PopOS vs Linux Mint | DistroWars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we will look at two popular distros, both based on Ubuntu. PopOS was designed by System76 for their computers and features a ton of behind the scenes modifications for stability. Linux Mint is the go-to choice for new Linux users because of the stability and simplicity.
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I distro hopped looking to replace XP. When I tried Mint it worked immediately. My whole company now uses it.
@@sleepntsheep1169 Yes, it was my job to evaluate replacements for XP. There was some effort required to replace the Windows programmes we used. Only one thing wasn't easy to replace and I found it ran fine under Wine. Some of the users have changed their home computers from Windows as a result of experience with Mint Xfce.
@Illusion Performance under Mint Xfce is broadly comparable with XP. I spent some time comparing them.
I just started Mint and I'm loving it. It's trapped on a tiny streaming laptop, I can't wait to get it on my terminal PC.
@Illusion WHen you don't realise XP stopped being supported years ago
@Illusion And when XP is much more vulnerable to hacks and attacks... in a jiff
I'm using Linux Mint primarily because I'm not looking to distro hop coming from Windows 7, I mean don't get me wrong, I distro hopped a little bit early on, but I quickly settled on Mint because I just want a computer that works as a computer and not a distro hopping machine. At the end of the day, we all know (Or should know) distros don't really matter, it's how good you are at configuring your distro of Linux to do the same tasks any other distro can do. For me, Mint is the most familiar, so I use mint.
You’re not allowed to come to that conclusion until at least two years of Linux use. Who else is going to argue over distro supremacy in the comments now? Sheesh 😛
@@electricalbatross5797 Why is he not allowed to comment that? Who are you to set a 2 year timeline and where did you get that timeline???
I also came from Win7, installed Mint Cinnamon and Never tried another Distro. Mint just works, is stable and feels at home.
I install Mint on all my friends machines who want to leave Windows, Non of Them ever asked me to install another Distro.
Why would that be???
If You recommend another Distro to (ex) windows users and they like it, fine Good for them.
And what's with the expression "Distro Supremacy"? There are only Popular Distro's.
If you like a Popular distro, Good for you! if you don't, also good! Just use another one, and everybody is happy!
@@electricalbatross5797 You know, considering the 3 months I tried to switch to Linux back in 2009, I'm pretty sure I have just about a little over 2 years of Linux experience now.
@@spooky3669 www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm
@@spooky3669 jesus calm down. ..it was a joke
My story with switching to Linux (Ubuntu at first to be exact) is that my PC would bluescreen a lot on Windows, and after the update last year, my windows bugged out and nothing worked so I tried Ubuntu and that worked fine, I thought my pc was damaged, but apparently not! And now I juse switched to Linux Mint, love it so far :)
PopOS is my daily OS, Linux Mint is my backup fav. I do use Linux Mint for all my server needs just because I can trust Linux Mint to always work and it works very well. I just prefer PopOS because one I like Gnome 3 and two I prefer it's more modern and flat look but I still re-theme PopOS anyway.
Never had a problem with PopOS updates - just saying. But I also will say that Linux Mint is the most rock solid GNU/Linux OS I have ever used.
How about MX Linux?
Honestly I prefer mint, it looks rlly good!
I want to use mint but popOS works better with nvidia
I have a System76 and I love it. Bought back in 2013, and at that time came with Ubuntu 12.10, has since been upgraded all the way to 20.04 (beta), though I don't run their spin (of Ubuntu that it came with, nor Pop!_OS) I run Kubuntu.
A friend of mine is doing backend development (PHP and Laravel) on Linux Mint.
He says most of the company he works for use Linux Mint.
😮😮 didnt know companies used linux mint known 2day.
The company I worked for before also uses Linux Mint, we do web development.
How about MX Linux?
@@montesajudy how good is linux mint with development? Which distro you think is better for this/which distro do u use?
The guys at System 76 are doing a great job with Pop OS, specially considering they are a relatively small team. However, Pop is becoming one of the most innovative distros out there.
if i don't have to use yocto at work, pop os was my first choice ....byut i am forced to use the ubuntu LTS to work with yocto without issues... :'(
@Irfan Kurtagic Uh... hmn... well, Uh... do not disturb?
I love Pop OS ❤️
Can I install the XFCE desktop and then uninstall GNOME without deleting packages important to the operation of the system?
I come from windows and I have tried MX linux, Xubuntu and Mint xfce
@@ssAnxietypop os can now install cinnamon so you can use mint interface on it.
@@ssAnxiety I'm prolly 8 months too late, but I've had problems installing other DE's on pop os (including xfce), but other people have gotten it to work, so maybe you can too, and I can also hard confirm that uninstalling gnome on pop os deletes some pretty important packages to the operation of the system and is something that should not be done
Fantastic neck to neck comparison. I use Linux Mint as my daily driver and tried popos via dual boot. One thing I noticed in Popos is that it does not have Grub menu. Need to use space bar key to boot into other os. Apart from this, it is just superfast and font used in Popos is eye catchy. On the other hand, Linux Mint is meant for great reliability .
In PopOs itself install os-prober and run os-prober. After that run update-grub and restart. I had Windows 10 and Linux Mint already installed before installing PopOs. On the startup grub menu I found all three os listed and ready to boot from either three.
Unfortunately PopOS is not superfast, at least from my experience
To be simple: if u have new hardware/high hardware(gaming), then go for pop os /mint cinnamon,
Or else low end hardware, then go for mint Mate
for even better Xfce Mint.
I personally loved xfce more than Mate
I have intel i3 1.2ghz (turbo upto 3.4ghz), 4gb ram, going to add another 4gb ram so total 8gigs... which version of mint best for me? I need to use some graphic design and light editing programes
@@serpantinthewild Linux mint cinnamon
or don't forget to distro hop to land on your final fav and comfortable distro
@@circuitlover853 My favorites are currently Mint Cinnamon (Nemo is most Explorer-like), Mint Xfce (light; works fine in a VirtualBox on Windows 10 with 8 GB RAM), and Lubuntu (lighter, for a Dell Latitude 620 or less). I couldn't install Pop!_OS because its installer didn't fit my virtual screen.
I like both, I like the tiling in Pop!OS and I will always have a soft sport for Linux Mint, it’s a system that can be made beautiful theming without needing to know much about open source. I run Arco Linux (Arch) as my main system but I really love these two distros. Of course Arco is really beautiful out of the box.
No contest. For me, Linux Mint wins hands down.
Gab, Minds, and Mastodon?! Subbed just cause that’s neat.
PopOS is good at providing close-to-vanilla GNOME experience. I do think that their colour scheme looks tiring after using the computer for a long time
You can change that in a Zillion other colors.
@@sleepntsheep1169 If you know where to look. On Mint Xfce in 2019, it took 3 different apps to change the look. I’m currently using “Adwaita-dark” style panels and “Humanity-Dark” icons via Appearance, “Mint-Y-Dark-Red” style borders via Window Manager, and the “Burrard Inlet” background via Desktop settings.
Ah my top two distros. At the moment for me its 1. Pop os and 2. Mint. I really like using both and you can't go wrong with either.
recently installed pop os. it's faster and lightweight than mint. gaming performance is also fantastic. Made Pop OS my main OS
@@_Rainman_ really?
@@_Rainman_ I had the issue too, it's not the fault of the distro, rather the desktop environment. Linux is mainly used in older systems where 4k is barely an afterthought so it's rare that 4k is put in mind for the fractional scaling options. If you install a package to change the DE it flushes out the issue. I noticed that DE's such as gnome in particular is quite bad at handling fractional scaling and that the more windows-like DEs like cinnamon and kde tend to be better at it. It's just a minor flaw that's fixed pretty easily when you understand your way around the issue.
Out of the box flatpak support in mint is great, both the distros are very close to my heart
I like both. Will give mint another try in the next release. It didn't like me having two graphics cards nor two monitors.
Joe Collins of EZEE Linux on march 12, 2020 did vid on installing Linux mint for someone else.... so I think it's very close if not the same as OEM installs. A very good video
I run linux mint (MATE) on a system 76 machine
Nice
Disrespectful 😂
@@mikeyyt737 xD
Mint XFCE was my first Linux distro and loved how fast and light on resources it was. Very similar to Windows so it made transitioning easy for me. Never felt quite comfortable with Cinnamon even with the latest version.
"Windows similarity"? Install the Applet *CinnVIIStarkMenu* and you'll change your mind about Cinnamon.!
@@spooky3669 Nice.
If you want to do heavy graphic card dependent work.. then go for pop os... It has best support for graphics cards
I want a distro for development (web) and that have good support for Nvidia cards . Is pop os good? Because i've heard that does not come with grub menu and also consumes too much ram and is buggy.
Well I ave been using Pop OS for a while now....so far?....this distro impresses me in that it not only works out of the box?...but with my Dell XPS?...which came with NVidia drivers and which caused me grief with both Linux Mint and Ubuntu....but Pop OS actually has an ISO that COMES WITH those drivers INSTALLED and ready!
Definitely a game changer...
As for their hardware?...I'm still saving my money for one of their workstations...yeah....a big...heavy....all-inclusive laptop that has the specs of a desktop...but is more portable!...
An overlooked benefit of laptops is that you can easily change their brightness without fumbling with unmarked buttons.
This is kinda off-topic, but Ubuntu-base related. I recently tried to play Saints Row 4 on Manjaro which is a Steamplay game and my Xbox One controller didn't work. Tried it on Ubuntu Mate and it worked just fine. This was an issue with that game. Borderlands 2 worked fine with my controller.
pop os can now install cinnamon so you can use mint interface on it.
How to do it
I'm new to linux and yes I still use Windows 10 but Pop Os is the only Linux distribution that actually made me like Linux, I've used Ubuntu and Linux mint, tried Manjaro deepin which was great and looked amazing for 3 days and then it become ok and took some extra resources, liked your video on this comparison and personally I like Pop Os cause it has day one Nvidia support cause system 76 and about the firmware will that feature work for non system 76 laptop's and desktops.
Glad you fiend your daily driver in PopOS!
Linux mint is gonna be the only best disro ever, I've been using it since 5 years and it has never disappointed me.
How about MX Linux?
How about Manjaro?
@@thisprojecthasbeendisconti8265 Well I got to admit, my comment was kinda old and I have been using Arch Since 2018 (Arch Is Best Distro Changed My Mind)
I've used Mint since it began. I have tried others, but Mint is well made and dependable.
Currently running Linux Mint 19 with the Budgie Desktop! Runs great out-of-the-box; looking forward to a RAM upgrade to enhance performance.
for Games 1. Manjaro and 2. POP_OS! .. becouse Manjaro is more stable .. it just works i get 3 PCs with Manjaro run more then a year, never get a problem, but i did need to reinstall POP_OS! 2 timers on my sons PC, now he run Manjaro too, my parents run mint because it is perfect for light PC work, if you are using your PC for more then a browser then Manjaro or Fedora is the best bet
Hello. I like trying GNU/Linux distros. To be honest I've never heard of POP until I watched this video, then I tried this myself. But I don't like to use virtual machine because it will not recognize my full hardware and I like to to test distros installing it besides my main distros (Debian and Mint LMDE); actually I have some partitions only to test distros.
Well, I got dissapointed about POP for two reasons:
1 - I downloaded NVIDIA version because I have Nvidia GPU. When system booted, it got a ugly screen and no NVIDIA graphics driver were installed;
2 - It doesn't install Grub. So I had to lose some time fixing the grub.
I probably could fix those problems but, when we install a OS we expect it to work fully. Didin't work for me.
It should install grub. That is part of the questions in the installer...I can't comment on the NVidia part.
Maybe I didn't notice about installing asking me about grub (probably because it loaded bad resolution even on installer).
About NVIDIA driver, probably because I have an old card. I think it tried to install the latest driver but not the recommended for the current card, I'm not sure. Acttualy I had some problems trying to install latest driver in other distros too; I have to install legacy one.
Developers could add some way to detect and install driver properly and at the end of the installation, in the first boot of the system ask the user if the resolution is ok. If its not system ask user to install some driver in a list (in case user maybe know which one works fine with his graphic card), or install opensource instead (I never had problems with opensource ones). It would prevent problems like this one I had. But it's just my though.
Good video. I’d suggest some might want to dual or multi boot and use Mint as their daily driver and Pop OS for gaming. Personally I hate the Gnome desktop but for gaming Pop is much easier than Mint. If you’re a hardcore expert Linux geek it matters less.
Just real quick you can actually add snap packages to the system cause there is a way to enable them easily because snapcraft does actually give you a way to enable them again
If pop os install timeshift,can use linux mint boot usb rescue pop os?
My ONLY issue with POP OS is the mainly vanilla Gnome desktop. I would have zero issues if they set their Gnome desktop up to work more easily like Ubuntu does, or even better if they included the Desktop Layout Switcher that you can now get on Manjaro Gnome. I honestly don't think 'vanilla' Gnome is a good option for people new to Linux and/or people who are more 'novice level' computer users. Clearly an experienced Linux user and/or someone used to how vanilla Gnome works would love POP OS because it is a really good set up. But being 'old' and an 'old point and click mouse' person, I would much rather use a desktop like Cinnamon, Deepin, or Budgie. And yeah, I know you can install other desktops onto POP, I just don't think you should have to do that to get a set up that is more useful to the 'average' user. Just my opinion though :) Thanks, Tom, for your comparison and insights.
Pop OS works like a charm with minor tweaks. Dash to panel and activating the maximize and minimize buttons in gnome tweaks....
@@MiraSmit True, but with Gnome I'm still pretty much a newbie... why not include those as standard? I have managed it before (with a fair bit of cursing lol) but I still don't think it is a 'natural' desktop for people new to Linux or people with novice level computer skills. Cinnamon is a natural desktop, Budgie is also pretty natural, Deepin is also easy once you get a handle on a few simple things... Gnome looks and acts differently. Just my opinion though :) As someone fairly new to Linux and who started with novice level skills, it always frustrated me when POP was recommended for newbies. Please don't misunderstand, I still think POP is an awesome distro, but I would still use Manjaro Gnome or Ubuntu Gnome ahead of it, at this moment in time anyway :)
@@emjaycee Sadly no, you have to download gnome tweaks. Then you have to install the gnome extension for your web browser. On the website you can then download the dash to panel extention. Then gnome tweaks will allow you to customize the the dash to panel further as so on which size you want the panel, weather you want it see through or full black, the size of the icons and more.
@@MiraSmit Gnome Tweaks I can do... it's easy :) It's the extensions that are a pain in the butt :) Pity they can't include extensions in the POP shop or something lol. Would make it all a LOT easier :) Like I said, I really like how Manjaro did it with their Desktop Layout Switcher... pure magic for a dodo like me :)
Michael reading your comment I guess you mean by "average" user a typical Win7 user.
If you want a Win7 looking distro install Mint Cinnamon with CinnVIIStarkMenu out of the Applets.
Now your Desktop and menu will look Exactly the same as Win7 (you can tweek that menu even more if you like)
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7:19 - Linux Mint does have a OEM Installer, Joe Collins did a video on it... in 18.3, I think it's the last option on the Bootloader.
I think ALL Ubuntu flavors have a OEM Installer.
I like the way Pop!_OS does it with the user setting up everything when booted, so it's like an OEM install without having to remember to select it.
@@Amos_Huclkeberry Yeah!
At 18:20 he've corrected himself.
I just want windows xp, but since I can't have it due to it not being maintained, what is the next closest os to xp that is still maintained?
I have to give to Pop. I tried both o.s's for years and i keep Pop on my main systems and on my parents PCs as its very stable if you get it right base on your hardware and set it up base on uour work flow, also if you prefer the Mint look, Throw Cinnamon on Pop baby dont gotta keepem separated
popos gnome desktop is prettier, but linux mint is easier to use. In cinnamon click menu button, then pick app - all within a small corner (perhaps 6 square inches) of the screen. Pop os click on activities on top bar then on the applications icon on the side dock, and then on the application icon that's within the matrix of icons that takes u p the whole screen. ie your mouse pointer has traveled the whole screen twice to select your app. But I love the icons.
Cinnamon runs well on Pop-OS. Gives you the familiar apps from Mint. I've been using Mint, mostly, for a real long time but like the nvidia support from Pop-OS. I may switch to it because I like the flexibility of running the point releases between LTS's. I just never really liked Ubuntu proper as much as Mint.
Which distro is better for programming in Python and Ruby?
Is it okay to dual boot with Windows daily? Will it not damage my hard drive?
Dual booting is fine. It's clunky but definitely safe. Any distro will be fine for programming any language. Your dev tools will matter more. There are tons of IDE's, editors, etc. available on Linux. I personally would use Atom or Visual Studio Code for scripting languages.
is mint good for game development,or should I use Pop Os ( I am coming from windows).
Mint 20.2 should be good. There was a problem with the 19x Mints (because of an Ubuntu bug) that caused Wine applications to not work, that has since been resolved.
@@SwitchedtoLinux thanks🤝
What am I missing in the 'hilarious' bit about Debian Mint having a newer version of Libreoffice? (Newbie here wanting to understand more about the broader Linux ecosystem and culture.) Also, I'd love you to do an episode about examples of where you think the Mint editors have listened to the Mint community over other distros, and generally introduce the Mint developer team and who are the big names, funding gigs, and other stuff.
A huge difference is touchscreen support. Gnome is vastly better than cinnamon in that regard. Cinnamon doesnt even hide the cursor. Im now on linuxmint 20 and swapped out the cinnamon desktop for gnome on my lenovo yoga 900 i7
I like your presentation sir.
Just a quick correction: I was using Kubuntu 18.04 and now Kubuntu 20.04 beta and in both I got trough a
$ sudo apt-get - - purge remove snapd
without any ill effect in the system.
They still updated normally, and worked as expected.
Hey man, I'm a math geek too. Just got an XPS L702 -- my first laptop with the inlaid numpad. Also getting a disk with Pop!_OS 19, so might be using that calculator a lot. Also not into games, like you. The math keeps me entertained... ;-)
I use Mint on an old Acer Aspire One with an Atom processor (it's from 2008-2009 or so) with 2GB DDR2. It's actually working really well. Windows 10 just killed the computer entirely and wasn't able to do anything. On Mint I can actually watch youtube in fullscreen 360p. Keep in mind that the monitor is 9.8 inch or something like that and runs at 1024×576.
Basically exact story for my laptop. Windows 10 killed it so went with mint and never looked back. It runs great 👍
both distro are great, but I think, perhaps Im wrong, that pop OS using gnome need more resource than mint.. well if you are 8gb i3/i5 at the leatest generation perhaps would not be a problem.. but lets face it, many of us using linux, in addition to avoid using proprietary OS but also wanna give an old chunk of machine second chance.. this side I think Linux mint is better
but who want to give a system 76 hardware a chance? or starlabs or pinebook? those are better than a proprietary mac
@elie stark happy for you.. 7gigs still rules.. love it whenever old machine came back alive again...
I'm enjoying pop os so far. I like it the customization and layup more than mint. I'm on Pop Os 22.04 lts.
If you have a laptop with an Optimus chip (Intel iGPU and nVidia dGPU) I'd go Pop OS since their nVidia ISO comes not only with the latest nVidia stable driver preinstalled but also a working power manager to switch GPUs which is something no other distro has out of the box and isn't very reliable on other distros if you install a solution like Bumblebee or Optimus Manager after installing the distro. You can get these solutions to work but Pop OS has it working out of the box with no manual intervention needed by the user. It's just less hassle.
For general purpose computing it's a toss up. Both distros are well made, stable and give you access to a similarly large repo of software in their respective official repositories. Mint comes with a great tool for installing and enabling different versions of the kernel, which is handy for anyone with a specific need such as better support for newer hardware which isn't always the case if one sticks only to the long term support kernel. On Pop OS you can install a similar tool but Mint has it out of the box, so most users on Pop OS will rely almost exclusively on Ubuntu's HWE stack for backported patches to the lts kernel.
Thank you for the comparison! I think I'm staying on Linux Mint with Cinnamon. If I want to run Adobe Fusion 360 on my Linux box (a Windows-only program), do you recommend using VirtualBox, or something else?
If your machine is more powerful, yes, a VB would work, but also check wine / proton to see if it works on that.
@@SwitchedtoLinux Thank you! I'll see which one has the best performance.
@@GlennLewis Have you tried it? I'd guess the non-VM way works best.
@@CTimmerman I couldn't get a non-VM way to work, so I don't run Fusion on Linux.
@@GlennLewis Looks like Gist 0fab254aa0b6fc371d8db641822bd530 explains how to run it in Wine, but it has suspiciously many comments so is probably system-dependent.
i'm concerned about ubuntu. both pop os and peppermint have been giving me trouble. such as freezes and file read errors. i'm testing fedora atm to see if there are any changes and so far so good. mint unfortunately is a no go. it doesnt like my amd apu. just for kicks try pop with cinnamon. its awsome
I couldn't install Pop because its install windows didn't fit my virtual screen, and my Windows 10 laptop from HP with AMD GPU (which i mistakenly compared to Intel HD instead of Intel UHD graphics) also had BSODs from Chrome's hardware acceleration until i disabled that and/or updated AMD's drivers.
i have a question, if you got a nvidia gpu and want to use things like rtx would it work if you were to use a vm or would you have to boot into windows?
Thanks to the theam behind pop!_OS. It's the only OS that works on my new gaming laptop !
Hello thanks for your videos. I am searching for a fast and good notebook (2017-2018) to purchase used and install linux. Cheap & Clever as the linuxers are. The prices of the new ones are "obscene", there are a lot of most importante things to pay for in the life. Today I use a Lenovo 510 core i7 wifi 8gram 250ssd that gived three year of great performance, but now the board start to fail. Any idea?
I usually head to Best Buy and get a computer from the open box pile. For the most part, I generally have not had issues with any computer. Dells and Lenovos are usually the best computers for Linux, but most will work just fine.
Like this video you did. Myself I run Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon on a AMD based desktop I built back in 2008 as a daily driver, been using Mint since version 5. I have Mint 19.3 Xfce running on a x200 Thinkpad with 4 gig ram. However, I am considering POP OS for a future gaming PC, since my current Windows 10 Pro PC is choking for some reason when I play Diablo III and I am curious if I will see an improvement if I play Diablo III under Pop OS.
Never tried PopOS, but I really like Mint Cinnamon. I never did care for Gnome. Cinnamon looks elegant, like it's designed for executives. Gnome looks a little too Fisher-Price for my tastes. As for any differences in stability, efficiency, etc., I never had Ubuntu installed long enough to find out. All I know is that Mint has been smooth sailing for the last 6 years.
looks like I prefer the look of linux mint, but I'm a gamer, so I should probably go with Pop os.
I use both distros. Both are awesome!!!!
Nice, but which is best at what? Mint for XP-like ease and mutability, and Pop for gaming?
What is better for gaming? Mint or Pop?
Pop
@@wilachizu7503 Pop or Fedora?
Thank you, Tom. But any review of Pop before Pop-shell is integrated in 20.04 is pointless because this includes the option for i3 tiling and keybindings which radically changes the game. And Pop has planned to use Debian if Ubuntu goes under. Mint is great, but Pop is becoming something that no one else is doing.
I'm sorry but what's a popshell or i3? Thank you
@@jeanbiroute , i3 is a very popular tiling Window Manager. Pop-shell is an extension to the Gnome shell which brings i3's features as an option.
I just updated my kernel to 6.5.7 on Pop Os. I like Pop More than Mint. Mint feels outdated while Pop feels fresh. Mint also isn't on the current kernel that Pop has. I like the desktop environment on Pop better than Mint. I did install KDE on Pop so that I can get the Login Screen Setting. Mint has small menu and Icons while Pop has icons that i can see clearly. I do have a modern laptop. Mint needs to update to look more modern. Mint could create two versions of Mint one Classic and one Modern.
It’s Linux. You can change things.
I'm a computer illiterate 😔. But got so pissed with Microsoft 😈😤 that I decided to find my courage and install POP yesterday . I'm still learning. I got a message for Microsoft:
KISS MY ASS
I like Mint.
But I also like Pop OS.
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Yeah, I use both because they are both equally awesome. I dualboot them on 2 separate drives.
Is it possible to put a KDE or Mate desktop on Pop OS?
Yes. It is based on Ubuntu, so follow the instructions for installing those to Ubuntu
They actually have an article on their website support.system76.com/articles/desktop-environment/
Life without Ubuntu? It's been around for 14.5 years and doesn't appear to be going away anytime in the foreseeable future.
my problem wit this pop OS the last time i used was that i reminded of windows update system. it made me terrified of updating again because of fear that some things would get broken again. every other update broke for example broke hardware acceleration in browsers. and when things got broken it go me thinking maybe its because i'm not using the system 76 machines where this OS is intended to run. its probably not true but the thought of is always in the back of your mind when things get broken on updates.
For gamers, vanilla arch running xfce is the absolute best for running games.
Similarly, manjaro is a good alternative if you aren't experienced enough to install vanilla Arch
Does the desktop environment affect games and their compatibility?
I found that Gnome in Pop OS affected CSGO, which is a cpu-bound game very badly. It was to the point of being unplayable, due to constant 3-second stutters that are unacceptable in a competitive game.
The frame rate was normal, well above 300 fps, but it was choppy at the same time. Now the difference when I installed XFCE was night and day, without exaggeration, either with the xfwm4 compositor on or off.
So in the end I decided to switch to Mint, since it has a native XFCE version, because you still have some traces of Gnome in Pop even after selecting XFCE.
I did like Gnome in Pop OS though, especially in the 20.1 version, considering how fast it was. But the performance hit in some games and also on Blender was something I couldn't ignore.
I have a question. I had a problem with rufus and balena cause I wanted to make a bootable for pop os but almost all the flash drives I've used (even bought a new one) always somehow wouldn't show up after creating the bootable. I had tried to fix the flash drives and managed to restore them.
Use ntfs with rufus and flash pop os
Try Ventoy, makes USB booting really easy, next level stuff
I like how Mint looks like. Is there a way to add that menu or menu from Linux Lite to PopOS?
Nice video. Personally, I wish the human capital in the POP project would all roll over into MINT and the new superteam would execute Mint's escape plan to get away from Ubuntu. It won't happen as everyone gets so precious over their own distro, but here's dreaming.
Doesn't the GPL ensure people can use each other's code as long as it stays available?
Technically you should be able to play wine or steam games on either distro. Just a matter of what you have to set up ...
Technically you can run Doom in Magic the Gathering, or any other Turing-complete system. Doesn't mean you can play it out of the box, though.
I do like Pop with KDE. Not a fan of Gnome. I'll have to check out Mint/Cinnamon again. Nice video.
Can I install the XFCE desktop and then uninstall GNOME without deleting packages important to the operation of the system?
I come from windows and I have tried MX linux, Xubuntu and Mint xfce
How did you replaced tiling pop shell with KDE? I can't stay without that tiling windows manager. I'm addicted!
can you make PopOS to look like Mint?
Gnome would be ok had they not stripped Naultilus so far back as to make it next to useless. But they did, and so Nautilus is a pain to work with
Viruses are not much of a problem in Linux but rootkits certainly are. "In fact, the first rootkit ever written was for Unix!" (GuidingTech.com). If the thing gets a hold of your BIOS, it's pretty much impossible to remove. At least until now. What can be done to neutralize this malware? Should Linux systems have better defense methods to thwart rootkits before they hijack our computers? All ideas are welcome, folks.
What is a Rootkit and How does it Infect your PC?
@@doogoodminds8157 Thoughtful short questions with rather long answers. I think Wikipedia does a good job here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
Hope it helps.
I decided to ditch Windows 10 on my laptop. My laptop has both an Intel and Nvidia graphics card, should I choose either Pop or Mint? The only real game I really play now is Quake Live on Steam.
I want to know the same thing
try Mint
Pop! OS is used for more generally for gaming if you play Steam games. Like he said Wine is better for Mint so Lutris is probably better also. I have used both of them. Since having a Steam account I went to Pop! OS.
I like Pop! OS but trying to use Gnome makes me want to take a rusty spoon and gouge my eyeballs out. If I hadn’t already have a custom built PC running Linux Mint, I could see a Thelio from System76 on my desktop.
Just install plasma?
I like both but I run into problems with mint like screen artifacts on my laptop screen but not my two connected monitors, and sometimes won't install at all. After watching this video I had high hopes for mint but again fell short. I'm a game developer and I wanted something that new Linux users would likly gravitate to. Pop os just works. I just edit the theme colors a bit, and install my dev tools. The distro I really want is manjaro plasma. It's so beautiful but I can't get the graphics driver to install correctly to get my hdmi and display ports to work, also dotnet does not install correctly. My goal is to make games for Linux and MacOS only and bypass winblows. I know that's a big market but I really hate microsloth.
how does ram usage compare?
Going by the install GUI size, Pop!_OS is bigger.
I'm a Windows user n I'm new to Linux mint .is there any possible of changing absolute volume in Bluetooth speaker? 😕
Alsamixer or your task bar's volume control should do. The Bluetooth speaker probably has its own volume control as well, which if not a dial might be overridable via Bluetooth; check the manual or forums. I see this is separate from that, though: pactl set-sink-volume name_of_bluetooth_speaker +3%
Hey could you do Arya Linux vs Nutyx,theyre both out of the box LFS distros.
Both based on Ubuntu. Comes down to desktop preference. Gnome, Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE. Mint 3 - Pop 1
Either would be brilliant... Why do companies pay for Windows?!? Mint/Pop/Ubuntu are excellent and the average person will be fine. Plus huge savings on licensing costs
Incorrect, Linux Mint does in fact have an OEM install version.
How about MX Linux?
Obs: Linux mint also have OEM install
I don't like Cinnamon. It doesn't have nearly enough eye candy and extra features to justify its RAM usage. XFCE accomplishes the same things, and does it much more efficiently. (Although I don't really like XFCE either--I'm a KDE man for the moment)
So... even when you have plenty of RAM you refuse to install a Cinnamon distro because it is using to much Memory?
Never heard that argument to choose a distro of liking!!!
@@spooky3669 No reason efficiency can't be important, even when you have a lot of resources.
@@spooky3669 if that's the case I would rather use gnome which has similar ram usage but is way more good looking and feature rich.
I have it installed on a quad core with 8 GB RAM, and my CPU usage idles around 0-3%. I still haven't seen it momentarily jump above 24% on any single core, and that's with a browser full of open tabs; even then, the average usage is around 10%. I've never seen it jump above 40% RAM usage. That's all within normal performance ranges, so I'm not sure what the problem is. I've edited videos and recorded music with less than 4 GB RAM using Mint Cinnamon.
What exactly do you plan to use your computer for that you need something ultra-efficient?
I was using POP 19.10 and was looking forward to the 20.04 updates until I heard about how much they were pushing snaps in the app centers. I switched over to Manjaro Gnome at the start of the year and have been very happy with it ever since. Really don't like Ubuntu pushing snaps when there are perfectly good versions in the repositories.
As far as I know Pop doesn't do snap at all. They'll go flatpak. Think you're messing up pop os, mint ( no snap either) and ubuntu. And besides, if you don't want snap, don't use it. Disable snapd or remove it alltogether. Vice versa is also true, you can enable it, even on manjaro.
@@johnmaletic898 Maybe but I just don't like it that when I open the app center and go to DL my usual apps, I have to check because they want to push snaps. I accidentally installed snaps instead of the repo versions when I was checking out the distros in a VM which sucks because they take longer to DL and are usually slower to start up. They really should just do a separate app center only for snaps.
@@perdomot Stores. They often tend to obese. But, haven't done a DE in over 12 years myself, but I believe ubuntu uses two stores unlike mint and pop (and some others). Personally, as far as apt goes, I only do synaptic or terminal installs .
@@johnmaletic898 I've started using the terminal and synaptic a lot more as well.
Jenga 500 what is a snap. And what is best to download ...? I’m new to Linux, still investigating
Linux Mint is my favourite linux distro.
Which flavor? I like Mint Cinnamon, Mint Xfce, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu, in that order.
Nvidia 18.04 LTS has horrible default video drivers. I would use the 19 versions and 20.04 instead.
Linux promoters should always sell Linux Mint to regular computer users who are whining about windows and getting curious. All distros should at least unite around this one point! Sell Mint to newbies - forever and always. It eliminates the confusion and uncertainty for newcomers if they see EVERYONE saying Mint. It unites the Linux world around the one gateway drug. If you're talking to a hacker I would still say convert them to Linux Mint, and then they'll go play with other bleeding edge distros from there. After all, they're hackers. They can't help themselves. Downloading and customising their own new distro thang with their cheeto stained fingers in their grandma's basement is living their BEST LIFE! But for the rest of us, we actually don't want bleeding edge. We want reliability. We want something that works with minimal fuss and tinkering. Mint seems to have all the *good* stuff about Apple without the bad - it has safety, reliability, usability and beauty of Apple - but without the Apple arrogance and control. The Mint developers listen to the community and of course Mint is Linux so you can totally hack it if you want to.
If Tim Heidecker had a cousin that listened to Mac Demarco non-stop, he would look exactly like you. Not an insult, btw.
What is the lightest mint for ram useage could you test?
xfce, It uses about 30-35 % in idle of ram on an old 1gb Ram , 1.8 gHz processor.
I tried antix for even more lightweight linux, but didn't like the interface and navigation at all.
I must say that Linux is far more fun to play with in theming, where Microsoft has become boring and dull and bland
It seems that windows is and cant seem to get there act together without breaking something and I'm hearing more and more problems that are popping up with there latest update. Linux on the other hand just works and the whole team deserves a huge thank you.
That's odd. I struggled to install mint and kubuntu. Ubuntu worked well but the battery was down a lot quicker than on windows.
With windows, i never had an issue even when updating to windows 11.
I need a simpler way to launch the app draw for pop.os because having to do so many clicks is a problem for me.
A bit late, but you should check out Ulauncer!
@@TheWrongBobby Ok thanks will check it out
Which flavor is best?
The one that works for YOU!
That to me is the spirit of Linux in a nutshell. Control your computer, don't let it control you.
In Russia, YOU work for distro!
Why you guys don't like snap support?
1. Snap was created by Canonical (Ubuntu) which equals proprietary software which equals too much like Microsoft tactics. 2. Snaps are bigger than App Images since it doesn't share any of the libraries and requires the same libraries to be re-installed for each Snap app. 3. Snaps are slow to open on first start. 4. Snaps don't adhere to DE themes (They've been working on fixing this). 5. Snaps use more memory and drive space 6. Ubuntu is pushing Snaps over App images by defaulting to installing a Snap app over an app image via their Software Center and now in APT in CLI mode.
This is giving too much control to one company that is pushing their own agenda real hard to developers, the community, and other smaller distros out there. This is a complete Microsoft type tactic that should bother any one if not cause some concern.
Just my two cents!
@@riseabove3082 Then dont use it
@@riseabove3082 I'm a Windows user too, using dual boot right now. I'm slowly switching to linux, because as a junior developer I understand companies interest in linux based systems and desktop usages.
It doesn't feel like Windows strategy, it feels much more like Android one.
I don't think it is a trap to make people fall into non-free software.
I think the main point of the technology is not efficiency, but instead developing better user experiences for newcomers.
I suppose the main point of what you said is that you will have same packages several times in different "containers", to name it. So you lose control, and linux guys don't like losing control.... But the average people don't mind about that, they want their apps working and little more.
When I read you, I feel you have some hate to canonical (and you are not the first person that i hear/read), and I know that Canonical have made some non orthodox decisions (based on linux philosophies), but I don't know if Canonical deserves that much hate for that. Somehow, if someone decided randomly to try linux, Canonical has a big piece of participation in that fact.