Well done. Perhaps you could show people how to vent a portable wood stove out almost any window (that opens), so that in a real emergency when there is no more petrol fuel, they could survive inside their house using wood. Love your channel.
for that price you can get a small cast iron bread box wood stove for a more permanent solution. fuel it the same way and the cast iron will hold the heat much longer. actually used one with a pan of ethanol soaked lava rocks as a burner and could cook on it
Wow, I just bought a tent stove for my sailboat, living in Canada we are fixated on burning wood. The double can burner and methanol is so much superior and safer. Many thanks, I’m a new big fan of what you do!
Hey Rob, Do us a favor, weigh one of your can burners empty, add fuel, reweigh it then stick it into your Vevo stove, & time how long it takes to burn empty. Depending on the fuel used, we can easily calculate the heat output of the stove and compare it to typical space heaters, furnaces, etc. For example, we know that ethanol has a Low Heat Value of 26,7 MJ per Kg (11479 BTUs per lb). And like you say, want to double your stove's output, double the number of burners.
I was reminded of the cast iron "Queenie Stove" that was a favourite stove for gypsy caravans and narrow boats. When I looked up the history recently, I found out that they were copies of an 1853 American parlour stove. The Americans considered them obsolete a long time ago, and replaced by later designs. However, in Europe they remained popular and are still going for very good money.
I’ve actually already got a titanium tent stove so this is going to be a fantastic emergency heater for me, 20 litres of methanol for £36 on Amazon and some carbon felt and I’m good to go! Thank you! 👍🏻
I made the 1702 heater with a 300ml fuel capacity, of 100% methanol, this lasted 40 -45 minutes. It took 10 mins to cool down, before it could be refiled. In one use in a room measuring 12 foot x 14 foot. It warmed the room up no problems, but the carbon dioxide meter in the room reached 88ppm. That is very high. I would not use one of these heaters without good ventilation, which kind of defeats the purpose. You can work out how long 20ltrs would last you.
@@pacman4568 Dioxide? Did you mean monoxide? Carbon dioxide isn’t harmful for humans until it gets to around 1000ppm, no need for any ventilation above normal. 250-400ppm is normal for outside spaces, 400-1000ppm is normal indoors with good ventilation.
When you put your hand over the stack it made me think of those thick ceramic flower pots which you could put over that spot for thermal mass. Even better would be to put some sand filled pots on top of the stove and one on a steel plate over the stack, maybe as thermal batteries like you've talked about in other videos. Love your channel!
@@GyomeiHimejima89 A heat (or thermal) battery is also called thermal mass. It's basically a material that absorbs heat so that later, when the heat source is removed, this mass releases it's stored heat as it tries to equalize with the ambient environment. This results in keeping the area (a room for example) warmer for a longer period of time. I know the term "battery" has electrical connotations but, like an electrical battery, it is another form of energy storage. One of my favorite examples is a "Rocket Mass Heater" where you encapsulate the exhaust apparatus of a rocket stove (similar to the ones talked about on this channel) with cobb (adobe) or other thermal absorbing material essentially making it a heated piece of furniture in your room. If you lookup rocket mass heater either hear in TH-cam or an image search there are some great diagrams and explanations. Sorry to be long winded, I just love this subject!
@The_Brink thanks for that reply. I'm in love with the subject too although fairly new. I have been looking at different ways to try and heat the room I'm in cheaper in my home due to the current rise of prices of gas etc.
@@GyomeiHimejima89 We are all in that boat these days, huh? Everyone I know has far more interest in this subject than ever before. My hope is that everyone gets through this situation safely and comes out more self-sufficient and on the other side.
I’ll be getting a load of methanol for mine to do this but I’ll still be getting a couple of elbows for the chimney to burn wood and get the smoke out the window if it comes to it. This is a great idea as long as the methanol lasts though and at £36 for 20 litres on Amazon it’s a bargain for those of us who already have tent stoves!
@My Dixie Wrecked🔨 I know, however I live in a council house. But my intention is possibly to uncover where the old coal fire was in the Living Room and put the Frontier Stove Chimney up the house Chimney and support the front body of the Frontier Stove with some bricks on a fire blanket, as the normal legs can't be folded down, it would be too high. The house started off with a coal fire, then changed to a gas fire, now the council have installed a stupid blower type electric fire, but the original hole for the coal fire is still there, just covered over with an aluminium plate, behind the fire surround. The Chimney was checked every year until the electric was put in 18 months ago, so it should be OK, as it also has a cover to prevent birds, etc going down it.
Lol everytime you review something I'm already pondering to buy! I've purchased there 8kw diesel heater and works amazing to heat my 12'x24' shop for $5cad to heat for 24 hours on lowest setting* And now I want to buy tent stove and build a sauna/steam hut made of pallets and I was looking at this model but it's nice when you can see it in real life 😉
To improve the heating, cut the sides out and insert a 4-inch pipe round or square, it doesn't matter, through the stove over the flame. Both ends of the pipe remain open, with one side 1 inch higher. The hot air in the pipe, will rise and cause hot air to flow directly into the room, use some form of heat-resistant putty to seal the pipe holes in the side of the stove if used in doors, and vent the smoke and nasty gasses outside then there are no nasty carbon fumes coming into the room from the burners. A much cheaper and longer lasting fuel would be wood.
I bought a clay chiminea and burn your can heater indoors in it at night, just for ambiance (I'm in Florida). But just one. It would be too hot otherwise. I really like your Vevor stove. It would be great to see you make a stirling fan with your cans to sit on top of it and push the heat around. You are 2/3rds of the way there with the set up you already made. I enjoy this so much.
When you build a chimney you want the next one to go inside the lower one otherwise the moisture will run down the inside and run out the joint and make a right mess.
@@twestgard2 That will only be an issue if you are burning soft woods or your wood isn't seasoned and thus not properly burning because of too much moisture in it.
@@SilvaDreams All wood contains moisture, and moreover the process of burning releases oils that condense as soon as the gases leave the wood. There’s no scenario where you want to build a chimney that dumps the creosote outside the wood stove.
@@SilvaDreams ‘perfect’ firewood isn’t always available, especially in damp countries. You get through your seasoned supply faster than normal -due to something unexpected? People burn what’s available.
@@xXxCatsnakexXx You got that right. I am semi-retired in the Republic of the Philippine Islands. We can dry wood we "scavenge" for the BBQ on our walks out in the tropical sun. The processed wood is undercover with the ends exposed to the sun. Move the wood inside our carport and it will actually pick up moisture. We have boxes of small wood pieces for a gasifier stove used for camping that we are thinking to put back outside on a tarp when the sun is shining to re-dry it for better ignition and combustion.
I was thinking of venting one of those about the same way you do with a portable AC unit, but in Canada you'll need to make that an insulation panel in itself or lose all the R-value of that window and risk it freezing open. M/Ethanol is a great option.... except I think they used it all in hand sanitizer over here
I would consider it in a pinch, but I decided to cut a hole I my roof & install a chimney instead. Triple wall stack minimum within 3 feet of the ceiling, and also coming out the roof.
@@SilvaDreams Agreed. Though, I think warnings like these are more for Karen's that will sue for damages when they inevitably do something stupid with a product. Or for parents with a "free range" view on child rearing.
There's a Bucky Fuller vibe here that seeks First Principles. The concept of Burner and Enclosure is so basic that it it isn't constrained by convention. I love it. Thank you for your time and effort.
Love it! Thank you Robert! Vevor discontinued this stove but I have purchased another from them - its design is quite a bit different - it stinks for wood frankly, the ash pan has warped! I will try this method tomorrow!
Excellent video as always! Thanks for sharing your projects! I was wondering, are you concerned about evaporated methanol igniting in the stove? I had a quarter soup can of waste oil flare up on me in a heavier wood stove with a window in the door. When the entire inside of the stove reached the flash point of the liquid, it went from a box with a flaming can in it to a box very full of fire. It was a very tense few moments while it burned off the small amount of fuel, but the window held! I'd hate to think what would have happened if that fuel got all the oxygen it was after! Maybe the vevor stove is too thin and has too much air flowing through it to reach that temperature, but my experience has made me more cautious with enclosed burning of liquid fuel. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, in an emergency, you can take the racks out of your oven, place one of these cans in side it, leaving the door slightly Open, or possibly op to about 4 of the cans at once, but be sure they are at the bottom of the oven to keep the flames off the broiler element, the uneven heat may crack it or something, I try to keep a couple large bottles of 91% alcohol for emergency heat in the winter, I can usually get by with a 500 watt heater , keeping one room warm, so hopefully the half gallon of alcohol should last a little while, keep me from freezing anyway,, it only gets below the mid 20's a few days out of the winter!
So glad you test this so we learn and know where to pick up from. My emergency heater is a diesel parking heater needing 12 v from a Lipo battery pack and solar cell. This looks better. Need to add that sterling engine as a fan to improve convection (assuming outside air is cold enough to keep the draft strong) Will look at bringing in outside air via an outside vented chimney if the fuel is changed. Never know what fuel costs next month. Need to keep the dogs (and visiting kids/friends) away from the stove.
I'm wondering how much a tray of sand or gravel on top of the stove would help to prolong heating the room before needing to change burners or adding fuel to the burners.
I think it might be time to line a motor cycle crate with insulation and have an infrared heat in it for a mini 5 minute instant warm up room . You can do jump ups in it to get the blood flowing and you will be warm to the core very quickly ! And if your really space efficient you can simply make it fold on itself to flat pack! You can get these crates from motor cycle shops for free! Be an awesome project for Luke 👍🏻 actuallly using the thick cardboard that new fridges might be even better and come with inbuilt insulation ! 👍🏻
Thanks Robert, My son and I just tried this with my tent stove. It worked very well for heating our wee workshop. I wouldn't risk using the methanol burners in the tent though, not easy to extinguish! I will need to get some carbon felt though. The sock we used started burning when the methanol ran out. lol 😆 Happy New Year to you all!
the carbon felt is absolutely the best wick for it and to put it out use another (slightly larger) can and a pair of cheap cooking tongs; hold the can upside down and put it over the flame and down over the wick. Goes out a treat.
Thanks for the video. For the money I've found the Diesel heaters (also sold by Vevor) to be most cost effective alternative heater if you have a source of Red Diesel, currently £1.35 per litre near me. Cheapest Methanol on Amazon I've found is £1.80/litre and it's not as energy dense as Diesel. Having said this, you have the advantage with this stove in that it doesn't need an exhaust or chimney to the outside.
Great idea, but i have a question! With the heat inside the stove, isn't the fuel going to heat up and instantaniously burst into flames? Just asking! Also what kind of fuel are you using? Thank you very much!
The preppers or ultralight backpackers here in the USA use a similar burner called a "cat can" which uses a cat food outer can, and a tomato paste can for the inner. 30 mL of alcohol will burn about 10-15 minutes. Methanol is about 500 BTU per US ounce. I would be interested in a way to build one of these stoves myself from common stuff.
Ha ha! Love it. Actually, we beat you to it with our Highlander tent stove. The fuel was an empty tuna tin, coiled corrugated cardboard and melted candle ends. It heated a 5m x 2m room for over an hour.
I have a tent stove for my condo (the condo is ALL electric) and have jury-rigged a method of using 3V computer fans and 6V bilge pump fans for suppling respectively fresh air at the stove door inlet and venturi low pressure vacuum to exhaust smoke fumes. The 3 and 6 volts come from backup Bluetti battery packs. I tested it in a friend’s barn and it works but it needs constant attention. Your alcohol small burners (which I have also purchased to cook with (when there is only a slight small period power outage) work very well…MY CONCERN is that when the small cans of (multi burner cans) are placed inside the stove and the stove heats up to high temperature would the liquid alcohol being stored for the wick action get so hot that it would then vapor out and cause a huge ignition… that could mean a fire and perhaps split the cans of fluid (from immense heat) and all the liquid would burn and run out all over the stove… Could you revisit the TENT STOVE USED WITH MULTIPLE ALCOHOL BURNERS over a long time and with making the stove body VERY HOT??!!
Oh nice! I have some ethanol I need to distill. Great idea for a heater. Have you ever seen the Japanese dude who makes ethanol burners out of old drinks cans? You're using a similar concept with these cans. I was thinking about making something to burn my "bad" homebrew (the heads and tails) to keep warmer and save money over winter. Thanks for the idea!
Hi! I’m curious as to if the flammable liquid enclosed in the stove might reach flashpoint temperature!?!? If that could happen, could this be dangerous? I’ve no idea if this might happen or not.
You're asking whether the burning liquid reaching its flashpoint would be dangerous? I assume you and the 5 likes have had a year of thinking to work through this conundrum...
@@Anrirua it was a rhetorical question!!!!!! Of course any flammable liquid will reach flashpoint. Trying to get people thinking about this BEFORE they assemble one.
Hey just curious about the top of the inside can. In the first version you drill a small hole in the middle to add fuel. In the second version you forgo the hole and add fuel before assembly, and in this version you take the top off all together. Have you found much difference between the versions? Was about to build the heater you made with the cake pans
Apart from extra safety, why would you put a methanol burner into that enclosure? It won’t increase heat output one jot. Also, by making the enclosed space hotter - don’t you risk boiling the methanol directly until it combusts on the inside of the can, not just the wick?
@@ThinkingandTinkering granted, but it didn’t take a £150 box to achieve it. I prefer your radiant design with the mesh mantle for the obvious reason that heating the entire room air is more costly than heating people by infrared. Thinking about it, a modest 4x4x2m room is 32 cubic metres, at roughly 1.25kg per cubic metre, 40kg of air to heat or 88lb in old money. About half an hour at 1kwhr output from 10 to 20 degrees. I think I’ve just talked myself into having a small radiant, plus a background convector!
Have you tried the stove using the candles inside it? My brother lives off grid in a truck box camper. He currently uses a similar stove vented through the roof and burns wood. The problem is once the wood burns out its very cold at night unless you get up every 2 hours. Would any of your creations burn most of the night with enough heat to make a difference?
Extra virgin olive oil used in antic candells modified using gravitation form for flow fluid continuos to burner made from fiberglass that's exist in construction domain for isolation use .
You can make to burn days in this way if you make this candells to do this . Ventilation it's need for wood . Interests if someone try to use wood for inside without to create smoke . At this,i work in this days . I want to use two engines to make a vortex and a suplimentar fluid like it's use central at oil stove .
It would interesting to stick a dozen candles in that stove and see if like a plant pot heater, it transfers the heat effectively to act as a useful very cheap running heater that doesn't need to comply with eco design regs and you can buy longer laster tealight in bulk very cheap.
Might be able to use metal tongs to remove the spent cans before allowing them to cool down. I've played around with some smelting and the crucible tongs are what I'm thinking of. Might be able to use a crucible instead of a can for the exterior of the burner, so that the tongs would be more secure for moving a very hot object. Although I'm not sure about using a crucible with that fuel. I don't think it would be an issue with a graphite crucible, except the crucible probably won't last as long as a steel can. Would need a piece or two of firebrick to set spent cans until they've had a chance to cool. That would allow for continuous heating.
I did the same thing with my NEW UNUSED Nomad wood burner about 6 weeks ago, I used bio ethanol in a bio tray. I had to rush back to my man cave as the CO2 alarm went off. When I got back the log burner the front glass was black, Im hoping it was the oils or whatever that were put on the NEW burner at production that produced the CO2. I need to try it again after having tried to burn off any pre production oils/chemicals that may have been added to the wood stove
Sorry was thinking of a greenhouse paraffin burner inside the stove ,only the base .Thinking that paraffin would last alot longer .Any suggestions are always appreciated. Btw I use my stove in a large hot tent with ventilation.
maybe add a handle to the top plate, a wire handle to lift the burners would be easy to attach, adding a T to the stove pipe will distribute the warm air lower, adding elbows can direct it to the ground, small fans in the outlets will replace the lost drawing power
Be interesting to get your thoughts on improving efficiency of regular log burners. For example, mine is and eco design and apparently 75% efficient, could adaptations be made to get 80/85?
When I clicked on this video, I thought you would show us how to exhaust a wood stove, inside a room without a chimney. How much do you pay for ethanol/methanol fuel? and how does this compare to other fuels such as diesel or firewood?
@@DavidMartin-ym2te Yes, the alcohols don't release near as much CO as a lot of other fuel sources. But they are expensive and aren't a serious, long term fix by any means. Best categorized as "for occasional, emergency type situations" imo. For a more long term solution that is cheaper, it makes sense to build an outdoor heater than can run off biomass materials. Have smoke vent outside, but have a system to capture the heat without the smoke and pipe it into the house via an insulated window insert. You want to insulate the stove as much as possible in this case, so that less heat is lost to surrounding ambient temps. For things like this, you want to get away from things like steel and move to higher temp/non oxidizing materials like clay/cob, waterglass treated basalt fiber cloth, etc. Steel can be used for structural purposes, but it shouldn't be the layer directly exposed to the fire. Putting at least a thin layer of say clay over the steel will help to prolong its life when the system is highly insulated and/or otherwise burns very hot (like a rocket stove, a well tuned gassifier, etc).
been doing this since last year.....i got one with a secondary combustion but i need to modify a baffle so all my heat dont go straight up the pipe....should be easy with a few dollar tree pans and secondary air combustion would work better anyways reburning any off-gasses possibly a bit hotter and definitely less harmful things in air and putting one of my many stove fan on top.....i also have a small square of soapstone and some flat copper plate ill use on top fits perfectly but truthfully people been burning paraffin and oils and candles for years without getting cancer or growing third testicle.......not planning on using year round just during snow storms
a lot of talk on producing heat, but insulation is money better spent. A very well insulated room can be heated & Kept warm for pennies. While a drafty place will waft away the heat as quick as you make it. Spend as much money on insulation as you possibly can, and what you can spare on a stove, and you'll be warm enough.
Simple, yet effective adaptation. We expected nothing else from you, Mr. Robert. Do you think painting it black would noticeably improve radiation emissivity?
How can I harvest the static electricity from fluid flowing thru a tube? Specifically diesel fuel in a hose. Capacitor? Those flowing water with different resistant metals like a thermocouple experiments seems relatable.
We had -28.6 + wind-chill and I almost froze my fingertips off whilst changing a tyre. I did have gloves on but had to take them off for the fiddly bits.
This brand's diesel heaters prompted me to look through their ENTIRE Amazon store. I found a whole host of products they have branded and look forward to knowing it's a quality purchase.
Could either something be placed at the outlet to catch that heat you caressed at the end? Is there enough force in that air to turn a vertical axis turbine that could double as heat source and drip charging a battery or an humble led? You could TIG weld done stainless steel rods in the chimney to absorb more heat and possibly make the air more turbulent?
Would that be able to be used inside with wood if you stick it inside an old fireplace/used to be a central heating back boiler in there but that's boxed in (if you remove the top panel to open the chimney again?) Cheers
You're going to need to butt weld the first 2 sections of pipe together so that you get the bell facing upwards. You could also try using an exhaust band clamp if you're lucky enough to have pipe that's close to exhaust pipe size. Don't forget some high temp sealant like Rutland's Seal it Right since it stays flexible during heat cycles.
@@regwatson2017 It's a wood stove and he even mentions that you can burn other things in it but you'll have to vent it. FYI, ethanol and methanol can contain water (by absorption) that will condense inside the chimney and run out on the outside of the pipe because of gravity. That's why you should invert the belled coupler and use a sealant. There are hundreds of videos on TH-cam that show tent stoves and if you look closely you'll see the water stains that run down the chimney pipe. Do you even own a tent stove? I own several.
@@rocketsurgery8337 I'm buying one ,my first .Do you have any recommendations ? Which one should I buy ? I want to use it indoors ,thanks for the good advice .
@duhhhh1723 I actually bought 2. One for my tent and the other for a dining fly. They are both Guide Gear sold by Sportsmans Guide and also sold on Amazon. I bought the smaller size since it's for a 10x12 tent. The larger one would be more suitable for heating a home, although it's not certified for that use. I'm not saying it wouldn't work. It's just not certified. My stove uses 3-1/2 stove pipe and the larger stove uses 5-1/2". I was able to buy exhaust pipe butt connectors and (2) 3-1/2" exhaust pipe that are 40" long. Longer pipes so there's less joints. I bought a tube of Rutland flexible black latex sealant to keep smoke in and rain water out. Also a can of high temp black exhaust paint so the pipe doesn't rust. I haven't put it together yet, but as soon as the weather changes I will so I can get a good 3 hour burn time in to cure the paint. Let me know if you have any questions.
I use just one of Roberts can burners in mine and It boils a kettle of water literally in 5 minutes! More money saving on gas/electric etc. I'm getting about 1-1/2 hours burning from a half can of methanol. But I'm using old cotton curtains for wicks while I wait for the carbon fibre matting to arrive. It may be better with the cfm. But if you were to enable longer burning I reckon it would cook a stew or pie in an enclosed Dutch oven style pot.
The cost of methylated spirits is now more expensive to run than having the gas central heating on. I know because I made the concrete mold rocket heater
i buy methanol 20 litres a time and make a heater with a empty can of beans filled with floral foam and 300ml of methanol and two strands of carbon felt it burns for four hours. the house heating is used only 2 hours a day.
@@wolfenstein6676 i bought it on amazon 6 small pieces for £15 though next time i'm buying a fire blanket because it's the size of a towel better value for your money. the green floral foam can be bought from hobby craft four blocks for a fiver. my 4 hour burns work out to less than 70p a time.
Dr. Smith, please reshoot this video. Add a punctured tin of beans heating up and a coffee cup warming up too. Luke could be the one bring them into the room ready for lunch. Please sir, may I have some more? Beautiful stove.
Mr. Murray-Smith, I was thinking; why put the inside can with the bottom down? Now the fuel is exposed to the flame. To me that sounds dangerous. Did I get the wrong idea from the methanol heater you made with a piece of panel from a computer case and two cake tins? I thought that one showed the inner can with its bottom up.
Couldn't hurt, from the size of it maybe some of the rectangular concrete slabs that are the size of a concrete block (16" X 8" or 40.64cm x 20.32cm) would fit in there quite well.
Hi loving these videos I have an unused broken electric effect woodburning stove would this device work inside the same of would it need venting more any ideas please
Sorry, but I’ve listened again and again, but what is the ethanol/methanol liquid being used? Is it a mixture of both - called something I can’t hear clearly? Thanks.
No. You would need a pretty good size chimney on the burners to keep them from smoking. Methylated alcohol is far better. Even isopropyl alcohol works pretty well in my experience.
That’s a slick stove! I’ve got the princess auto special but i think the small stove pipe and its location makes it a terrible stove. This one you reviewed has a bigger stack and pulls from the mid section at the back, looks to be quite superior.
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Well done. Perhaps you could show people how to vent a portable wood stove out almost any window (that opens),
so that in a real emergency when there is no more petrol fuel, they could survive inside their house using wood. Love your channel.
for that price you can get a small cast iron bread box wood stove for a more permanent solution. fuel it the same way and the cast iron will hold the heat much longer. actually used one with a pan of ethanol soaked lava rocks as a burner and could cook on it
Nice stove. A lift ring on the top would be a good improvement as you will be going in and out of the top replacing cans and re-lighting. Very nice.
Wow, I just bought a tent stove for my sailboat, living in Canada we are fixated on burning wood. The double can burner and methanol is so much superior and safer. Many thanks, I’m a new big fan of what you do!
Hello from Kalamazoo Michigan. Another project to help save humanity. What a great man!!!
Hey Rob, Do us a favor, weigh one of your can burners empty, add fuel, reweigh it then stick it into your Vevo stove, & time how long it takes to burn empty. Depending on the fuel used, we can easily calculate the heat output of the stove and compare it to typical space heaters, furnaces, etc. For example, we know that ethanol has a Low Heat Value of 26,7 MJ per Kg (11479 BTUs per lb). And like you say, want to double your stove's output, double the number of burners.
I was reminded of the cast iron "Queenie Stove" that was a favourite stove for gypsy caravans and narrow boats. When I looked up the history recently, I found out that they were copies of an 1853 American parlour stove. The Americans considered them obsolete a long time ago, and replaced by later designs. However, in Europe they remained popular and are still going for very good money.
except they were used in Europe way before 1853
When my husband watches Westerns on TV I keep an eye open for a lovely stove which appears in many of the films, but with various chimneys.
I’ve actually already got a titanium tent stove so this is going to be a fantastic emergency heater for me, 20 litres of methanol for £36 on Amazon and some carbon felt and I’m good to go! Thank you! 👍🏻
Dont drink the methanol thinking its alcohol - It can make you blind
Hi. How long would that 20 litres last you ?
Not a clue, I’d have to test it out to see.
I made the 1702 heater with a 300ml fuel capacity, of 100% methanol, this lasted 40 -45 minutes. It took 10 mins to cool down, before it could be refiled. In one use in a room measuring 12 foot x 14 foot. It warmed the room up no problems, but the carbon dioxide meter in the room reached 88ppm. That is very high. I would not use one of these heaters without good ventilation, which kind of defeats the purpose. You can work out how long 20ltrs would last you.
@@pacman4568 Dioxide? Did you mean monoxide? Carbon dioxide isn’t harmful for humans until it gets to around 1000ppm, no need for any ventilation above normal. 250-400ppm is normal for outside spaces, 400-1000ppm is normal indoors with good ventilation.
When you put your hand over the stack it made me think of those thick ceramic flower pots which you could put over that spot for thermal mass. Even better would be to put some sand filled pots on top of the stove and one on a steel plate over the stack, maybe as thermal batteries like you've talked about in other videos. Love your channel!
Good idea. A saucepan or cake tin of sand or a couple of bricks would be a great heat battery! Thanks
What is a heat battery?
@@GyomeiHimejima89 A heat (or thermal) battery is also called thermal mass. It's basically a material that absorbs heat so that later, when the heat source is removed, this mass releases it's stored heat as it tries to equalize with the ambient environment. This results in keeping the area (a room for example) warmer for a longer period of time. I know the term "battery" has electrical connotations but, like an electrical battery, it is another form of energy storage. One of my favorite examples is a "Rocket Mass Heater" where you encapsulate the exhaust apparatus of a rocket stove (similar to the ones talked about on this channel) with cobb (adobe) or other thermal absorbing material essentially making it a heated piece of furniture in your room. If you lookup rocket mass heater either hear in TH-cam or an image search there are some great diagrams and explanations. Sorry to be long winded, I just love this subject!
@The_Brink thanks for that reply. I'm in love with the subject too although fairly new. I have been looking at different ways to try and heat the room I'm in cheaper in my home due to the current rise of prices of gas etc.
@@GyomeiHimejima89 We are all in that boat these days, huh? Everyone I know has far more interest in this subject than ever before. My hope is that everyone gets through this situation safely and comes out more self-sufficient and on the other side.
Robert I think with this stove your gonna be actually saving many lives my friend 💕 so big up for you fella ,I've just shared on whatapp
Robert, you are an absolute star. Was looking at ways to convert my Frontier Stove to indoor use, if need be over the winter. Again, you are a star.
I’ll be getting a load of methanol for mine to do this but I’ll still be getting a couple of elbows for the chimney to burn wood and get the smoke out the window if it comes to it.
This is a great idea as long as the methanol lasts though and at £36 for 20 litres on Amazon it’s a bargain for those of us who already have tent stoves!
@My Dixie Wrecked🔨 I know, however I live in a council house. But my intention is possibly to uncover where the old coal fire was in the Living Room and put the Frontier Stove Chimney up the house Chimney and support the front body of the Frontier Stove with some bricks on a fire blanket, as the normal legs can't be folded down, it would be too high. The house started off with a coal fire, then changed to a gas fire, now the council have installed a stupid blower type electric fire, but the original hole for the coal fire is still there, just covered over with an aluminium plate, behind the fire surround. The Chimney was checked every year until the electric was put in 18 months ago, so it should be OK, as it also has a cover to prevent birds, etc going down it.
@My Dixie Wrecked🔨 If you are not from the UK, it is Public Housing. A property owned by the local authorities, which I pay rent for.
But it is a hole in your house.
Lol everytime you review something I'm already pondering to buy! I've purchased there 8kw diesel heater and works amazing to heat my 12'x24' shop for $5cad to heat for 24 hours on lowest setting*
And now I want to buy tent stove and build a sauna/steam hut made of pallets and I was looking at this model but it's nice when you can see it in real life 😉
To improve the heating, cut the sides out and insert a 4-inch pipe round or square, it doesn't matter, through the stove over the flame. Both ends of the pipe remain open, with one side 1 inch higher. The hot air in the pipe, will rise and cause hot air to flow directly into the room, use some form of heat-resistant putty to seal the pipe holes in the side of the stove if used in doors, and vent the smoke and nasty gasses outside then there are no nasty carbon fumes coming into the room from the burners. A much cheaper and longer lasting fuel would be wood.
Haven't even watched this video yet and I am already grinning and know it is going to be awesome. 🔥
Yep! Both comical and awesome. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🍻
lol - cheers mate
I bought a clay chiminea and burn your can heater indoors in it at night, just for ambiance (I'm in Florida). But just one. It would be too hot otherwise. I really like your Vevor stove. It would be great to see you make a stirling fan with your cans to sit on top of it and push the heat around. You are 2/3rds of the way there with the set up you already made. I enjoy this so much.
When you build a chimney you want the next one to go inside the lower one otherwise the moisture will run down the inside and run out the joint and make a right mess.
Yes, creosote specifically. Can also be fire hazard
@@twestgard2 That will only be an issue if you are burning soft woods or your wood isn't seasoned and thus not properly burning because of too much moisture in it.
@@SilvaDreams All wood contains moisture, and moreover the process of burning releases oils that condense as soon as the gases leave the wood. There’s no scenario where you want to build a chimney that dumps the creosote outside the wood stove.
@@SilvaDreams ‘perfect’ firewood isn’t always available, especially in damp countries. You get through your seasoned supply faster than normal -due to something unexpected? People burn what’s available.
@@xXxCatsnakexXx You got that right. I am semi-retired in the Republic of the Philippine Islands. We can dry wood we "scavenge" for the BBQ on our walks out in the tropical sun. The processed wood is undercover with the ends exposed to the sun. Move the wood inside our carport and it will actually pick up moisture. We have boxes of small wood pieces for a gasifier stove used for camping that we are thinking to put back outside on a tarp when the sun is shining to re-dry it for better ignition and combustion.
I use a Mexican style ceramic chimenea the same way. Coupled with a stove fan it works pretty well.
Love these videos thanks guys. I would like to point out the guy that makes so many stove videos is complaining about having a cold shop. Lol 🤣
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I've had an Anevay Frontier Stove for years and never thought of alternative fuels. Thanks, that may come in very handy if we ever get power cuts.
I was thinking of venting one of those about the same way you do with a portable AC unit, but in Canada you'll need to make that an insulation panel in itself or lose all the R-value of that window and risk it freezing open. M/Ethanol is a great option.... except I think they used it all in hand sanitizer over here
Good idea - we have quite a few bottles of Dollarama hand sanitizers
I would consider it in a pinch, but I decided to cut a hole I my roof & install a chimney instead. Triple wall stack minimum within 3 feet of the ceiling, and also coming out the roof.
Dear Rob and Luke! Awesome - this video saved me a lot of work. I now go buy one. Cheers, Fred
Don't touch it when it's hot... And please, do not eat the package! 😂
Kind of sad now days people have to be reminded of something as simple as "Fire hot" isn't it?
@@SilvaDreams Agreed. Though, I think warnings like these are more for Karen's that will sue for damages when they inevitably do something stupid with a product. Or for parents with a "free range" view on child rearing.
There's a Bucky Fuller vibe here that seeks First Principles. The concept of Burner and Enclosure is so basic that it it isn't constrained by convention. I love it. Thank you for your time and effort.
Love it! Thank you Robert! Vevor discontinued this stove but I have purchased another from them - its design is quite a bit different - it stinks for wood frankly, the ash pan has warped! I will try this method tomorrow!
Excellent video as always! Thanks for sharing your projects!
I was wondering, are you concerned about evaporated methanol igniting in the stove? I had a quarter soup can of waste oil flare up on me in a heavier wood stove with a window in the door. When the entire inside of the stove reached the flash point of the liquid, it went from a box with a flaming can in it to a box very full of fire. It was a very tense few moments while it burned off the small amount of fuel, but the window held! I'd hate to think what would have happened if that fuel got all the oxygen it was after! Maybe the vevor stove is too thin and has too much air flowing through it to reach that temperature, but my experience has made me more cautious with enclosed burning of liquid fuel.
Keep up the great work!
Love this idea .Thank you for taking the time to share.
What about just putting alcohol gel burners into and ammo can, does it have to have the little chimney?
This has just provided a way to get warm off grid.. love this channel!!!
Another home run!!! The thing I like is with using the tin can heaters, you don't have an ash bin to clean (one of my least favorite jobs...).
lol - that was my job when I was a kid - so I couldn't agree more lol
Thanks for the discount code Robert. Looking forward to receiving the stove.
cheers mate
I could see your breath when you called Luke over 😂I might try this with a stainless steel keg that I bought for $50 👍
yeah it was cold - nice idea mate
Yeah, in an emergency, you can take the racks out of your oven, place one of these cans in side it, leaving the door slightly Open, or possibly op to about 4 of the cans at once, but be sure they are at the bottom of the oven to keep the flames off the broiler element, the uneven heat may crack it or something, I try to keep a couple large bottles of 91% alcohol for emergency heat in the winter, I can usually get by with a 500 watt heater , keeping one room warm, so hopefully the half gallon of alcohol should last a little while, keep me from freezing anyway,, it only gets below the mid 20's a few days out of the winter!
I would think that 500 watt heater is hard on the electric bill, or am I missing something?
So glad you test this so we learn and know where to pick up from.
My emergency heater is a diesel parking heater needing 12 v from a Lipo battery pack and solar cell. This looks better. Need to add that sterling engine as a fan to improve convection (assuming outside air is cold enough to keep the draft strong)
Will look at bringing in outside air via an outside vented chimney if the fuel is changed. Never know what fuel costs next month.
Need to keep the dogs (and visiting kids/friends) away from the stove.
I'm wondering how much a tray of sand or gravel on top of the stove would help to prolong heating the room before needing to change burners or adding fuel to the burners.
thanks, you never cease to amaze me. I love simplicity of design.
I think it might be time to line a motor cycle crate with insulation and have an infrared heat in it for a mini 5 minute instant warm up room . You can do jump ups in it to get the blood flowing and you will be warm to the core very quickly ! And if your really space efficient you can simply make it fold on itself to flat pack! You can get these crates from motor cycle shops for free! Be an awesome project for Luke 👍🏻 actuallly using the thick cardboard that new fridges might be even better and come with inbuilt insulation ! 👍🏻
Thanks Robert, My son and I just tried this with my tent stove. It worked very well for heating our wee workshop. I wouldn't risk using the methanol burners in the tent though, not easy to extinguish! I will need to get some carbon felt though. The sock we used started burning when the methanol ran out. lol 😆 Happy New Year to you all!
could siaking in borax or salt help? i thought the wick woukd burn but last longer?
the carbon felt is absolutely the best wick for it and to put it out use another (slightly larger) can and a pair of cheap cooking tongs; hold the can upside down and put it over the flame and down over the wick. Goes out a treat.
Thanks for the video. For the money I've found the Diesel heaters (also sold by Vevor) to be most cost effective alternative heater if you have a source of Red Diesel, currently £1.35 per litre near me. Cheapest Methanol on Amazon I've found is £1.80/litre and it's not as energy dense as Diesel. Having said this, you have the advantage with this stove in that it doesn't need an exhaust or chimney to the outside.
yeah i have found the price of all day heat to be high on these tin can heaters but if it costs me £400 for the winter i am happy
Yet another amazing idea to heat a room with out costing a fortune thank you.
Fantastic tent stove also great idea 💡 👍 love your channel. By the way Merry Christmas to you both .
Great idea, but i have a question! With the heat inside the stove, isn't the fuel going to heat up and instantaniously burst into flames? Just asking! Also what kind of fuel are you using? Thank you very much!
Would burning vegetable oil have to be vented? And you could set a heat powered fan on top to blow the heat around
The preppers or ultralight backpackers here in the USA use a similar burner called a "cat can" which uses a cat food outer can, and a tomato paste can for the inner. 30 mL of alcohol will burn about 10-15 minutes. Methanol is about 500 BTU per US ounce.
I would be interested in a way to build one of these stoves myself from common stuff.
I have a very similar tent stove, is there a risk that inside the stove gets hot enough to ignite the fuel reservoir?
Liquid alcohol doesn't burn. It's the fumes that burn. And they are already ignited.
When my tent stove arrives I'm doing this! Good for deep winter back up heat. Solar air heaters work well also.
Pre burn cans outside. Plastic liner/rust coating smokes....
Ha ha! Love it. Actually, we beat you to it with our Highlander tent stove. The fuel was an empty tuna tin, coiled corrugated cardboard and melted candle ends. It heated a 5m x 2m room for over an hour.
I have a tent stove for my condo (the condo is ALL electric) and have jury-rigged a method of using 3V computer fans and 6V bilge pump fans for suppling respectively fresh air at the stove door inlet and venturi low pressure vacuum to exhaust smoke fumes. The 3 and 6 volts come from backup Bluetti battery packs. I tested it in a friend’s barn and it works but it needs constant attention. Your alcohol small burners (which I have also purchased to cook with (when there is only a slight small period power outage) work very well…MY CONCERN is that when the small cans of (multi burner cans) are placed inside the stove and the stove heats up to high temperature would the liquid alcohol being stored for the wick action get so hot that it would then vapor out and cause a huge ignition… that could mean a fire and perhaps split the cans of fluid (from immense heat) and all the liquid would burn and run out all over the stove… Could you revisit the TENT STOVE USED WITH MULTIPLE ALCOHOL BURNERS over a long time and with making the stove body VERY HOT??!!
Line the sides with heater bricks. That way it becomes a radiator
Oh nice! I have some ethanol I need to distill. Great idea for a heater. Have you ever seen the Japanese dude who makes ethanol burners out of old drinks cans? You're using a similar concept with these cans. I was thinking about making something to burn my "bad" homebrew (the heads and tails) to keep warmer and save money over winter. Thanks for the idea!
Hi! I’m curious as to if the flammable liquid enclosed in the stove might reach flashpoint temperature!?!? If that could happen, could this be dangerous? I’ve no idea if this might happen or not.
You're asking whether the burning liquid reaching its flashpoint would be dangerous? I assume you and the 5 likes have had a year of thinking to work through this conundrum...
@@Anrirua it was a rhetorical question!!!!!! Of course any flammable liquid will reach flashpoint. Trying to get people thinking about this BEFORE they assemble one.
@@jerbunch 😁🏆
Hey just curious about the top of the inside can. In the first version you drill a small hole in the middle to add fuel. In the second version you forgo the hole and add fuel before assembly, and in this version you take the top off all together. Have you found much difference between the versions? Was about to build the heater you made with the cake pans
Apart from extra safety, why would you put a methanol burner into that enclosure? It won’t increase heat output one jot. Also, by making the enclosed space hotter - don’t you risk boiling the methanol directly until it combusts on the inside of the can, not just the wick?
the extra safety is pretty important mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering granted, but it didn’t take a £150 box to achieve it. I prefer your radiant design with the mesh mantle for the obvious reason that heating the entire room air is more costly than heating people by infrared. Thinking about it, a modest 4x4x2m room is 32 cubic metres, at roughly 1.25kg per cubic metre, 40kg of air to heat or 88lb in old money. About half an hour at 1kwhr output from 10 to 20 degrees.
I think I’ve just talked myself into having a small radiant, plus a background convector!
Have you tried the stove using the candles inside it? My brother lives off grid in a truck box camper. He currently uses a similar stove vented through the roof and burns wood. The problem is once the wood burns out its very cold at night unless you get up every 2 hours. Would any of your creations burn most of the night with enough heat to make a difference?
7:06 this was a great wee giggle. Some folks just don't think, unfortunately.
Love it! What other fuels are safe? Really like not having to vent. Cheapest fuel? Is paraffin Oil safe? More videos about this please
Extra virgin olive oil used in antic candells modified using gravitation form for flow fluid continuos to burner made from fiberglass that's exist in construction domain for isolation use .
You can make to burn days in this way if you make this candells to do this . Ventilation it's need for wood . Interests if someone try to use wood for inside without to create smoke . At this,i work in this days . I want to use two engines to make a vortex and a suplimentar fluid like it's use central at oil stove .
It would interesting to stick a dozen candles in that stove and see if like a plant pot heater, it transfers the heat effectively to act as a useful very cheap running heater that doesn't need to comply with eco design regs and you can buy longer laster tealight in bulk very cheap.
Might be able to use metal tongs to remove the spent cans before allowing them to cool down. I've played around with some smelting and the crucible tongs are what I'm thinking of. Might be able to use a crucible instead of a can for the exterior of the burner, so that the tongs would be more secure for moving a very hot object. Although I'm not sure about using a crucible with that fuel. I don't think it would be an issue with a graphite crucible, except the crucible probably won't last as long as a steel can. Would need a piece or two of firebrick to set spent cans until they've had a chance to cool. That would allow for continuous heating.
You could put a can over top of that chimney and put a wood stove fan on it and have it blow that heat around.
cheers mate
I did the same thing with my NEW UNUSED Nomad wood burner about 6 weeks ago, I used bio ethanol in a bio tray. I had to rush back to my man cave as the CO2 alarm went off. When I got back the log burner the front glass was black, Im hoping it was the oils or whatever that were put on the NEW burner at production that produced the CO2. I need to try it again after having tried to burn off any pre production oils/chemicals that may have been added to the wood stove
Hi Rob, why don't you run a diesel heater in your workshop? Super cheap to run and chuck out loads of heat
There's a video of Rob taking a diesel heater apart.
He said it was easy to put bck together...but...😁
He doesn't have a chimney.
What Fuel Can I Use ..
Thank You for your Help 🙏
Sorry was thinking of a greenhouse paraffin burner inside the stove ,only the base .Thinking that paraffin would last alot longer .Any suggestions are always appreciated. Btw I use my stove in a large hot tent with ventilation.
Awesome! I'm a bit worried about the carbondioxide. Is there a way to"wash" the exhaust to make it safe to use indoors?
What type of fuel would be found in the states? With all the heat out the top a reflector might help push more across the room ?
maybe add a handle to the top plate, a wire handle to lift the burners would be easy to attach, adding a T to the stove pipe will distribute the warm air lower, adding elbows can direct it to the ground, small fans in the outlets will replace the lost drawing power
nice tips mate
clever idea. thanks for the demo👍👏👏
I bought one of these, burbed wood in it.... it didnt even get warm enough to heat water. So i might try this. Thankyou.
Be interesting to get your thoughts on improving efficiency of regular log burners. For example, mine is and eco design and apparently 75% efficient, could adaptations be made to get 80/85?
Watch his sand battery video. I think a cake tin full of sand on top of the stove would make a great heat battery. Worth a try.
When I clicked on this video, I thought you would show us how to exhaust a wood stove,
inside a room without a chimney. How much do you pay for ethanol/methanol fuel?
and how does this compare to other fuels such as diesel or firewood?
I think the difference is the fumes. Diesel or firewood need a flue but ethanol/methanol is smokeless? Not certain.
@@DavidMartin-ym2te Yes, the alcohols don't release near as much CO as a lot of other fuel sources. But they are expensive and aren't a serious, long term fix by any means. Best categorized as "for occasional, emergency type situations" imo.
For a more long term solution that is cheaper, it makes sense to build an outdoor heater than can run off biomass materials. Have smoke vent outside, but have a system to capture the heat without the smoke and pipe it into the house via an insulated window insert. You want to insulate the stove as much as possible in this case, so that less heat is lost to surrounding ambient temps.
For things like this, you want to get away from things like steel and move to higher temp/non oxidizing materials like clay/cob, waterglass treated basalt fiber cloth, etc. Steel can be used for structural purposes, but it shouldn't be the layer directly exposed to the fire. Putting at least a thin layer of say clay over the steel will help to prolong its life when the system is highly insulated and/or otherwise burns very hot (like a rocket stove, a well tuned gassifier, etc).
been doing this since last year.....i got one with a secondary combustion but i need to modify a baffle so all my heat dont go straight up the pipe....should be easy with a few dollar tree pans
and secondary air combustion would work better anyways reburning any off-gasses possibly a bit hotter and definitely less harmful things in air and putting one of my many stove fan on top.....i also have a small square of soapstone and some flat copper plate ill use on top fits perfectly
but truthfully people been burning paraffin and oils and candles for years without getting cancer or growing third testicle.......not planning on using year round just during snow storms
a lot of talk on producing heat, but insulation is money better spent. A very well insulated room can be heated & Kept warm for pennies. While a drafty place will waft away the heat as quick as you make it. Spend as much money on insulation as you possibly can, and what you can spare on a stove, and you'll be warm enough.
this!
Simple, yet effective adaptation. We expected nothing else from you, Mr. Robert.
Do you think painting it black would noticeably improve radiation emissivity?
As per one of your previous videos, you need to put a dome on top of your chimney and make it radiate so all that nice heat doesn’t go to the loft.
How can I harvest the static electricity from fluid flowing thru a tube? Specifically diesel fuel in a hose. Capacitor? Those flowing water with different resistant metals like a thermocouple experiments seems relatable.
We had -28.6 + wind-chill and I almost froze my fingertips off whilst changing a tyre. I did have gloves on but had to take them off for the fiddly bits.
This brand's diesel heaters prompted me to look through their ENTIRE Amazon store.
I found a whole host of products they have branded and look forward to knowing it's a quality purchase.
Could either something be placed at the outlet to catch that heat you caressed at the end? Is there enough force in that air to turn a vertical axis turbine that could double as heat source and drip charging a battery or an humble led? You could TIG weld done stainless steel rods in the chimney to absorb more heat and possibly make the air more turbulent?
OMG. You turned K9 into a stove!!! I’m calling the BBC.
lol
Would that be able to be used inside with wood if you stick it inside an old fireplace/used to be a central heating back boiler in there but that's boxed in (if you remove the top panel to open the chimney again?)
Cheers
You're going to need to butt weld the first 2 sections of pipe together so that you get the bell facing upwards. You could also try using an exhaust band clamp if you're lucky enough to have pipe that's close to exhaust pipe size. Don't forget some high temp sealant like Rutland's Seal it Right since it stays flexible during heat cycles.
It doesn't matter if you are burning ethanol/methanol as Robert is there.
@@regwatson2017 It's a wood stove and he even mentions that you can burn other things in it but you'll have to vent it. FYI, ethanol and methanol can contain water (by absorption) that will condense inside the chimney and run out on the outside of the pipe because of gravity. That's why you should invert the belled coupler and use a sealant. There are hundreds of videos on TH-cam that show tent stoves and if you look closely you'll see the water stains that run down the chimney pipe. Do you even own a tent stove? I own several.
@@rocketsurgery8337 I'm buying one ,my first .Do you have any recommendations ? Which one should I buy ? I want to use it indoors ,thanks for the good advice .
@duhhhh1723 I actually bought 2. One for my tent and the other for a dining fly. They are both Guide Gear sold by Sportsmans Guide and also sold on Amazon. I bought the smaller size since it's for a 10x12 tent. The larger one would be more suitable for heating a home, although it's not certified for that use. I'm not saying it wouldn't work. It's just not certified. My stove uses 3-1/2 stove pipe and the larger stove uses 5-1/2". I was able to buy exhaust pipe butt connectors and (2) 3-1/2" exhaust pipe that are 40" long. Longer pipes so there's less joints. I bought a tube of Rutland flexible black latex sealant to keep smoke in and rain water out. Also a can of high temp black exhaust paint so the pipe doesn't rust. I haven't put it together yet, but as soon as the weather changes I will so I can get a good 3 hour burn time in to cure the paint. Let me know if you have any questions.
Good info. Im looking at something similar to this Wood stove to use inside. I can't see paying 700 or more for basically the same thing
Great job Rob. Yes would be helpful regarding burn times. Probably be able to cook a tin of beans on that and more.😃😃
...or heck, like Robert almost did...maybe cook up a lil' med rare "finger" (his) steak, lol😎
I use just one of Roberts can burners in mine and It boils a kettle of water literally in 5 minutes! More money saving on gas/electric etc. I'm getting about 1-1/2 hours burning from a half can of methanol. But I'm using old cotton curtains for wicks while I wait for the carbon fibre matting to arrive. It may be better with the cfm. But if you were to enable longer burning I reckon it would cook a stew or pie in an enclosed Dutch oven style pot.
The cost of methylated spirits is now more expensive to run than having the gas central heating on. I know because I made the concrete mold rocket heater
i buy methanol 20 litres a time and make a heater with a empty can of beans filled with floral foam and 300ml of methanol and two strands of carbon felt it burns for four hours.
the house heating is used only 2 hours a day.
@@standfortruth4568 Where did you get your carbon felt from?
@@wolfenstein6676 i bought it on amazon 6 small pieces for £15 though next time i'm buying a fire blanket because it's the size of a towel better value for your money.
the green floral foam can be bought from hobby craft four blocks for a fiver.
my 4 hour burns work out to less than 70p a time.
@@standfortruth4568 I never realised that a fire blanket was made from carbon felt, thanks for the tip.
@@standfortruth4568 Cheers I just looked up the cost of methanol for 20 litres that is loads cheaper than I paid for the methelated spirits
That looks great. Well done.
What sort of lid temps are you getting? Mainly for boiling water or basic food heating in an emergency.
could you please clarify what fuel was used thank you
Gret idea! Sorry, what fuel did you use, that is safe indoors?
Dr. Smith, please reshoot this video. Add a punctured tin of beans heating up and a coffee cup warming up too. Luke could be the one bring them into the room ready for lunch. Please sir, may I have some more? Beautiful stove.
Mr. Murray-Smith, I was thinking; why put the inside can with the bottom down? Now the fuel is exposed to the flame. To me that sounds dangerous. Did I get the wrong idea from the methanol heater you made with a piece of panel from a computer case and two cake tins? I thought that one showed the inner can with its bottom up.
Any benefit to putting a couple of bricks inside for mass to store some of the heat ?
Couldn't hurt, from the size of it maybe some of the rectangular concrete slabs that are the size of a concrete block (16" X 8" or 40.64cm x 20.32cm) would fit in there quite well.
Great idea m8.
A couple of bricks won't really store much heat. You need a more significant amount of thermal mass for that.
better off putting bricks on top of stove....airflow aint that good in these tiny things
when using it with wood..... does it appear to have a second burn chamber effect to it at all?
I did not understand what you said but what FUEL were you using. Thanks.
Hi loving these videos I have an unused broken electric effect woodburning stove would this device work inside the same of would it need venting more any ideas please
Sorry, but I’ve listened again and again, but what is the ethanol/methanol liquid being used? Is it a mixture of both - called something I can’t hear clearly? Thanks.
Will a glass tube emit enough light ? Sure the tempreture of tube will be less than rocket stove
Question for research. Can you put olive oil in a diesel heater?
Can I use lamp oil in these wonderful cans? I have a tent stove and would like to use it inside in an emergency.
No. You would need a pretty good size chimney on the burners to keep them from smoking. Methylated alcohol is far better. Even isopropyl alcohol works pretty well in my experience.
Don't know if still available, a wide tin such as the old Quality Street sweets octagonal ones would make a long lasting tip resistance burner base.
That’s a slick stove! I’ve got the princess auto special but i think the small stove pipe and its location makes it a terrible stove. This one you reviewed has a bigger stack and pulls from the mid section at the back, looks to be quite superior.