Dude I really do learn a lot from watching your stuff. And I love that you have the baby lab carbon X1C so you can print stuff I didn't know there was that much stuff you could print that I'd be going and using my carbon X1C tomorrow to see what I can find a print considering it's one of the morning now I'll probably wait till tomorrow for sure lol.
Great video!, i put the 17 tooth pinion on mine with a fan, an AGFRC 55kg servo and the shocks from the xb6 and its really fast now and bulletproof. The syncro is one of my most fun cars to drive now👍🏼👍🏼
Perfect video! I was really interested to see how it performs with bigger pinion. I believe team corally makes these things undergeared for you to be less likely to break it. (I'll still be interested to see what this buggy does on 17t pinion :D )
You would have seen 17 teeth in this video but incredibly I don't have a single 17 tooth mod 1 pinion anywhere. Spent about an hour looking cuz I couldn't believe it myself given that I have like 50 pinions in a bag
@@DoRC lol, thats funny😁 by the way I saw Kevin Talbot's video about team corally sketer, there he put an 18t pinion, and as far as I understood the motor was fine even like this
@@Maxinator_RC Yeah the overall gearing as well as tire size and vehicle weight will affect how it handles different pinions but if you could with the motor mount this thing probably would be okay with 18 as long as you use a fan
I think companies under gear and also leave the diffs light on purpose. Think about people who have no experience can do silly things than blame the RC , those same people who wouldn’t notice a difference between tuned or not so it’s to much of an intricately liability. I think . Rc inherently break , so they sell them off reliably as possible. What do you think Do
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw I agree with this though at least in this case I think it's under geared more than usual. Normally when you go up a few teeth on a car you're probably going to run into heat issues without additional cooling etc. This thing at least in my fairly limited experience is still ice cold after speed runs with plus two teeth. It could still be to prevent damage but I almost wonder if it's being done more to differentiate the 4S vehicles from the 6s vehicles.
Agree, looks like the speed fix is simply a 17t pinion. Easy fix. Disappointed to hear you say the chassis is slightly bent already. Wonder if plastic would not have been a better bet for a 4s basher buggy
I wouldn't be disappointed about the chassis being bent a little bit. I took multiple hits from at least 15 ft in the air straight onto the nose. That's a pretty brutal amount of force and there are few chassis that wouldn't bend with something like that.
It’s amazing and easily better than the competition at the same price, but the undergearing is going to turn a lot of people away when even an Arrma 3s would probably run a faster pass out of the box in whatever yt videos they see.
Yeah I find the under gearing a little confusing. At least in my limited experience 15 teeth is no problem whatsoever and I am almost positive 17 will also be no problem whatsoever. Seems like a strange artificial self kneecapping and I really don't know why they did it.
Guys I need help! Just got the SYNCRO-4 and 2 packs in & it's destroyed centre diff bearings on both sides? New bearings and topped up diff with 20k diff fluid and it's getting very very hot....hotter than the motor? I'm running stock 13 tooth pinion.
20K is too thin. What's happening is the center differential is spinning internally really fast because all the power is going to the front wheels. I'd recommend 100K minimum but I like to run 1 million
Ohhh snap Kenni Will your Gama be getting that updated castle cobra8 esc🤤🧐 Not even that bothered with a motor as stock motor is great on its own So with a great esc that should be a blast 💥
@@DoRC what the Kagama isn’t ready for the cobra you telling me Kenni 🙂↕️ wow Meaning stock esc power and the like of most stock rtr esc would be best 😣 even with their upper decent echelons drivetrain That’s something
@@gonzodetroitify oh sorry the Kagama. I thought you were talking about the latest video I had made on the synchro. Sorry too many comments. I don't think the Kagama would have any trouble handling the Cobra 8.
Yeah probably, especially considering the smack talk you had in your first thumb nail about this car, you know, Arrma being Obsolete and all that? What's the stock pinion in the Typhon 3s caple of propelling the car at again???
The 3s Typhon out of the box does around 40 off-road so not really much different than this with a +2 pinion. This car beats the Typhon on center diff, steel diffs, steel axles shafts, slightly better electronics etc. It's got a lot going to for it
@@DoRC I agree, it most certainly does. It's a top car for the money. However, with the money you would have to spend on the upgrades for it (to get it going as fast as you did) you probably wouldn't be far off a Typhon 6s. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. While you're in the comments, I have a question for you: Can you use the limitless rolling chassis for only street bashing? No speed runs, would anything need changing?
@@kylarstern7627 for sure. Like I said at the end of the video you're better off just getting a 6s rig. The sweet spot for the syncro will be keeping it stock and just upgrading the pinion. The limitless can definitely be used for street bashing but it's not ideal. It's pretty low and has large front and rear overhangs so unless you're on a lretty smooth surface you'll likely end up dragging bodywork.
That's too much work to change a pinion but I think the kagama motor mount will be a tad bit wide the sketer motor would be a perfect fit for the syncro4
I think the Skeeter and Kagama use the same motor mount. I could be wrong though. I checked the mounting holes and they are identical between the synchro and the Kagama.
@django2467 ah ok. I had never actually seen that. It looks like the spark uses the same mount as the Kagama so I suspect the synchro could also use the same mount.
It's not. I checked everything with the program card and it's all as expected. Top speed isn't really affected by anything in the programming on these ESCs anyway. I suspect even with that up size it's still under geared.
I do like your upgrade videos. Thing is I’ve been doing rcs for over 30 years and I still can’t upgrade a RC in 8.5 minutes 😂 , all jokes aside , mounting the ESCs temporarily is a pita , teally have to take time run wires correctly. I like to try different setups that’s my biggest complaint time it takes and finding a way to mount ESCs . 3d printing is the way to go but I’m intimidated by that kind of stuff tbh . I was reading your comments to someone who wanted to scan . Parts . I’m thinking even though I’m not smart enough to create my own parts , enough of you guys download or I can buy the files . Have my son who’s better with computers
3D printing can be challenging but I still recommend it. Modern 3D printers from companies like Bambu lab are so much easier than printers were just a few years ago. For the most part they are just plug and play which makes things a lot easier and there are a ton of models you can download off websites like thingiverse that you don't have to do anything to just download put them in the slicer, slice with default settings and print. It's fun.
I agree. Fortunately it looks like the amount is basically the same as the spark Mount so you should be able to upgrade it fairly easily down the road if you want to. I believe that's true for most of the parts that were downgraded for the cheaper price.
Hmm That's a tough one. They are both very good vehicles. I think it just depends on whether you want a slightly larger vehicle or a slightly smaller one. I don't think you'd be disappointed in either one. Personally I'd probably pick the spark just because if I want to drive a buggy it's usually in situations where I want a smaller vehicle.
Question if you still have both, I like the looks of this more than the Spark, but if I already have a spark, do the chassis side guards and body swap over?
I don't still have the spark but I have compared the chassis in pictures and they do look the same. I suspect the side guards are the same and I don't really see any reason why the bodies wouldn't be compatible.
Yeah I think 4S with a bigger pinion is the way to go. Why it's so incredibly under geared out of the box is really a head scratcher. After back-to-back-to-back speed runs with 15 teeth The motor was still ice cold
Went to 20 tooth pinion and some tires from my 6s mojave. Definitely woke it up. But motor was pretty toast after 7000mah pack. Good fan might make it my permanent setup. Also did. 16 tooth pinion with a set of 4s trenchers. Makes it a different vehicle and ok temp wise. Don't think I'm going to attempt 20 tooth and trenchers. Maybe 18. Moral of the story Definitely undergeared. Can probably do 18 with stock everything and not overheat
Yeah it can definitely help with a lot of different vehicles though some of them will tend to have overheating problems with anything but the stock gearing. I don't think this is one of them though. It feels pretty heavily under geared out of the box.
@@DoRC nope...engine connected to gears on either side of a barrel driving two rubber tracks...gravel goes in the middle... down the barrel...no recoil...infinite ammo...
Love your content, Like the teardowns and real good looks at the cars. Keep it up!
Will do Glad you enjoy!
One of the best channel with a lot of good information. Thanks!❤
Thank you! Glad you enjoy and thanks so much for watching.
Yup I think 4s and taller gear is all it needs. It did seem to have great air control on 6s though! Great video! Thanks for pointing ut out for me!
Yeah anytime you can make a buggy do double backflips on its stock tires you know you've got some power :-)
Great RC 👍 Lots of cool stuff, Enjoy the Holidays
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Dude I really do learn a lot from watching your stuff. And I love that you have the baby lab carbon X1C so you can print stuff I didn't know there was that much stuff you could print that I'd be going and using my carbon X1C tomorrow to see what I can find a print considering it's one of the morning now I'll probably wait till tomorrow for sure lol.
There's always at least one or two things for pretty much every platform out there you can print. It's a lot of fun
Great video!, i put the 17 tooth pinion on mine with a fan, an AGFRC 55kg servo and the shocks from the xb6 and its really fast now and bulletproof. The syncro is one of my most fun cars to drive now👍🏼👍🏼
Sounds like an awesome setup!
4s, 15/17 tooth pinion and you're golden! Want 6s, do like you say, buy the Spark. Great video!
Thanks!
Perfect video! I was really interested to see how it performs with bigger pinion. I believe team corally makes these things undergeared for you to be less likely to break it. (I'll still be interested to see what this buggy does on 17t pinion :D )
You would have seen 17 teeth in this video but incredibly I don't have a single 17 tooth mod 1 pinion anywhere. Spent about an hour looking cuz I couldn't believe it myself given that I have like 50 pinions in a bag
@@DoRC lol, thats funny😁
by the way I saw Kevin Talbot's video about team corally sketer, there he put an 18t pinion, and as far as I understood the motor was fine even like this
@@Maxinator_RC Yeah the overall gearing as well as tire size and vehicle weight will affect how it handles different pinions but if you could with the motor mount this thing probably would be okay with 18 as long as you use a fan
I think companies under gear and also leave the diffs light on purpose. Think about people who have no experience can do silly things than blame the RC , those same people who wouldn’t notice a difference between tuned or not so it’s to much of an intricately liability. I think . Rc inherently break , so they sell them off reliably as possible. What do you think Do
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw I agree with this though at least in this case I think it's under geared more than usual. Normally when you go up a few teeth on a car you're probably going to run into heat issues without additional cooling etc. This thing at least in my fairly limited experience is still ice cold after speed runs with plus two teeth. It could still be to prevent damage but I almost wonder if it's being done more to differentiate the 4S vehicles from the 6s vehicles.
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Agree, looks like the speed fix is simply a 17t pinion. Easy fix. Disappointed to hear you say the chassis is slightly bent already. Wonder if plastic would not have been a better bet for a 4s basher buggy
I wouldn't be disappointed about the chassis being bent a little bit. I took multiple hits from at least 15 ft in the air straight onto the nose. That's a pretty brutal amount of force and there are few chassis that wouldn't bend with something like that.
what size spur was this pinion matched with ?
It was the stock one. I'm not sure what tooth count that is
It’s amazing and easily better than the competition at the same price, but the undergearing is going to turn a lot of people away when even an Arrma 3s would probably run a faster pass out of the box in whatever yt videos they see.
Yeah I find the under gearing a little confusing. At least in my limited experience 15 teeth is no problem whatsoever and I am almost positive 17 will also be no problem whatsoever. Seems like a strange artificial self kneecapping and I really don't know why they did it.
Guys I need help! Just got the SYNCRO-4 and 2 packs in & it's destroyed centre diff bearings on both sides? New bearings and topped up diff with 20k diff fluid and it's getting very very hot....hotter than the motor? I'm running stock 13 tooth pinion.
20K is too thin. What's happening is the center differential is spinning internally really fast because all the power is going to the front wheels. I'd recommend 100K minimum but I like to run 1 million
Ohhh snap
Kenni
Will your Gama be getting that updated castle cobra8 esc🤤🧐
Not even that bothered with a motor as stock motor is great on its own
So with a great esc that should be a blast 💥
Check my latest video :-)
@@DoRC that’s the exbkv6s v2 tho yh
@@gonzodetroitify ah. Yeah I probably won't do that. This car really isn't designed for that kind of power.
@@DoRC what the Kagama isn’t ready for the cobra you telling me Kenni 🙂↕️ wow
Meaning stock esc power and the like of most stock rtr esc would be best 😣 even with their upper decent echelons drivetrain
That’s something
@@gonzodetroitify oh sorry the Kagama. I thought you were talking about the latest video I had made on the synchro. Sorry too many comments. I don't think the Kagama would have any trouble handling the Cobra 8.
weird the esc mounted in the back😮. great bashing tho
Yeah it's not a big deal other than the fact that it's kind of far away from the receiver box. Glad you enjoyed!
Yeah probably, especially considering the smack talk you had in your first thumb nail about this car, you know, Arrma being Obsolete and all that?
What's the stock pinion in the Typhon 3s caple of propelling the car at again???
The 3s Typhon out of the box does around 40 off-road so not really much different than this with a +2 pinion.
This car beats the Typhon on center diff, steel diffs, steel axles shafts, slightly better electronics etc. It's got a lot going to for it
@@DoRC I agree, it most certainly does. It's a top car for the money. However, with the money you would have to spend on the upgrades for it (to get it going as fast as you did) you probably wouldn't be far off a Typhon 6s. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.
While you're in the comments, I have a question for you: Can you use the limitless rolling chassis for only street bashing? No speed runs, would anything need changing?
@@kylarstern7627 for sure. Like I said at the end of the video you're better off just getting a 6s rig. The sweet spot for the syncro will be keeping it stock and just upgrading the pinion.
The limitless can definitely be used for street bashing but it's not ideal. It's pretty low and has large front and rear overhangs so unless you're on a lretty smooth surface you'll likely end up dragging bodywork.
As you say near the end. The biggest problem for the syncro4 is that the spark 6S isn't that much more expensive.
At least here in the United States the spark is 50% more expensive than the synchro. That's a pretty big jump.
That's too much work to change a pinion but I think the kagama motor mount will be a tad bit wide the sketer motor would be a perfect fit for the syncro4
I think the Skeeter and Kagama use the same motor mount. I could be wrong though. I checked the mounting holes and they are identical between the synchro and the Kagama.
@DoRC the sketer motor mount uses two bolt elongated slides which is a one piece design
Whilst the kagama is a two piece design
@django2467 ah ok. I had never actually seen that. It looks like the spark uses the same mount as the Kagama so I suspect the synchro could also use the same mount.
You should try the the hobbywing quicrun motor 4068 2600kv on 4s
Honestly I think it would be better just to get the spark if you're going to start upgrading the power system.
The pinion upsize still seems slow for 4s. Maybe that lack of speed and punch might be an ESC setting. Put the program card on it.
It's not. I checked everything with the program card and it's all as expected. Top speed isn't really affected by anything in the programming on these ESCs anyway. I suspect even with that up size it's still under geared.
@@DoRC Put a 5s on it see what it do. LOL
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I do like your upgrade videos. Thing is I’ve been doing rcs for over 30 years and I still can’t upgrade a RC in 8.5 minutes 😂 , all jokes aside , mounting the ESCs temporarily is a pita , teally have to take time run wires correctly. I like to try different setups that’s my biggest complaint time it takes and finding a way to mount ESCs . 3d printing is the way to go but I’m intimidated by that kind of stuff tbh . I was reading your comments to someone who wanted to scan . Parts . I’m thinking even though I’m not smart enough to create my own parts , enough of you guys download or I can buy the files . Have my son who’s better with computers
3D printing can be challenging but I still recommend it. Modern 3D printers from companies like Bambu lab are so much easier than printers were just a few years ago. For the most part they are just plug and play which makes things a lot easier and there are a ton of models you can download off websites like thingiverse that you don't have to do anything to just download put them in the slicer, slice with default settings and print. It's fun.
Slider as adjustable mount would be way better than just holes...
I agree. Fortunately it looks like the amount is basically the same as the spark Mount so you should be able to upgrade it fairly easily down the road if you want to. I believe that's true for most of the parts that were downgraded for the cheaper price.
Do you like the spark over the asuga xlr?
Hmm That's a tough one. They are both very good vehicles. I think it just depends on whether you want a slightly larger vehicle or a slightly smaller one. I don't think you'd be disappointed in either one. Personally I'd probably pick the spark just because if I want to drive a buggy it's usually in situations where I want a smaller vehicle.
You sound like ChrisFix, the ChrisFix of RC :)
You're not the first person to say that. I don't really hear it but I'll still take it as a compliment :-)
Nice 🦇
Agreed :-) thanks for watching!
Question if you still have both, I like the looks of this more than the Spark, but if I already have a spark, do the chassis side guards and body swap over?
I don't still have the spark but I have compared the chassis in pictures and they do look the same. I suspect the side guards are the same and I don't really see any reason why the bodies wouldn't be compatible.
Last jump bent the chassis
Very slightly but not too bad.
I think this car should be a lightweight 4s car.
Yeah it's not super lightweight but it's also not crazy heavy.
Nice think im going to stick with 4s 😀
Yeah I think 4S with a bigger pinion is the way to go. Why it's so incredibly under geared out of the box is really a head scratcher. After back-to-back-to-back speed runs with 15 teeth The motor was still ice cold
@@DoRC yeah think ill stick in a 17t personally 👍
Went to 20 tooth pinion and some tires from my 6s mojave. Definitely woke it up. But motor was pretty toast after 7000mah pack. Good fan might make it my permanent setup. Also did. 16 tooth pinion with a set of 4s trenchers. Makes it a different vehicle and ok temp wise. Don't think I'm going to attempt 20 tooth and trenchers. Maybe 18. Moral of the story Definitely undergeared. Can probably do 18 with stock everything and not overheat
Yeah this thing is way under geared. Even with a bigger pinion gear and no fan the motor still stays nice and cool.
Switching to 15T (from 13) pinion on my Outcast 4SV2 really woke it up
Yeah it can definitely help with a lot of different vehicles though some of them will tend to have overheating problems with anything but the stock gearing. I don't think this is one of them though. It feels pretty heavily under geared out of the box.
I wanted to do this as well , do you recommend the 15t i have the kraton 4s v2
Overall no much different to the radix6 that I love but I do believe 4s is perfect for it
Yeah there are some differences but it is very similar. I agree that 4S is the sweet spot for this. If you want 6s just get a 6S buggy.
@@DoRC 👍😎 agreed
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Typhon vs synchro?
Syncro over 3s Typhon all day long.
Bigger pinion did the trick. 17t on road would crack 50mph no problem.
Did you have to drill out the mesh holes? WTF???
Yeah I did. I'm really not sure what the deal with that is though it's pretty easy to do.
Not sure the point of buying a new 4 s buggy then ripping it to bits to make it 6s .. just buy a 6s save the aggro
As stated at the end of the video:)
And then he put MT tires on it …
Monster buggies are awesome!
Looks slow, my 3s typhon looks quicker
Typhon 3s does around 40 out the box off-road so not a huge difference.
Know where near
@@jakelang4387 I think you'd be surprised. The 3s typhon only does around 40 miles an hour off-road out of the box.
Would be so easy to turn that into a gravel launcher...
What's a gravel launcher?
@@DoRC using the engine to drive two tracks and shoot gravel down the middle of a barrel...
@@troyhayder6986 still struggling to picture this. You have a video of it?
@@DoRC nope...engine connected to gears on either side of a barrel driving two rubber tracks...gravel goes in the middle... down the barrel...no recoil...infinite ammo...
@@troyhayder6986 ahh. I get it now. Sort of like a baseball launcher.