New GE Profile All-in-One Washer and Dryer: Tough Questions for the Creator
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In this video, we have the honor of speaking with Ken Rudolph, the designer of the new GE Profile all-in-one washer and dryer with heat pump technology.
This unit was designed to wash and dry your clothes in a single 2-hour cycle. Once the washer is done, the heat pump helps dry the clothes so you never have to move your clothes from the washer to the dryer again.
Decide for yourself if this revolutionary appliance is right for your laundry room.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:34 Ken Rudolph
1:08 How Can This Work?
2:35 How Long Has GE Worked on This?
4:16 How Does 110 Work For a Large Appliance?
5:54 How Does the Heat Pump Work?
7:49 Problems with All-In-One's
8:22 How Do You Avoid Issues?
10:36 How Much Money Will You Save with Heat Pump Technology?
13:01 How Long Does the Cycle Take?
15:05 What Testing Has Been Done?
17:18 Taking a Look at Smart Features
21:55 What is the Life Span of this New Washer and Dryer?
27:56 We Will Be Testing Soon!
Great video. I actually bought one today. Went into my local home improvement center They had them on sale for about $1000 of the normal price. A few mins later while looking around spotted one they had one that had a dent in the top. They then marked that one 1/2 price off the sale price so I basically bought mine at 2/3 reduction. Score. I think this will be a winner for GE
Give us an update after 1 year.
Wow!
What do you think so far?
What do you think??
Only time something brand new to be on sale for 2/3rd the normal cost means it's junk and they are willing to sacrifice you and your hard earned dollars as a test rat. These units require way more maintenance that needs to be done way more often than GE recommends and they only handle a load of 15lbs efficiently anything more is killing the unit
If this appliance lives up to its promises, it is honestly a "dream machine".
Nightmares are dreams too.
Awesome video!! Regarding usability, is this adaptable to an RV environment? Is it able to withstand the vibrations experienced during travel in a RV?
I love mine. It is my best purchase as ar as appliances go
Yeah nightmares are also dreams, It's too big, Too efficient, Too stupid, Too expensive...
@epiccollision too big? Compared to two machines? Or a wash tower? TOO efficient? That's a new one lol from what I understand you want to get the job done as efficiently as possible as long as it's done the more efficient the better. It is expensive.. but not necessarily too expensive. It's the same price as too high-end washer and dryer but the pressure will come down or you purchase on the holiday and that's it
We just purchased this machine and it really does deliver. I highly recommend it. The wife is definitely happy with it.
How many bath towels can it hold? Can it do throw rugs? King bed linens? Thinking about adding one behind double doors in the design of our new master bath. Room to build shelves over the machine to install linen shelves? TY for your input!
@@pamsweeney1171 I've been using this model for a few days. It does king sized bedding (more like 2.5-3.0 hours for something that big). Haven't done a throw rug, but I don't see why not. It's almost 5 cu ft capacity. I just did like 6 bath/beach towels, and it reduced the expected time significantly after it weighed the load, meaning it expected a full load on the "towels" setting to be significantly more. Probably fits 8-10 bath towels.
@@pamsweeney1171I know this is late but I just washed and dried a really big king comforter sheet and pillow cases all together and still has good room came out super soft clean and dry awsome
My mom’s 45 year old Kenmore dryer is literally in the living trust to me. Nothing has ever made my clothes so fluffy and clean, not to mention jeans just look better faster. Lastly, it can be repaired with a spanner wrench and a flathead screwdriver.
True. I might buy this to replace my two front loads that are stacked in my laundry closet. The trade-offs are worth it if I can get a ton of storage space, and countertop with the removal of a unit.
I was devastated when the ancient washer in the home I purchased 16 years ago broke down. Can't imagine how old it was.
Our Kenmore died out after decades of use. Appliances aren't made like they used to be. I'm still pretty excited for this one though!!
@@Thelooneylink The old ones never die, they just need new parts. I have repaired my ancient washers and dryers (and I fixed my neighbors too). Their are stockpiles of parts to last decades, just do the research and find the part.
by "old" I mean - units without screens and microcontrollers inside. Any unit that uses a dial and physical buttons is "old" and can be repaired by the owner.
I’ve had this combo for a few weeks now. I feel like I’ve been catapulted into the future! There is not a day where I feel like I’m doing laundry at all. The real work is folding and putting away now. Ours got back ordered and the laundry that built up for those 3 weeks was finished in a matter of a couple days. You can run this at night, when you’re away, without worry of a dryer fire. Also your laundry is dry when you get back to it, so there is no wet laundry that still needs to be put in the dryer and dried after you get home if you put a load in before you went out. I have ditched my laundry schedule and just throw a load in when a basket is full. I keep a clean basket to pull the dry clothes into and it goes straight back to a room to get put away in a flash.
I will never go back to traditional washer and dryer. This combo cleans better than any high end set I’ve ever had. There are never damp pockets or waistbands, no soggy quilt burritos that need to be flipped and dried again.
The only load I had a problem with was a small load of microfiber cleaning cloths. They were plastered to the inside of the drum and both wet and dry. So I hit the rinse/dry cycle and came back to them dried and fluffy. I think if I put them on a light spin instead of high next time it won’t happen.
GE hit it out of the park with this one. It is truly a game changer. For anyone thinking it’s slower, it’s just not - embrace the freedom this combo will bring you. I simply do not have a backlog of laundry anymore, it is all always done.
We just bought one last week and wow! I was very skeptical but it is amazing. We had 2 weeks of laundry due to our washer dying and waiting for this beauty to arrive. Over the weekend everything got washed, dried and put away. It really does what it says. Praying it will keep this performance for the LONG haul. Technology for us was a bit challenging but we are figuring it out. 👍👍
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Gee, wouldn't it be great if there were shops where you could rent the use of heavy duty washers and driers as needed?
Laundromat.@@rabokarabekian409
We have been using the “all-in-one” machine for many years, in Europe ONLY! Love them so much! Finally available in USA. I see one in the future. ❤❤❤ Thanks GE
The thing everybody is ignoring, is that a vented dryer unit takes the conditioned air OUT of your house, uses it to dry the clothes and then jets that air OUT of the house. That Air has to be made up from LARGE volume of outside air seeping INTO your house that isn’t conditioned. The unit heating up your house on its own is much smaller than the energy load required to Heat or cool the make up air that comes IN from all the air that’s sucked out of your house by the dryer.
Agreed. The depressurization of the home during a drying cycle with a vented dryer is actually a big deal. Even if you had make up air it still is a big loss. I feel like the rep was alluding to this at 12:20 or so but the host thought he was talking about contributing heat to an air conditioned house. I look forward to sealing my dryer vent and getting one of these soon. Good set of videos.
He plainly says "It does NOT steal air conditioned air". He explains how it works. It is compared to refrigerators. Since he knows the design, I trust that he knows what he is talking about. I'm still deciding on purchasing.
My co-worker friend of 25years is having a bedroom converted in to a combination home office/½ bath & washer dryer.. She called and ordered the GE Profile combo( large capacity) .. I thought she meant stacked, like apartment size. Nope. After a few hours of reviews, SOLD.. She's excited. 3 weeks until delivery. 💙
Great video💜
Bought one of these while living in Japan about 15 years ago, also a heat pump model.
The driver for this in Japan is that there's no external venting for dryers.
We had it serviced about 6 times in 4 years, and the warranty paid for a full replacement with a newer model.
The main problem was lint management when used in combination wash/dry mode.
We've moved back to North America and now only use it as a washer, and in this use scenario lint is not an issue.
Full props to GE for having a very large lint filter. This would likely have made a huge difference with the machine we had.
Seems that GE has addressed the issues of past combos. This thing is going to be a huge hit as it addresses so many issues - no vent needed, 110 power, incredible efficiency, convenience of the combo, space saving and it is a full sized unit.
@@EdwardFielding who's going to pay for a $2000 washing machine/dryer we can get one for $900....
If it was any manufacturer but GE I would be interested. I had a 2010 GE Profile Refrigerator that had a circuit board burst into flames on me. Evidently there was a class action but not sure if GE ever followed through. If I had not been in the house and smelled the burning electronics it would have caught on fire. I'll give it a few years for others to enter the marketplace and to see if the performance of this product will convince me to risk my families lives with GE again. I'm also very skeptical about the lint not getting to the coils over time. The angle of access to the coils would make it difficult to vacuum them without damaging them. Thanks to Yale and team for putting up this video and for future reviews to come.
Profit growth every quarter, you see.
Out with GNP and in with GDP, you see.
Even Communism is "fine now" for GE, eh Chinese workers?
My wife and I walked ourselves into one as the final piece of our laundry room remodel. I will be here Friday. Ordered directly from GE. I can confirm Dominion power does offere a $50 incentive in Virginia.
Tested on 5 loads of laundry each with different settings. Took between 4-6 hours. Had to return it by the return window. Good concept, needs few more years.
That long...was shorter in our tests
What settings? You’re the only one so far that has said it has taken this long. Others have said 2-2.5 average
What did you do, fill the entire drum? Front loaders, top loaders, none are meant to be packed full. Clothes need room to move and tumble. Even my thick towels and robes washed and dried faster in this than my old high end top loader because they for the first time didn’t make a wet burrito of toasted on the outside wet on the inside laundry that had to be flipped and set to dry a second time.
It blows me away that so few people care about wasting energy. So glad that GE got this done. I adore mine!
I hope the team at YALE follows up with a performance review after this (ie how well does it clean, how fast does it dry, do the clothes smell funny afterwards, how badly wrinkled are items when they come out, how much lint builds up inside and at the gasket, noise levels of the washer drum spinning, all the usual complaints with these combo units, etc, etc). We need the details and trust Yale to provide the accurate feedback.
Being tested as we speak........
@@YaleAppliance1 any idea when results or a video may come out? I'm moving into my new house in July or August, so I'm right on the line on whether to go traditional, or get this unit
@@YaleAppliance1any idea of when you’ll publish the review?
@@YaleAppliance1 yeah video or article, any insight on if there will be shortages on this I heard what he said in the video but how does that translate into getting your hands on one if it tests good.
@@kf1107 just got released today
Your engineer has it right. You need to bring something to the market that people want. For me washing and drying is a commodity. It is efficient enough that it has little or no impact on my life. In the last two decades the cost and hassle of broken machines is now the number one problem for me. Taking 2 hours to wash and dry a 10# load while stating the EPA is happy is not even on my radar. I hope the product takes off and it is very reliable. A landfill full of broken machines with no, or very expensive reapir paths is not the solution. These things need to last way beyond 10 years with the mean over 20. It used to be that way, and it is a real environmental soultion.
A landfill full of broken machines...like the Maytag Neptune? Sure, keeping the EPA happy isn't on your radar. How about spending half as much on the dry cycle, putting a lot less heat into your laundry room which has to be sucked out by the air conditioner, and being able to do what you want for 2hrs without coming back to find a load of wet clothes in the washer that still needs to be dried?
@@johnbarker5009 not only that, but all the conditioned air being sucked out of the home.
People are going to hate hot damp clothes... Especially when they bake the wrinkles in
Great questions and the answers were very precise. I was looking at this the other day, researching and youtube didn't lead me here. Thank you for asking the tough questions. This may be in my future.
And with this being ran by 110 I now have a 220 available for my E car . This just saved me a lot of money putting in another panel and running another 220.
Building a new net-zero and passive home, this is one of the most exciting products that we have decided upon. I am looking forward to changing the way we do laundry and not have to plan to move the laundry from the washer to the dryer. Having this as a heat pump unit follows what we are trying to accomplish with the house. This is such a brilliant step forward and such a major step for the all-electric home. I grew up in a GE town and everyone bought GE and they performed so well. I am really happy to be returning to all GE appliances for the new house. Many thanks to Steve and Ken for this great video.
Net-zero, passive, and all-electric homes are the way that homes should be built, but more need to be built for contractors to learn and be successful in reducing the incremental costs. This washer/dryer is perfectly aligned with environmental needs. We decided to have the entire design through building process filmed by The Build Show to create awareness. Build Show Boston.
Cool...let us know if we can help.
With appliances like this on the market, are you tempted to build the house without any 240v circuits? I'm assuming no because of electric cars. But it seems tempting. I wonder if anyone considers a very large capacity water heater with only 120v and a scold guard. That would be great because it could get the water very hot when it's very sunny
GE domestic appliances, its really a badge brand and owned by Heier.
"net - zero and passive" just become Marketing words when you look at the amount of energy used in 2 hours -> 13:15 for one, that's one typical load. I can and do hang clothes now and I plan and will continue to hang clothes if/when I move. Outside when possible (currently not viewable by anyone but surrounded by a flower/edibles trellis on four sides if/when I move). I also, regularly hang clothes inside. Do I own a stand-alone dryer now? Yes. Have I purchased an LG All-In-One that I plan to almost never use as a dryer or one-step washer/dryer? Correct.
Indoor Clothes Hanging sites can be designed surprisingly small when using all 3 dimensions and even make use of the HVAC System (a last stop before venting that air outside).
How "Net-Zero" are we if our landfills contain the Raw Materials that were extracted with devastating results? How better off are we if "Hard Goods" is a pre-Reaganomics economic indicator replaced with "quarterly profit growth"? And how better off are we when GDP (consumerism) has replaced GNP (manufacturing)?
Oh and by the way, dryers usually have MORE (not less) capacity than a Washer, despite the GE Reps claim here -> 13:53
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Great solution for small spaces. Harkens back to the old Bendix washer/dryer from the 1950s and from Miele and others today that make the same item. The problem is that you have to wait for the clothes to wash and dry before putting in the next load. Can be time consuming for those with lots of laundry and busy schedules.
Or you could run one load of laundry each night while you sleep with even less inconvenience.
@@InternetDude Maybe they have more laundry than that...
I bought this this machine ,I have used it almost everyday. I went in my closet and pulled out clothing just to check out all the claims. It is so easy to use . I even brought in my friends and neighbors. One canceled their order for stackable LG to the GE all in one combo for their new constructed home.
I just bought this a few months ago and i LOVE it. In most instances its no more time than traditional machines. Less, if you count how often you forget to change it. I recently w/d my mattress cover. You know how usually you have to stop the dryer, unroll the mattress cover, get the wet part to the outside, restart the dryer? Well didn’t have to do that with this unit. I also think it doesn’t beat the clothes up so badly, produces less lint.
This is an absolutely groundbreaking washer/dryer combo!!!
I’m in love with this machine and what it represents, since I saw it at Best Buy. Can’t wait to close on my apartment and get this machine. If this works for me, I will be client of GE for life.
I own GE top of the line front load washer/dryer and adore them so I am very excited to hear Yale’s review of this new product! Currently, my laundry is in the basement, which means I have to carry heavy laundry down two flights of stairs and that isn’t as easy as it once was! We hope to age in place so this new GE Combo will be a game changer IF it lives up to the hype! I would jump for joy if I could put this upstairs near a water source and where my dirty laundry currently resides! I remember using an all in one unit as a 10 year old in 1970 that was located in the kitchen of our apartment. I was responsible for doing my family’s laundry so I would do one load of laundry at night. in the morning it was dry, and ready to be folded! That washer/dryer combo was the best because it meant I could my family’s laundry every night then fold before breakfast! By the way, at just under $3,000 is a great price point because the GE front load washer and dryer was more expensive when we purchased them in 12/2020.
I also have the GE set about 1 year newer. Last month I noticed the washer stopped draining. I pulled the drain pump and it was completely out of spec. Nothing was broken physically it was the electrical part. I put new pump in but it was still not draining. I had to also replace the mainboard. Mainboard had a blown transistor. Pretty sure that fried the drain pump. So not real happy with GE. The mainboard had I think 17 separate connectors. I never saw anything like that but thankfully it's working like new again. On a side note when it was under warranty during the first year GE sent a repair guy to replace the bellows (gasket) for a leak. I had to take the machine apart for the drain pump and the factory GE tech left screws out on the vent fan. I found some screws that fit and replaced them. Can't even trust factory trained repair reps.
Not sure where ppl are buying appliances but I got a huge (5.0) Samsung top load washer and dryer for $1300. Hate front loaders, cleaned every 2 wks with citric acid and always left door wide open and still got black mold.
I’ll have this unit soon I’ll have it dissected. Heat pump or the heating system isn’t what I would be cautious about. The main issue is the dual system. What I mean by that is, the drum assembly bearing spider and seal will be working twice as hard. I will have a comparable washer next to it to compare it with. Hopefully the motor and all the duel system are beefed up. The positive things are the voltage is 120 , ventless and save space. The negative is very heavy parts might be more expensive and cost more to repair/service. We shall see
Good idea
From an analytical analysis perspective: Resistive heating elements use 5X the current at the same voltage to achieve the same heating wattage as a heat pump. In simple terms: A heat pump uses 5X less electricity to dry the clothes. So you'll see your electricity bill go down any time you replace a resistive electrical heater with a heat pump. The exact same thing is true when you replace an electrical water heater with a heat pump water heater. 5X less electricity is used to achieve the same heating.
And when you hang clothes to dry you use zero electricity.
Thank you so much. I hope to buy as soon as it comes to San. Diego. Our electricity and gas is now a fortune so I hope this will save and provide more room too in the laundry room.
Just got mine yesterday. So far it's been pretty good. The towels came out slightly damp but warm and literally seconds later were warm and dry. I love it so far!
Side note...this thing is HEAVY! 350 pounds.
Air flow, not heat, is key! In a small room (10x10), hanging clothes racks & a box fan, I dry my clothes in a few hours!
Awesome. Folks living in non-humid locations can do that too.
Finally, someone else here who hangs clothes. They last longer and dry more quickly under good conditions. Most homes have space INSIDE and some can hang outside by disguising it as a flower/edibles trellis.
I’m not sure about this unit, but we recently bought (2) sets of Miele washers & heat pump dryers. After getting all of the settings set - and it takes a little bit, I’m loving the units; especially the heat pump dryers. It takes a little longer than our previous large LG vented dryer, but honestly not by much for medium sized loads. You have to set the controls to Extra-Dry, and you have to get used to the way the clothes feel when done. You’ll think shirts, pants, and bed linens are damp by feel, but once you take them out of the dryer and hang the clothes or get the sheets to the bed, they’re dry. It’s only a few seconds and it’s hard to explain it. Clothes sound come out of the LG dry but felt roasted. Clothes come out of Miele smooth, warm, and soft. It does get really warm. We plugged both sets into a 220v splitter (splits one 220v into two 110v), maybe that makes a difference. They do generate some heat in the laundry room, but it’s just a little bit of heat and no moisture. If the GE heat pump dryer works as well as the Miele, people will be pleased - but they may have to get used to the feel when the clothes are finished. They seem slightly damp but really aren’t. I’m loving them.
I have a Miele dishwasher and a Miele canister vacuum and both are outstanding performers and so so very quiet.
Miele’s are considered some of the top models in the world. I have been looking at the heat pump dryers and the clothes feel is common.
I just purchased this unit on 9/6/2023 from Lowes which included a free pedestal. This W/D combo is perfect for me as a single person. I can’t wait for it to be delivered next week. 😁
I’ve watched other reviews on this unit and people have reported that it emits heat at the top of the unit at 101 degrees. I’m going to place other clothing items that I normally don’t put in the dryer, on top for a few minutes to dry.
It does get really toasty warm on top, yet does not heat up my upstairs like my old dryer at all. I’ve been getting a load going for the night and happened to pile my pajamas on top - oh let me tell you it is the perfect temperature for warming a towel for the bath, pajamas for winter, etc. I wouldn’t store anything up there but it’s a fine temporary landing spot.
I experimented by selecting a lesser dry level on one load, regretted that I hadn’t gone for fully dry, and wanted to get another load going. I laid out each shirt (about 8) on top and they got completely dry just sitting on the warm unit.
Top does get hot....
I'm super excited for this, I hope that it lives up to the promise. Will be a perfect fit in my older home
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My washer died so i took a shot on this unit and i been amazed how well it work. Does take little longer than my old units but i can do laundry at night and get up with clean and dried clothes.
I just got one, been running it for a week now. It's great. I had a 2.4 cu foot GE all in one before this and it's night and day difference on wash times and load capacity. Also, it's way lighter on the clothes. The other GE unit was very tough on things and cause the life expectancy to drop. Imagine seeing brand new t-shirts look old after a few washes! You could see all the lint and colorful clothes parts shoot out of the water drain tube. Another thing that's interesting to me with this type of unit is the disaster preparedness aspect. You could run this thing on a large ecoflow if needed. Wish I could trust the app, someday I'll hook it up with an old wiped phone on an IOT network just to do some updates. Good work! Wish GE could have figured this all out before they sold to Haier.
Thank you...Unfortunately, they would have never been able to make this under the old GE regime. They never invested.
If this machine works as advertised it will be a game changer! I have always said that dryers destroy clothes.We all have experienced pulling clothes out of a dryer that are so hot you can barely hold them and that extreme heat is terrible for clothing. The idea of using a heat pump is brilliant and I would not mind waiting longer for clothes to dry as they will be better cared for and also the power savings. I'm going wait 6 months for more reviews to come out and if everything looks good this will be my next washer/dryer for sure.
I think that with traditional clothes dryers people use the highest heat settings. If they would set the dryer to a lower temperature setting they would not fry them. I am however an advocate for heat pump dryers.
Don't walk, run to get yours. We've had ours for just over a month. 100 loads in, I don't think we will ever go back. Laundry doesn't feel like a chore anymore. The benefit of running a load late at night or during the work day with the timer function is worth every penny. No more weekends full of laundry because it is so much easier to do loads as you see fit through the week. Everything promised is true. There is no hyperbole in this video.
Very informative! Will be watching the customer comments, hope this machine delivers in life expectancy already seeing this machine on sale to grab shoppers
Very interesting product. We have a Samsung combo that breaks every year due to lint buildup. This does look like a game changer.
Great video! It’s amazing to have THE Product Manager interviewed! And he appears to have his head screwed on straight :-). GE, I was seriously looking at the new LG, After being able to look into the whites of his eyes of this project manager, I think you have sold me on GE. This is a great marketing venue, get him out there and I think you will sell very well! And give him a promotion and bonus :-)
I'll wait for real-world reliability info, but it sounds especially great for smaller spaces. Still not the equivalent of a separate washer & dryer, though; with separate units and multiple loads, you can "pipeline" the loads, drying a first load while washing a second load. With this unit you would have to wash and dry the first load before you can start the second load. If you wash clothes in large batches, say 4 loads, this machine would take ~8 hours, while separate machines could be done in ~5 hours.
You could always take out a second mortgage and buy two of them! If the price does come down enough it might just be an option. Good point though.
Well if real world, you will not be able to start drying before you wash. How are you getting 5hrs instead of 8hrs? He did say the washer was the exact same. So if washer and dry are equal, you will come out better with all in one with half the effort and transfer trips.
Another channel showed for a load of towels, it took 3 hours and 45 minutes. That alone is a big turn off. Sure, it uses less power, but if you have to dry it twice as long, it's not much of a savings. And if the dryer breaks (as explained in the video), you replace the entire heat pump unit, not the broken part, great for GE, but not for me.
It would only take me 3 hours to wash and dry 4 loads. It only takes me a half an hour to wash a load and a half an hour to dry a load. And a load of towels maybe 40 minutes to dry.
@@los2hot499 Say you wash a load in a washer and it takes 15 minutes. Throw it in a dryer that will take, say, 45 minutes to dry, and meanwhile throw another load in the washer. In an hour you've washed two loads and dried one. Second wash load goes in the dryer, your start a third wash. 45 minutes later...
See how the throughput improves?
I'm obsessed with this machine.
When I graduated and got my first teaching job I purchased my first washing machine. It was one of the GE ones with micoban tech (DGFW850SSN0WW). I was amazed at how well it worked. It cleaned my clothes so damn well. I also LOVED the auto detergent dispense and smart features that are built into the machine.
That said, I had always wanted one of these all-in-ones machines but I was aware of some of the drawbacks (prime among them was the time to dry). If this thing works as well as it seems, I will really want to get one even though my washing machine is relatively new.
One thing... will it get Matter support (which means that hopefully it will become HomeKit compatible at some point)?
Even thought it’s not HomeKit compatible I’ve seen a reviewer show the app alerts on her Apple Watch, I have that now with my whirlpool and appreciate having the basic notification that wash is done.
I lived with the GE all in one washer dryer combo in my tiny house for about 4 years. I also have a husky and the unit could NOT get dog hair out of my clothes. I absolutely love my new 30 year old “dumb” dryer and washer because it just cleans so well.
Edit: sorry, I meant to say I had a different older version. What was lacking in the older models was a strong fan, but it sounds like they fixed that with this new large model.
The combo has only been available for two weeks.....
I don't think I've ever used my dryer on anything other than the lowest heat, happy to see one designed for 110.
Miele is also 110 volt.
I was planning on buying the LQ tower ventless for a new build. I love my LQ separates. But this looks worth taking a chance on. I'll buy the extended warranty.
If you can find someone to fix it
@@YaleAppliance1 but that seems to be the case with everything these days. I'm retired but my new hobby is fixing audio electronics because, even when you can find someone, shops are a year out.
I love how this man stands behind his work!!
The guy built something unique
That's fantastic, thanks for the interview.
What a great video .
I don’t need a new machine,
but I will be getting one.
I’d buy 2 just to get extra wash done since I’d have an empty space … I have a second home in the mountains and wonder if this could be safely left in a home that gets very cold when it’s shut down for the winters
I have one. It lives you to it’s projections, it’s great. It has a great warranty should it need service. I’ll add one word of caution. I stayed away from front loaders because of the mold issue. This machine addresses that issue very successfully. Keep the filter clean, I clean the filter after every wash. Wipe the inner micro bacterial ring at the opening and there will never be a problem.
Very interesting, hearing from a designer and engineer. Use-based information from consumers ought to have more bearing for a purchasing decision, but I enjoyed hearing some technical parts of the how-we-got-to-this-machine story, and that also would influence my purchasing decision.
I had. GE water heater, with a heat pump, it was and still is amazing! Hope the technology and repairs have caught up. Heat pumps are amazing
You must be in a hot and humid climate?
I have one too with mine in the garage elevated from the garage floor next to the washer and dryer. A lot of Florida homes are set up with the water heater and laundry in the garage so that the heat from the dryer and water heater don’t affect the temperature inside of the house. The greatest thing about having the Eco water heater is that the heat pump effectively works as an air conditioner for the interior of my garage as it extracts the heat and humidity from the air and converts into heat in the tank.
And my electric bill has been minimized dramatically
@@LlyleHunter Spot on ! I live in Florida too with a garage based heat pump water heater. In the hottest months it knocks about 8 to 10 degrees off the temperature when running and we are using about $30 a month less in electricity for a family of 4. I've been looking for a heat pump dryer but this looks like a game changer to me. I hope it works over time and I can learn to trust GE again. My 2010 era GE profile fridge caught on fire when a circuit board failed. Had I not been there it would have set my house on fire.
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. My water heater is in a basement room. It was necessary to have a grill into the crawl space to get more air flow and a small ~20 watt blower to exhaust from the room to the outside. But I have solar and everything in the house is electric, heating/cooling, induction cooktop etc. Since I generate more power than I need my utility bill is zero. No complaints, but heat pump water heaters are definitely even better in hot humid climates.
I will be buying this machine. I’m remodeling and I haven’t cut a vent hole in the wall in the hopes that an all-in-one that works would make it to market. I hope this is it. Really like that it’s full capacity and is easy to use, with a reasonable drying time. I’m wondering about the energy efficiency incentives, when those will come.
Not sure....
You’re right on time!
Sounds like you've got to have a hole somewhere for water drainage.
We've had ours since July 6tb. After every load we have to clean out the lint trap and the blue coil to the right of the the lint trap because lint is going over the top of the lint trap and collecting on the blue coil thing. We're in the process of getting this exchanged through the store we bought it from, hoping ours is just a faulty unit. But yes, lint is flowing over the top of the trap and collecting on that blue coil. 😢
A channel I just saw recommended to seal around the edges with high temperature gasket maker to stop that. A minor fix.
What were the symptoms you had?
Great info! Wish Yale delivered to (& serviced in) Atlanta!
Us too!
My machine is coming this week. Cant wait to try it out
Like to see after 3 years! Washing a load of towels and jeans and dry for 2 & 1/2 hours. As the fine lint and dust builds up on the coils the drying in heat pump deteriorates. Unlike condenser dryers you can't pull the coil out to clean and wash. Should have been 240 volt which is more efficient.
Did GE custom make this just for me????? I just ordered one (couldn’t have done it without the big July 4 sale), I’m so excited to get a washer that works for me. 2nd floor laundry, duct goes straight up 24 feet, costs at least $400 for a professional to clean it yearly (if you have a vent like this you know how fast they clog) and most won’t go up on the steep roof, so I clean it myself and have to pull the dryer out of the closet (so bad, I’ve been thinking of expanding the laundry closet so it can be vented horizontally to the outside wall $$$!).
Besides that I have neuromuscular problems and most days just doing laundry is difficult. My top loader is so deep it’s a struggle to lift wet (and often tangled) laundry up and get it into the dryer. And the Whirlpool controls laid out in one wordy block with a dinky LCD screen are not intuitive at all, so I only use the app which means I can’t start laundry yet if I left my phone downstairs. What am I going to do with the extra space in my 64 inch wide laundry closet? Install a the laundry sink I’ve always wanted!
If this works, GE wins an old customer back that had migrated to other brands after the old GE quality wasn’t there anymore. I don’t want bells and whistles, I want function and appliances that actually make my life easier and free up my time.
Amen to no more vent cleaning! I have a 20 ft run under my concrete slab and I clean it twice a year. In Florida in the summer that is a miserable job.
Having lived in London where washer/dryers are common.....if this machine actually works well it would be fantastic. I'm not so worried about the heat pump/electric non venting dryer as I owned an LG dryer like this(the water drain was plumed in) that worked very well. I think this product would be great as a 2nd washer/dryer either on the 1st or 2nd floor of a house.
This thing just came to be. We need to give it some time to prove itself. Usually it works fine in begin.
Thanks for all the concise info Steve! I just bought one from your Framingham Store! I have a tiny laundry closet that will now have much needed shelf space! ALSO, the old Dryer was an "indoor vent", which is hot moist exhaust into a water bucket... yuck. This looks to me the real deal!
But one question, why hasn't any other washer/dryer combo had a lint catch?? Seems extremely obvious!
Great question.
A combo is your only choice if you only have 24 inches, a smaller space, or minimum power. You see combos overseas because they do have smaller spaces.
Most combos are small and are designed for one or two people, so the problem isnt as bad as if you are washing for a family.
BTW, thank you for buying from us. I/we sincerely appreciate it.
Most of the European washer dryers used water to keep it fluff free, they would inject water through the pipe and it kept it really clean, the water that condenses from the drying would go down as well. Had a Hoover Nextra washer/dryer for years with 1600 rpm spin, I had the matching condenser dryer and I would put the big stuff in the dryer to dry and would leave smaller bits in the washing machine and I dried so well, European models are smaller that that huge great thing, and the rule used to be that you could only do half load as there wouldn’t be enough space in the drum for the clothes to tumble and drop down but now with bigger drum sizes the drying size has got bigger mine was 7lg wash load and 6 kg drying load.
Wow I'm in a condo my utility room is a tight one. Have matag bravo xl , have to see the detail sheet what are the exact measurements would be. I read about all the problems are with the other units bad lint issues. After Yale gets their unit and use it will be interested to hear what they think.
One of the biggest drawbacks I can see would be you can't wash and dry multiple loads of clothes as fast as you can if have a separate washer and dryer. That's because you can start washing your second load without having to wait for the first load to dry. That extra time increases each additional load you have to wash and dry. I can see where that could be a problem with a larger family. There would also be the issue years down the road when it breaks down, you would be losing both your washer and dryer at the same time. With separates, you would only need to replace one at a time since it's not likely they would both fail at the same time.
Yes but instead of babysitting the entire laundry process you can easily do a load at night or while you work or go out. If you want to spend every Saturday going to your laundry room repeatedly this is probably the wrong washer.
On the other hand, when these get cheaper your average home laundry area built for side by side machines can have double machines. Full redundancy.
Well Robert, MAYBE Erin is right. Babysitting IS such a chore. The constant interruption of your television time and "friends" time and "me" time to babysit is the real crime.
The "babysitting" would still exist if you are washing and drying more than one load. You still have to remove one load of clothes to start washing the second load. You also have to fold each load when they are finished just the same. When they make one that will fold and hang everything up, that would be wonderful. That's where most of the work comes from, not moving one load from the washer to the dryer. That part doesn't take very long and is pretty easy anyways.
I saw this drop in Las Vegas in January, and spoke to an engineer there. I am still waiting for availability in Canada as I need 8 of these today for a net zero build.
Still rockin our Kenmore elite front loaders from 2001.
I love heat pump dryers, but im still very skeptical about the condenser getting covered in lint. I feel no matter how good the filtration is, particles will still get through.
You and me both
For what it's worth, I've had a Whirlpool heat pump dryer for almost 4 years now and not required any exceptional cleaning (i.e., disassembly) to maintain suitable drying performance.
I have identified that the fine lint filter gets a buildup over time that's impossible to remove, thus it requires replacement-- probably every couple years. Also found that the air exit from the drum has holes that will eventually get little rocks of compacted lint. Just pushing those out with a little screwdriver or toothpick every year is another easy routine maintenance thing that takes 5 minutes.
We absolutely love ours! My only beef with it (probably a note for the designer), is changing the lint filter is so annoying... I feel like it's too small for the machine and for some reason there are always flakes of lint that fall off the filter into the chamber. Aaaand I feel like it uses a bit more detergent that I want despite the low setting. Other then that it's just amazing
Great video. What will and will not work when the GE (like any company with an Internet dependent device) eventually discontinues cloud/online support?
I don't see that happening...Maybe I am niave, but SmartHQ is GEs Smart program and it covers all their brands.
sounds like an amazing product
Would love to test a unit on the west coast in Canada . I am so inspired with this product . Love it for small spaces!
Would love to be part of the marketing in 🇨🇦 Canada.
They just delivered my GE one and Done today
Great review and this product could really work for us to save space in our laundry room and not having to stay up late to transfer a load. But I'm reticent to buy a first version of any new product as complex as this. I'm wondering how often a company like this takes to update their products? Given all the testing that needs to be done I'm guessing it's at least 2 years or more before a major update? But perhaps with all the consumer feedback from the first six months they could get some minor tweaks for next year?
Good question.......
If you have filled the smart dispensers with detergent and softener, is there a way to skip using those for a specific load? If my grandkids are here they use unscented baby detergents for their clothes. Or if I’m doing a load of bath towels I don’t want fabric softener on those.
A further question: will the automatic dispensers put in the amount the detergent manufacturers say to put in? Or, the amount needed to wash the clothes and the rinse cycles rinse it all out? I use the amount the repairman says, that is, about 2 tablespoons or a bit more. Anyone’s thoughts or experiences? Thank you!
This unit is a game changer I hope it’s affordable
$2610
Can I use scented beads, and laundry pods? Will the scented beads build up within the drum due to a drying cycle? In order for the beads to dissolve the beads have to be added when the water is filling up, but now I would have to put the clothes in with the beads. How will it dissolve?
Very interesting. How does the dryer handle the cold generated by the heat pump? Is the cold exhausted into the room, or where else does it go?
I have one. It's a sealed heat pump system. All the moisture is condensed out through a heat exchanger and goes out through the drain pump as water. The cool air is then sent into a compressor where its heated, and then a fan blows it into the drum. Once the air is in the drum, the warm moist air is drawn back out where it passes through a 2 stage lint filter and then back into heat exchanger where the air is cooled and the water condenses out, and the cycle repeats.
This sounds amazing!
Hopes this lives up to the hype in actual use by actual buyers...and is reliable...
me 2
Floor vibration and noise question. We have laundry room on wood floor on mid-level of 3-story townhouse. Using 2005 era traditional GE Profile agitator washer and electric dryer which we love but are getting long in the tooth. How does the noise level and floor vibration compare to traditional machines?
At $2800, it needs a 5 year warranty with commercial quality parts. Otherwise the risk is failure after one year. Heat pumps are quite reliable so the issue is the motor. Use commercial quality motors.
i bought one due to small laundry room when my GE dryer died weeks after warranty. i wanted a whirlpool but since this fit better in my laundry room i tried it. so far so good. i bought extended warranty in case. i actually like how it works.
the manual says no foam rubber in machine. now i am bummed. i can find no info on if i can wash and dry my bed pillows.
i will say bathroom rugs are the one thing i am still figuring out. takes a long time to dry even small ones.
I’m curious about sanitation of clothes. My LG washer has the sanitizer mode which super heats the water from the hot water line to sanitize clothes. I know cold water is usually what is recommended but then we have to use a sanitizer chemical to get a similar result.
I would like to know if you are able to totally cancel out the drying portion for when you do line drying? Will you need to replace the air filter at some point? Are laundry sheets instead of detergent compatible? When will it be available in white?
Not sure about the color. You can pause the machine and then cancel. You can replace the filter, but I don't think its necessary.
Saw a young lady review it in her home in another video. You can select just the wash cycle if you want.
This looks amazing! There was one question that I was hoping you would ask but didn't. Living in a area with hard water I wonder if this would affect the heat exchanger?
I will be asking Ken more questions Friday
@@YaleAppliance1 On video?
Please make it available in Canada!
How much water does it use for an average wash/dry cycle? Does it use water in the dry cycle to cool the condenser?
Now a lot of custom homes most likely are going to put in two draining systems for washers, so you’re able to purchase two Washing Machine’s, I’ve seen a TH-cam video of Dr. DuBrow‘s wife, laundry room. She has 2 sets of front load washer and dryer sets in her laundry room.
The form filter needs to be redesigned to remove the need for those placement holders - lint is getting through from those areas. Also, can people use condenser saved foam spray cleaner to clean the cold and hot condenser coils?
Is this the same heat pump technology used on the GE heat pump hot water heaters a few years back (around 2010 or so)?
Another question I have is does it use a coolant like freon? How much would a new heating system replacement cost?
2nd question, normal washer in a humid location, washer would be very moldy after few washes. With dryer function does that mean the mold inside the washer won’t have this happen anymore?
You would think so. The dryer is drying the gasket. GE thinks so as well because the UltraFresh fan is not in this model.
Wonder if the detergent amount is adjustable, because i like to use free and clear, but not too much, we have allergies
It is
Also, how close to the wall can this be placed? The depth in the specs for standard W/D never takes into account the fact that it needs so much space behind.
The manual says the rear only needs room for the water hoses. No other clearance needed in any dimension.
As long as you get 90 degree water hoses, there is zero clearance needed in the back. In fact, all sides have zero necessary clearance.
Will the testing data be available? I can't wait until Yale really tests one too
We get outs May 15th ish.....
Can you use thi machine as independent dyer and/or independent washer? I appreciate your response. I’m just learning it so thank yo
yes
We need softener that doesn’t coagulate in the machine. I followed advise prior to purchasing my front load washer in 2017 to not use fabric softeners and my machine never took on that stink ever, even when clothes were forgotten and got musty. Also use white vinegar to clean that smell off of clothes and keep your rubber bits clean like your fridge etc. We need softeners with water like viscosity?
Will it come in other colors? And when will California know about pre orders? Will they email their existing customers?
No colors yet
Last question, does this unit have a water heater for sterilize or allergy cycles?
No
We love this machine, but we do have to clean the lint filter after every single load. The sensor even prompts us to press the button asking if the lint filter has been cleaned with every load - even after Self Clean - which is a bit annoying. Also, the crevice tool for our Electrolux can't get all the way inside the lint housing because the it won't get in there when it's on the wand. There have been a few other issues, but overall, this Groovy Combo has been a life-changer! It would be good if you could provide some type of tool to clean out the lint slot that reaches all the way to the back. I clean the drain pump about once per week. Also, sometimes a few items bunch up and stick to the drum and have to be re-dried. Regardless, based on our experience since we got our Groovy Combo in August, I am blown away by it. My back also appreciates not having to make that transition from washer to dryer. I'm hoping it passes the longevity test. Thanks so much, Yale Appliance, for posting this interview. I stumbled across it in May and decided I was going to get this machine when it came to market. I gave it a 5-star review on the GE website.
This sounds great, but my concern is pet hair. People with pets in their home knows that things can get pretty bad. Is there any info on the viability of it being used in a multi animal home?
Testing now.
It'll be interesting to see how it performs after some real world use and honest reviews. I hope it holds up!
Don't expect too much. This is just paid advertisement nothing more.
I wish....still waiting for payment. From this and all the other videos.
How will this perform with a 5 person family with pets? I am concerned with the pet and human hair in the lint trap. Will this unit work for years with this kind of torcher on a washer/dryer unit? What is the maintenance to keep the lint filter in good condition to keep the unit clean?
I dont think anyone can tell you that. Its a new machine. The design looks good, but...
How low of an ambient temperature does the heat pump work? Will it work when the room temperature hits 40 degrees? What if this unit is installed in a unfinished basement?
Great question. I will have to ask Ken