I dunno man I’m a Canucks fan too and I think this is some insane talk. I love the team we’ve built and the coaching staff. But you had career years from Hughes, Miller, Brock, Hronek. You expecting them to all just repeat that? Or do better? There HAS to be regression there. I honestly think it’s easy to see a world where Brock only scores 25. I love the Debrusk signing but you’re not pegging him for like 40 goals. I would expect Petey to bounce back some but again, you can’t have like 5 guys on career years and expect more from them all. I think we’re a playoff team for sure. Presidents trophy? I think that’s absolute madness. 99.5 being the o/u on points, I think is spot on. These guys all agreed to HAMMER the over. I’m thinking we’re like a 96-100 point team.
@BA-li5ur quinn Hughes is still young so I expect him to only keep building. Miller is buying into the system, boeser is feeling better and his wrist seems to be holding up well. I get being pessimistic but come on.
Was at the Canucks training camp these past few days and observed many positives! Gotta also say that Sherwood is by far the kindest NHL player I have ever met. The dude is incredibly considerate and interacted with many fans both inside and outside the arena!
I think Steve's assessment of the defensive depth is totally fair. Soucy and Myers staying healthy is pretty important for the team to maintain a solid rotation. I like their forward depth and the mix of players though.
Yeah, the defense is a little iffy. It's not just depth at the lower end, I'm particularly worried about the second pairing. Meyers and friends are pretty good in a third line role, but we've seen before where upping his minutes leads, and he isn't getting any younger (though the coaching change seemed to revive him a little). Ideally, Hughes and Hronek can stay together, so who moves the puck up the ice on the second line? Who is consistent enough to eat all those minutes? I hope to be proven wrong, but that's the biggest question mark imo. Even before the goaltending issues (after signing an extra guy) and whether Pettersson will bounce back.
We're not supposed to be taking these training camps as anything other than training camp lines... But they have Soucy-Desharnais lined up together, making sure that there's a stay at home dman and a puck mover on each line in the bottom 4. That is very strong.
God man it’s so nice to have a *genuinely* positive outlook going into this season. Not a “oh I think this year they might actually make the playoffs guys!” sort of deal, a “this team’s legitimately good” feeling. It’s been so damn long.
Canucks have the best player development program in the league. Zadorov was a depth defenceman and in 5 months Foote and Gonchar turned him into a top 4 D. Tocchet, Foote, Gonchar, the Sedin twins, Komisarek, Samuelson, Maholtra, they change players.
Zadorov just had more opportunity with the Canucks than he did on a deeper blueline in Calgary (before they traded everyone). If the Bruins give him the opportunity, he'll be a wrecking ball in his new division. Outside of goaltending, the Canucks had a terrible player development program until last season, where the only prospects developing well were in the US College system or Sweden.
2 words can only describe Canucks fans De-lusional Jim Rutherford painted lipstick on a pig and ya’ll planning a cup parade. Canucks feasted on the worst division in the league last season, 4 of the bottom 10 teams were in the Pacific, Edmonton had an horrendous start, Vegas was limping all year. If not for Boeser and Silovs in round 1… Nashville was by far the better Team. Best player development in the league!? So good they traded Podz away for a 4th Kuzmenko… too
Canucks with another great signing 1 year $875,000 for Lankinen. Definitely gonna help till Demko is back. It's good to hear he's making great progress healing!!!
The best upgrade on D the Canucks will make this year is actually having Soucy. He was injured for so much last year that it made guys like Cole and Zadorov more important that they shouldve been.
Outside of Demko’s health, my biggest concern is how well can Old man Myers hold up through regular season. Although we know 100% Allvin and JR will add as they always do
I hated myers but last season halfway through he improved enough that I will lay off him this year as long as he just doesn’t mess up alot I’ll be happy
Sure but it feels like every single coach has had Sprong as their pet project and nobody’s been able to fix him yet. That said, Tocchet’s just won the Jack Addams for a reason, if anyone can do it it’s him. He’s a tenured head coach now, unlike the last time he was with Sprong when he was on the Pens coaching staff.
@@am2500 one thing everyone always forgets, sweeney may be horrible with drafting…. But he has the best proscouts and judgment. Plz tell me what pro he has signed that hasn’t turned out to be a good signing.
@@brendancramphorn44 I don't think anybody is overly fond of the Charlie Coyle contract. Taylor Hall and Matt Grzelcyk's tenures kind of ended on sour notes. Oh, can't forget about Mike Reilly either
@emperoralvis6559 Pylons would be an upgrade on Mik and Laff. Debrusk is a career 24-25g player over a full 82. He'll see a nice jump in production. The real question is Petterson. He'll have no excuses this season.
They have 3 (THREE) legit NHL-caliber capable goalies. They no longer have goalie issues. The Oilers are still missing a legit NHL goalie. Skinner is so hit-and-miss.
After watching them in Penticton the Canucks have a bunch of forwards, their defense is huge and they can all move. They have a good manager. Smart not to re sign Lindholm and Zadorov for big cash while bringing in like 7 or 8 guys. Tochett is also a really good coach and get the team playing a good system. I wish Toronto had management and coaches like Vancouver lol.
Vincent Desharnais is underrated! His improvement from every year is eye opening, his speed and agility improved so much and Now he got a coach which would make him meaner and a nightmare to play against.
Kevin Lankinen signing is in the chat. 😂 You don't have to hide your 3rd goalies from waivers anymore. The defensive corps are monsters that will not make you want to play rough with Vancouver. DeBrusk will finally give Pettersson an elite player on his line. The Canucks attention to detail in depth signings was huge. Sprong is a guy who chips in on the 4th line against other 4th liners, who is going to have to work hard to keep out of Tocchet's doghouse, which is a storyline to watch. I definitely like Sherwood playing for the Canucks a lot more than against him.
@@J-jizzy_ given the aggressive moves by this new Canucks regime last season, you might see a lot of their business done before the trade deadline. I personally prefer this approach as it gives the players more time adjust to their new team and gives you the option of flipping them at the deadline if things don't work out.
@@gordonmacdowell8117 sorry I suppose the correct wording would be “by the deadline”. It often takes time to see what holes need filled prior to trades but you’re right; this new regime knows what they want relatively quickly!
Nucks have the best now goalie trio, along with the best forward depth in the league. Hughes going to be even better than last year... They gotta find a way to add a 2nd pair dman and they are set for another crazy year... Edmonton can only ride 2-3 players for so long..
Demko is obv super good but i think his health is a major factor for him now. Like 3 major injuries in the past 2 seasons? Out of all of the elite goalies in the league, his health concern has to be the highest.
Last year they founded a balance and this summer they added a few key pieces...If the goalie position works, we should not expect less than last year if not more ! Go get it Canucks ! I see you first of your division !!
Its hilarious this preview after last years preview. They havent even changed that much, just all the key players took important steps forward last year.
I hope we are able to keep a lot of these guys next year. I hope the turnover isnt too high. I really can see Debrusk and Heinen and Sherwood and Deharnais sticking around.
The Canucks showcased zadorov, he had a great playoffs and then signed big. If he didn’t look that great they could have had him cheap. Sucks but I wonder how good he is long term. Also wonder why he has been through so many teams
The canucks are going to be good. The forwards are probably the deepest in the league and are going to be a pain in the butt. Goaltending has me worried a bit. Doesnt seem like there is a clear awnser on Demko but the Lankinen signing will help. The real weakness is depth on D on the left side. Forbert and Soucy have both had their injuries. I worry they get hurt at the same time. Defence could another puck moving defenceman.
For SURE they will be going hard after top 4 D before the deadline, BUT they have a few decent pieces on their AHL team that won't look out of place in the lineup. Do you guys know about D-Petey? Elias Pettersson (20yr old, 6'4" 210 lbs) is looking NHL ready and reminds of a young Ohlund or Tanev. Here's hoping for an epic 2nd round vs the Oil.
@@bugscheese He could be an option if injuries plague the backend, but he should play a full year in Abby. Zero need to rush this guy. He's new to NA ice, and would much rather him develop properly so he can be a roster player in the next year or two. Could be looking at him and Willander as a pair.
Doubt we see EP26 play in the NHL this year, he should spend all of his time this year developing in the AHL, same with Lekkerimaki. We have other guys on the Abby Canucks we can rely on to call up in the big leagues if injuries happen.
Well. The oilers were one good third period away from a Stanley cup. If if’s and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas wouldn’t we?
The Canucks had 3 of their top players with well above their career average shooting percentages. As history shows majority of the time, the next year it will go right down back to the neighborhood of their average. I think most people don’t see that this alone will make the Canucks regress from last season
As a canucks Fan I think we are probably gonna finish second in the division and fight with Edmonton for first. However, the one thing you guys didn't talk about enough is the right side of defence. Outside of Hronek, this team is pretty thin. But I would say this team is 1 right-handed defenceman away from being maybe the best team in the league. But everyone in the league is looking for a solid right-handed defenceman. So it's gonna be interesting to see who this team will try and go out to get. I'm optimistic for this season.
@420camk he's pretty darn good IF his minutes are reasonable. If he has to play on the second pairing for an extended amount of time, he'll be exposed. We've been there before.
@@420camk Yeah Myers cant be playing top 4 minutes tho, we need him on the 3rd pairing so we limit his minutes and he doesnt get exposed. So the Canucks need a guy who can play top 4 minutes. Which is why I was hoping they coulda signed Tanev, because hes the perfect guy there.
@@IanStrain23328 doesn't even need to be pushed all the way to the 3rd pair he just has to share the load with another D-man. Kinda what Zadorav was in the regular season. He cant be a consistent 2nd pairing D-man on a cup-contending team.
Adding another higher end piece on the right side would definitely be everyone's first choice of a luxury item, but I say the depth there is at least serviceable
Us canucks fans wanted to keep Zadorov but I also think he is over paid a tad. Something like Myers new contract I'd be happy with. Our D core is still solid. It was our first playoff run with a crazy environment. Cuz you know when you're at work and someone's watching you get a little nervous.
There’s no doubt that last season was the first to feature a Canucks’ post-2020 playoff appearance but also that among Canadian NHL teams, following last postseason, the Canucks haven’t been the only such team to have signed one or more goalies who weren’t as of last season under contract to such teams, with the: - Flames having signed Devin Cooley to a 2-season US$1.55 million contract - Oilers having chosen to not give a qualifying offer to Ryan Fanti, but to instead sign Collin Delia (who during the respective most-and second-most-recent seasons had played under contract to the Jets [any regular-season game he had played having been with the Manitoba Moose of the AHL] and Canucks) - Jets having let Delia and Laurent Brossoit walk into free agency, having chosen to sign Eric Comrie and Kaapo Kähkönen to respective two- and one-season contracts
Mercer was pretty brutal last year because they kept forcing him to play center and any Devils fan will tell you he's really not a center. Injuries also destroyed the team so I'm pretty sure he had Chris Tierney and *insert AHL call up* on his wings for most of the season.
Canucks don't care if they win the division, conference or whatever. Last season taught them that the regular season means nothing. Same with home ice. Job 1 will be to make the playoffs, which they will but won't be a shoe in. The entire right side on D needs work, plus goaltending question marks even with the Lankinen signing. Job 2 will be to start the playoffs healthy and rested. They know the team peaked early last year. One thing no one is mentioning is special teams. The PK will improve, but they have to find a way to improve the PP. It's good, but with the talent they have, it should be elite.
I wouldn't be surprised if Danton Heinen sneaks into the top 6. He's a dark horse. Good 2 way player with speed who has scored 16-18 3 times in his career as a bottom 6 guy. If he fits into Tocchet's system, he could see more ice time. At the very least, he's depth scoring that you need.
As a Canucks fan from 2008, I have no expectations with this team lol, do I want them to win the Cup absolutely, do I think that will happen well any of the 32 teams could win it as of Sept 21 lol
I'm going to be the contrary person here. I really can't buy into the Canucks hype. The goaltending like everyone else said is an issue. Without Demko their season is already behind the 8 ball. I also think some luck played a role into their strong start which I see regressing a bit. They were one of the highest PDO teams in the league. With that said, I still think this team is very good, and should be a top 3 team in the division (given the transition and overall weakness of the division). I just dont see how their Stanley Cup Contenders with their question marks in net, right side of defense and their luck due to regress a smidgen. I could see them make it back to round 2
I expected a lot of Nay say and counting the canucks out. i have to say I'm super impressed with how Honest they all where. This is a Good team but again on paper and on ice are different things.
Canucks felled flat second half of the season Boeser walked keep sprong goaltending needs to rest bef the playoff we got speed Hienen sprong Debrusk powerfoward
Forbort and Desharnais is a perfectly respectable 3rd pair. Those guys aren't going to be asked to do more than they can so they aren't going to look like such fishes out of the water
Funny story: Vancouver's "first line" is also their hard-matchup line. Miller LOVES going up against the league's best. That freed up the supposed "third line" to go scoring. Gonna be an interesting year!
The Canucks have 4 scoring lines. They legit have 12 guys that can all put up 20+ goals a piece. This is the most stacked team I've ever seen... Not just Canucks, but NHL in general. Allvin and Rutherford have been worth the price of admission.
Demko Back 2025 canucks still have Benning core players lefted still retooling 98 points my prediction not going to win the Division Vegas Seattle canucks kings oilers missed the playoff
The canucks glaze is crazzzy. So many guys had career years last year, so we are just pencilling them in to do the same again? If EP is a top 10 player, I can see the over, but I think unless he carries there is no way.
“They except to win the cup” is crazy. so many things went right for them last year there will be a small regression this year. Demko not being healthy will take away 5-10 wins. Expect 100-104 points. oilers will be looking for blood in the head to head games bc of what happened last year. If they run into Nashville in the first round again it won’t be looking good. This roster is still quite inexperienced in the playoffs
@@TJJ-lj7wo Even if they play Silovs n Lankenin for the first month or two, That is still better than what the oilers are icing. Not a bad starting duo. Give demko all the time he needs. When he comes back then all of a sudden they have the best goalie depth in the league.
@@emperoralvis6559signed Lakonen right as this posted. We have goalie depth now! Lank silovs petera is absolutely deeeep while thather rehabs . Hopefully he cN find his groove later in the season and stay rested for playoffs. Either way this erased the bug question mark about goalie depth. Now the only realy comcern is d core depth which isnt awful but nit fantastic
97-102 pts. Sdnp is overrating the Canucks. The have many flaws, especially on defense. Top 5 offense, 15th defensively, no demko or silov hurts. Signing Lankinen may be their savior but they will regress from the unsustainable scoring they had last year. Their improvements just aren't enough to counter it. They also are nowhere close to Edm who's D ranks 4th, offense ranks 1st, goaltending is 10th (4th under knoblauch) 1st for specially teams. They have a 3rd RD issue and depth issue yet still rank this high is crazy. They go better on a team that prorated to 115 pts and did not do anything more than expected unlike Canucks who vastly outperformed expected.
@user-by3nd4rm6c silov had his first preseason game coming off ligament inflammation. He may be healthy, but there's still worry there. The defense on the other hand... you definitely misunderstand how mid Van defense is. Outside of Desharnais and Hughes, the rest are avg or below relative to their positional roles. Edm has 4 Dman above avg relative to their D role. Fight an analytic wall.
@@mathewpanchyshyn9623 Hronek is well above average, even Soucy is somewhat better than Average. Nurse has been average of late for the Oilers. I'd take Hughes over Bouchard, and Hronek over Ekholm any day of the week
@user-by3nd4rm6c based on what? Not GAR, not video analysis, not macro stats or micro stats. Hughes "may" have been the best Dman last year (i could strongly debate Bouchard was), hronek certainly didn't outperform Ekholm, nor did Soucy outperform Nurse. Not even close. I'm curious about what you could possibly be going off of. Not production. Not defensive play. Not much anything else, especially the example of Hronek over Ekholm. Ekholm was 7th in D 5v5 scoring, 2nd in xG% and xG± (only to Bouchard), and 5th in GF% (ahead of Bouchard, Hronek AND Hughes). Few dman last year was better all around than Ekholm. Hronek was strictly an offensive D carried by Hughes. He had awful numbers away from Hughes and other stars, unlike Ekholm and Bouchard.
Its hilarious watching the Media this year on the nucks, they are over correcting because they were all wrong last year. The nucks over achieved and they got worse, MUCH worse this year,the season literally depends on Demko, and even with him they will be fighting for 3rd in the pacific. Just the fact that Sprong is a top 6 on the nucks when hed be on the AHL roster on any contender shows how bad the media dead wrong lol
They got MUCH worse? How so? They didn't over pay on signing Lindholm and Zadorov. Picked up Debrusk and Heinen who will fit in nicely. Maybe it's just me because I just spent 2 days watching their training camp but they have alot of forward depth out on the ice.
Much worse is a crazy take. The Canucks at worst marginally improved. But this team in reality is significantly better than last year. Pettersson went from playing with Ilya Mikhelev and Sam Lafferty to Potentially Jake Debrusk and Daniel Sprong. That right there ignoring all the other adds makes this team better.
@@user-by3nd4rm6c because you think the nucks are actual contenders LOL I mean you took Vinny who got cut for the playoffs for your top 4 LOL. the nucks are a joke
Canucks should be a solid wildcard bet. Overrated AF last year beating up and collecting points from 4 of the bottom 10 teams in the league in Pacific division. ( sharks , Ducks , flames , Kraken) Edmonton’s slow start and Vegas limping all year. Wouldn’t be surprised 😮 if they missed playoffs 4 top 6 forwards 😵 2 top 4 D 👏 6 actual bottom 6 FWD’s 👍 6 bottom pair D 🤣 Goaltending is up in the air, Demko health, Silovs unproven over a full NHL season, scouts will have a book on him. Too many ifs for me. Good coach yes, Hughes is great even though his D partner isn’t the right guy, needs an Eckholm. Nashville should have beaten them in first round if only they had more scoring. Canucks played 5 games vs Edmonton no showed games 6+7 Can’t stand this team
Lmao you say the Canucks are collecting points against a weak division. The teams you listed are still bad. So wouldn’t it make sense if they did that again. That automatically leads to a playoff spot. Literally see you everywhere hating on our team all day. Go touch some grass
@@jayvyas1677 well we do have Hughes and hronek and the depth I like but yea we’re missing a #3 dman. Once we get one it’s gunna be real tough beating us
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never fails. Kevin Lankinen signs with canucks right after this goes up
He did too hahaha
Guess they gotta talk about the Canucks again 🤷♀️
Hahaha right
Allvin probably waited for the video to drop
Lol everytime...
Man it feels good to be a Canucks fan right now
No it doesn't ticket prices have priced the average fan out from being able to attend games this season.
@@BobSaxon-ou7wwmore fun at home.
@@BobSaxon-ou7wwbetter at home with beers
I dunno man I’m a Canucks fan too and I think this is some insane talk.
I love the team we’ve built and the coaching staff. But you had career years from Hughes, Miller, Brock, Hronek. You expecting them to all just repeat that? Or do better? There HAS to be regression there. I honestly think it’s easy to see a world where Brock only scores 25. I love the Debrusk signing but you’re not pegging him for like 40 goals. I would expect Petey to bounce back some but again, you can’t have like 5 guys on career years and expect more from them all.
I think we’re a playoff team for sure. Presidents trophy? I think that’s absolute madness.
99.5 being the o/u on points, I think is spot on. These guys all agreed to HAMMER the over. I’m thinking we’re like a 96-100 point team.
@BA-li5ur quinn Hughes is still young so I expect him to only keep building. Miller is buying into the system, boeser is feeling better and his wrist seems to be holding up well. I get being pessimistic but come on.
Was at the Canucks training camp these past few days and observed many positives! Gotta also say that Sherwood is by far the kindest NHL player I have ever met. The dude is incredibly considerate and interacted with many fans both inside and outside the arena!
That's good to hear. Love that.
Damn I gained a lot more respect for these guys after watching them praise the Canucks. Cheers!
Dang Lankinen literally signed before this went up😅😅
I think Steve's assessment of the defensive depth is totally fair. Soucy and Myers staying healthy is pretty important for the team to maintain a solid rotation. I like their forward depth and the mix of players though.
Yeah, the defense is a little iffy. It's not just depth at the lower end, I'm particularly worried about the second pairing. Meyers and friends are pretty good in a third line role, but we've seen before where upping his minutes leads, and he isn't getting any younger (though the coaching change seemed to revive him a little).
Ideally, Hughes and Hronek can stay together, so who moves the puck up the ice on the second line? Who is consistent enough to eat all those minutes? I hope to be proven wrong, but that's the biggest question mark imo. Even before the goaltending issues (after signing an extra guy) and whether Pettersson will bounce back.
We're not supposed to be taking these training camps as anything other than training camp lines... But they have Soucy-Desharnais lined up together, making sure that there's a stay at home dman and a puck mover on each line in the bottom 4. That is very strong.
2023/2024 devils vibe for them this year
@@brendancramphorn44 they actually have goaltending though… and they’re better at every single position than NJ was last year. Wtf are you on
@@leoguilhem4583 Demko injured to start this season……
God man it’s so nice to have a *genuinely* positive outlook going into this season. Not a “oh I think this year they might actually make the playoffs guys!” sort of deal, a “this team’s legitimately good” feeling. It’s been so damn long.
Canucks have the best player development program in the league. Zadorov was a depth defenceman and in 5 months Foote and Gonchar turned him into a top 4 D. Tocchet, Foote, Gonchar, the Sedin twins, Komisarek, Samuelson, Maholtra, they change players.
Lol
@@gabrielkrzysiak7497What’s so funny?
So the Canucks traded a 3rd & a 5th for a depth defenseman?
Zadorov just had more opportunity with the Canucks than he did on a deeper blueline in Calgary (before they traded everyone). If the Bruins give him the opportunity, he'll be a wrecking ball in his new division. Outside of goaltending, the Canucks had a terrible player development program until last season, where the only prospects developing well were in the US College system or Sweden.
2 words can only describe Canucks fans
De-lusional
Jim Rutherford painted lipstick on a pig and ya’ll planning a cup parade.
Canucks feasted on the worst division in the league last season, 4 of the bottom 10 teams were in the Pacific, Edmonton had an horrendous start, Vegas was limping all year.
If not for Boeser and Silovs in round 1… Nashville was by far the better Team.
Best player development in the league!?
So good they traded Podz away for a 4th
Kuzmenko… too
Canucks with another great signing 1 year $875,000 for Lankinen. Definitely gonna help till Demko is back. It's good to hear he's making great progress healing!!!
The best upgrade on D the Canucks will make this year is actually having Soucy. He was injured for so much last year that it made guys like Cole and Zadorov more important that they shouldve been.
Outside of Demko’s health, my biggest concern is how well can Old man Myers hold up through regular season. Although we know 100% Allvin and JR will add as they always do
At least 4 games more and he can retire
I hated myers but last season halfway through he improved enough that I will lay off him this year as long as he just doesn’t mess up alot I’ll be happy
@@revilogaming2305nah, he didn’t improve much. He’s always been decent just not 6m good. Also we saw in the playoffs, size matters more
The Canucks have a good roster and a good coaching staff. I think they make the second round again.
jessie is clueless about tocchet if he thinks sprong is not going to worry about playing d and just cheat up the ice and score goals... lol
tocch is tough and will bench ur ass if u don't play a 200 foot game. Ask Kuzmenko
You are right. But I think Sprong will be given a much longer leash than Kuz. Toch will find a balance.
You coulda just stopped at “Jesse is clueless” 😂
I like Jessie but he completely missed the whole Kuzmenko saga apparently. 😂
Sure but it feels like every single coach has had Sprong as their pet project and nobody’s been able to fix him yet.
That said, Tocchet’s just won the Jack Addams for a reason, if anyone can do it it’s him. He’s a tenured head coach now, unlike the last time he was with Sprong when he was on the Pens coaching staff.
Canucks are going to surprise a lot of people this year - again.
The Bruins and Canucks practically switched teams this year lol. Debrusk, Heinen, and Forbort for Lindholm and Zadorov
If it was a trade, bruins rocked them lol
@@brendancramphorn44Not when you consider the contracts.
@@am2500 one thing everyone always forgets, sweeney may be horrible with drafting…. But he has the best proscouts and judgment. Plz tell me what pro he has signed that hasn’t turned out to be a good signing.
@@brendancramphorn44 I don't think anybody is overly fond of the Charlie Coyle contract. Taylor Hall and Matt Grzelcyk's tenures kind of ended on sour notes. Oh, can't forget about Mike Reilly either
Nucks are legit Contenders
I’m impressed, some actual good takes here , great video!
im interested to see how well debrusk will do with the team.
If DeBrusk clicks with Pettersson, then the Canucks could have two 100-point centres this year.
Same here. But I’m also curious to see how DeBrusk would do with Miller and Boeser.
Debrusk will score 35 this season. 70ish points.
@@Xyy2387 even if it’s high twenties that’s much better than Ilya Mikheyev or Sam Lafferty.
@emperoralvis6559 Pylons would be an upgrade on Mik and Laff. Debrusk is a career 24-25g player over a full 82. He'll see a nice jump in production. The real question is Petterson. He'll have no excuses this season.
Canucks just signed lenkinen
They have 3 (THREE) legit NHL-caliber capable goalies. They no longer have goalie issues. The Oilers are still missing a legit NHL goalie. Skinner is so hit-and-miss.
@@MrPointmidget and they might lose skinner depending on cap situation
The Canucks need a top 4 d, preferably a right hander. Even if Demko isn't back anytime soon, Silovs and Lankinen can hold it down.
Great conversation about my Canucks.
I’m happy to hear soo many good things about the Canuck for once it’s about damn time been so many years
After watching them in Penticton the Canucks have a bunch of forwards, their defense is huge and they can all move. They have a good manager. Smart not to re sign Lindholm and Zadorov for big cash while bringing in like 7 or 8 guys. Tochett is also a really good coach and get the team playing a good system. I wish Toronto had management and coaches like Vancouver lol.
their defence is built more for playoffs.. just need to make it through the regular season.
Alright where are the conference videos?! 🔥🙏🏻
For guys out east, i actually think you had a pretty good assessment of the team out west. good stuff
Steve beung so neutral even though hes a diehard Leafs fan is soooo refreshing. Love Steve n I would love to watch a game with him
Vincent Desharnais is underrated! His improvement from every year is eye opening, his speed and agility improved so much and Now he got a coach which would make him meaner and a nightmare to play against.
Kevin Lankinen signing is in the chat. 😂 You don't have to hide your 3rd goalies from waivers anymore. The defensive corps are monsters that will not make you want to play rough with Vancouver. DeBrusk will finally give Pettersson an elite player on his line. The Canucks attention to detail in depth signings was huge. Sprong is a guy who chips in on the 4th line against other 4th liners, who is going to have to work hard to keep out of Tocchet's doghouse, which is a storyline to watch. I definitely like Sherwood playing for the Canucks a lot more than against him.
Just wait for the moves at the deadline 😳😳
@@J-jizzy_ given the aggressive moves by this new Canucks regime last season, you might see a lot of their business done before the trade deadline. I personally prefer this approach as it gives the players more time adjust to their new team and gives you the option of flipping them at the deadline if things don't work out.
@@gordonmacdowell8117 sorry I suppose the correct wording would be “by the deadline”. It often takes time to see what holes need filled prior to trades but you’re right; this new regime knows what they want relatively quickly!
Nucks have the best now goalie trio, along with the best forward depth in the league. Hughes going to be even better than last year... They gotta find a way to add a 2nd pair dman and they are set for another crazy year... Edmonton can only ride 2-3 players for so long..
You're going to need them.
Demko is obv super good but i think his health is a major factor for him now. Like 3 major injuries in the past 2 seasons? Out of all of the elite goalies in the league, his health concern has to be the highest.
Group of Leafs fans pumping the tires on the Canucks for 15 mins? Not sure which universe this is but I’m loving it!
Last year they founded a balance and this summer they added a few key pieces...If the goalie position works, we should not expect less than last year if not more ! Go get it Canucks ! I see you first of your division !!
Depth, depth, depth.
Its hilarious this preview after last years preview. They havent even changed that much, just all the key players took important steps forward last year.
3:24 that's why we love Steve 😂
I hope we are able to keep a lot of these guys next year. I hope the turnover isnt too high. I really can see Debrusk and Heinen and Sherwood and Deharnais sticking around.
The Canucks showcased zadorov, he had a great playoffs and then signed big. If he didn’t look that great they could have had him cheap. Sucks but I wonder how good he is long term. Also wonder why he has been through so many teams
Lol, that thumbnail is hilarious.
The canucks are going to be good.
The forwards are probably the deepest in the league and are going to be a pain in the butt.
Goaltending has me worried a bit. Doesnt seem like there is a clear awnser on Demko but the Lankinen signing will help.
The real weakness is depth on D on the left side. Forbert and Soucy have both had their injuries. I worry they get hurt at the same time. Defence could another puck moving defenceman.
For SURE they will be going hard after top 4 D before the deadline, BUT they have a few decent pieces on their AHL team that won't look out of place in the lineup. Do you guys know about D-Petey? Elias Pettersson (20yr old, 6'4" 210 lbs) is looking NHL ready and reminds of a young Ohlund or Tanev. Here's hoping for an epic 2nd round vs the Oil.
@@bugscheese He could be an option if injuries plague the backend, but he should play a full year in Abby. Zero need to rush this guy. He's new to NA ice, and would much rather him develop properly so he can be a roster player in the next year or two. Could be looking at him and Willander as a pair.
Doubt we see EP26 play in the NHL this year, he should spend all of his time this year developing in the AHL, same with Lekkerimaki. We have other guys on the Abby Canucks we can rely on to call up in the big leagues if injuries happen.
Petey. Is. Pumped. About his new linemates this year. Did you see him smiling at the Puck drop for the scrimmage?!? We haven't seen that in forever.
The Canucks were one poorly reffed game from beating the Oilers in five.
*one less goaltender injury
Well. The oilers were one good third period away from a Stanley cup. If if’s and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas wouldn’t we?
Dont even blame the refs. It was an evenly called series. If we had Demko, that series is over sooner.
The Canucks had 3 of their top players with well above their career average shooting percentages. As history shows majority of the time, the next year it will go right down back to the neighborhood of their average. I think most people don’t see that this alone will make the Canucks regress from last season
theyre one top 4 D and a healthy Demko away from being a cup contender, but I believe both of those can come throughout the season.
Sprong is the new Kuzmenko, at a fraction of the cost.
You’re not wrong. I just hope he doesn’t go on a skid and be bad defensively as well as not score.
@@emperoralvis6559 that’s the downside of any offence-only player. It’s analogous to being a DH in baseball.
I get the consternation, I would say that one thing Sprong has over Kuzmenko is speed
As a canucks Fan I think we are probably gonna finish second in the division and fight with Edmonton for first. However, the one thing you guys didn't talk about enough is the right side of defence. Outside of Hronek, this team is pretty thin. But I would say this team is 1 right-handed defenceman away from being maybe the best team in the league. But everyone in the league is looking for a solid right-handed defenceman. So it's gonna be interesting to see who this team will try and go out to get. I'm optimistic for this season.
@@jayvyas1677 Will be Huge if Myers can even just repeat what he did last year. I thought he was pretty damn good last year.
@420camk he's pretty darn good IF his minutes are reasonable. If he has to play on the second pairing for an extended amount of time, he'll be exposed. We've been there before.
@@420camk Yeah Myers cant be playing top 4 minutes tho, we need him on the 3rd pairing so we limit his minutes and he doesnt get exposed. So the Canucks need a guy who can play top 4 minutes. Which is why I was hoping they coulda signed Tanev, because hes the perfect guy there.
@@IanStrain23328 doesn't even need to be pushed all the way to the 3rd pair he just has to share the load with another D-man. Kinda what Zadorav was in the regular season. He cant be a consistent 2nd pairing D-man on a cup-contending team.
Adding another higher end piece on the right side would definitely be everyone's first choice of a luxury item, but I say the depth there is at least serviceable
Us canucks fans wanted to keep Zadorov but I also think he is over paid a tad. Something like Myers new contract I'd be happy with. Our D core is still solid. It was our first playoff run with a crazy environment. Cuz you know when you're at work and someone's watching you get a little nervous.
Compare what people said about this team just 4 years ago is so different now lol
There’s no doubt that last season was the first to feature a Canucks’ post-2020 playoff appearance but also that among Canadian NHL teams, following last postseason, the Canucks haven’t been the only such team to have signed one or more goalies who weren’t as of last season under contract to such teams, with the:
- Flames having signed Devin Cooley to a 2-season US$1.55 million contract
- Oilers having chosen to not give a qualifying offer to Ryan Fanti, but to instead sign Collin Delia (who during the respective most-and second-most-recent seasons had played under contract to the Jets [any regular-season game he had played having been with the Manitoba Moose of the AHL] and Canucks)
- Jets having let Delia and Laurent Brossoit walk into free agency, having chosen to sign Eric Comrie and Kaapo Kähkönen to respective two- and one-season contracts
Mercer was pretty brutal last year because they kept forcing him to play center and any Devils fan will tell you he's really not a center. Injuries also destroyed the team so I'm pretty sure he had Chris Tierney and *insert AHL call up* on his wings for most of the season.
Canucks don't care if they win the division, conference or whatever. Last season taught them that the regular season means nothing. Same with home ice. Job 1 will be to make the playoffs, which they will but won't be a shoe in. The entire right side on D needs work, plus goaltending question marks even with the Lankinen signing.
Job 2 will be to start the playoffs healthy and rested. They know the team peaked early last year. One thing no one is mentioning is special teams. The PK will improve, but they have to find a way to improve the PP. It's good, but with the talent they have, it should be elite.
You forgot to mention beating the Oilers
Hronek is a right-handed defenseman you know
@@user-by3nd4rm6c I'm aware. He needs work.
@@cowboywayne35 Not even worth mentioning. They know they let a lesser team steal it.
@@user-by3nd4rm6c I am aware. Hronek needs work.
Surprisingly, fair and optimistic evaluation from a Toronto biased/based podcast. I'm a little shocked.
Sdpn is like TSN but it doesn't suck.
Crisis averted guys 😂 Kevin Lankinen signed a 1 year $875k contract with the Canucks.
2nd in the pacific would be my guess and if they get by the Oilers in the playoffs will win the cup imo.
I wouldn't be surprised if Danton Heinen sneaks into the top 6. He's a dark horse. Good 2 way player with speed who has scored 16-18 3 times in his career as a bottom 6 guy. If he fits into Tocchet's system, he could see more ice time. At the very least, he's depth scoring that you need.
I think he's a lock to play with Miller and Boeser
Myers playing 18 minutes a night for 82+ games is worrisome.
Would love Rasmus Andersson on that blue line
That would be amazing
The PP needs to be more consistant! they blew several key 5-on-3 pp they blew during the playoffs .
Tyler Myers is not a top 4 D-man at this point in his career
Casual. He was excellent in a mid-six role last year, you're just repeating old takes.
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As a Canucks fan from 2008, I have no expectations with this team lol, do I want them to win the Cup absolutely, do I think that will happen well any of the 32 teams could win it as of Sept 21 lol
Any of the 32 teams? You high or something?
@@lastresort3188 Technically yeah, everyone has 0 points, so its possible not probable lol
@@MrC37 Technically I guess, but be realistic
Nice photoshop of JT's head on Bo Horvat's body on the cover art.
Canucks get 116 points this season.
111
The Stanley Cup is Vancouvers 100%
I mean, they're extremely stacked with depth this year. More than Vegas 2 seasons ago.
I'm going to be the contrary person here. I really can't buy into the Canucks hype.
The goaltending like everyone else said is an issue. Without Demko their season is already behind the 8 ball. I also think some luck played a role into their strong start which I see regressing a bit. They were one of the highest PDO teams in the league.
With that said, I still think this team is very good, and should be a top 3 team in the division (given the transition and overall weakness of the division). I just dont see how their Stanley Cup Contenders with their question marks in net, right side of defense and their luck due to regress a smidgen. I could see them make it back to round 2
Goaltending may not be spectacular without Demko in peak form, but it will definitely be serviceable
We not doing the alphabetical order this time?
Jesse may be on an island alone but its winners island!
Demko is fine making to much if goaltending
can you at least use the canucks logo from at least the past decade when showing it
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I expected a lot of Nay say and counting the canucks out.
i have to say I'm super impressed with how Honest they all where. This is a Good team but again on paper and on ice are different things.
I wish Hughes played in the East!
Why? You got two Hughes boys already in the east.
If Canucks make it to the Cup finals this season... they better win. Cuz nobody likes a 4 time Cup loser.
How many times has Buffalo lost in the cup finals?
Canucks felled flat second half of the season Boeser walked keep sprong goaltending needs to rest bef the playoff we got speed Hienen sprong Debrusk powerfoward
Their D past the top pairing is pretty not good
You think? It's basically last years defense minus Zadorov is it not?
So is your English
Forbort and Desharnais is a perfectly respectable 3rd pair. Those guys aren't going to be asked to do more than they can so they aren't going to look like such fishes out of the water
Funny story: Vancouver's "first line" is also their hard-matchup line. Miller LOVES going up against the league's best. That freed up the supposed "third line" to go scoring.
Gonna be an interesting year!
The Canucks have 4 scoring lines. They legit have 12 guys that can all put up 20+ goals a piece. This is the most stacked team I've ever seen... Not just Canucks, but NHL in general. Allvin and Rutherford have been worth the price of admission.
@@MrPointmidget - There's a serious fight for the 13th forward position this year. It's wild!
JT Miller is a pain in the ass? come on Toronto guys...
Steve, at least try to hide your animosity towards the western teams, try... please
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Demko Back 2025 canucks still have Benning core players lefted still retooling 98 points my prediction not going to win the Division Vegas Seattle canucks kings oilers missed the playoff
Another video where Dangle has zero clue what he is talking about. Canucks D is super deep and way better than Toronto ever will have.
I am a lifer Canucks fan and i disagree this Vancouver d is not deep ur nuts
@@atomicwonton4483 Agree it's not super deep, but it's still good
they’re gonna regress
Why?
Weak assessment, they only got better up front adding Debrusk Sprong Sherwood Heinan
The canucks glaze is crazzzy. So many guys had career years last year, so we are just pencilling them in to do the same again? If EP is a top 10 player, I can see the over, but I think unless he carries there is no way.
"only on the canucks can petterson be your second line center"😅 that's not even true in their own division
The Oilers would probably put Pettersson on the wing of Mcdavid or Draisaitl so technically there not wrong
If Petterson was on the Oilers he would be second line with Draisaitl on his wing.
@@jameson1239 the quote said him playing center
Overhyped team. Going to finish 5th in the division
We all know you're not talking about the Canucks
“They except to win the cup” is crazy. so many things went right for them last year there will be a small regression this year. Demko not being healthy will take away 5-10 wins. Expect 100-104 points. oilers will be looking for blood in the head to head games bc of what happened last year. If they run into Nashville in the first round again it won’t be looking good. This roster is still quite inexperienced in the playoffs
Hot take coming from a team with 3 or 4 major injuries and still almost won the West lol. Watch out
This is a team that is one right-handed defenceman away from being right there with Edmonton and Dallas for the best in the West
@@jayvyas1677and I think they’ll try to make a push for a RH Dman at the deadline
@@TJJ-lj7wo Even if they play Silovs n Lankenin for the first month or two, That is still better than what the oilers are icing. Not a bad starting duo. Give demko all the time he needs. When he comes back then all of a sudden they have the best goalie depth in the league.
@420camk, a healthy Demko is crucial for the Canucks. IMO from an Oiler fan.
If the leafs were in the shitty west they’d have a cup by now lol
just cover toronto you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the canucks.
Aged like milk
How?
@@emperoralvis6559signed Lakonen right as this posted. We have goalie depth now! Lank silovs petera is absolutely deeeep while thather rehabs . Hopefully he cN find his groove later in the season and stay rested for playoffs. Either way this erased the bug question mark about goalie depth. Now the only realy comcern is d core depth which isnt awful but nit fantastic
These guys should stick to covering the Leafs. Period
Adam actually knew what he was talking about.
97-102 pts. Sdnp is overrating the Canucks. The have many flaws, especially on defense. Top 5 offense, 15th defensively, no demko or silov hurts. Signing Lankinen may be their savior but they will regress from the unsustainable scoring they had last year. Their improvements just aren't enough to counter it.
They also are nowhere close to Edm who's D ranks 4th, offense ranks 1st, goaltending is 10th (4th under knoblauch) 1st for specially teams. They have a 3rd RD issue and depth issue yet still rank this high is crazy. They go better on a team that prorated to 115 pts and did not do anything more than expected unlike Canucks who vastly outperformed expected.
What a clown you are terrible take just say you don’t watch hockey oilers are overrated
Silovs is fine, what is this? Also, their defense is definitely above average. Edmonton's D looks much more average
@user-by3nd4rm6c silov had his first preseason game coming off ligament inflammation. He may be healthy, but there's still worry there. The defense on the other hand... you definitely misunderstand how mid Van defense is. Outside of Desharnais and Hughes, the rest are avg or below relative to their positional roles. Edm has 4 Dman above avg relative to their D role.
Fight an analytic wall.
@@mathewpanchyshyn9623 Hronek is well above average, even Soucy is somewhat better than Average. Nurse has been average of late for the Oilers. I'd take Hughes over Bouchard, and Hronek over Ekholm any day of the week
@user-by3nd4rm6c based on what? Not GAR, not video analysis, not macro stats or micro stats. Hughes "may" have been the best Dman last year (i could strongly debate Bouchard was), hronek certainly didn't outperform Ekholm, nor did Soucy outperform Nurse. Not even close.
I'm curious about what you could possibly be going off of. Not production. Not defensive play. Not much anything else, especially the example of Hronek over Ekholm. Ekholm was 7th in D 5v5 scoring, 2nd in xG% and xG± (only to Bouchard), and 5th in GF% (ahead of Bouchard, Hronek AND Hughes). Few dman last year was better all around than Ekholm. Hronek was strictly an offensive D carried by Hughes. He had awful numbers away from Hughes and other stars, unlike Ekholm and Bouchard.
The canucks are just like the leafs from past years have a series lead then choke game 7
Another day another low IQ Oilers fan take. 🙄
At least they won a round the first time back to a conventional playoff format after nearly a decade?
Its hilarious watching the Media this year on the nucks, they are over correcting because they were all wrong last year.
The nucks over achieved and they got worse, MUCH worse this year,the season literally depends on Demko, and even with him they will be fighting for 3rd in the pacific. Just the fact that Sprong is a top 6 on the nucks when hed be on the AHL roster on any contender shows how bad the media dead wrong lol
They got MUCH worse? How so? They didn't over pay on signing Lindholm and Zadorov. Picked up Debrusk and Heinen who will fit in nicely. Maybe it's just me because I just spent 2 days watching their training camp but they have alot of forward depth out on the ice.
Much worse is a crazy take. The Canucks at worst marginally improved. But this team in reality is significantly better than last year. Pettersson went from playing with Ilya Mikhelev and Sam Lafferty to Potentially Jake Debrusk and Daniel Sprong. That right there ignoring all the other adds makes this team better.
@@jayvyas1677 mentioning sprong, an AHLer at best just proves you have no clue what your talking about
@@jamess1021 If you think Sprong is AHL caliber, I don't know what to tell you
@@user-by3nd4rm6c because you think the nucks are actual contenders LOL I mean you took Vinny who got cut for the playoffs for your top 4 LOL. the nucks are a joke
I think it's a stretch that the Canucks pass the Oilers, Predators, or Avs this season.
They definitely got worse and I could see them falling out of the playoff race. Like they always do up one year down the next
You're talking about the Philadelphia Flyers of the last decade
Canucks should be a solid wildcard bet.
Overrated AF last year beating up and collecting points from 4 of the bottom 10 teams in the league in Pacific division. ( sharks , Ducks , flames , Kraken)
Edmonton’s slow start and Vegas limping all year.
Wouldn’t be surprised 😮 if they missed playoffs
4 top 6 forwards 😵
2 top 4 D 👏
6 actual bottom 6 FWD’s 👍
6 bottom pair D 🤣
Goaltending is up in the air, Demko health, Silovs unproven over a full NHL season, scouts will have a book on him.
Too many ifs for me.
Good coach yes, Hughes is great even though his D partner isn’t the right guy, needs an Eckholm.
Nashville should have beaten them in first round if only they had more scoring.
Canucks played 5 games vs Edmonton no showed games 6+7
Can’t stand this team
You can't stand this team and therefore you give the most possibly biased opinion you could 😂
Lmao you say the Canucks are collecting points against a weak division. The teams you listed are still bad. So wouldn’t it make sense if they did that again. That automatically leads to a playoff spot. Literally see you everywhere hating on our team all day. Go touch some grass
Canucks have probably the second-best forward core in the league. The top-end Dman I will give you Canucks lack there.
@@jayvyas1677 well we do have Hughes and hronek and the depth I like but yea we’re missing a #3 dman. Once we get one it’s gunna be real tough beating us
@@jackmaloney9936 Yah I commented on a different thread that this team is 1 top 4 Dman away from being maybe the best team in the league
07:54 "twin towers defense" is not the complement adam thinks it is
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