American Reacts to Packing For a Hike in Norway
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As Americans it is very rare that we go on hikes here in the United States. Today I am very excited to learn about what you need to pack for a hike in Norway, one of the most famous hiking countries. If you enjoyed the video feel free to leave a comment, like, or subscribe for more!
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They forgot to mention two important things: A compass (your phone could get destroyed or you could be out of coverage) and a good map (1: 50,000) over the area you plan to hike in.
They do however show the compass/map when they show everything layed out.
That is so true!
Yeah, compass and map is important. If you've ever been up in the mountains when a thick fog rolls in you'll be very glad to have those.
They also forgot Kvikklunsj…..😉🇳🇴
Coverage for a phone is not necessary if you use a navigation app with offline maps. A compass only helps you with good maps and the knowledge where you are. If I'm in doubt I take an additional navigation device with me (yes they were a thing in the old days), mark the starting point and the endpoint and have a backup this way. Most have a magnetic compass built in (like phones).
For someone who does as much hiking as I do, you see all kind of weird things out in the mountains and so much trouble could be avoided if people heeded this kind of advice.
I have on several occasions met people out there in need of assistance, simply because they went on hikes they weren't prepared for.
The worst example is back in 2014, a group of american women were out hiking in Husedalen/Kinsarvik, 3 of them wearing high heels.
I tried not to laugh at them and help them out as best I could, but that was kind of shocking that anyone would want to go out hiking in footwear like that.
Several people die while hiking each year I Norway. Mostly in the western mountains and pretty much all of them are tourists.
Always be prepared having to survive a night in the mountains.
Going to the Pulpit Rock in flip flops is a really good idea. And that's not a hard hike.
@@theuniversewithin74👍🏻😉🇳🇴
The weather in Norway and especially in the mountains can be EXTREME and change completely in a veeery short amount of time. We have a saying when it comes to hiking in Norway that is "Det er ingen skam å snu" that means there's no shame in going back. Having respect for the weather can be the difference between life and death.
Before the internet, there was this thing called radio that had an audio "stream" of the weather forecast every hour.
I would say she is slighlty over packing for a 1 day trip. You can solve a lot of the issues she is packing for by using rain resistant gear, like proper hiking trousers, and maintaining rain resistance on your backpack. How I would pack clothes for a 1 day trip: Find everything i need for the worst expected weather, then take off what I don't need for the weather at any given time and put in the backpack. Extra change of undergarments (socks in particular) in case of wetness. She also forgot navigation tools (compass, map). I would also bring a small axe or a knife.
I've went on day trips with nothing but the rain resistant clothes on my back, and that is fine if you know the area and what you need. I drank water from the streams and ate berries, seeds and plants.
Agree, for one day this is to much. Its nice to have,but you will manage fine with less.
You need.
Something to sit on.
Food
Water
Kviklunsj
And a tarp maybe :-)
Yes was thinking the same thing, Instead of packing this much clothes I would rather recommend getting a survival bag/blanket to have in her backpack😅
And if she packs this much for a day, what will she pack for a weekend?
I grew up hiking and I can just hear the comments my dad would come with if I had this much stuff in my bag for a one day trip. The worst mistake you do is to pack way more then necessary. I have been that person that have taken things out of my friends backpack before we set off, and even taken things over in my own backpack along the trip because they are not used to hiking long hikes and are carrying more then they need...
And yes knife, always a little knife and matches or a lighter😛
Honestly I feel like she underprepared.
You should prepare for at least being stuck in the mountains for two days even on a day trip, just in case of injuries, so the rescue people have time to locate you.
Also, bring pain killers, it won't stop a broken leg from hurting, but every little bit helps in case of a injury...
@Luredreier a medical 3d printer for making a cast is better than pain killers
The weather can change very quickly up in the high mountains, you start to walk in nice sunny weather, and suddenly the temperature drops, it starts to be windy, dark clouds come in and it starts to rain, even snow.
And you don't want to just be wearing shorts and a t-shirt if that happens.
Yes happens to me more than once.
You can't walk for hours and hours in uneven, sometimes (in parts) rather boggy terrain, jump across streams and slick tree roots etcetera in your Converse. You'll be exhausted, have your feet wet and blistered, and possibly suffer a sprained ankle or slip and fall halfway to the goal. And if you're five miles from your car or cabin then, you're in deep trouble. Hiking boots is a must, even for hikes that aren't extreme by any stretch of the Norwegian imagination.
Weather is unpredictable on higher altitudes everywhere on earth, even in America.
When you walk 15-20 miles in the mountains with elevation differences and walking around water it can not be stressed enough that good footwear is essential.
The rain cover for your bag is a must in norway and all young school kids have them.
05:23 Keep in mind the national motto/saying "There is no bad weather, only bad clothing." The reason for preparing like this, with all kinds of different clothing, is due to Norway's often unpredictable weather, that could go from sunny and cloudless sky to a sudden and unexpected downpour in as little as minutes. Weather forecasts can only do so much, so most people that look at the forecast will usually think "Alright, cool, but I won't be surprised if that changes during the day." as the weather is often prone to do here. If you go hiking on a sunny day as prepared as these two are, you may obviously feel more exhausted than if you hadn't brought all of those things, but on the other hand, bringing with you all of these things may be the difference between coming back to your car soaking wet from head to toe and practically being completely dry. That is not to mention the fact that if you end up stuck in the wilderness for whatever reason, being this prepared - or even better prepared - will significantly increase your chances of survival, whether by yourself or waiting for rescuers to find and rescue you.
Yeah, I honestly feel like they where underprepared.
Being prepared for being stuck for at least two nights is a good thing even on a single day trip, in case of bad weather or injury, as it'll likely take the rescue people time to find you in bad weather, and they might be unable to move in right away.
"Is it that much of a threat to get wet?"
Depends on the season, but getting wet on a hike is never fun. Besides just being uncomfortable getting wet just about guarantees that you will get blisters and sores on your feet. And even in the summer it can get pretty cold on overcast days up in the mountain and hypothermia is a threat. If you get wet during the winter you are in a life and death situation.
Packing dry clothes for your hike is a literal lifesaver. Also having wind-blocking outer clothes is important because if the wind picks up the wind chill can sap your heat away even if you're dry.
Every year we hear stories in the news of tourists getting in trouble up in the mountains because they didn't listen to advice from more experienced hikers.
Hiking in the mountains is perfectly safe if you prepare and have some basic knowledge. But for the unprepared it is just a matter of time before they end up in serious trouble.
Yeah, pretty much...
And honestly it's a good idea to be prepared for a night or two in the mountains even if you don't plan to, just in case of a injury.
This is all common sense to most norwegians. And yes, the wetness is actually a threat. You can get hypothermia even during
the summer if you're high up in the mountains (it's not very likely, but it can happen if the sun sets and you get stuck and so on). Also you put the toilet paper down into the hole you dug for your log laying, and then cover it with the dirt. It's paper after all, breaks down in a year or so if covered by dirt. One thing i'd bring in addition is a thermos of hot water so that you can make tea during the trip. It's a great way to recover from being cold while you hang up your wet clothes and change into dry ones.
Yepp, I have more in my backpack on a day trip in the mountains in Norway than what I had on a three-month round trip in India 20 years ago.
Yes, Norwegians love hiking, and we can have four seasons in a day as the weather can be unpredicatble even during the summer. I would also bring a map and compass as we enjoy going into forrests to pick berries and mushroms. You usually find them where there are no paths, and then you need a map and compass.
If you are hiking for several days in the mountain you also need a tent. If you are on a mountain, the fog is dangerous. Then you need to go back down to the first green place, put up the tent, and wait.
Wool keep you warm even if its wet! Cotton will become cold. Silk can be a maybe alternative...
Long time ago i participated in the Nato exercise ", Avalanche express". We had plastic bag toilets. It was nesseceary. Imagine 20.000 soldiers shitting for 3 weeks in the nature. Thats a lot of crap. I still feel sorry for those soldiers carrying all that shit to a safe deposit. It was solid frozen though. Being norwegian is being consious. And hard. Very hard.
Last hicing i did tok 8 houers, and we had all sort of werher that day ! Snow, Fog, Walking in fog is very unsafe when the fog is thick, and it was ! So we had to sit down for to houers. Then came both rain and strong wind, but when it stopped blowing just an hour and a half later, it was good to go again, and soon after the sun came out, and the wind calmed down, so the last part of the trip was magical !!
Sheep knew what to wear ... you can trust them !
If you have to cross a small river, you remove your trousers and shoes, and cross with wool sox, because wool is not slippery, so you need two or three pairs.
Always bring toilet paper, even if there is supposed to be an outhouse. Sometimes the outhouses have wet, dirty toiletpaper, or no toiletpaper at all.
So many.-So many tourists underestimate the Norwegian mountains. The weather change fast. Fog,wind and even snow can come in the summer. In the most popular routes. There are rescue teams walking constantly! Just because they think they can walk "in their normal shoes"
to little clothes and no food. Hiking is hard. So be prepared. And we have no railings in Norway. So watch where you walking.
Check the phone network too in case of emergency. Have a satellite phone and in extreme cases you will need a garmin device to call for help.
Wool garments are often chosen because they breath and keep warm even when wet. Though, not everyone like wool (it's itchy) and choose other materials which have similar properties. Some also wear two pairs of socks in their hiking boots. A thin pair of cotton or wool socks and a thicker pair of wool socks on top. Supposedly, it's supposed to prevent chafing on the feet.
Most modern wool clothes do not itch, luckily. I still remember the old wool underwear from the 70´s and 80´s. Those were nasty, but warm.
This is why there is a rule for hikers in the USA not to use the bathroom right off the trail. Imagine the number of people leaving their things, including toilet paper, or period pads ! Sadly, this is how a middle-aged lady died when leaving the trail to use the bathroom she could never find her way back again.
Our school backpacks all came with rain coverages, and hearing someone call these things extreme sound so funny haha!
I just realized that we actually dont have just one word for what americans call "hiking". I live 30 km outside of Oslo. Nature close by. And have a dog. We are in the forest every day. I'm not hiking. I'm just walking my dog. 30 min. is just a short walkie. A regular walk last 1-1.5 hrs. Still just walking. Not hiking. No need to bring anything with me. Sometime my mind drift away and it turn into a "solid walk". Still in nature and forest, but not hiking. Then it can turn into 2-3 hrs. I dont bring anything with me other than suitable clothing for the weather. I can get thirsty but so? Strangely enough I' survive..(!). When I plan to stay out 3-4 hrs, I usually pick a destination and make a "solid walk". Not hiking. It doesnt matter were it is. Then I can bring some water and snack (KVIKK LUNSJ++) and a sitting pad. In the wither maybe an extra sweeter. When I walk in the mountains. I do a full day mountain walk. THEN I pack like you see cause the weather can swift from sunny and warm to hard rain and coldness within minutes even thou the forecast said different. I MIGHT call that hiking, but If I would really call anything "hiking" it will include spending at least one night outside. If not.. I'm simply just taking a walk of various degrees..
Better safe than sorry when it comes to hikes in the mountains. The weather is very unpredictable, and you might very well freeze to death unless you have proper gear. If on the other hand you're well prepared, chances are you'll be fine. And I don't think you're Norwegian unless you own at least one good backpack 😆 I have several of various sizes. Can't have too many backpacks 😅
We had weather rapport the digital age before too. Nobody takes so much with them. You need to have something warm, something to keep dry, but you obviously don’t need all that.
the bag over backpacks do school kids also usually have also, (yellow and with reflects on it), when they walk to school either with parents if very small or alone. very smart
02:56 Quite possibly, yes. It's important to note that a lot of school will take classes on field trips, and often on these field trips, lots of walking in and off the terrain is involved, more than often involving even hiking up various local mountains or into the various local forests, etc. This will obviously mean that the parents will be informed that proper hiking boots are recommended for their child's comfort, and most that have the money for hiking boots will buy a pair - or two - for their children. Aside from the children going on school trips, walking up a mountain or in the forest is good exercise in general, so a lot of adults will buy a pair - or two - of good hiking boots for this purpose, while others might buy them simply for the sake of being prepared 'just in case.'
Your comment reminds me of a story a few years ago when a German high-school class had to be rescued down from an area in the Narvik/Skjomen mountains .... a quite remote area and at an altitude well over 1000 meter. They were very poorly equipped, had hardly any food and had lost their direction ...hence couldn't find their way. A random Norwegian hiker discovered that group of young people who walked around in shorts ....and at the same time complained how cold it was ....and how extremely hard/difficult it was to walk in the mountains there. They were simply clueless about what they had embarked on of mountain hiking in northern Norway.
Their teachers explanation / excuse afterwards was that it was the Norwegian mountains and "unpredictable" weather that was to blame for the situation they ended up in ....not themselves and their blunt ignorance.... They had dreamed for a long time about doing such a trip ...they said .....and they had even ...in advance....had a training trip where they had made a hike in Denmark...
....well....well....well....what a genius way of doing things ......having a training hike in Denmark...of all places...!!!!
We drink water from the river or creek...
We have a saying; No shame in turning around. It means" don`t be stupid and you will stay alive".
Do not matter what the weather man says. it may help for some people ofc..
You learn to see and feel what the weather will be like. pressure, humidity, clouds formation / height /speed, and so on.
Be aware of nature
speaking from personal experience, ofc you need to know the area. to predict it correctly 90% of the time.
areas can have something that changes the weather in real short time, so know your area :D
Also: check out Tylor Bucket on Canada and Tylor Runple on the UK. Same guy different names. I just admire this guy.
And Tyler Burger on Japan.
Did you just noticed that btw.
Him and his twin brother has a a grocery list of TH-cam channels.
... matches, if you want to make fire to keep you warm....
I would say this is for an 8-10 hour ++ walk, in the mountains. I used to live near Trolltunga and sooo many tourists needed rescuing (often by helicopter) because they were not prepared for the 8-12 hours of hiking it takes to get there... Showing up in flip-flops and jeans, with no food or water...
She's absolutely over packing. For a 1 day hike in the mountains I would skip most of the extra clothing, pack the down jacket and a wind and rain jacket.
I wear a thin wool layer close to my skin when hiking. Wool is great because it insulates even if its wet.
You don't need all this, but it makes hiking a lot more comfortable. Two jackets are great. One thick and warm and the other one thin and breathable
I presume they would. you have to have a good back pack! because you going to be carrying it for hours. Wool socks for warm comfort in your boots because you get blisters from wearing wet socks and I think one coat. that is an all round jacket for all weathers Kendall mintcake. Yes because everywhere is rocky cold or wet. Dig a hole poop wipe and cover😂😂 I could be in the army
I have two pairs of hiking shoes, one with spikes under, and one without. Even though I dont hike much anylonger, they are also great for everyday use in the winter. Once I saw an American woman trying to hike in high heals. Not to be recommended.
10:35 Sometimes hiking takes half a day to all day, on some of these occasions, toilets are few and far between, and that's only if you are lucky. Having toilet paper with you makes things a lot more comfortable after doing a number 2 in nature, as you won't have to use leaves, grass or, god forbid, your sock or other clothing instead...
You don't need the Internet for the weather. There were other ways before. You can read the general forecast in newspapers. The radio stations send weather reports. There are (were?) telephone services for the weather, some from airports. On some places or campsites they hang out the local weather report.
Hi as a Norwegian I can confirm that most people have mountain boots. For the good ones that last long we are paying round 200-250 dollars… 😅
honestly, i'd say most equipment here is made to be mountainhike friendly, at least where im from all backpacks etc even for 1st graders are fairly well equipped to go mountian hikinh eith multiple straps and a rain cover build into the backpack.
Back in the day, a long long time ago before the internet, how ever could we get the weather forecast? 😅
that with rain and wind resistance isn't as important where I live, inland in the south where the weather isn't as extreme (Innlandet Fylke) but in other places, it is absolutely necessary
Steven Van Zandt did it in the middle of winter in dress shoes, black coat, and a revolver.
In Lilyhammer, and survived.. No biggy..
I’m just a big fat guy, but even I own a couple of pairs of mountain boots.
There was no problem to get info on weather pre internet times. Some radio channels had weather reports as the main ingrediens. Also backpages in the newspaper there could be weather report for next day or a long weather report. At least my local newspaper has always done that. Main difference is today we expext to gets todays weather report pronto, while before we looked forward to what weather we could get the next day.
Youä'll get sick if you get wet and you don't want to fill ill while walking around in the foggy mountains. :)
You really dont need all those jackets. If you have a wind and water proof jacket you can just add or remove clothing under the jacket.
Good boots, toilet paper, a small axe or saw, matches or good old flint, extra wool socks and extra wool sweater will get you far. And some real turmat to cook on the little fire you just built. Never actually brought water anywhere though, just had a foldacup in my pocket to drink from streams, Water is the heaviest thing you'll have in your pack and you don't want to carry more weight than you have to
In order to respect nature you have to experience nature. In order to experience nature you have to have immersed yourself in it.
Fjellduk is also a good idea to have if you go hiking a lot, encounter bad weather or get if you get injured and have to lie down, it can even save your life😊
There are many national parks in the US, with trails and campsites. I have been watching Kyle Hates Hiking and learnt a lot about the trails and stuff. Apparently, hiking is very common and popular in the US too. Quid ?
You have 3 thru hikes in USA....the Appalachian trail, the PCT and the CDT .They are really famous in USA and popular to Americans hikers and hikers from all over the world
They have much more. All of Alaska, among other things.
I'm an old woman, i have never been a great hiker , but even though i own most of the stuff theese young and super exsperiensed people have. But it all comes down to how long shall the hike last?
Kyle made a lot of videos about strange events on the trail, disappearances, murders, ... kind of scary.
Me, a norwegian wearing mountain boots to work, since it is snowy: XD
edit: also mentally counting how many hking backpacks i have at home... 3.
Wether can switsh wery fast. One day hike, can turn into two or more days in the montain.
Like your videos, Tyler! :D ✌ fra Norge! :D (from Norway).................."That's not how YOU SAY THAT!" xD
Weather forecast...... just look outside? :P
I never carry water with me, only a cup to get water from the nearest creek. Nobody used to carry water before, it is an issue invented by newer generations
I don't have mountaib shoes. I have three pairs of the old Alfa M77 from the military....if you take care of thrm they'll last almost forever. :)
Most Americans think it's weird when Norwegians want to walk 2 blocks. Americans have an unhealthy obsession with cars. It's almost like they've forgotten they have 2 legs. Most American cities aren't made for walking and some places it's not an option at all. Norwegians in general are Lars Monsen compared to Americans.
You know there was weather forcasts before internett..
Learn how to type.
naw, usually just one jacket is enough, it should be both wind and waterresistant though...
Norwegian here! This is all relative to what kind of hike you are going on, for how long and if you know the area! I go on 4-5 hours of hiking with my dogs almost every day and dont really bring anything for myself cause i'll be back home afterwards - i just put on the clothes that fits the weather and off we go! 🐕🦺
For 4-5 hours I'd recommend preparing being stuck for a day or two, in case of a injury the amount of area you can cover in 4-5 hours would take a while to search.
Preparing for a week for a day trip is excessive however.
Just 2 days, just in case.
Rescue people will find you and be able to bring you further supplies if needed if you're within a days walk of civilization.
I would assume every norwegians person owns a pair of mountain boots at least once in their life. Maybe you outgrew them and never got new ones, or your life is so busy that you haven't gotten time to be outdoors and that is why you haven't gotten around to getting new boots. But go around asking if we own or have at one point owned a pair of mountain boots the answer is yes
The number 1 priority is to stay dry as water wicks heat away from your body 10 times faster that air...
As for layers my grandfather's advice would have been better to have it & not need it than to need it & not have it...
She forgot fire starter or fire or matches kinda thing
Most important as they said is to have a good package lmao
its not uncommon to see your phone show its so sunny outside where you are, at the same time your phone is getting wet from rain. Its alot harder to predict weather here as well i think. Yeah you can laugh at the toilet paper, but you WILL remember the time you forgot it and had to use moss with pineneedles in it instead to wipe your butt lol
Wow! It seems the only time Americans walk is to a fast food joint. I love Tylers amazement at everything. The American term 'going to the bathroom' always sounds silly to me. Even more so in the context of hiring across the wilderness, twenty miles away from the nearest 'bathroom'.
I've been a hill walker for fifty years and I usually walk for anything between a week and three weeks at a time, not a day. Those people in the video are idiots. I would carry about a quarter of the gear they have, probably less. A CUSHION? A SHOVEL? WTF. If you feel you need all the gadgets they displayed, then perhaps you shouldn't leave the house 😂
Sports you can normaly just stopp and leave. if you walked 15 miles away from anythign and evrythign and notice a Blister..
Or bad weather is inc...
Take a hike dude 😜
You loose heat from your head and feet som wear wool!
I prefer a rain poncho.
The toilet paper you leave in a hole or under a rock.
Norwegian dont need to know the wather. You pack the essentional and your compas. Then you walk along. If fog or bad wather appares you waith. Ruschhour is not for hiking😊🎉
They forgot to mention map and compass which is very important.
Also bring a friend that can carry for you all that stuff.....since she is doing a bit of a overkill....
....and...well....what about weather information before the time of internet...??? You must be very young....
Let me inform you that internet didn't invent weather forecast .... Modern / scientific based forecast has existed for around a 100 year now. Forecast was multiple times daily broadcast on radio .....and TV when that came around to be.
By the way it was the Norwegian physicist Vilhelm Bjerknes who ....among else....developed the scientific basis for modern meteorology / weather forecasting. Specifically describing the systems with weather fronts (cold/warm fronts) ...and how they move. In science was this way of describing weather systems referred to as the Bergen - school. ....and it stood the test of time ...and is still the way today's meteorology describe and model weather forecasts.
tourists die from hypotermia. norwegians dont, usually, unless they are 94... cos we know norway is a tricky place, and nature can flip on a dime. and for the love of odin: have an analog compass, so you dont run around i circles... and a flashlight. technology will only go so far
I have dug a hole like 2mnd ago😂
You dont really need a shuffle.
Didn't he already do a video similar to this?
Yes he did but he has forgotten that.
There will always come new subscribers, so it's OK to do videos similar to the once you did before.
@@ahkkariq7406 So he's not doing em for himself then. Got it! I mean, this guy is entertaining for all the wrong reasons. He's fake af.
Can you for the love of god stop saying.. To Norwegians.. 90% of the time the To Norwegians line should be.. To Scandinavians. And yes all Scandinavians tens to have clothes for hiking and special shoes and bags as well. All you seen in here is stuff i had maybe 20 items for each thing since 1978. You keep buying this stuff. The Fjäldräv or Eastpack rucksack will akways be a thing here. We take them to the music festivals too, so tou can go through 30 or more in your lifetime even when it says 30 year warranty on it. Nothing last when it gets used by a scandi kid. 😊
4:30
No, she was saying that having a dry backup pair of socks is good in case your feet and your first pair gets wet.
While wet wool still provide heat you do *not* want wet feet while *walking* on them...
8:08
Not necessarily cookies.
I'd actually recommend special mixes of nuts and dry fruits (and possibly chocolate) especially madd for hikes.
15:41
Honestly I feel like they're underprepared.
They didn't prepare for being stuck in the mountains for a few nights, either due to the weather or injuries.
They didn't mention a map and compass for navigation.
And the food was only enough for a day.
Honestly this was stuff for a one hour hike at most...
Actually they didn't hike in the old days. It's something we "invented" around the 70 ties. (+-) Remember most jobs in the early days were physical jobs. We didn't have the need for exercise. But outdoor activity was "normal". It's became popular over the years. ( It could be a response to our interest for outdoor sport) skiing for example...
Well, if YOU have never done or thought about something, neither have the other 340 million Americans….
Sure, YOU don’t hike. You live in Evansville, Indiana amid fields of corn.
There are more mountains in America, and they are taller.
Wait! How do you know where this dude lives?
Every year many tourists dies in Norway when hiking...they don't understand how close to death hiking in mountains can be 😊
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It’s necessary and , it’s pretty annoying to have to bring all of this! 🙈 Imagine a family of five or more, having these items for each person???expensive!! And heavy and much to wash and air out
As a mother of four, I can tell some of the things she had, such as the spade, toilet paper and the blister package, it will be enough to bring one - just make sure the family stick together. It helps to let the children take responsibility for their own packing as soon as they are old enough. If they forget something, it's an experience they learn from - so you'd rather help them with mittens and socks when they've had a taste of the consequences of forgetting.
Yes, you are inclined to being gullible. That trait tends to go hand in hand with ignorance.
overkill for a days hike
thats way to much for one day...just stuff your pockets
Yes, this is just bullshit. Exaggerated!
Again?
Running out of topics?
If you do a lot of hiking you will know way it is importen with good gear.✌🏻🫡🇳🇴