You sire are an excellent teacher. I'm 75 and have never heard a better presentation of this process. I also like your vintage boat. We also live on a very scenic lake.
I was smiling like a child when I saw the results of your boat trip! That feeling of not knowing if they worked, and then the amazing result! A breath of fresh air!
Unusual arrangement of "Brandy you're a fine girl" Your creativity amazes me. I cannot understand how you know so well to time the exposures both of the film and the inverse. It's almost frightening.
I love making paper negatives and then contact printing - it is a unique look and feel as you described. I have to admit I had my doubts when I saw you making pinhole negatives on paper on a rocky boat...! But I should never have doubted you; they are wonderful! You have a beautiful boat and the compositions are so interesting (even harder to achieve with pinhole sometimes). As always, thank you Ari :) PS - interesting idea with the black plastic underneath the negative when contact printing. I hadn't considered reflections before.... hmmmmm....
I’ve been binging your channel as you may have noticed from my comments. When it comes to goals I do t know what to say but I think you are the most creative and original photographer I’ve ever seen.
let the paper warp in the back of the camera. i made a camera out of a poloroid body and at first i would load the sheets into the poloroid holder but eventually just set a curved sheet in the back gives a wider fov and some really nice results
Well done! I'm going to give paper negatives a try. On a different note, I see you have a Mercury outboard motor. For a few years, I helped them produce the catalogue/brochure pictures of their motors. Thank you for the video!
I know its an old video but what a wonderful one. Straight to the point and fun. I use this method recently with caffenol P and it helps a lot with taming the contrast.
@@ShootOnFilm - The box has no speed rating. According to Joe Van Cleave’s video, he recommends you empirically test it depending on the season and location. The paper’’s spectral response is in the blue/UV range so it will depend on the amount of UV light being reflected. He found the range would very dramatically between ISO 1.6 and ISO 8. I’m even thinking of trying portraits under UV light for an experiment. Here is his video with the explanation: th-cam.com/video/OM-e_ULgRUU/w-d-xo.html
A creative mind is a joy for ever.., well done! I did the same experience with my 5x7 field camera and scanning the paper negative. Developing the paper in a film developer giving much less harsh results!
Ari, geez, I’ve been shooting film and glass plates for years but haven’t tried shooting paper. As you said, another toolbox item for the photographer. I’m looking forward to trying this out. Many thanks for sharing this content. Inspiring images...
Excellent results - I love the look of them. I've cut 00 Ilord enlarger filter paper as a filter for my 4x5 pinhole camera to cut contrast but have had mixed results. Best wishes -
Wonderful pictures and another great video! I especially like the 1st shot showing the mug and the last one with the front part of your boat. Your video gives me a lot of ideas about how to integrate this technique into my photography. For some weeks I have been experimenting with overexposure solarization and use the ORWO LF10 for it which has ISO6. But this film comes only in 35mm. With photographic paper I could LF for my solarization experiments. We have a 4x5 wooden film camera from my great-grandfather from around 1910 and a 13x18 Mentor which I could use for this technique. Will try that for sure. Thank you so much for the inspiration!
Thanks for sharing such a beautiful experiment! Could you give me a rough estimation of the exposure time with the pin hole camera please? (and if possible the diameter the pin hole!) It would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
The exposure time was around 4 min if the remember correctly. I have not measured the size as LeRouge gives the f number www.lerouge-camera.fr/products/lerouge-45-black Btw. Download Pinhole Assist application. It’s great!
Have you ever tried turn on the overhead lead light while the paper in the developer you halos in the image, definitely not what you want all the time. I think it call solarizing not sure though.
I watched your video on how to shoot with the LeRouge pinhole camera. Thank you for the lesson. I am considering shooting portraits of people in a studio with a home built pinhole camera 80cmx80cm. any advice on painting emulsion on good quality wood board? thank you again. Ricardo, san Miguel de Allende, Mexico.
Well done, thanks for more ideas. I use the Speed Graphic also. I'd like to get ahold of some other lenses. My camera has the Graflex 135mm f4.7 any recommendations on a longer focal length. On another note nice photos and real cool boat.
Speed Graphics are great because you don't need a shutter with the lens. I use all kinds of lenses. So what's next depends on what you want. The one I used on the video was about 220mm. Nice for portraits like this: instagram.com/p/CDNsJoKHdxr/? But, I have chosen not to start to adjust the range finder. So I use the range finder only with the original lens and the ground glass with everything else.
Interesting idea. You say both sheets were wet when you put them together, was it just water for both or was there and developing chemicals involved? I like the way the positives turned out. Thanks.
Nice method -- never tried it before, might do. The "Afghan camera" method is to re-photograph your photo paper photograph again on to photo paper, giving you a positive, not mirrored image. They seem to have done this till a few years ago (or might still do it) to take passport pictures of people as a street business. Never tried this before, but sounds interesting. (They also seem to have coloured the pictures in, with interesting results.)
Interesting how the boat is sharp as the camera slowly moving on waves synchronized with the movement of the boat. You body is the other story though...
I was trying to make chemicals to get black and white slides from scratch but failed terribly, the emulsion peeled off the plastic base, hopefully next time it will work. I will try with photo paper since it's cheaper than film to experiment with until I get it all sorted out. Thanks for the video and the idea! ; )
It's often called Harman -- Harman Direct Positive. Harman and Ilford are the same to my understanding :-) www.ilfordphoto.com/harman-direct-positive-paper-sheets
Great video! I like those contrasty pictures very much, but lets see if those filters are working as you like. I hope you will do a follow up. Just one short question: how long were the exposure times on the boat with the pinhole camera?
Exposure times were hard to estimate. Pinhole, photopaper and on top of that fast clouds that covered the sun every now and then. So when direct sunlight -- a minute -- under clouds two minutes. In a few pictures that changed in the middle of the exposure so I kinda did in between :-)
Hi, I have a question. On a bright sunny day, how long should I expose the pinhole for? The diameter for my pinhole is 0.4mm. Thank you. Regards, Oscar
Friend could I take a photo with a normal photographer paper for printer? Or do I need a sensitive paper, I'm from Mexico and sadly I can't get this paper easily
@@ShootOnFilm I am 22 years old friend and I really would like to make an analog picture but here in Mexico analog photography has died , and it's impossible to get rolls 35 mm , and on internet they have a high cost , I was trying to make a photo with Cyanotype technical, but I was trying to make it with turmeric and alcohol I would really love to create an analog photo with homemade things I love photography but it's expensive analog photos and they are not common now in the place where I live 😞 I will keep searching on TH-cam a way to create an analog photo , greetings friend Jehovah bless you 😊👋🏼
You might want to investigate pre flashing the paper used for the negatives. This will reduce the contrast and slightly increase the effective speed of the paper.
@@ShootOnFilm It's quite a commonly used technique for paper negatives. Google should find plenty of information. Joe Van Cleve has several videos on the topic th-cam.com/users/JoeVCAsearch?query=flashing
yes. "Experiment, experiment, experiment!" said Alexander Rodtschenko. Although I do think it is important to emphasize sticking with a film and a lens, a format, a focal length. and changing a variable at a time (you seem to be doing very well in this regard but I just worry that the film photography enthusiasts are too easily lured by 'this or that film' and 'this or that lens' (ps. your video about film is great in that respect too) - I have to say that I have been able to stick with a film for a while now and had I used it for a short experiment I would have thrown it right out the window, after meticulous research I am able to achieve some warm soft 50s looking street portaits as well as some engraving-like contrasty landscapes all on one film just by chaning the choice of lens and developer, and printing methods. anyway, not a point of dicussion but just somethign to add, thank you Ari, great to have you as an inspiration!
You sire are an excellent teacher. I'm 75 and have never heard a better presentation of this process. I also like your vintage boat. We also live on a very scenic lake.
Thank you, thank you!! And thanks for watching!
I was smiling like a child when I saw the results of your boat trip! That feeling of not knowing if they worked, and then the amazing result! A breath of fresh air!
Thanks, thanks. That is exactly what I also like in these experiments. It's is always a bit of a surprise in the end!!
But my love, my love and my lady is the sea. Nice touch.
Diluting the paper developer can also reduce the contrast. The direct positive papers give even more contrast. Nice video by the way :)
Genius! This was fun! Love the results!
Yay! Thank you!
Nice boat, cool idea and great resultat.
Thanks thanks! :-)
This was amazing to watch
Thanks for watching!
Pinhole on a boat on photo paper... Duly noted on my bucketlist.
yeah, why to make it easy when you can do it difficult :-)
Unusual arrangement of "Brandy you're a fine girl"
Your creativity amazes me. I cannot understand how you know so well to time the exposures both of the film and the inverse. It's almost frightening.
I’m just extremely lucky 😊
I love making paper negatives and then contact printing - it is a unique look and feel as you described. I have to admit I had my doubts when I saw you making pinhole negatives on paper on a rocky boat...! But I should never have doubted you; they are wonderful! You have a beautiful boat and the compositions are so interesting (even harder to achieve with pinhole sometimes). As always, thank you Ari :)
PS - interesting idea with the black plastic underneath the negative when contact printing. I hadn't considered reflections before.... hmmmmm....
Thank you thank you. And as you said, maybe a bit unnecessarily complicated:-)
You're a wizard, Harry!
I’ve been binging your channel as you may have noticed from my comments. When it comes to goals I do t know what to say but I think you are the most creative and original photographer I’ve ever seen.
Wow. That is a bold statement. But thanks. I like it :-)
let the paper warp in the back of the camera. i made a camera out of a poloroid body and at first i would load the sheets into the poloroid holder but eventually just set a curved sheet in the back gives a wider fov and some really nice results
wow! bombastic!!!
Boom!
Excellent! Thanks also for the darkroom tips! I'ma glad to see your vidaos once and again!
Thanks for visiting :-)
That is simply amazing!
Such a great idea, love the images you made, can’t wait to try and do this for myself.
Go for it :-) Simple and fun.
Yea, you should proud of yourself. Great images !
Nice experiment, and a nice boat too 😉!
:-) Yeah, the boat is a lot of fun.
I love this, thank you for the idea. Your content is full of inspiration of how to use your gear in different ways. Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks, thanks :-)
Thank you for sharing your creativity. Truly enjoy your videos.
Thanks thanks. And thanks for watching!
Another good one, thanks. So good to see another Finnish photo related channel growing and doing well. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much!! I truly appreciate your feedback!!
Wow! Love your boat! That is gorgeous! :) btw, you are brilliant.
:-) Thanks
Well done! I'm going to give paper negatives a try. On a different note, I see you have a Mercury outboard motor. For a few years, I helped them produce the catalogue/brochure pictures of their motors. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for watching!! I love the look of these metal hood black Mercury outboards. Loud and thirsty, yes, but pretty. Like a supermodel! :-)
Wow! what revolutionary process!
And a lot of fun.
Excellent !!
Oh, thanks!
Excellent results and quite intriguing!
Thanks, thank you!!
Can't wait to try this method 😊
Hope you like it!
I know its an old video but what a wonderful one. Straight to the point and fun. I use this method recently with caffenol P and it helps a lot with taming the contrast.
Excellent. I should probably try it also with caffenol then!
greatly appreciate your work as well !
Thanks for watching!!!
unique prints And beautiful boat
:-) Thanks!
I did this back in the early 50s with a 1/4 plate canmera (when I was a youngster!)...
So you know the thrill 😊
I have to agree with others what a great idea 😎👍
:-) it’s a lot of fun!
SO COOL!!!! And the images are fantastic!
Thanks, thanks. It really is an interesting way to take pictures!
Magnificent. I love experiments. I have a box of the Ilford direct positive paper that I’m waiting to find the right subject for.
Cool. What is the ISO / ASA value for the Ilford paper?
@@ShootOnFilm - The box has no speed rating. According to Joe Van Cleave’s video, he recommends you empirically test it depending on the season and location. The paper’’s spectral response is in the blue/UV range so it will depend on the amount of UV light being reflected. He found the range would very dramatically between ISO 1.6 and ISO 8. I’m even thinking of trying portraits under UV light for an experiment. Here is his video with the explanation: th-cam.com/video/OM-e_ULgRUU/w-d-xo.html
@@qnetx ooh, that's interesting. No wonder I haven't been able to find any figure. Thanks for explaining!
A creative mind is a joy for ever.., well done! I did the same experience with my 5x7 field camera and scanning the paper negative. Developing the paper in a film developer giving much less harsh results!
That’s a good idea to limit the contrast!
Very inventive! And actually very impressive!
Thanks, thanks!! :-)
Ari, geez, I’ve been shooting film and glass plates for years but haven’t tried shooting paper. As you said, another toolbox item for the photographer. I’m looking forward to trying this out. Many thanks for sharing this content. Inspiring images...
Thank you, thank you! Yeah, when you think about photography just as light on a light-sensitive surface, you can do all kinds of silly things :-)
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Thanks for watching!
inspiring. thank you.
You are so welcome!
What a great video. You shoud have more subscribers
Maybe -- but I already got the best :-)
Excellent action camera.
It is!
Very interesting way of making beautiful results. Well don
Thanks!!!
Excellent results - I love the look of them. I've cut 00 Ilord enlarger filter paper as a filter for my 4x5 pinhole camera to cut contrast but have had mixed results. Best wishes -
I believe it would be best to get single contrast / low contrast paper then?
@@ShootOnFilm I think so. I've heard a straight grade 2 paper works well but I've not tried it.
Impressive technique. :)
:-)
Awesome!
🙂
Thinking out of the (camera) box!
.... rebel!
Wonderful pictures and another great video! I especially like the 1st shot showing the mug and the last one with the front part of your boat.
Your video gives me a lot of ideas about how to integrate this technique into my photography. For some weeks I have been experimenting with overexposure solarization and use the ORWO LF10 for it which has ISO6. But this film comes only in 35mm. With photographic paper I could LF for my solarization experiments. We have a 4x5 wooden film camera from my great-grandfather from around 1910 and a 13x18 Mentor which I could use for this technique. Will try that for sure. Thank you so much for the inspiration!
Excellent, excellent! That sounds like a very good idea!
you can experiment with flashing the paper before using it. it will help wiht the contrast
Thanks for sharing such a beautiful experiment! Could you give me a rough estimation of the exposure time with the pin hole camera please? (and if possible the diameter the pin hole!)
It would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
The exposure time was around 4 min if the remember correctly. I have not measured the size as LeRouge gives the f number www.lerouge-camera.fr/products/lerouge-45-black
Btw. Download Pinhole Assist application. It’s great!
The pictures in the boat remind me of "the nexus" from the Star trek somehow. The direct positive paper is easier to process, but costlier of course.
You are right -- there is a time traveler feeling in some of those :-)
Have you ever tried turn on the overhead lead light while the paper in the developer you halos in the image, definitely not what you want all the time. I think it call solarizing not sure though.
Oh that’s an interesting idea!!!
I watched your video on how to shoot with the LeRouge pinhole camera. Thank you for the lesson. I am considering shooting portraits of people in a studio with a home built pinhole camera 80cmx80cm. any advice on painting emulsion on good quality wood board?
thank you again. Ricardo, san Miguel de Allende, Mexico.
Thanks thanks. Hey, sorry I cannot help you with emulsion on wooden surface. Have no experience on that.
Well done, thanks for more ideas. I use the Speed Graphic also. I'd like to get ahold of some other lenses. My camera has the Graflex 135mm f4.7 any recommendations on a longer focal length.
On another note nice photos and real cool boat.
Speed Graphics are great because you don't need a shutter with the lens. I use all kinds of lenses. So what's next depends on what you want. The one I used on the video was about 220mm. Nice for portraits like this: instagram.com/p/CDNsJoKHdxr/? But, I have chosen not to start to adjust the range finder. So I use the range finder only with the original lens and the ground glass with everything else.
Interesting idea. You say both sheets were wet when you put them together, was it just water for both or was there and developing chemicals involved? I like the way the positives turned out. Thanks.
Just water. That’s how they stay better together.
Like 128💓👍
At first I thought: "eh.. it will be shit".. but then you showed the pictures and you are right, those are definitely interesting!
Yeah thanks. Not "good" in a standard way but as you said, interesting.
Nice method -- never tried it before, might do. The "Afghan camera" method is to re-photograph your photo paper photograph again on to photo paper, giving you a positive, not mirrored image. They seem to have done this till a few years ago (or might still do it) to take passport pictures of people as a street business. Never tried this before, but sounds interesting. (They also seem to have coloured the pictures in, with interesting results.)
Yeah. I’ve been thinking about building an Afghan camera some day …. 😊
Interesting how the boat is sharp as the camera slowly moving on waves synchronized with the movement of the boat. You body is the other story though...
Yeah, my body is pretty flexible :-)
I was trying to make chemicals to get black and white slides from scratch but failed terribly, the emulsion peeled off the plastic base, hopefully next time it will work.
I will try with photo paper since it's cheaper than film to experiment with until I get it all sorted out. Thanks for the video and the idea! ; )
Thanks and good luck with your experiment. Let me know how it goes! :-)
Magic
😊
Ari, What is the ilford photo paper that is a negative as well as a positive?
It's often called Harman -- Harman Direct Positive. Harman and Ilford are the same to my understanding :-) www.ilfordphoto.com/harman-direct-positive-paper-sheets
Great video! I like those contrasty pictures very much, but lets see if those filters are working as you like. I hope you will do a follow up.
Just one short question: how long were the exposure times on the boat with the pinhole camera?
Exposure times were hard to estimate. Pinhole, photopaper and on top of that fast clouds that covered the sun every now and then. So when direct sunlight -- a minute -- under clouds two minutes. In a few pictures that changed in the middle of the exposure so I kinda did in between :-)
@@ShootOnFilm Thanks! They have a very nice vibe, i like them alot!
Hi, I have a question. On a bright sunny day, how long should I expose the pinhole for? The diameter for my pinhole is 0.4mm. Thank you.
Regards,
Oscar
Oh, that's tough. depends on your film. 0.3 sec - 2 sec ballpark
You probably already know this but pre-flashing the “taking” paper will lower its contrast a bit.
Just found your channel; good stuff.
Yes, I know. I've done that with color-positive film to also add latitude a bit. Thanks for watching!!
I have a question, can i use ilford photographic paper like this?
Yes.
What was the used speed for the photographs?
Varied. Up to 60 seconds . Pinhole 4 mins
Friend could I take a photo with a normal photographer paper for printer?
Or do I need a sensitive paper, I'm from Mexico and sadly I can't get this paper easily
Unfortunately, you need light-sensitive paper for this.
@@ShootOnFilm I am 22 years old friend and I really would like to make an analog picture but here in Mexico analog photography has died , and it's impossible to get rolls 35 mm , and on internet they have a high cost , I was trying to make a photo with Cyanotype technical, but I was trying to make it with turmeric and alcohol
I would really love to create an analog photo with homemade things I love photography but it's expensive analog photos and they are not common now in the place where I live 😞
I will keep searching on TH-cam a way to create an analog photo , greetings friend
Jehovah bless you 😊👋🏼
You might want to investigate pre flashing the paper used for the negatives. This will reduce the contrast and slightly increase the effective speed of the paper.
That’s a good idea. I’ve done the same for color positives to increase latitude. Excellent idea. I will try it!
@@ShootOnFilm It's quite a commonly used technique for paper negatives. Google should find plenty of information. Joe Van Cleve has several videos on the topic th-cam.com/users/JoeVCAsearch?query=flashing
I would love to do that - but I don't have a boat ;(
:-) .... yeah ....
You shouldn't show me these kinds of things - makes me want to do it as well. lol The sailors say Ari, he's a fine dude.....😁
Haa! But why not 😊
yes. "Experiment, experiment, experiment!" said Alexander Rodtschenko. Although I do think it is important to emphasize sticking with a film and a lens, a format, a focal length. and changing a variable at a time (you seem to be doing very well in this regard but I just worry that the film photography enthusiasts are too easily lured by 'this or that film' and 'this or that lens' (ps. your video about film is great in that respect too) - I have to say that I have been able to stick with a film for a while now and had I used it for a short experiment I would have thrown it right out the window, after meticulous research I am able to achieve some warm soft 50s looking street portaits as well as some engraving-like contrasty landscapes all on one film just by chaning the choice of lens and developer, and printing methods. anyway, not a point of dicussion but just somethign to add, thank you Ari, great to have you as an inspiration!
Thanks thank!! :-)
Turning a negative print into a positive is such a strange experience, very interesting to do though
The result is , well, different :-)
Classic
Thanks