Tractor spec sheets are stinken complicated
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Confused by tractor specs? Let's cut through the marketing jargon to help you understand what the numbers REALLY mean.
Learn about:
Loader specs (lift capacity, breakout force)
Engine horsepower (gross vs. PTO)
Hydraulics, drivetrain, & weight
Backhoe attachments (dig depth, etc.)
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The actual dig depth on a backhoe that I always quoted was “it will dig down until the ground gets too hard.” I’ve used a comparable B26 size backhoe and the larger L series backhoes during a hot dry summer in Missouri ( clay-based soil) and I could only get down to about 20” deep. If I pushed down with the boom, the backhoe picked up the rear of the tractor (because these are all compact - light weight machines). I could scratch the bottom of the trench with the bucket teeth and get a little powder dirt but that would be all. Just be aware - you can only dig until the ground gets too hard; regardless if the spec sheet says 7 foot or whatever.
Outstanding presentation! I was at least vaguely familiar with most of this content, but only because of 25+ years of fooling around with a couple of different machines, learning mostly from my mistakes. For someone new to the tractor world this video should be mandatory viewing.
You mentioned the curl capacity or roll back capacity on a loader, experienced this during this past weekend. I bought a 28 ton log splitter, and it was delivered on Friday. They had a lift gate on the delivery truck, so they got it to the ground, my job after that was to manage to get it onto the carport somehow. The log splitter/crate weight was 540 pounds. I have the Kubota BX2680 tractor, and as we all know lift capacity is not what they're known for. After the semi-truck was gone I was able to get the tractor with the pallet forks and picked up that crate and got it onto the carport so I could start assembling it. I was only able to lift it about 18 inches off the ground, mostly because I was able to curl back pushing the weight up against the backstop of the pallet fork frame. I was amazed that the BX actually lifted it, I figured at least if I could get enough pressure under the crate to be able to slide it or push it, but the tractor was able to actually lift it....this is with a set of Titan pallet forks with 42" forks....I wish I could get a set of sub-compact forks as I know they weigh quite a bit less, but even with those heavier forks it lifted that crate. So that curl back function makes a huge difference in moving something heavy.
i haver not watched the channel for a few months, but this was a great video and reminds me what I have liked your videos for 7+ years. Aways clear and without alot of bias. Thanks again Neil!
Great video, Neil! I wonder if you know how many tractors you have sold that haven't come from your dealership?
All the information you put out there makes us more informed purchasers, but that doesn't necessarily translate to money in your pocket. And that's what I appreciate most about your videos! You are doing us purchasers a huge service by putting these videos out. Thank you, Neil!!
What's the timeline for opening up a location of Messick's equipment in Washington State?😉
Great video, as always.
Fantastic video Neil. You did a great job explaining everything. I learned so much about how different manufacturers can tweak the numbers. Thanks
Very well explained. Great service you have done
Looking forward to your Clarkson’s Farm series 3 review!
Excellent video and awesome tips Neil!
Buyer beware! Highly informative video. Thank you for doing g this.
Another excellent video Neil, thank you for sharing these informative videos 👍👍🇺🇸
Thank you.
I learned a bunch
Very satisfied with my B2650.
It exceeded the claimed specifications and the balance of the hydraulic’s is better than any other brand I tested
A good example of C.I.D. and horsepower is the L2502 and BX 2680. The bx makes its power at high rpm ( small displacement ) and the L2502 is low rpm. The L2502 will run many more hours at rated power than the BX.
Thank you!!!
Sorry I'm going to call something out. I have a BX23s. There is only one hydraulic pump on it. During certain applications, I wish it had two separate pumps.
This varies based on the size of the machine.
Otherwise a great video!
My M7060 has 2 mounting locations for the loader hyd arms. One for max lift, one for max power.
yea, love that feature
Rated lift is one of the biggest places some manufacturers cheat. A lot of the Korean tractors have high lift specs but then you find out they have stubby loader arms or short cylinders and their max height is 10-15" lower than brands like Kubota and Deere. Very misleading.
There is even similar confusion within Kubota's lineup -- the loader on the LX series is actually rated with higher lift capacity than the L series. But then you realize the LX series max lift height is about 10" lower. Taken at that lower point, the L would have higher capacity numbers. Kubota even confuses their own customers with inconsistent standards. It's a mess for sure.
Great example with the L and LX. There should be a standard height to measure the lift weight like 6 or 8 feet since the maximum height can be different and lead to different max weights.
@@andrewgee241 Yeah, at least within their own lineup Kubota could rate every tractor at a common height (maybe pick a height even the BX can easily manage) and it would really make comparisons more helpful.
thank you! I became smarter today!
I can only imagine how easy it would be for an uninformed salesperson to simply go by the sales brochure when talking to an uninformed customer about their needs.
Seems like the pivot pin measurement is the only way to actually compare apples to apples. Quick couplers, heavy duty vs light duty buckets, cutting edges, teeth can all throw those figures off. The pivot pin should not change.
except that some companies have the ssl coupler as standard and include it in the figures, for some its optional.
@@MessicksEquip pin location still doesn’t change
@@ryanv3751 right, but some brands will have the weight of the SSL coupler included in the pivot pin spec when its standard equipment, some choose to keep the SSL coupler optional because they can then leave the weight of the coupler out of the spec sheet. There is no single number you can't play games with.
All i say is demo before buying
And only buy kabota or Deere ive heard to many horror stories from other noname brands these two brands hold there resale value
The only negative about John Deere is their loader couplers are proprietary to John Deere, unlike other brands that use the universal skid steer coupler for the quick attach on the loader...I think there are some aftermarket conversion kits so you can convert a John Deere loader to the SSQA coupler, which I'd highly recommend doing, so you don't have to go to the dealer every time you want a new toy...err...tool HAHA!! Nothing wrong with Deere or Kubota. I think you'd probably be ok with others like New Holland, Massey, but yes, those no name low ball import tractors with surprising low prices are not necessarily going to be a great deal in the end when you really start to use them.
Way too much information for us common person. Would need at least 5 years of research and training.be for buying a tractor.