Saxons Faction Guide: Rome Total War Barbarian Invasion

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  • @soldatnr444
    @soldatnr444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    You forgot to mention that the saxons have a unique shrine that improves ranged attacks, giving hunters the gold weapon upgrade

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      ahh thats a good point, thanks for reminding me!

    • @TomatoFettuccini
      @TomatoFettuccini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Adding on to this, if you focus the capital on ranged and the blacksmith/forge, build the experience shrine in Campus Frisii, and land-bridgewith two of your ships, you can have a very hard-hitting archer-based force pretty early on by bouncing units back-and-forth between those cities. Get a third city that's close (like Colonia Agrippa or Campus Chattii) and build the Morale shrine there and good-golly, your opponents have a lot to worry about from you.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So they get an experience shrine, range attack shrine, and morale shrine? Dang. Well played. Shield wall and hide the archers.

  • @r4v3nh0od3
    @r4v3nh0od3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    the Saxons in this game has a really hilarious unit roster, but it still feels good sailing to Britannia and invading

    • @DaDunge
      @DaDunge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because like all english speaking people CA seems to have the misconception that all saxons ended up in England.

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You speak like roman britannia don't have only 2 settlements.
      Where's the fun in conquering two lonely settlements?

    • @GAMER123GAMING
      @GAMER123GAMING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaDunge They had the balls to portray Arthur as a romano briton (English are deeply terrified of actual history and facts)

    • @DaDunge
      @DaDunge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GAMER123GAMING not really seeing your point here.

  • @AAAaaaaaeeeeeeeee
    @AAAaaaaaeeeeeeeee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    These faction guides are becoming a nice little suprise to see on my subscription feed. Keep it up, they're really enjoyable.

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Than you, glad you're enjoying them!

  • @caualongshanks
    @caualongshanks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "The franks doesnt have great options in cavalry" wait thats illegal

    • @hernanreipp6983
      @hernanreipp6983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will said heresy or pagans.
      If your choice is pagan the Frank have average cavalry but if you choice christianism you will have Paladins.

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just finished my ERE campaign, Franks attacked me near Mediolanium, a city that I was sieging. (Heavy forrest map)
      I had an army of 3 archers, 4 lanciarii, 2 veteranii,and rest was Hippo-Toxotai.
      I all I did was dividing Army into three forces, Infantry group with archers up front, horse archer divided into two on far/extreme flanks.
      Let me tell you, Franks had the weakest cavalry units. They immediately charced on the archers, got annihilated on the first contact, routed ane I sent Horse archers slowly (forrest map) to pick up lonely infantry.
      And one time I bridge camped on Franks, lured frankish infantey encircled it with lanciatii, and still immediately lost somehow

  • @thesacredlobo
    @thesacredlobo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The only downside to going to Britain is that the Romano British spawn in once the WRE has lost it's settlements in the region. So you'll end up facing them very early on if you go this route. So, I'd suggest taking Londinum at the start and building up a bit of a presence before capturing Eburacum.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.

    • @napoleon6221
      @napoleon6221 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wish I read this comment before getting myself into a sticky situation just now lol

  • @josue.ortega
    @josue.ortega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I remember the Saxon family members in the campaign map wear a battle mask. Really cool detail, I think only the Vandals wore such a garment as well.

  • @Chaossoul87
    @Chaossoul87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I played Saxons, I mostly ended up using hordes of levy spearmen, keels, hunters, and the odd sea raider, and supported by a general.

  • @gustavoguti27
    @gustavoguti27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Limited units but you have shield wall + ranged bonus. Add flanking cavalry and you could easily obliterate all the factions around you and take a big chunk of western Rome early in game

  • @nybethobdilord6912
    @nybethobdilord6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Happy to see someone making content for one of my favorite factions in the series. Saxon's are a ton of fun especially with the Saxon Hearth Troops. One of the best infantry in the game.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does shield wall work? Extra defense?

    • @nybethobdilord6912
      @nybethobdilord6912 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NinjaSushi2 extra defense in the front and less likely to have units die from arrows but it'll make the units more vulnerable to flanking and

  • @imstride3872
    @imstride3872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just started saxon campaign thanks brp

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome, happy to help!

  • @pastorofmuppets9346
    @pastorofmuppets9346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hunters are surprisingly competent at melee, not much worse than levy spearmen. In a crisis you can use em fairly effectively as light shock infantry against weaker units

  • @Lichtenhammer
    @Lichtenhammer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hell yeah! I love Barbarian Invasion!

  • @NinjaSushi2
    @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still wonder what the reasoning was behind giving some factions tons of units and some factions almost none.

  • @Luckyheraclius89
    @Luckyheraclius89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had this glitch where my Saxon archers had infinite ammo and I would just sit back and grind the 10 stack enemy army with 2 units of archers

    • @thesacredlobo
      @thesacredlobo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you have arcade mode on?

    • @Luckyheraclius89
      @Luckyheraclius89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesacredlobo no but it was on mobile and I think it’s more buggy I play pc and mobile

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still can't believe they got this game to work on mobile. If you told me you could play this game on a cellphone years ago I tell you you're crazy.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Somehow my laptop doesn't always want to run this game smoothly but a cellphone or tablet can?

    • @BlandRoamer
      @BlandRoamer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NinjaSushi2it's a brave new world 😂

  • @imerorimeror9449
    @imerorimeror9449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wanted to play a Saxon campaign yesterday, and I found this... Good timing. RTW seems to still be played by many people.
    +1 subscriber, I love those kind of videos.
    Do you plan to make factions from others TW games ?

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks a lot man, glad you found it useful. I've made similar faction guides for Rome Total War base game and Medieval 2 Total War. I may make faction guides for other games in the future, but I am less familiar with the other games so I'm not sure

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lugotorix6173 lol same. All I ever play is Rome and Medieval 2.

  • @voluschpab4121
    @voluschpab4121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yesss i have been waiting for this one

  • @stephen7258
    @stephen7258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It’s weird, the mobile version includes all factions and they fixed some of their bugs

    • @gordonholon
      @gordonholon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What mobile version?

    • @fuchsbrudi3107
      @fuchsbrudi3107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gordonholon there's a tablet version for rtw

    • @-CrimsoN-
      @-CrimsoN- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. Including the Romano-British which can only be added with mods on the PC.

  • @ohhithere1542
    @ohhithere1542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow thanks! I followed ur tutorial for the early game, and now i end up getting 8k per turn. Thx!

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats great! Glad I could help :)

  • @aaronmalabed7973
    @aaronmalabed7973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saxons: the best faction and my number one favorite faction: sailing to England, attacking WRE from England is like attacking from the sky and raining down havoc all over the dying empire.

  • @icloptomlpporn4776
    @icloptomlpporn4776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the saxons.

  • @DaDunge
    @DaDunge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:30 NO IT's NOT! A mere splinter faction of the saxons went to britain meanwhile pretty much all of North Germany is saxon.

  • @buckwave7047
    @buckwave7047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Keep it up!

  • @TheSm1thers
    @TheSm1thers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The ultimate no nonsense faction

  • @TomatoFettuccini
    @TomatoFettuccini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate to disagree with Lugotorix but I have to on a couple of things here.
    The Levy Spearmen aren't a defensive unit at all; they're an offensive unit that has decent defense. Look at their stats: attack 7, missile 11, charge 4, defense 10. They also have light spears which gives them a bonus vs cavalry.
    Think of them as an oversized better-armed and armored skirmish unit that can hang in melee if need be.
    If you combine the level 3 barracks (and level 1 archery range) with a Sacred Circle of Ull, then retrain them in a town with a Sacred Circle of Wotan (this goes for archers, too) you end up with extremely potent ranged units quite early on (like Levy Spearmen and archers with 4 experience and gold/bronze missile attack/armour); 120 javvies will absolutely RUIN any unit's day. The shield wall formation just gives them a bit more defense but they are definitely NOT a defensive unit.
    The Saxon Keels on the other hand, are a defensive unit: attack 7 charge 4 defense 16. The Keels attack is the same as the Spearmen but the defense is much higher; put them in Shield Wall and that goes up higher.
    I suggest demolishing the Sacred Circle of Ull in Campus Saxones and replace it with one of Donar to give your units +2 morale, then pump out all your Keels, Axemen, Hearth Troops, and cavalry from here, then build Sacred Circles of Ull and Wotan in cities closer to your front so as you move your units from Vicus Saxones through Campi Chattii/Frisii and then to Augustae Treverorum/Vindelicorum, you can have most of your troops with 3 experience and at least bronze/bronze, with the increased morale bonus.
    Hunters are just broken under the Saxons (so are the Levy Spearmen). You can get Hunters to 4 Experience gold/bronze very early and just wreck opposing armies.
    The Saxon shrines are just ridiculous and they can make your armies very powerful very early.
    The Saxons are pretty darn potent.

  • @figzntreezfigueroa5664
    @figzntreezfigueroa5664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative, I subscribed a few videos back... will continue with the next faction and so on

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! More videos are coming soon

  • @lina99boatservices
    @lina99boatservices 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got rtw now I’m gonna get rtw bi like the content I’m gonna start a Saxon campaign

  • @BraydenLondon88
    @BraydenLondon88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I thought something like this was coming

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hope you enjoy!

    • @BraydenLondon88
      @BraydenLondon88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lugotorix6173 oh I love it I was trying to play them but would die as soon as I tried to fight the celts this should help thank you

    • @kevin06289
      @kevin06289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BraydenLondon88 should be hard to die as the saxons right? franks,saxons,and goths are like the 3 top barbarian factions. they have good late game troops. I think the saxons are not as competent as the franks but they are still strong

  • @mariosoto2588
    @mariosoto2588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This faction has been done by some people and it's a pretty good and fun camping, but if u where to start a lets play what faction would u choose?

    • @soldatnr444
      @soldatnr444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Franks and Alemanni are easier due to their very good infantry roster

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm not currently doing lets plays (livestreams instead), I would probably leave it to vote but I do enjoy playing as the Romans a lot, but to be honest I enjoy all the factions in this game

  • @johnirby8847
    @johnirby8847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A few basic saxon keel can beat the crap out of most higher tech infantry. Once you get chosen axemen you can take over western Europe.

  • @donvitocorleone7863
    @donvitocorleone7863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lugotorix So I decided to play as the Saxons in Barbarian Invasion Rome Total War and I am kinda a noob but in my other campaigns I have been pretty successful but I played the Saxons made a Army early on and invaded Britain but then early on the Romano British spawned as a horde and destroyed my British armies and settlements so now I am broke so I need help, Have any advice?

    • @SpaceMarine500
      @SpaceMarine500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I found it a better strategy to fight the Romans in continental Europe with the aim of raiding their large cities (population extermination) and then holding on to them. Better not do this right away either though. Wait several turns and use that time to build up a sufficient force and take rebel settlements. By the time you invade Roman territory with your forces, the Romans would be facing corruption and even rebellion.

    • @carl-os4603
      @carl-os4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Otto Von Litmarck stupid question but how exactly to sell/buy cities with 100% success?

  • @camerong3818
    @camerong3818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I need this right now! How'd you know?

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      haha I'm psychic :)

    • @camerong3818
      @camerong3818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lugotorix6173 spooky. Thanks for the video!

  • @nathanwilliams4954
    @nathanwilliams4954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Idk why, but I only enjoy the WRE in BI and no one else.

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think that WRE is definitely the most exciting faction, but I do enjoy the others as well

    • @flarek9686
      @flarek9686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I usually pick Franks because of their AP units and ofcourse - Badass Paladins.

  • @NKismynextgoal
    @NKismynextgoal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started a new session of TW:BI, because earlier tries didn't work out,but with the Saxon I got it right. I succeeded in crushing bit by bit the nomad armies of the Slavs and the Huns, and then continued to aim for the richer West Roman region (France and Spain). After a while their eastern brothers became another target, and that's the actual situation.
    Do de Roman states also get nomadic (Western Rome only has the city of Rome left due to a revolt when they still had Salamanca as a second hub)?

    • @diogol5987
      @diogol5987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No I dont think so

  • @thecrazytophatman7304
    @thecrazytophatman7304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    May I say if your going to play barbarian invasion don’t play the huns
    No Romans’ play either Saxons celts or franks.

  • @einfachlos1124
    @einfachlos1124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video really enjoyed it

  • @richardruiz2383
    @richardruiz2383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m at war with goths west romans and huns lmao

  • @aaronluisdelacruz4212
    @aaronluisdelacruz4212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make shogun 2 faction guides?

  • @shaddy5381
    @shaddy5381 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    assonance was the word you were looking for

  • @DaDunge
    @DaDunge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:00 But that's what the Saxons did, they stayed outside roman territory conquered their neighbour's land and forced them to migrate into the Roman empire.

  • @wrigglymule
    @wrigglymule 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your advice for the saxon is go Britain not South as you end up with a vertical empire yet with the franks you say go south to control Italy, why the difference?

  • @NinjaSushi2
    @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does shieldwall work? Can't find anything on the internet.

  • @deanmcintyre4334
    @deanmcintyre4334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game is still good

  • @kevin06289
    @kevin06289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the thing I don't like about barbarian invasion is that the shield wall formation is not that good, sometimes heavy cavalry can charge into my shield wall and get away pretty much unharmed. phalanx on the other hand, basically pierce through cavalry like paper.

    • @v1sion_unkowngaming777
      @v1sion_unkowngaming777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shield wall is to use against infantry or help a little, and I mean a little, with archer fire.

    • @kevin06289
      @kevin06289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@v1sion_unkowngaming777 when I first started playing the game, I thought testudo and shield wall units are completely immuned to archer fires🤣

    • @v1sion_unkowngaming777
      @v1sion_unkowngaming777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kevin Xu Testudo are practically immune to archer fire, especially low damage missiles, but a shield wall helps a little on the front, but still exposed to the sides and rear. Most cavalry should be able to penetrate either formation. Hope that clarifies a little more. Please someone correct me if I’m wrong lol

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shield-wall is great for a holding the enemy in place taking little damage while you flank around. It's a defensive maneuver not an offensive so don't be surprised if they don't do very much killing. You're meant to put your boys in the shield wall and then hit them from behind with the chosen axemen.

    • @Owlr4ider
      @Owlr4ider 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shield Wall was not meant to hold off cavalry, it was meant to hold off infantry. The main reason for its existence is the tendency of the 'barbarians' to be undisciplined, as is well represented in RTW with the 'can charge without orders' clause many of the 'barbarian' units have. Shield Wall was a way to force these infantry units to stay in formation by locking their shields and preventing anyone from leaving the battle line. Of course as an added bonus it made the line very strong and tough to break by opposing infantry forces, initially the Roman infantry but later also the likes of the Viking warriors, when it was used by the Anglo-Saxons against them.

  • @canecorsomolosser3294
    @canecorsomolosser3294 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    With Roxolani I did opposite in very hard. Instead of going to Sassanids, sacking sarmatians, till Greece completely sacked. Get my horde to Rome, with boat (Adrian sea), sacked till I came back to Constantinople. So I had a huge wallet and was so easy I didn't had to battle, only auto resolve 🤣.
    Main thing is: wait first couple of turns in beginning, upgrade my 3 horses and 2 Spearman, then left Roxolani campus. Watch where huns, sarmatians and vandals walking. If they are 1 or 2 turns further, then they will leave you. Just don't come to close to sarmatians in the west of you in first turns, avoid those hordes. Then trade rights with northern factions.

  • @meanmeng1950
    @meanmeng1950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @uncxrrect3868
    @uncxrrect3868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can U do barbarians next

  • @whatsittoya4590
    @whatsittoya4590 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a good corner

  • @executeorder6559
    @executeorder6559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got normal Rome total war I want to get that one more than napoleon

  • @izzycatzi3648
    @izzycatzi3648 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    U should do a goths guid

  • @toddhowardphillipslovecraf7301
    @toddhowardphillipslovecraf7301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot to mention that Saxon Sea Raiders will drink from skulls.

  • @paulmiller7838
    @paulmiller7838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uh yeah, horses can swim in real life.

  • @playaboutpatforms2709
    @playaboutpatforms2709 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did u get the berbers and lombards

    • @shorkan1000
      @shorkan1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can unlock every faction in the game files

  • @DaDunge
    @DaDunge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate that their goal is to go to England. only a small number of Saxons migrated to England. Most stayed in German where the dukes of Saxony became the kings of Germany and then the first dynasty of the holy roman empire.

  • @brettvogel8418
    @brettvogel8418 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you mean franks don't have much for cavalry? Paladins are great! I can tell you don't know enough about this game to make guides for every faction...

  • @slayer19978
    @slayer19978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeahhhh anglo saxons

  • @iamcleaver6854
    @iamcleaver6854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn, those vanilla maps are terrible. It could have had way more settlements

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what mods do you recommend

    • @iamcleaver6854
      @iamcleaver6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannibalburgers477 For barbarian invasions? I am not aware of any mods that does it. As for Rome TW itself, I highly recommend the mundus magnus map. It is very easy to implement into vanilla. Not only does it greatly increase settlement "density", it also stretches the map all the way to India

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iamcleaver6854 thx

    • @iamcleaver6854
      @iamcleaver6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannibalburgers477 Having googled it, it seems that you can download mundus magnus for barbarian invasions as well

    • @gabork5055
      @gabork5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It needs the Preston Garvey mod.

  • @ntfi8141
    @ntfi8141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make aguide for west roman

    • @lugotorix6173
      @lugotorix6173  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I definitely will very soon!

  • @slayer19978
    @slayer19978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anglo Saxon anglo saxon anglo saxon anglo saxon

    • @DaDunge
      @DaDunge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope the Anglosaxons are a different tribe, a splinter faction if you will. The main saxon people stayed in Germany and pretty much all of north Germany is actually saxon.