In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens th-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
Excellent video! I'm not sure if I agree of drilling through the board and the hull other than the two screws that are designed to hold the board to the hull. I didn't drill through the hull for the transducer mounting bracket and I hope it is solid enough.
Even though this vids 4yo, I I jus watched another vid where guy had boat in and out of the water blah blah jus looked like to much.....KISS is much better and I like your approach so TY. Screwing all the way thru should be standard practice to stiffen everything up. Alot of these are jus taped or glued on so chances of them popping off is still real. I'm putting a block on mine because I have an old boat so it's a no Brainerd. TY for the vid👏
I leveled my transducer like you did, but if you watch all other videos, they’re showing you to drive the boat 3 miles an hour level on the side of the boat with pennies and quarters come back level the trailer to that height and transducer to that level question question will they be the same The tip down you have the level in them
I’ve got a couple questions, just got a helix 7 si. In the directions it says the transducer needs to be at least 15 inches either side of the propeller. Mine came with a plastic transom mount which in the directions it says to place 1/8 inch from the bottom of the boat, the transducer the man clips into the mount putting it almost 1 1/2 inches under the boat. Did Humminbird just send a general set of directions?
One potential issue I'd be interested in hearing about -- when he drops his motor down, did it interfere with the side imaging? Looks like it might. Thanks for the vid, appreciate it!
So, I notice the mounting block on that Lund is right down on the bottom edge of the transom...Isn't the water deflecting on the block causing a little turbulence? And won't that cause the "bubbles" to run across the bottom of the transducer?
Your "Center chine" is called The Keel". A chine is where the bilge turns up into the sides of the hull. There are only 2; Port and Starboard. I think you may be thinking of a lifting strake.
We just got an 88 ranger 393v mounted the transducer to where the bottom of the boat and transducer are flush. I used the previous owners holes from their old unit. I have a helix 5 di si gen4 so it's the little stubby transducer. I noticed that when I pointed it down like your video said I could finally read depths at 30 mph. Anything over 30 my signal is choppy and sometimes it will give error reading such as 73 feet deep when in reality it's 13. Do I need to drop the transducer down so it's aboutb1/2 to 1/4 below the bottom of the first edge of the boat? Sorry if it's a stupid question, new to all of this
How close can you put two transducer s, Humminbird SI and a Lowrance transducer, opposite sides of the main motor? I already have a Lowrance transducer on the right side, and a kicker on the left of the main motor. How much interference would the kicker do to the Humminbird SI/DI ?
Quick question my hummingbird whenever I turn it on on the side imaging it just looks like lines. Should the transducer be completely submerged in water and parallel with the bottom of the boat or should it be parallel with the water meaning the top should be exposed on the transducer in the bottom should be submerged in water.
Don't follow this dudes install split the transducer 1/2 below 1/2 above the bottom get it in between the chines lookup coin level transducer video on YT go out run ur boat like 5mph bcuz who's scanning on plane bring a level put coins under the level at 5mph to make the level be level get the boat back on trailer put those same amount of coins under the level go up or down on ur trailer jack to make the bubble level now put the level on the transducer level the bubble tighten down make sure u don't throw it outta level when tightening enjoy
The height is set correctly, but the downward angle is the worst idea you can add to SI. Level transducers pick up much more data compared to the downward angle.
@@jamesjenkot5750 yes, you find the angle of a known spot on the floor both left to right and front to back. Pull the boat up on dry land, replicate angles from the water that you measured, and level the transducer both directions. For best SI results, these angles should be measured at the boat speed which the user will use SI the most. By angling the transducer down, in conjunction with the weight of the transom, this points the SI cone way ahead of the boat and reduces the returns.
By using the mounting block, if you want to reposition the transducer or get a different transducer, you’ll be drilling into the block instead of drilling more holes into the stern. Edit: I didn’t notice that he actually drilled every hole through the block into the transom!
Here can I find those plates at? I have a Lund Deep V 18 foot currently never came with those mounting plates. Plus I just purchased the Lowrance 3 in 1 for the Elite T12 what do you suggest for the angle of that transducer? Everything I have seen so far is to mount it level about 1/2 inch below the boat surface any help would be appreciated.
So Matt you don’t agree with all the guys that say you need to level your transducer while your boat is going roughly 3-4 mph? Doesnt that transducer angle drop even further when you put the boat in gear and add guys and equipment? Thanks for the video!
Whoa. Seriously you’re drilling through the mounting block into the boat? Smh, that totally defeats the purpose of the block which allows adjustments with only the two holes for the block. Also, the transducer shouldn’t even be close to skimming the water if you’re following the Humminbird directions. It will be completely submerged at all times. Lastly you really torqued down on the transducer when you tightened it. It’s better for it to give if you hit something rather than the bracket or transducer ripping off the transom.
what happens to the transducer during launch and putting it back on the trailer and during transport, does the transducer flip up to protect it? Do you have to use wrenches every time you want to move it up or down? Thanks
No,The transducer doesn’t move at all.Once installed and tightened to desired position,your done messing with it,When the boat gets unloaded and loaded,The transducer isn’t in the way at all.
Thanks Matt, I reinstalled yesterday and tested today. Images are better and Autochart stopped losing bottom and is charting perfectly even at 38mph.
Thx for doing this vid! I fished with Matt last June... while we had a tough day, the things I learned from him are priceless!
I set my transducer up, just like you guys explained on the video. Truly amazed how the transducer is working. Awesome video. Thanks guys.
Wow !!!! What a difference you made to my to my reading . Thanks from Australia
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens th-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
Great video. Watched a few of these and a bunch of yours over and over. Pretty basic install, just need to take your time. Thank you.
Excellent video! I'm not sure if I agree of drilling through the board and the hull other than the two screws that are designed to hold the board to the hull. I didn't drill through the hull for the transducer mounting bracket and I hope it is solid enough.
I thought the purpose of those blocks was to keep you from drilling holes in your boat.
Even though this vids 4yo, I I jus watched another vid where guy had boat in and out of the water blah blah jus looked like to much.....KISS is much better and I like your approach so TY. Screwing all the way thru should be standard practice to stiffen everything up. Alot of these are jus taped or glued on so chances of them popping off is still real. I'm putting a block on mine because I have an old boat so it's a no Brainerd. TY for the vid👏
Why place a mounting block on the hull if you are screwing all the way through it into the hull?
he said the mounting block was already installed
@@PARKERBROTHERSPLUMBING wasn't the question..
generally they epoxy the mounting blocks to the hull
The mounting block has 2 screws that I can see one on each side
Use silicone to mount this is a 20+years seal..❤
how far are you tilting the rear down half an inch or 3/4 of an inch? thanks, the best video for this on you tube
I leveled my transducer like you did, but if you watch all other videos, they’re showing you to drive the boat 3 miles an hour level on the side of the boat with pennies and quarters come back level the trailer to that height and transducer to that level question question will they be the same The tip down you have the level in them
Confused, this goes completely against almost all the installation instructions giving by Humminbird?
A lot of this video goes against a lot of everything that everyone says. Never mind just the instructions
EPIC" from Idaho! THANKS MATT!
I’ve got a couple questions, just got a helix 7 si. In the directions it says the transducer needs to be at least 15 inches either side of the propeller. Mine came with a plastic transom mount which in the directions it says to place 1/8 inch from the bottom of the boat, the transducer the man clips into the mount putting it almost 1 1/2 inches under the boat. Did Humminbird just send a general set of directions?
Thanks mine was throwing heck of roster tail
So I’m guessing put the back more down the up? I’m not sure if I should leave it straight or on a angle downwards
The rivets kill me.
no boats in Aus are built like that, obviously functional but surley not as strong as welds.
I have a helix five with its transducer should upgrade to the transducer you are installing or just rejust it to get better picture
One potential issue I'd be interested in hearing about -- when he drops his motor down, did it interfere with the side imaging? Looks like it might. Thanks for the vid, appreciate it!
Mine does interfere a tad I just raise the motor up a tad at it reads perfectly
In,the video you mentioned installing a high speed ducker too, did you install and angle it the same way
So, I notice the mounting block on that Lund is right down on the bottom edge of the transom...Isn't the water deflecting on the block causing a little turbulence?
And won't that cause the "bubbles" to run across the bottom of the transducer?
By adding it in the back, do I loose imaging on one side because if the motor blocking the sonar wave
This is what I was wondering aswell
Your "Center chine" is called The Keel". A chine is where the bilge turns up into the sides of the hull. There are only 2; Port and Starboard. I think you may be thinking of a lifting strake.
We just got an 88 ranger 393v mounted the transducer to where the bottom of the boat and transducer are flush. I used the previous owners holes from their old unit. I have a helix 5 di si gen4 so it's the little stubby transducer. I noticed that when I pointed it down like your video said I could finally read depths at 30 mph. Anything over 30 my signal is choppy and sometimes it will give error reading such as 73 feet deep when in reality it's 13. Do I need to drop the transducer down so it's aboutb1/2 to 1/4 below the bottom of the first edge of the boat? Sorry if it's a stupid question, new to all of this
Or just angle it down more? I'm guessing what's happening is when going 30 plus mph the transducer is losing contact w the water?
Are there no mounting instructions with the unit?
I would trust those more than a common angler on TH-cam.
How close can you put two transducer s, Humminbird SI and a Lowrance transducer, opposite sides of the main motor? I already have a Lowrance transducer on the right side, and a kicker on the left of the main motor. How much interference would the kicker do to the Humminbird SI/DI ?
Quick question my hummingbird whenever I turn it on on the side imaging it just looks like lines. Should the transducer be completely submerged in water and parallel with the bottom of the boat or should it be parallel with the water meaning the top should be exposed on the transducer in the bottom should be submerged in water.
Don't follow this dudes install split the transducer 1/2 below 1/2 above the bottom get it in between the chines lookup coin level transducer video on YT go out run ur boat like 5mph bcuz who's scanning on plane bring a level put coins under the level at 5mph to make the level be level get the boat back on trailer put those same amount of coins under the level go up or down on ur trailer jack to make the bubble level now put the level on the transducer level the bubble tighten down make sure u don't throw it outta level when tightening enjoy
Nice video, how about this installation on a high speed reading depth? Still perfect no problem with the depth showing?
great video thank you
The height is set correctly, but the downward angle is the worst idea you can add to SI. Level transducers pick up much more data compared to the downward angle.
DONT FORGET YOU HAVE THE WEIGHT IN THE BOAT SO YOUR TRANSOM IS LOWER IN THWEWATER
@@jamesjenkot5750 yes, you find the angle of a known spot on the floor both left to right and front to back. Pull the boat up on dry land, replicate angles from the water that you measured, and level the transducer both directions. For best SI results, these angles should be measured at the boat speed which the user will use SI the most.
By angling the transducer down, in conjunction with the weight of the transom, this points the SI cone way ahead of the boat and reduces the returns.
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What about wit a pad hull with 2 step down
Xpress hyper lift hull
u have to install sensor at the same side as prop rotation direction to avoid undesired Interference from turbulence
I disagree on drilling bracket screws all the way into the transom. Your saying that those 17 holes on that board are all the way thru the transom?
Smh. Yup. Apparently he’s drilled 17 holes in his boat needlessly. I hope no one follows this video.
hopefully those holes have sealant blocking water from entering the bilge, but I'm not sure about this set up.
Are you mounting a transducer too close to the prop interference
Ok how do I get this to read bottom over 9mph. Do I use this same method. I have down imaging and 2d sonar transducer
Why is the transducer longer than other ones?
What's the point of using a mounting block if you're going to drill into the boat?
By using the mounting block, if you want to reposition the transducer or get a different transducer, you’ll be drilling into the block instead of drilling more holes into the stern. Edit: I didn’t notice that he actually drilled every hole through the block into the transom!
Does it make a difference which way the prop turns ?
Will the same system of transducer installation work on rib or inflatable boat?
Here can I find those plates at? I have a Lund Deep V 18 foot currently never came with those mounting plates. Plus I just purchased the Lowrance 3 in 1 for the Elite T12 what do you suggest for the angle of that transducer? Everything I have seen so far is to mount it level about 1/2 inch below the boat surface any help would be appreciated.
Can i put the transducer directly behind the outboard & not get interference on the screen
Tipping the transducer down in the back lets you see all the way to the surface? How does that work?
when your boat is moving it with angle backwards slightly and this will allow it to run parallel with the water
So Matt you don’t agree with all the guys that say you need to level your transducer while your boat is going roughly 3-4 mph? Doesnt that transducer angle drop even further when you put the boat in gear and add guys and equipment? Thanks for the video!
Also very curious about this!
Wondering as well. I'm installing one tomorrow and it'd be nice to get a quick answer lol
Yeah, he missed the boat on the leveling part.
I have to have mine at a 6 degree pitch up since I sit so low in the rear.
But I’m going to try this and see what my arcs look like.
Where might I find a block of plastic like that?
west marine... might have to stack but that where i found mine.
Will you get interference from the outboard with the transducer mounted that close to the right?
I’ve seen stainless steel crack & break from metal fatigue of constant vibrations.
😂🤣 yea cuz were riding on plane scanning when 3-5 mph is what u wanna be scanning ur transducer level how u want but ima use the coin trick
Whoa. Seriously you’re drilling through the mounting block into the boat? Smh, that totally defeats the purpose of the block which allows adjustments with only the two holes for the block. Also, the transducer shouldn’t even be close to skimming the water if you’re following the Humminbird directions. It will be completely submerged at all times. Lastly you really torqued down on the transducer when you tightened it. It’s better for it to give if you hit something rather than the bracket or transducer ripping off the transom.
Transducer install is on the wrong side if the boat
No such thing. The transducer doesn’t care.
what happens to the transducer during launch and putting it back on the trailer and during transport, does the transducer flip up to protect it? Do you have to use wrenches every time you want to move it up or down? Thanks
No,The transducer doesn’t move at all.Once installed and tightened to desired position,your done messing with it,When the boat gets unloaded and loaded,The transducer isn’t in the way at all.
It’s extremely frustrating that hummingbirds instructions out of the box tell you to mount it too low.
This is good because if you follow humminbirds instructions they have no good place on an aluminum boat
Use a straight edge. Not eyeball.
centre chine more commonly known as a keel
he obviously doesnt answer your questions and doesnt know what hes talking about it seems
This is a terrible video. I hope no one follows it to install a transducer. He’s apparently drilled 17 holes in his transom!
My god… I have never seen someone so wrong about everything but so clueslessly thinking they are right.
You hit shallow and you might be breaking it off that is way to low
Rediculous