The Hilariously Bad KISS TV Movie (KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park) (Movie Nights) (ft. The QLP)
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- KISS, a band with superpowers, must fight evil robots of themselves after a vengeful theme park employee has had enough. This somehow happened. My friends from the Quantum Leap Podcast join me to figure out what we just watched.
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I feel like this came from a similar place - culturally, creatively, perhaps pharmaceutically - as the Star Wars Holiday Special.
Thinking the same thing! Back in the '70s, this is just what was done: you get hugely successful and they slap you on a variety show. And it almost ALWAYS went badly.
I was also thinking of the Star Wars Holiday Special when they said about it airing once on TV and never again.
Television executives in the seventies had the best drugs.
@@lanceturley7745 More specifically Cocaine, it was the seventies after all, which explains most of the film's of that era, one of my favorite examples being "The Thing with Two Heads" (1972).
Yes, they were both born from the same pile of coke in the programming director's office. Triplets actually, the third being _The Brady Bunch Variety Hour_ .
This movie answers the question, "Is it possible for cheerful sellouts to hate their own selling out?" And the answer is yes.
And years later one of them would be in a Folger's coffee commercial.
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@@Friend2AllCats Me too, and I'm not even a big Kiss fan!
The actual secret connection between this and Spice World? Platform shoes~
In the US there were only 3 "Big Networks" and the thinking was "They Can Either Watch What We Throw Together Or Nothing". So they thought "Throw Something Together With Kiss In It And People Will Watch".
This was originally pitched to the band as A Hard Days Night meets Star Wars. Now I wonder if they meant A New Hope or The Holiday Special 🤔
Definitely not the holiday special. That one's too good when compared to the KISS movie (which is also not related to the Paul Lynde Halloween Special!)
More like the Turtle Christmas, both from NYC
@@igorszamaszow171 Gotta love We Wish You a Turtle Christmas!
Could have been Turkish Star Wars?
I remember seeing a Family Guy episode once where there was a running gag about a Kiss Christmas special where they save Santa from pterodactyls, so I guess I should've expected something like this existing, but I didn't want to believe it.
Sadly the public Access show from that episode is real.
So this is how they find the park that will become KISSWORLD in that Scooby Doo movie?
HBO's Kissworld
I mean, at least that one explains the superpowers. They're interdimensional heroes from Kissteria. Obviously.
It's not just a cash grab. Gene Simmons genuinely loves comic books.
And yes, KISS is in the Marvel Universe. They've fought Doctor Doom.
also to mention the "Kiss: Psycho Circus" by image comics :D
@@qu4dq0r3 Didn't Kiss also meet the X-Men in one comic?
The movie was still a cash grab though.
.... Gene Simmons loves money most of all lol
Valdagast oh sweet
" They're looking for someone...but it's not KISS." - Starchild
@@Friend2AllCats ⭐👅⚡🐱 😁
That "Kiss Path to Fame" needed to be drawn out of a line of pure cocaine to really captured how Casablanca Records was making their decisions back then.
One word explains everything about this movie. And that word is "cocaine."
70s cocaine kiss is wild man
According to ex-KISS Drummer, Peter Criss, The Catman, his voice was re-dubbed due to the fact that the director of the film said that he couldn't understand Peter's thick Italian accent. When it came time to re-dub dialogue that couldn't be heard, Peter wasn't brought in to do it and they brought in voice actor, Michael Bell the voice of Duke on the 80s G.I. Joe cartoon. Peter was furious however at the fact he was re-dubbed and Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley told the media that he refused to show up when in fact he wanted to and wasn't allowed.
Finally, someone reviewed this movie. It’s as infamous as The Star Wars Holiday Special. Ironically, they did it because they were told it was going to be like Star Wars.
Believe it or not, this made it to U.S. theaters as well...IN 1983! It used the _KISS - Attack of the Phantoms_ title and played scattered dates in NYC. God knows how, why or by whom an old TV movie was dusted off for such a release. It's just the weirdest thing in the world to me.
Really excited to see MODELLAND in the background there. A modern classic!
I hope we get a video on that!
Foreshadowing
This is one of those things that seems like a really good idea on paper. And then you see it and groan in pain.
Sees title:
*Oooo wonder if she will have Kiss aesthetic*
Sees makeup:
"YSSS!"
4:05 Burst out laughing at this one in particular lol GOOD LORD and that was it sped up!! 💀
“As a cat owner, Allison, are you offended?”
ALSO LAUGHED
Thank you! (also most of the walking footage was sped up 400%)
@@AllisonPregler FOUR HUNDRED???!!!!
This wasn't even the most notorious cash-grab Kiss committed in 1978.
I feel that would have been the solo albums project.
If I may say so, Allison's glam rock getup is really hot.
Also, "Everything was very yellow and it seemed like everyone was depressed because of Vietnam" is the most apt description of 70's media I've ever heard.
quote at 25:12
I just want to put it out there: I have had many interactions with Paul Stanley and he is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. Does not act like a mega rock star. I assume it is because of the fact that when he is out of make up he just looks like a dude. Bonus the most polite children in the world. Just letting the world know Paul Stanley is rad.
Ace Frehley and Peter Criss have a sense of humor and can laugh about the movie. Gene and Paul are the band members with sticks up their asses about the movie.
I thought it was a Family Guy joke... Turns out it's true... I DON'T BELIEVE IT!
I think my favourite Movie Nights gag is the captions being overlaid in line with the narration: "Twas Beauty that.. defe... defeated the beast... or whatever" Pure Poetry.
I'm kind of a Kiss nerd, and here's a couple of fun facts. All the Peter Criss dialog was re-done by the fellow who played "Zan" from the wonder twins. Peter Criss simply refused to show up for looping. And the Ace Frehley stunt double story is, Ace showed up at 8am after staying up all night partying. And they told him they wouldn't need him till 1 in the afternoon, so he just left.
If only I knew gluing a single resistor to someone's neck could take over their mind.
Science is based on fact, so it's hard to argue how this works.
You should play Paul Stanley’s “I don’t believe it!” With Thunder
In Paradise’s Brutus’ “I can’t believe it!” Back to back.
And finish it off with that dog from that commercial saying "Believe it!"
C'mon cannon make it happen!
my uncle was a huge kiss fan and taped this off tv when it originally aired... i watched it a lot as a kid and remember seeing the late 70s commercials on it and fast forwarding through them... and through the first half of the film until the band appeared....
The modern kiss lineup has been replace by animatronics too.
I have a bootleg DVD of the original version that aired in 78 😂
The villain looks like David Warner cosplaying as Paul McCartney.
He might be Gul Madred in disguise looking to prevent picards birth
As someone who is discovering Alison like ten years too late, and this video two years too late, I feel gypped for missing out, yet lucky as hell to now have a decade of content to enjoy.
Might I suggest the "Pocket Monsters" review if you have yet to see it? If I had to pick a quintessential "this is what OL is" video to demonstrate for someone else, Pocket Monsters would be my example.
@@zmbdog I think you mean "Pocket Ninjas" and yes, that is quintessential "Obscurus Lupa Presents"-era Allison.
Not as insane as that weird Scooby Doo crossover.
That one was just filled with WTF moments.
I'm pretty sure this is a prequel to that Scooby Doo crossover. I mean, KISS has the same damn superpowers in both movies IIRC.
the Scooby movie was pretty fun - i LOVED the magical girl transformations
this move is... kinda fun? if you watch and riff with friends
@@RoseWaltz also, Jack Kirby-esque background int he alternate world
Databyte Productions I’m aware that they met Scooby doo
Somehow, I ended up watching this when it originally aired on TV. I had just recently turned 4 and had no idea who KISS was. I remember thinking it was really scary and confusing, as I thought the band were the bad guys and couldn't figure out why they were fighting themselves. When this movie (supposedly suppressed by the band for years) finally became available again in the 2000s, my wife and I sat down to watch it. Only then did I realize the scary bad guys from this dimly remembered bit of my childhood was were KISS!
Still remember about ten years ago Ace sung New York Groove to open the New York Rangers season and he was HAMMERED!
“Kiss! Tonight! Kiss! Three great nights! Kiss! Tonight, in concert! Tonight.”
_KISS meets The Phantom of the Park_ was filmed and aired in 1978, but Magic Mountain was not sold to Six Flags until 1979, and it was in 1980 that it became known as _Six Flags Magic Mountain_
I was waiting for one of the “I don’t believe it”s to be from Thunder in Paradise.
I kinda hope your podcast costars do more Movie Night specials.
Old school Dr. Who had cheesy effects, but, unlike this, it had good writing and characters!
Also some really sound actors with stage experience, who could flub lines and recover from that as one would on stage - and often the camera kept running and the television audience saw it.
@@markiangooley Well, this did have Anthony Zerbe, who would be right at home in Dr. Who adventure.
I was a confused little kid when this was shown on tv - I was too young to be listening to KISS records, and I didn’t understand the lyrics, but I was entertained by their theatrics, and the songs were catchy enough. *I also had read the comic book from Marvel* , so I knew about the superpowers and the talisman ; and STILL the movie made little to no sense ; but the songs were still catchy. I remember how happily undemanding everyone was in the 1970s.
This is the Star Wars Holiday special of music themed movies.
Back in the 70's,when my brother Matt and I were kids,he was a total KISS fan...he would eventually become a professional rock musician....anyone out there familiar with the late 90's band Bender?...funny thing is,to this day I still don't know what he thought of this movie way back then. I can guess,though....I was a rabid Star wars fan,but even I didn't like the Holiday Special!
Let's face it,a 70's TV movie was not the medium these guys should've chosen. It's a pity Todd MacFarlane wasn't active at the time.
This got me to start watching quantum leap and now there's a character I'm going to have to refer to as John "Didn't know he was in the quantum leap pilot" court from now on.
Hell yeah!
I love how Quantum Leap really does open so many doors
Howard the Duck made a cameo.....meaning KISS is coming
KISS meets the Phantom of the Park was an incredible movie WHEN IT WAS RELEASED.
I think that movie was made both as a feeler to see if KISS was big enough to carry a Saturday Morning show for the younger audience and it was a publicity gimmick to increase their popularity and provide a huuuuge plug for Six Flags.
You have to bear in mind that this was done before the popularity of music video well before MTV launched. If I am not mistaken this movie was also launched in tandem with one of their albums or concert tours, but don't quote me on that.
When I was a young kid this movie was awesome, but Salem's Lot was also scary as a two-part mini-series.
But, of course, as I am typing this at 7:20, Allison is somewhat saying the same thing.
I can see the hokey with this movie now, but in 1977, this was paramount and if you did not watch it you were NOTHING at school because this was even before VHS was big in homes.
I did purchase the foreign version on DVD years later but it was cut completely different than I remember.
Thank-you for doing this review of a movie that would be considered a waste of time but you brought new understanding as well as the party atmosphere needed to enjoy the movie..."Smoke 'em if you got 'em..." Lol
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"if you did not watch it you were NOTHING at school" You are correct. I was pretty young at the time but I sure remember the older kids at school talking about this movie. More directly relevant to the kids in my own grade around this time was the now notorious Star Wars Holiday Special. Nearly every one of the kids in my class was raving about it the morning after (well, we were just 6 and 7 years old so what did we know). Every one but me - I had my mum take me to see a Japanese science fiction movie that night instead for reasons that seemed good at the time. Did I ever feel left out. I still haven't managed to make it through the whole Holiday Special but I've watched Phantom of The Park!
I know saw it back then -- I remember the magic eye lasers and the talismans -- but I don't remember the kids at school talking about it. However, I do remember our babysitter being a big fan. I remember her going on and on about it while watching me (9 or 10) and my brother (5 or 6).
"if you did not watch it you were NOTHING at school"
It’s funny you say that because I was 11 and in grade school when this came out neither my brother (12) or I liked Kiss at all (or the people who listened to them, who were all bullies) but since we were already “nothing” at our school, we figured we’d watch it anyway just so people wouldn’t have an extra reason to bully us. We were really into old b&w/early color horror & science fiction films (as well as Star Wars etc), and thought it might at least be entertaining on that kind of level. Plus, we really wanted to go to Magic Mountain & figured we’d get to see some of what the park looked like.
We were HOWLING with laughter at how bad it was, and completely tore the film a new asshole even as we were watching it. We fully made fun of them sitting by the pool in full makeup/costume in those stupid giant chairs. The bad acting, the ultra low budget SPFX that were bad even for the time, the crappy plot, everything. We watched it the same way we loved to hate watch the syndicated reruns terribly plotted/animated cartoons from the late 1960s like Spider-Man and the original, unredeemed Space Ghost and were extremely entertained in a way that I’m sure that nobody associated with the film would have been happy with.
In contrast, we *loved* the Star Wars Holiday Special, which though being bad, was bad in an entirely different way LOL.
The fart noise music is making me hyperventilate OMG 🤣🤣🤣
31:32 Ozzy Osbourne: "I'm gonna bite off the head of this live bat onstage!"
Gene Simmons: "Oh, yeah? Just take a look at _this!_ "
The bat was unintentional someone threw it up there he thought it was fake
@@N3rv3d4m4g3 Nuh-uh, it was totally on purpose, just like how Gene Simmons tried to one-up Ozzy on it a good four years before he did it.
@@U014B Wasn't he rushed to the hospital afterwards for rabies shots though?? I'd have thought if it was planned that he would have received those preemptively. Then again; maybe it only occured to him afterwards.
Also it's apparently still not clear if it was dead or alive when he bit its head off. Either way: poor bat 😕
Pedantic comment: It's not an ad for "Six Flags". This was released in 1978, and Magic Mountain was sold to Six Flags in 1979.
When shooting this there might also have been some of the usual rock star problems. A friend of mine was a producer who did a couple of Kiss music videos in the 70’s before MTV. He said Peter Criss was so wasted they had to carry him from his trailer to the drum kit, wake him up, and tell him to try and look like he was drumming.
All good things are sealed... with the band KISS
Oh God!! I was a huge KISS fan when I was a young tyke in the 70s. I remember this!! I know it’s awful but I want to see this again.
There’s a two-part Lynda Carter Wonder Woman episode from 1979 called “The Phantom of the Roller Coaster,” that was also filmed at Magic Mountain... and has a similar incoherent plot.
From what I remember, the fundamental problem in many of the scenes is that the members of Kiss were looking directly at the camera while saying their lines. Maybe the director thought breaking the fourth wall would be funny, but it happens over and over.
I had this one on VHS for some reason. Watched it once, then it went back in the box.
4:11- So in other words, there's more walking in this film than there is driving in Manos: The Hands of Fate.
I was also thinking Scooby-Doo before you brought it up.
I admit that I have seen Spice World, because my sister was into the Spice Girls at the time.
18:41- I also heard that back when Linkara was reviewing a couple issues of the Kiss Comics on Atop the Fourth Wall.
25:27- Thank God that movies like Jaws and Star Wars: A New Hope got us the hell out of the depressing 70s.
I'm not an expert of KISS, but I know who Gene Simmons is. Also, he acted better as the radio DJ in the hard rock horror film Trick or Treat.
29:24- He chose...poorly.
Peter Criss was such a pain. That all his lines are done by a voiceover actor.
While watching this, I was thinking, "Gee, Peter sounds a lot like Michael Bell." Then it hit me, "Hang on, he was dubbed by Michael Bell!"
Once again Peter Criss puts in as little work as possible.
ALTERNATE JOKE:
Peter Griffin was right; NOBODY wants to be Peter Criss, not even Peter Criss.
23:49 First appearance of LEON model replicant. That scientist was really ahead of his time!
13:34 It's funny that they pretend this kind of lyrics wouldn't be accepted by the fans when the albums 'Creatures Of The Night' and 'Revenge' are deeply influenced by Heavy Metal and are some of the best regarded LPs in their catalogue.
I remember seeing this many (many, many.....god.....MANY) decades ago while in elementary school and thinking it was awesome.
Now, I truly believe I would need some sort of enhancement.
Loosely translated: I would have to be really, really drunk.
imagine being a little kid KISS fan with the figures in the 70s. when this came out we memorized the action scenes and would have half of us be real KISS and the other half evil robots. before vhs got widespread, you had to remember how the action movies went in your brain.
we did the same thing with Superman ii and The Empire Strikes Back
Anthony Zerbe is so good in this. this is how you play a supervillain.
Brion James is in this! 80s cred all the way. he's awesome in Blade Runner
Probably wise then that this was made for television in America and wasn’t theatrically released there, like it was in other countries.
Please review Tanya's Island. It was done in 1980 or 81. It stars Denise Matthews otherwise known as Vanity. She was billed as DD Winters in this movie. She went on to front the Prince produced girl group Vanity 6 & was supposed to be in Purple Rain with him but she ended up leaving him. This movie is, well... You'll see......
Yay, so happy to see another episode of movie nights!
And that awesome, awesome song to play again :)
I actually thought although it’s cheesy at times, it’s actually good. But it’s 100x better than the Star Wars Holiday special
Hearing vision is the stupidest superpower ever and I love it.
Is the idea that Paul is using his eye powers to read their lips? Wait, why am I trying to make sense of this?
The idea was cocaine just cocaine
absolutely love the reaction shots of a cohost silently but visibly disagreeing with something being said. also props for the editing in general!
Always fun when KISS shows up in a film🎤🥁🎸🎶🎸
I am absolutely loving Matt's facial expressions throughout this (19:17, 26:54).
The Phantom talk kinda makes me think, either The Phantom with Billy Zane or Phantom of the Paradise would be solid choices for movies you could cover on here. Not like I think you have any shortage of topics, mind you, but both are interesting films i don't see much talk about.
I has a sad for no "Kiss saves Christmas!"
You guys should watch Scooby-Doo! And Kiss: Rock and Roll Mystery (2015) that oddly enough also takes place at an amusement park.
Nobody mentioned that the bad guy looks like Budget David Warner? Take it away, Paul...
"I DON'T BELIEVE IT!"
OMG, I do remember this disaster. Hi, all! My memory is of how dreadful it was and KISS fans mostly hated it.
Wait, it's called Phantom Of The Park but it's not a Kiss version of The Phantom Of The Opera? What a missed opportunity!
Who else is counting down to the second annual Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park review?
In the future don't say that a woman is "preggers" say she's "preglers" in honor of the countless hours of entertainment you've gotten from "the cannon" Alison Pregler!
Poor Anthony Zerbe, aged to death. Whenever I see him in a film, I know he's going to die horribly. I've also seen him dropped off a cliff, turned inside out, dropped off ANOTHER cliff, and I've seen his head squashed into a pancake! No happy endings for Anthony Zerbe!
The end = they're trying to say that if you hate kiss you're old.
So, since you reviewed this Kiss movie, mentioned Hanna Barbara, and compared it to Scooby-Doo, does that mean you will review Scooby-Doo Meets Kiss in the future? I think some of this movie explains some of the things in that movie.
I’m ten years older than the oldest of you, I think...
Cool to see Leon Kowalski in one of his early jobs as one of the security guards.
Even though I saw parts of this, my brain kept insisting the "park" was New York's Central Park, not a theme park. I think it was an attempt to save my brain from the truth.
This is such a funny episode, a real standout. I keep coming back to watch it! You guys are all hilarious
Look, the dude had audio-vision, that's standard stuff really....no no it's just insane.
KISS as superheroes in a Scooby Doo episode?! It really IS "cold gin time again!"
Hey there video from over two years ago! I am saddened at no one commenting on the late, great, Brion James at 23:48.
I had this on VHS back in the day and watched it so many times.
I'm genuinely a little surprised that it doesn't have a proper -- AVAILABLE -- DVD release, given how much Gene loves money, and that the Scooby Doo movie they did with KISS is, frankly, the same plot.
Hey! Spice World may be terrible....
But that meta bus joke is actually great.
Yes, the robot KISS sounded like KISS but I always thought they were supposed to be a "bad" version in the sense that... a) the song is terrible (it's not an actual KISS song, it's a re-written "Hotter Than Hell")
and... b) that maybe the song was supposed to incite the crowd to violence or something ("Rip and Destroy")? idk, that was the impression I got. And at least it gave me one because so much of this film left me dumbfounded. I'm still struggling to wrap my head around Paul's visual-hearing superpower.
OK this was a relic of the cheesy 1970s Amusement Parks another fad of the fad decade anyways the best line "That does not compute, Star Child" you missed it!
35:16 That's a really good Humidibot impression, Allison!
I wonder if Elisa Hansen knows about this particular “Phantom”?
I fucking dig this opening music. I'm always dancing on my couch to it. Also please please ask RLM to be on one of their episodes. You review alot of their prior movies so it makes sense.
Happy Birthday Alison
I'm not even joking when I say this is # 5 in my top 5 movies of all time list, I watched it every weekend as a child!! Just discovered this channel, gotta catch up on all the other vids 😳
This guy Christopher is my new Man Crush Monday. Great Video!
This movie is so deliciously aweful. It looks like a student film.
Phantom of the park sounds like a jolly load of nonsense! Does this count as a version of Phantom of the Opera? I suppose the name is mere coincidence.
Great to see Matt and Chris (I'm a regular QLP listener).
Thanks!
And the background music at the end is new York Grove covered by Ace frehley.
Good choice.
When KISS was active, I was absolutely terrified of Gene Simmons. I probably should have seen this movie at the time, but I would have avoided it. Of course then I'd go straight into AC/DC and the antics of Ozzy Osbourne.