Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - MasterClass: masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off 1:33 - WolframAlpha and ChatGPT 21:14 - Computation and nature of reality 48:06 - How ChatGPT works 1:47:48 - Human and animal cognition 2:01:07 - Dangers of AI 2:09:27 - Nature of truth 2:30:49 - Future of education 3:06:51 - Consciousness 3:15:50 - Second Law of Thermodynamics 3:39:23 - Entropy 3:52:23 - Observers in physics 4:09:15 - Mortality
In relation to computation & the nature of reality, we have to realize (We don't know what we don't know), & (We need to always assume there is something else we are missing). For example with the QCD there is the conservation of "Color" but this doesn't reference back to the conservation of energy via momentum exchange dynamics. The reason why this is important = (RGB) colored legos fut together nicely by color & integer values, but that doesn't reference back to the interrelations of energy density interactions, and the conservation of energy. We could be developing predictive models that intermediately (through calcs) do something different than what the system is doing, but still render the right answers, we need to be able to relate these proportionalities & predictive models to a the actual momentum exchange dynamics.
When we realize that we don't find the full picture, & that there is more to know, it can lead to more things we realize we care about. I think if we all remain honest while looking for answers and new physical dynamics, we will find more things that we care about. New things that we couldn't have known about if we didn't look.
Wolfram is my absolute favourite guest, he has such a unique way of thinking encapsulating many different subjects to form a bigger picture hypothesis. Lex also asks great questions
I agree, the whole episode was amazing but if I have to be honest the last hour and a half blew my mind, especially towards the end. The way he explains and talk about things is so much more digestible. Probably one of the best science communicators alive!
Then, he basically stopped real science careers or even basic understanding for you! He is a science terminator. He has no clue and no respect of science. He has a cult.
Lex is the true MVP because the question "what is your favorite candy" is directly followed up with "do you think that consciousness is fundamentally computational" 😂
Why is it that out of all the mind-bending revelations in this discussion, the ONE thing I'm likely to remember is that Stephen Wolfram's favourite chocolate is the humble Flake?!
⏱Timestamps for this video! 0:00 - Mathematicians Trying to Figure out Computational Systems 0:51 - Introduction to Stephen Wolfram 1:45 - Technical Differences Between ChatGPT and Wolfram Alpha 12:14 - Computational reducibility 13:17 - Finding pockets of reducibility 19:29 - Discovery Ahead of Schedule, Keeps Things Interesting 22:04 - Defining the General Observer 24:40 - Limitations of Science 32:25 - Representing Natural Language in a Computational Language 39:08 - Learning Computational Thinking 45:03 - Debugging 47:57 - The Nature of Language 52:48 - Discovering the Laws of Language 58:13 - The Construction Kit for Making Semantically Correct Sentences 1:07:13 - The relationship between natural language, thought, and computation 1:13:31 - Understanding the workings of ChatGPT 1:15:04 - The Neural Net Model; 1:21:06 - ChatGPT; 1:31:15 - The potential of AI tutoring and individualized teaching 1:33:27 - The changing nature of knowledge and learning 1:35:06 - AI and Specialization 1:35:52 - Defining Objectives for AI 1:47:49 - Existential Risks of AI 1:49:24 - The Apex Intelligence 1:56:31 - The invention of language and its impact on our intelligence 2:01:19 - The threat of AI and exponential growth 2:07:25 - The Fundamental Problem of Computer Security and Computational Irreducibility 2:09:01 - The Nature of Truth and Computational Contracts 2:19:44 - The Importance of Computational Language 2:28:34 - Thresholds and Unknowns in Technology 2:30:54 - Limitations of factual output in AI systems 2:32:13 - Democratizing access to computation and redefining programming education 2:39:56 - The birth of computer science departments 2:41:55 - Understanding the science of LLMs 2:50:30 - Origins of Computational Thinking 2:56:12 - Future of Computing Education 3:00:55 - Realizing Obligation to Write About CX 3:07:21 - Consciousness and Computation 3:11:15 - Language Models and Emotions" 3:13:15 - The Future of Large Language Models" 3:25:12 - Interest in Complexity and Artificial Physics 3:32:11 - Computational Reducibility and the Middle Column of Rule 30 3:36:27 - The Story of a Computationally Bounded Observer 3:39:34 - The History and Definition of Entropy 3:45:28 - The discreteness of matter and space 3:46:41 - Discovering the discreetness of space 3:57:05 - Existence and Computation 3:57:28 - Rules and Laws in the Universe 🧙♂✨ Generated with Houdini Chrome extension.
Did you mean figurative or real strings, if so the latter, he could maybe use ChatGpt for tolling the transitions to make it seamless. Still it could just be a recursive for all Chat GPt guest to markup all the best qualities of A.I. Homage to HAL without missing any octets.
This was truly one of the most insightful podcasts I've listened to in a long time. Lex, your podcasts provide intellectual stimulation in a sea of mediocrity. Your guests are captivating and possess immense knowledge, and as always, the timing is excellent. 👌🏽 I’m hyped!
I think Wolfram has improved the ability to explain his concepts since the last interview, either that or I’m a little better at understanding. Or I’m more deluded than the last time 😂
Or you were given a memory implant. Or there was a disruption in the spacetime continuum. Or he was replaced by a shapeshifter controlled by the lizard people.
this is so phenomenal, Wolfram is one my favorite guests and he explores those concepts in a somewhat accessible manner without dumbing it down. Благодарю Лекс.
Да, оч круто) Хотя Вольфрам частенько переводит вопросы Лекса в свой математический контекст))) Такой: "Да, но ввиду вычислительной несводимости..." )))) Но и это интересно)
@@enlightenment5d ну а как ты хотел, я пытаюсь углубиться в этот материал но его к сожеланию мало, вольфрам вообще не очень хочет что-либо формализировать пока
@@kirillholt2329 look at lections of Marko Rodin - you will be amazed how simple and beautiful it all may be ! BTW, it would be great to see meeting of Marko Rodin and Wolfram
I'm thinking the same thing. I've known of wolfram and its "products" but I'mm listening him for the first time. He is absolutely fantastic in locking your attention, explaining it the right way with such innovative view of the world.
This is an incredible interview. Wolfram is so relaxed, lays out so much information, so self-disinterested. This is really something special. If it takes 3 or 4 parts to get there, so be it. Well done.
I just stumbled upon Lex’s podcast an I am hooked and relieved! I’ve been searching for reliable AI info …way before Prof Hinton quit Google. Knowledge may not be power in this case but it still prevents fear an chaos at this point. So grateful
Dude, i absolutely have so much admiration for their conversational dynamic. Lex will just seemingly disregard what Stephen says after a long response, and you might think “ok? I guess just moving on?” Only, Lex has a really unique mind , and Stephen knows that Lex needs to delve into *insert* other correlated topic and nuances, make sense of it to himself in the context of the whole convo, and then recall back to where you first thought he was cutoff and not given sauce for a whole abstract personal opinion. Stephen will then re package the concept and everyone gets it now. It’s unique to them, at least i ln my opinion, one of the smartest dudes ever
I love that several times Wolfram says something like, ‘this is what I think this week’ as the landscape is so fluid it seems like important foundational concepts can change in any given week…
In an age of quick shower soundbites and clips, what a privilege it is to steep in the luxurious bath of another Lex conversation. Thanks Lex and Stephen.
Every time I see another multi-hour conversation with Stephen Wolfram, and this is #4, I think - not again, what's there to talk about?! And every time I start listening I can't stop. The breadth and depth of the ideas are simply mind boggling as is the towering intellect 👍👍 #smartisbeautiful
Yes, the idea of computational boundedness being the thing that not only defines the limits of our perception, but even the limits of our reality out of the vast space of endless possibilities is the most beautiful thing I've ever tried to wrap my head around. It's such an elegant explanation for so many confounding questions.
I love this guy's natural verbosity! And it works so well with this host because there's no time limit for this format and I feel like we get to hear all has to say about stuff without being at all rushed which is so nice I think!
Just finished watching the whole thing. This is the best one I have ever watched. From tech news to history of science, so coherent and precise and easy to understand. What a great podcast!
To be alive when so many emergences of genius are around, and able to communicate and spread ideas so easily is so wonderful, I count myself very lucky...and to have a place where they are all brought together, that we can come listen while their ideas are expertly extracted is a blessing. Thank you Lex
My fave drinking game is every time Wolfram says "so to speak" but in all seriousness... thank you for breaking it all open and allowing us to peer in. Have listened to every interview together and they're all epic.
I've always been fascinated with physics and especially quantum physics and Stephen Wolfram is an excellent guest that can explain things easily for me. Yet another great podcast Lex and I hope you will continue making excellent quality content. 👏👏👏🧘
Thank you Lex. Blows my mind how knowledge Stephen is on nearly any topic. The world also needs his positivity. Truly brilliant and look forward to many more with him.
The way Stephen's built a wholistic model of the world is such a gift to get to witness. What a fascinating mind! It inspires me to keep being curious, to keep digging & see where it leads.
Sir Stephen Wolfram should be a daily guest. That's just how I feel about the totality of the utility inside his humility from which great ability offers each and everyone of us the probability in reaching the possibility amidst the reliability of the sustainability of our new responsibility. 😀 thanks
I think this guest made me think more in a day, than I have in 40+ years of life, combined!!! Some of it was him putting in words things that I intuitively knew, but had never consciously recognized. Others were new ways of understanding things I thought I knew well, but now I see it was one brick in a 100 story skyscraper.
Lex has been the only one who has succeeded in making me binge on podcasts. I love bingeing on Lex. Listening to Lex in my ear telling me sweet nothings about cellular automata robotics and ai. It doesn't get any better. Time well spent with Lex. :-)
@@georgetacarmen8824 with a name like Georgeta Carmen you are probably a fab glam beautiful genius software mermaid who is in with a chance of bagging that Fridman well and good so GO GrILL !!!
@My Fake Name I don't know why I'm bothering to respond to you. You're probably a bot leaving comments. There are so many of you out there. The more comments, the better, I guess. Better for the algorithm. It's nice to see Lex channel growing. Anyone who spends time with Lex will be very happy. Very very very happy indeed. No, I'm not some kind of genius mermaid. I'm just me. Take care bot. :-)
Lex - I'd love it if you did a synopsis of Asimov's Foundation. I loved your review of 1984. It added an entirely new dimension to the story for me. I know you're holding off on these things right now, but I very much am looking forward to you doing them again!
It is amazing to see how Stephen, after branching into a business for many years, revived the prodigy qualities in himself. The exciting outcomes of his all-welcome-in project on defining the new physics, proved he is a great visionary and knows how to motivate and guide great young minds to move through unchartered territories at an amazing pace. It is hard to grasp and understand all they've achieved so far, but there was that great feeling, right from his first announcement two years ago, that he was on the right trail. It was also appeasing to see that a mindful and scientifically superior podcaster like Lex, also felt that from the beginning
Sooooo excited for this one!!! Can't wait to hear how Wolfram will uses the symbiosis of LLMs with the deep computation of Wolfram Alpha to explore our Rulial space
I am impressed by your ability to have such long discussions, repeatedly, with people at the top of their game, in positions of influence and power. It seems obvious that they also derive some benefits or satisfaction from these interactions. You pose challenging questions, and their explanations help then crystallize their own understanding. I have learned that constructive use of knowledge is the true test of understanding: i.e. when we write/explain something, we MUST clarify our own undersanding, more than just "recognition" of ideas we have heard/read.
This is simply a gem. I'm so grateful to be able to take this in. Wolfram is the best teacher I've ever been exposed to. Wonderful. Just excellent. Has Mr. Wolfram taken an LP-IR test? Does he have an interest in his fasting insulin status, metabolic profile and health? Continued health to you both.
These conversations continually put in context the rapid changes around us and how to adapt to them. Please keep them coming. I will be listening to this a few times to take it in. Tempted to run it through chatgbt and Wolfgram alpha to extract the key points and actions to take from it.
Stephen is definitely my favorite guest, along (from the top of my mind): Daniel Kahneman, Joscha Bach, Eric Weinstein, John Carmack, Lee Cronin, Andrej Karpathy, Ilya Sutskever and Donald Hoffman... All of which have to return indefinitely XP Now we only need Edward Witten and James Simons for the Ouroboros to be completed! GREAT episode so far. I would love to talk with 😸; and at half it made me think of "When the Yogurt Took Over", from ❤☠🤖. Of course already one of the best!
Lex, I'm sure that your brilliant podcast guests also see your genius and vision. Stephen's incredible persistence for new learning and knowledge, combined with his innovative mindset, is truly impressive!
This conversation for me is the evidence of possibility of Asimov's "Foundation" reality to be not only possible but also nearly inevitable. Thank you. Great podcast.
Yes, I don't know at this point how we are going to get there. Incredible problems to overcome. Space, time, gravity, amazing engineering breakthroughs, biology. But I am convinced that we humans make it to space. It is our destiny. ❤❤❤ you, Lex.
@@alexiskiri9693 By the time we do, and in inventing the ways we do it, we won't be considered human anymore. You would have to fundamentally change so many things if you wanted to adapt to space, rather than adapt space to you.
Absolutely love seeing Stephen Wolfram on here every time. He’s always bringing up interesting ideas or brings a unique perspective on certain topics. Quite enlightening.
Is The Lex Fridman podcast now better than the Joe Rogan Experience ? With the deep level of intellectual conversations with truly brilliant people, I really think it above and beyond any other podcast. FACT ! Thank you Lex, never ever change 🙂❤
Overlapping but different audience and goals. Joe doesn't see himself as a journalist or scientist and therefore lends his platform to grifters that spread misinformation. Unfortunate but true
Thank you Dr. Fridman for doing this interview with Dr. Wolfram. I always had a suspicion that LLM tapped into a previous unknown property of human language which I think is akin to a map of reality. What we wrote, how we wrote them all have this intrinsic logic behind them. I'm so glad today that I can hear from Dr. Wolfram describing this very notion with much clearer language and insights.
This is BY FAR the most important interview with Wolfram. His vision for the future has never been more appreciated than right now. Being a programmer I need to know what the impacts of this new GPT toolkit will be. I found this video incredibly useful.
This dialogue isn’t just a textbook… it’s a library… many many insightful chocolate flakes sprinkled across 4 hours… Worth watching each section multiple times especially the ones on entropy, computationally boundedness coherent existence and of course more pragmatic things like impact and use of LLMs. Thanks a lot Dr. Wolfram and Lex to for having given me different perspective on concept of Entropy… concept of discrete space is really mind bending too… Request you for more follow up discussions on this!!! ❤
It's interesting that the Gospel of John starts out saying " In the beginning was The Word and the Word was with God and The Word was God". And generated the beginning of large language models. Had to start somewhere . I have been so amazed about Wolfram for years. 2 amazing guys
30:00 i love this part about modeling. As a computer engineer who has spent years on modeling domain concepts and their corresponding data models and relations, I have seen getting this modeling wrong is where a lot of bugs and tech debt happens. If your models are wrong, everything you build on top eventually becomes problematic or less useful.
Well, it took me 2 weeks to finish listening to this -- with as much rewinding and re-listening as I suspected would be involved after the first 2 minutes, 2 weeks ago... but I finally made it through. Wild, wild, unfathomably wild stuff. Much appreciation for putting in this much time to get this information out to the people.
AWESOME!!! Dr. Wolfram is the perfect guest at the perfect time. Especially since GPTs are still pretty crappy at math! I would love to see a day when I can perform multi-variable calculus in chatgpt and have it invariably give me accurate answers! :D
This is absolutely at the edge of science at the moment. I am glad to have studied some math and physics, and have read some of the philosophy books to be able to follow this dialogue somehow. Does someone have some advice on which other scientists are researching and reporting on similar high-end science these days?
Lex! Can you please get John Vervaeke back on the show. He's doing great work the metaphysics side of A.I. Just ask him about the Silicon Sages. Also, Wolfgang Voight would be a solid guest as well. Great content as always!
Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
- MasterClass: masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off
- BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off
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1:33 - WolframAlpha and ChatGPT
21:14 - Computation and nature of reality
48:06 - How ChatGPT works
1:47:48 - Human and animal cognition
2:01:07 - Dangers of AI
2:09:27 - Nature of truth
2:30:49 - Future of education
3:06:51 - Consciousness
3:15:50 - Second Law of Thermodynamics
3:39:23 - Entropy
3:52:23 - Observers in physics
4:09:15 - Mortality
💙🩵 thank you, awesome
Would it be possible to get Sal Khan on? I've been watching a couple demos on Khanmigo. Seems like a total game changer for education.
In relation to computation & the nature of reality, we have to realize (We don't know what we don't know), & (We need to always assume there is something else we are missing). For example with the QCD there is the conservation of "Color" but this doesn't reference back to the conservation of energy via momentum exchange dynamics. The reason why this is important = (RGB) colored legos fut together nicely by color & integer values, but that doesn't reference back to the interrelations of energy density interactions, and the conservation of energy. We could be developing predictive models that intermediately (through calcs) do something different than what the system is doing, but still render the right answers, we need to be able to relate these proportionalities & predictive models to a the actual momentum exchange dynamics.
AI pioneer Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns against ChatGPT
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When we realize that we don't find the full picture, & that there is more to know, it can lead to more things we realize we care about. I think if we all remain honest while looking for answers and new physical dynamics, we will find more things that we care about. New things that we couldn't have known about if we didn't look.
Wolfram is my absolute favourite guest, he has such a unique way of thinking encapsulating many different subjects to form a bigger picture hypothesis. Lex also asks great questions
yea, it's such a pleasure to listen to him
He's a very good salesperson. I.e. extremely compelling.
Him and Joscha Bach are both my #1
EDIT: and Eric Weinstein #1 too 🤪
I agree, the whole episode was amazing but if I have to be honest the last hour and a half blew my mind, especially towards the end. The way he explains and talk about things is so much more digestible. Probably one of the best science communicators alive!
Then, he basically stopped real science careers or even basic understanding for you! He is a science terminator. He has no clue and no respect of science. He has a cult.
Lex is the true MVP because the question "what is your favorite candy" is directly followed up with "do you think that consciousness is fundamentally computational" 😂
I love that about Lex. Or when he starts a conversation with a “simple” question - “what is the meaning of life?”
Why is it that out of all the mind-bending revelations in this discussion, the ONE thing I'm likely to remember is that Stephen Wolfram's favourite chocolate is the humble Flake?!
This never seems to go over as well for me at dinner parties though… 😞
@@itsdavidmora maybe you're going to the wrong dinner parties 😉
@@PinataOblongata ❤touché!
Four hours of this? You're a gift to humanity Lex. Keep doing what you're doing.
Uta borring 😂
@@pedromathe9151 We were expecting you, welcome, you don't have to watch the whole thing. Enjoy.
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Lex's a TREASURE.
He’s a drama pot stirrer. He gets more likes by saying ‘I’m scared AI will kill us all’
The timing Lex brings on his recent guests is simply superb
⏱Timestamps for this video!
0:00 - Mathematicians Trying to Figure out Computational Systems
0:51 - Introduction to Stephen Wolfram
1:45 - Technical Differences Between ChatGPT and Wolfram Alpha
12:14 - Computational reducibility
13:17 - Finding pockets of reducibility
19:29 - Discovery Ahead of Schedule, Keeps Things Interesting
22:04 - Defining the General Observer
24:40 - Limitations of Science
32:25 - Representing Natural Language in a Computational Language
39:08 - Learning Computational Thinking
45:03 - Debugging
47:57 - The Nature of Language
52:48 - Discovering the Laws of Language
58:13 - The Construction Kit for Making Semantically Correct Sentences
1:07:13 - The relationship between natural language, thought, and computation
1:13:31 - Understanding the workings of ChatGPT
1:15:04 - The Neural Net Model;
1:21:06 - ChatGPT;
1:31:15 - The potential of AI tutoring and individualized teaching
1:33:27 - The changing nature of knowledge and learning
1:35:06 - AI and Specialization
1:35:52 - Defining Objectives for AI
1:47:49 - Existential Risks of AI
1:49:24 - The Apex Intelligence
1:56:31 - The invention of language and its impact on our intelligence
2:01:19 - The threat of AI and exponential growth
2:07:25 - The Fundamental Problem of Computer Security and Computational Irreducibility
2:09:01 - The Nature of Truth and Computational Contracts
2:19:44 - The Importance of Computational Language
2:28:34 - Thresholds and Unknowns in Technology
2:30:54 - Limitations of factual output in AI systems
2:32:13 - Democratizing access to computation and redefining programming education
2:39:56 - The birth of computer science departments
2:41:55 - Understanding the science of LLMs
2:50:30 - Origins of Computational Thinking
2:56:12 - Future of Computing Education
3:00:55 - Realizing Obligation to Write About CX
3:07:21 - Consciousness and Computation
3:11:15 - Language Models and Emotions"
3:13:15 - The Future of Large Language Models"
3:25:12 - Interest in Complexity and Artificial Physics
3:32:11 - Computational Reducibility and the Middle Column of Rule 30
3:36:27 - The Story of a Computationally Bounded Observer
3:39:34 - The History and Definition of Entropy
3:45:28 - The discreteness of matter and space
3:46:41 - Discovering the discreetness of space
3:57:05 - Existence and Computation
3:57:28 - Rules and Laws in the Universe
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Thought it was generated by AI 😂
Thank you😁. Please do this more on more Lex Fridman videos
Once lex gets to round 6 he needs to string them all together and do a 24 hour wolfram stream.
😅 That would be exhausting.
Did you mean figurative or real strings, if so the latter, he could maybe use ChatGpt for tolling the transitions to make it seamless. Still it could just be a recursive for all Chat GPt guest to markup all the best qualities of A.I. Homage to HAL without missing any octets.
24 hour wolfram is next level
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This was truly one of the most insightful podcasts I've listened to in a long time. Lex, your podcasts provide intellectual stimulation in a sea of mediocrity. Your guests are captivating and possess immense knowledge, and as always, the timing is excellent. 👌🏽
I’m hyped!
I think Wolfram has improved the ability to explain his concepts since the last interview, either that or I’m a little better at understanding. Or I’m more deluded than the last time 😂
😂😂😂
I got completely lost towards the end. It seems like he's saying if we understood everything we would not exist, or something like that...
Or you were given a memory implant. Or there was a disruption in the spacetime continuum. Or he was replaced by a shapeshifter controlled by the lizard people.
this is so phenomenal, Wolfram is one my favorite guests and he explores those concepts in a somewhat accessible manner without dumbing it down. Благодарю Лекс.
Да, оч круто) Хотя Вольфрам частенько переводит вопросы Лекса в свой математический контекст))) Такой: "Да, но ввиду вычислительной несводимости..." )))) Но и это интересно)
@@enlightenment5d ну а как ты хотел, я пытаюсь углубиться в этот материал но его к сожеланию мало, вольфрам вообще не очень хочет что-либо формализировать пока
@@kirillholt2329 look at lections of Marko Rodin - you will be amazed how simple and beautiful it all may be ! BTW, it would be great to see meeting of Marko Rodin and Wolfram
I feel honored and inspired to listen to this man speak.
so to speak
I feel like I’ll understand 5% of this but still watch it 😊
You’re picking out a small slice reduciblity from the hours of computational irreducibility.
@@djbabbotstown hahaha excellent
There is so much Bullsh** being spewed here in this video it would take longer than the video itself to point it all out
@@florisramaekers2362 😂❤
That's how everyone starts. Soon, you'll be understanding 95% of it
This was by far the best Lex podcast I've heard so far. Stephen Wolfram has a truly fascinating mind, and a gift for explaining fascinating concepts.
I'm thinking the same thing. I've known of wolfram and its "products" but I'mm listening him for the first time. He is absolutely fantastic in locking your attention, explaining it the right way with such innovative view of the world.
One of my favorite people you have a conversation with. Thank you Lex and Stephen.
This is an incredible interview. Wolfram is so relaxed, lays out so much information, so self-disinterested. This is really something special. If it takes 3 or 4 parts to get there, so be it. Well done.
Lex is continually putting out the best interviews on any platform, imho. I get excited to see what I can learn every time I get the notification!
I just stumbled upon Lex’s podcast an I am hooked and relieved! I’ve been searching for reliable AI info …way before Prof Hinton quit Google.
Knowledge may not be power in this case but it still prevents fear an chaos at this point. So grateful
Dude, i absolutely have so much admiration for their conversational dynamic.
Lex will just seemingly disregard what Stephen says after a long response, and you might think “ok? I guess just moving on?”
Only, Lex has a really unique mind , and Stephen knows that Lex needs to delve into *insert* other correlated topic and nuances, make sense of it to himself in the context of the whole convo, and then recall back to where you first thought he was cutoff and not given sauce for a whole abstract personal opinion.
Stephen will then re package the concept and everyone gets it now.
It’s unique to them, at least i ln my opinion, one of the smartest dudes ever
Cannot imagine what it must be like having a mind like Stephen Wolfram. What an inspirational guy!
I love that several times Wolfram says something like, ‘this is what I think this week’ as the landscape is so fluid it seems like important foundational concepts can change in any given week…
In an age of quick shower soundbites and clips, what a privilege it is to steep in the luxurious bath of another Lex conversation. Thanks Lex and Stephen.
This is the age of long form conversations dude, you may not like it but we are in fact progressing
@@xmathmanx TikTok has never been more popular, so checkmate?
@@Outplayedqt tiktok is mainly young people doing their thing, if you hate young people doing their thing then you're basically anti life
@@xmathmanx pretty big conclusive leaps you made there
@@sss-zx9jl yep, things are clearly getting better and no one wants to hear that 😁
A brilliant conversation with a brilliant man. Thank you both for sharing your gift with the world. We are endlessly grateful.
I love Stephen’s livestreams but you bring the best out of him Lex. Thanks for 4 more hours!
@lex, please bring back Stephen Wolfram for round 5. I’ve absolutely loved the conversations you’ve been having every year.
My fave lex episode. What a fascinating conversation. Running at 10 computer analogies per hour
Every time I see another multi-hour conversation with Stephen Wolfram, and this is #4, I think - not again, what's there to talk about?! And every time I start listening I can't stop. The breadth and depth of the ideas are simply mind boggling as is the towering intellect 👍👍 #smartisbeautiful
Yes, the idea of computational boundedness being the thing that not only defines the limits of our perception, but even the limits of our reality out of the vast space of endless possibilities is the most beautiful thing I've ever tried to wrap my head around. It's such an elegant explanation for so many confounding questions.
I love this guy's natural verbosity! And it works so well with this host because there's no time limit for this format and I feel like we get to hear all has to say about stuff without being at all rushed which is so nice I think!
wolfram is really something else, just awesome
Just finished watching the whole thing. This is the best one I have ever watched. From tech news to history of science, so coherent and precise and easy to understand. What a great podcast!
To be alive when so many emergences of genius are around, and able to communicate and spread ideas so easily is so wonderful, I count myself very lucky...and to have a place where they are all brought together, that we can come listen while their ideas are expertly extracted is a blessing.
Thank you Lex
It’s amazing that in today’s era of 30-second videos, Lex can produce a 3-hour video where every moment is compelling. Well done!
Love hearing Stephen Wolfram talk.
My fave drinking game is every time Wolfram says "so to speak"
but in all seriousness... thank you for breaking it all open and allowing us to peer in. Have listened to every interview together and they're all epic.
I've always been fascinated with physics and especially quantum physics and Stephen Wolfram is an excellent guest that can explain things easily for me. Yet another great podcast Lex and I hope you will continue making excellent quality content. 👏👏👏🧘
This interviews are the most curiosity inducing, mind opening pieces of media I've ingested in such a long time. Thank you for your work.
It’s truly a gift in a sea of chaos ! So much respect for Alex’s quest for knowledge and his sharing of it A WIN WIN for us all ✨
Thank you Lex. Blows my mind how knowledge Stephen is on nearly any topic. The world also needs his positivity. Truly brilliant and look forward to many more with him.
Honestly, hearing a professional talk through GPTs outputs is fascinating. You should definitely do more!
I'm still trying to digest the past 3 episodes with Wolfram. Thanks for the content!!!
This guy gets it! Great to hear a deeper discussion on the bigger picture and more subtle aspects. Thank you
let's goooooooo. Was actually wanting a new episode with wolfram.
Me 2 ! I just searched for this a couple days ago !!
Agreed ! Stay curious :)
Haha same
Ditto. Need more Eric Weinstein too.
I was hopeful after the MIT symposium!
The way Stephen's built a wholistic model of the world is such a gift to get to witness. What a fascinating mind! It inspires me to keep being curious, to keep digging & see where it leads.
Thanks for everything you do, Lex! Would love to see Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman and Iain McGilchrist on your show!
Linus Torvalds
yeah, total brainfart
Don’t encourage RMS, please.
@@cbrightly Stop telling me what to do, please.
Sir Stephen Wolfram should be a daily guest. That's just how I feel about the totality of the utility inside his humility from which great ability offers each and everyone of us the probability in reaching the possibility amidst the reliability of the sustainability of our new responsibility. 😀 thanks
I think this guest made me think more in a day, than I have in 40+ years of life, combined!!!
Some of it was him putting in words things that I intuitively knew, but had never consciously recognized. Others were new ways of understanding things I thought I knew well, but now I see it was one brick in a 100 story skyscraper.
"40+ years of life, combined!!!" is an odd way of saying 40+ years and made me chuckle ty
This was a nice philosophical thoughtstorm about the nature of Language and computation
Lex has been the only one who has succeeded in making me binge on podcasts.
I love bingeing on Lex.
Listening to Lex in my ear telling me sweet nothings about cellular automata robotics and ai.
It doesn't get any better.
Time well spent with Lex.
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Lex is the best.
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@@georgetacarmen8824 with a name like Georgeta Carmen you are probably a fab glam beautiful genius software mermaid who is in with a chance of bagging that Fridman well and good so GO GrILL !!!
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I don't know why I'm bothering to respond to you.
You're probably a bot leaving comments.
There are so many of you out there.
The more comments, the better, I guess.
Better for the algorithm.
It's nice to see Lex channel growing.
Anyone who spends time with Lex will be very happy.
Very very very happy indeed.
No, I'm not some kind of genius mermaid.
I'm just me.
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wow 4 hours of Wolfram 😮 the other three were my favourite lex episodes - dude is an absolute G(enius)
Agreed. I go back to those episodes regularly.
This is fascinating. It gladdens my heart to know that there are people in this world capable of thinking these thoughts
Lex - I'd love it if you did a synopsis of Asimov's Foundation. I loved your review of 1984. It added an entirely new dimension to the story for me. I know you're holding off on these things right now, but I very much am looking forward to you doing them again!
Me3!
It is rewarding to hear Cantor’s words of wisdom after a marathon of deeply resonant thinking. Great format, as always.
I’ve listened the last 3 episodes with Wolfram at least 2 or 3 times each so I’m very excited to hear this.
It is amazing to see how Stephen, after branching into a business for many years, revived the prodigy qualities in himself. The exciting outcomes of his all-welcome-in project on defining the new physics, proved he is a great visionary and knows how to motivate and guide great young minds to move through unchartered territories at an amazing pace. It is hard to grasp and understand all they've achieved so far, but there was that great feeling, right from his first announcement two years ago, that he was on the right trail. It was also appeasing to see that a mindful and scientifically superior podcaster like Lex, also felt that from the beginning
I always enjoy listening to Stephen Wolfram. He easily fills 4+ hours with remarkable streams of consciousness that are accessible and relatable.
Sooooo excited for this one!!! Can't wait to hear how Wolfram will uses the symbiosis of LLMs with the deep computation of Wolfram Alpha to explore our Rulial space
I am impressed by your ability to have such long discussions, repeatedly, with people at the top of their game, in positions of influence and power. It seems obvious that they also derive some benefits or satisfaction from these interactions. You pose challenging questions, and their explanations help then crystallize their own understanding. I have learned that constructive use of knowledge is the true test of understanding: i.e. when we write/explain something, we MUST clarify our own undersanding, more than just "recognition" of ideas we have heard/read.
Its gonna be awesome when Wolfram finishes his work and it turns out the answer is confirmed to be 42.
Yes…but will he know the question 😂
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Stephen Wolfram is your most amazing guest, please have him on again tomorrow.
Yaaasssss! I,ve been waiting for Wolfram to come back after the latest developments in GPT. Good man Lex😍😍😍😍😍
This is simply a gem. I'm so grateful to be able to take this in. Wolfram is the best teacher I've ever been exposed to.
Wonderful. Just excellent.
Has Mr. Wolfram taken an LP-IR test? Does he have an interest in his fasting insulin status, metabolic profile and health?
Continued health to you both.
Totally agree, a landmark conversation.
I love how, at the end of the vid, we can see the giddy excitement Lex gets from talking to one of his idols. ❤
This is amazing. People who watched 4+ hours of this gem should meet up. Loved the comments section too.
You rule lex, we need more book vids!
These conversations continually put in context the rapid changes around us and how to adapt to them. Please keep them coming. I will be listening to this a few times to take it in. Tempted to run it through chatgbt and Wolfgram alpha to extract the key points and actions to take from it.
Stephen is definitely my favorite guest, along (from the top of my mind): Daniel Kahneman, Joscha Bach, Eric Weinstein, John Carmack, Lee Cronin, Andrej Karpathy, Ilya Sutskever and Donald Hoffman... All of which have to return indefinitely XP
Now we only need Edward Witten and James Simons for the Ouroboros to be completed!
GREAT episode so far. I would love to talk with 😸; and at half it made me think of "When the Yogurt Took Over", from ❤☠🤖. Of course already one of the best!
One thing that I love about this channel is that Wolfram gets invited over and over again.
I loved the concept of observer brought up.
Lex, I'm sure that your brilliant podcast guests also see your genius and vision. Stephen's incredible persistence for new learning and knowledge, combined with his innovative mindset, is truly impressive!
This conversation for me is the evidence of possibility of Asimov's "Foundation" reality to be not only possible but also nearly inevitable. Thank you. Great podcast.
I think more like Stephenson's "Anatham".
Yes, I don't know at this point how we are going to get there. Incredible problems to overcome. Space, time, gravity, amazing engineering breakthroughs, biology. But I am convinced that we humans make it to space. It is our destiny.
❤❤❤ you, Lex.
@@alexiskiri9693 By the time we do, and in inventing the ways we do it, we won't be considered human anymore. You would have to fundamentally change so many things if you wanted to adapt to space, rather than adapt space to you.
Absolutely love seeing Stephen Wolfram on here every time. He’s always bringing up interesting ideas or brings a unique perspective on certain topics. Quite enlightening.
Is The Lex Fridman podcast now better than the Joe Rogan Experience ? With the deep level of intellectual conversations with truly brilliant people, I really think it above and beyond any other podcast. FACT ! Thank you Lex, never ever change 🙂❤
Overlapping but different audience and goals. Joe doesn't see himself as a journalist or scientist and therefore lends his platform to grifters that spread misinformation. Unfortunate but true
Depends which guest imo
Every time I watch one of these Wolfram interviews I feel my mind expand and also become more hopeful.
This is such a treat. Savoring the whole episode.
we are screwed but yes interesting
Oh my,.. I always love to see you and Stephen talk. It always blows my mind and most likely gets over my head, but man, I love it.
Stephen Wolfram, my favorite guest, super excited to enjoy this!
Thank you Dr. Fridman for doing this interview with Dr. Wolfram. I always had a suspicion that LLM tapped into a previous unknown property of human language which I think is akin to a map of reality. What we wrote, how we wrote them all have this intrinsic logic behind them. I'm so glad today that I can hear from Dr. Wolfram describing this very notion with much clearer language and insights.
Looking for my daily fix to have my "mind blown" -- definitely found it here...thank you both!! Keep the party going...cheers, well done.
Thank you both for this conversation, truly is a gift! So helpful to put in to context the tools I've been working with.
That's an amazing and long conversation. So much to learn and to be aware. It's endless. Thank you both for sharing your extensive knowledge.
11:00 The fact you corrected yourself to it seems that symbolic is a good represantation shows your incredible dedication to truth.
Such an essential conversation, this was a great one, Lex.
This is BY FAR the most important interview with Wolfram.
His vision for the future has never been more appreciated than right now.
Being a programmer I need to know what the impacts of this new GPT toolkit will be. I found this video incredibly useful.
This conversation made my brain feel smooth and fluffy but I enjoyed the tingling sensation 😊
right? this guy is just next level
This dialogue isn’t just a textbook… it’s a library… many many insightful chocolate flakes sprinkled across 4 hours… Worth watching each section multiple times especially the ones on entropy, computationally boundedness coherent existence and of course more pragmatic things like impact and use of LLMs. Thanks a lot Dr. Wolfram and Lex to for having given me different perspective on concept of Entropy… concept of discrete space is really mind bending too… Request you for more follow up discussions on this!!! ❤
Stephen is truly inspiring. I had a couple of aha moments during that podcast.
Wolfram is one of the brightest minds of our time
I always look forward to and thoroughly enjoy all of your videos, Lex. Thank you so much for all the work that you do. ^_^
It's interesting that the Gospel of John starts out saying " In the beginning was The Word and the Word was with God and The Word was God". And generated the beginning of large language models. Had to start somewhere . I have been so amazed about Wolfram for years. 2 amazing guys
Please do another episode with Wolfram very soon! Can't get enough.
Amazing that we can listen to this quality of discussion at no cost. Should consider a patreon contribution to Lex I feel.
So good! I'm going to have to listen to it at least one more time...
30:00 i love this part about modeling. As a computer engineer who has spent years on modeling domain concepts and their corresponding data models and relations, I have seen getting this modeling wrong is where a lot of bugs and tech debt happens. If your models are wrong, everything you build on top eventually becomes problematic or less useful.
Lex should start getting these conversations translated to common tongues like chinese, russian or english.
Just get AI to do it.
It'd be a great financial move. Can have several channels for the price of one, and can just outsource the translation.
Well, it took me 2 weeks to finish listening to this -- with as much rewinding and re-listening as I suspected would be involved after the first 2 minutes, 2 weeks ago... but I finally made it through. Wild, wild, unfathomably wild stuff. Much appreciation for putting in this much time to get this information out to the people.
Dear Lex and Stephen, I love you both, best people in the world and give me faith that great things will happen in the future.
Superb conversation, love hearing you both sparring eachother like this! Thank you!
AWESOME!!! Dr. Wolfram is the perfect guest at the perfect time. Especially since GPTs are still pretty crappy at math! I would love to see a day when I can perform multi-variable calculus in chatgpt and have it invariably give me accurate answers! :D
Thank you for these conversations I thought I was alone, thought I was strange for some of the questions I had.
Wonderful and very timely. Thank you for this fantastic back-to-back marathon on the future of AI.
Thanks so much, such a great interview. You are one of the best channels on TH-cam. I never feel like it’s gone on too long . Excellent.
This is absolutely at the edge of science at the moment. I am glad to have studied some math and physics, and have read some of the philosophy books to be able to follow this dialogue somehow. Does someone have some advice on which other scientists are researching and reporting on similar high-end science these days?
I cannot wait for round 5 with Dr. Wolfram!!!
Lex! Can you please get John Vervaeke back on the show. He's doing great work the metaphysics side of A.I. Just ask him about the Silicon Sages. Also, Wolfgang Voight would be a solid guest as well. Great content as always!