person, so I'm always in time. But, when being in time only affects me, like attending a class or something similar, I always show up late.
Spot on. Thanks, Erik!
I hate noise.
Thank you for introducing me to myself!
i was telling a friend earlier (after bring two hours late) that my mind was filled with cats and boobie traps...and then I came here...makes sense..all of it !!
I am always aware of time, in the sense that life is very short and I know I will not have enough time to do all the things I want to do and learn all the things I want to learn, but I have no feel for time unless I'm under stress. If I'm relaxed, I think it's been 10 minutes when it's actually been a half an hour. I can be on time if I feel some stress, which seems to get me out of my head and more aware of my surroundings and everything that needs to happen to make being on time a reality. However, I don't like to feel stressed, so I only let myself stress if it is really important for me to be on time
I consider myself intp and I am almost always on time, if not early. If I'm late it is because others have made me late. If I've made a date with someone, I stick to my word.
That VR glasses metaphor is quite spot on actually.
Thank you! I really appreciate your input and advice!
The time issue is funny, I have not worn a watch in 25 years which says a lot about what I think about time. Regarding the INTP being at their best, especially in social settings, it is important to note that we are very, very ambitious. The drive for that ambition is the key I believe. Specifically, we drive ourselves to succeed knowing full well that it is in that condition that all of our ´systems´ seem to flow together in unison. Without it they interfere and crash into each other from time to time.
yeah
tell me about me
I think it coincides with the fact that I subconsciously don’t want to be put in a situation where i would have to wait.. So i’d rather be late to make certain that i don’t have to. Sue me. 🤷🏽♀️
I have a small problem when I'm not told to be at work at a certain time, then I'll just show up whenever I feel like it. This was the case at my previous job. There were days few and far between where I would be asked to show up early and I'd be on time at those instances. What was different in those instances was that my managers made it a point to make it seem important to them and the company that I be there. If they don't stress importance, then I will just go in whenever I felt like.
This is also similar to class times or dates. I am consistently on time to classes I care about getting a good grade in (so, basically every class). And if my boyfriend, friends, or even my mother want to set a date to meet, I'm always on time for them.
When it comes to me, I never set deadlines for myself. But if I have a project I'm working on at work, personal deadlines are so important to me getting things done. When I was in elementary school I had a kitchen timer that would tick for an hour and a half, telling me to finish my homework before the ring. And it always worked for me because my mom told me it was important for me to finish before that time ran out.
As an INTP I'm always on time but usually arrive a bit later because I often don't want to be there. So I basically am consciously late.
Thank you so much for these advices. Thank you!
Personally, I'm usually on time, but that's due to having grown up without a car and therefore having to rely on public transport. If I missed my bus/train then I might miss my appointment altogether. That aside, I am definitely becoming more 'lazy' and cutting it very fine when I do eventually leave the house. I loathe waiting around so I'll leave at the last possible moment. Plus, I'm so absentminded I lose track of time.
damn this dude is spot on
I love you. Seriously.
I suck at being early, I'm only early if I'm interested in actually going there. Or theres severe punishment for being late.
The reason I'm late is that I can easily get away with it. Everyone around me is used to me being late so I dont even bother being early. Nobody scolds me anymore and even if you scold me theres still a possibility of me still not complying.
I know I can be on time if I really wanted to. And even if I miss anything I still can get the information about what I missed through guessing or other ppl. So there is no point of being on time.(or maybe just me?😂)
I dropped out of school for 2 years because i just couldnt care to learn anything there.. the teachers cant teach me if im not interested in the topic its just impossible. And now on the 2nd year of nothing ive gone through this self improvement cascade "transformation" and ive got motivation to go back to school then to university and then to work as a full stack engineer..now i sound like INTJ but i thought i'd share this since it relates to that transformation thing yeah
I think i must be an INTP, but people tell me i´m a super social guy. How do you tell if you are a social intp or an entp who loves solitude?
Man, you`re so damn right
i always proscastinate my activity
I'm on time most of the time and I'm intp. The reason for being late would be forget about the social event, not actually wanting to go in the first place, feeling ill, and having an emergency come up. Those are my reasons for being late when I am. Most of the time it's the first 2 reasons. Lol. When I am on time I usually end up waiting for everyone else to get there and that feels like a waste of time.
I can’t stand being late. Early is on time.
What you call that ''Goggles'' is what i Call ''Power''
Absorb(Gather Information)
, Filter(Filtering those information that doesnt make sense)
, Modify ( Gathering Past Info or Imagining new ideas that can connect to the topic )
Hi Erik, been loving your videos on INTP and they've been extremely insightful. Could you please elaborate on how to develop a personal philosophy?
Basically just make sure you have an idea about what existence is to you and what it's all about. Define the world and develop a personal understanding of things.
I love this. So helpful.
I'm always on time even if people think I'm late, I've already worked out how long the task will take and have planned accordingly. Weather it be work or my friendship maintenance requirements
being on time? I guess another proof I really am an INTP
You're not an INTP but you know is so well. How is that? What is your type?
As an INTP, I hate most surprises. I need prior warning of any changes you know of so that I can plan ahead and maybe even stay out of others' way. If you cannot consider my needs, I won't consider YOURS
Im a pure intp and its because i would rather do what im doing/idgas
I understad that INTPs are described as energetic beacuse of their curiosity(?). As an INTP myself I am not like this at all, my thinking drags all my energy out of me, but I cannot stop it unless I am in alone in a non- stimulated room.
this year I came back to university, and the first class was the only one of all that I was on time x'D
I'm an INTP / INTJ I'm on time always
I'm having trouble not knowing if I should share personal stuff with friends who I haven't really been close to in severel years. How to handle "sort of" friends? They keep asking me whats wrong cause Ive been MIA for a while but Im not sure what I should say... help
Hi, my friend is a male immigrant with an istp personality, I now work as a construction assistant and for August I will be faced with three job options that I have to choose, one of which is on the orders of my boss (general contractor) where I work now to be honest I I like all three and I am confused about which one can you give me a view .. ?? electrician (wiremen) carpenter (framing house) which car mechanic is more inclined with a istp personality, thank you god bless
I'm on time sometimes!
Quick question, can INTPs function well in any circumstance by becoming healthy themselves, or do certain situations make it hard to function for INTPs? For example, an INTP without an outlet for problem solving other than raising children and other social contexts, I wonder if they'd have a hard time functioning well.
Thanks for your vids!
There is no "good" or "bad". Only your Thinking makes it so.
The script of life.
Floating on a river where every molecule of water is another possibility. time makes no matter because the river takes you where it will.
I need a job (INTP)
I dunno what to do
Same.
Sales? 1.Challenging, 2.constant learning, 3.Pattern recognition in human emotion 4.massive growth opportunity
Mailman (until you figure out what you want). Lots of time to think while walking. Not much human interaction. Figuring out the best routes to take keeps you busy. Start whenever you wan't as long as you finish on time.
Sell anything you can
I do pest and wildlife control 25+ years ..... always changing... always challenging..... always learning
Suits my brain just right.... except for that whole being on time thing
We are bad at being on time because we take the scenic route! 🙃
I'm an INTP and I'm always 5-10 mins early for work/appointments.
i am rarely late because i am convinced everyone will hate me if i am and i dont want to inconvenience anyone so i always leave the house even if im not ready just to make it somewhere on time
What about managing EGO?
Do you have a How to be Highly Functioning video on ENTJs?
I want to be on time too. IDK it just happens.
I got suspended at my previous work due to ‘habitual tardiness’, then in my new work place it doesn’t matter as long the work is done 🤣 the perfect work-life balance 😂
At least I am an hour early before an ENTP.
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Do you have lupus? The heat of today seems to be inflammatory inducing. Me toooo. It is bothersome. I don't know if I have lupus though.
If you want to see a highly functional INTP just watch IdubbbzTV
yeah INTP ability to break up statements into an arguement trully outmatches any other personality even entp
hi. if man likes to share his knowlegde with the whole world and even needs it and like to teach others and to help them on information-knowledge-understanding field, then who is he? can he be an intp? or intj? is it possible?
Allow me to clear up the 'I'm ALWAYS/NEVER late' debate:
INTP-A (Assertive) is ALWAYS on time. INTP-T (Turbulent) are NEVER or sporadically on time, however...
Assertive INTPs should not feel left out of the chain gang as it is notable that most famous INTPs were Assertive; Einstein, Mr. Microsoft and possibly you!
I must say this: you are so cute. Love the norwegian accent.
Thank you dude💓💓🤩
I've always hated the stereotype of INTPs "doing nothing and dying." We can become the strongest if we're ourselves. Simple.