A Brief History of the Whig Party
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Here's the story of the rise and the fall (and the rise again) of the Whig Party.
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Man. This video lasted longer then the Whig party itself. LOL
The Whigs are the Republicans.
@@waleeworld To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
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I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
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@@waleeworld Not quite. After the Whig party split over slavery, 'Conscience' Whigs ended up joining the Republican Party (along with anti-slavery ex-Democrats) while 'Cotton' Whigs in the South eventually morphed into the Constitutional Union Party which was a party of 60 year men who basically wanted no secession, no abolition, no changes at all! The Constitutional Unionist Nominee for President John Bell won three really important swing states in 1860 (Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia) so they were not a joke. Abraham Lincoln was an old friend with Georgia whig Alexander Stephens, who resisted secession as long as he could but ended up a loyal Confederate. He was Vice-President to Jefferson Davis, in fact.
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Did you know that Whig leader Daniel webster was offered the position of VP for William Harrison and Zachary Taylor, but he didn't want it saying it had no responsibility, yet he would have become president if he had taken the positions.
Craziness
Webster would have become president after Harrison's death if he had intended to like Tyler did. Remember that there wasn't certainty about the situation of Tyler (if he was simply an acting president or the real president).
Harrison OK. But as Zachary Taylor's VP, Webster could have really caused a constitutional crisis since he died in 1852, some time before Taylor's term would have ended. The more rubust Millard Fillmore was able to endure the rest of Taylor's elected term.
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
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@@iammrbeat To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
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Henry Clay is a legend. Never got elected to be president though, couldn't help but cheer for him when learning American History.
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
Wallace Walrus Brake
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Ig you could compare Bernie Sanders and him, probably many others before him tho..
The Democrats Polked them in 1844, and Pierced them in 1848
Actually he Pierced them in 1852
Can't wait for democratic presidential candidate "William D. Pennetrate." I think he's Italian or something...>.>
Fuzzy Dunlop wouldn't be better if his name was Richard?
Julien Catalon They failed however, to Van Buren them, or to Cass them
They Pierced them in 1852. The Whigs won the presidency in 1848 with Zachary Taylor.
so let me get this right, a man like james buchanan became president but henry clay couldnt? oh america!!
James Buchanan at the time of his election was the most qualified person in American history of becoming president. He had a ton of high end Congressional and Executive jobs. No one expected him to be as bad as he ended up being.
Valentian is right. Buchanan has the best resume of any president. He served on both houses of the state legislature. Also on both houses of the US congress and as Secretary of State and ambassador to the UK. Who knew he would be such a weak president.
IKR.... That totally sucks...
The Rise (1834-1835) and Fall (1836) and Rise (1837-1843) and Fall (1844-1847) and Rise (1848-1851) and Fall (1852-1857) of the Whig Party.
The fall (1685) and rise (1689-1695) and fall (1698-1701) and rise (1701) and fall (1702) and rise (1705-1708) and fall (1710-1713) and rise (1715-1727) and fall (1734-1741) and rise (1747-1761) and fall (1768-1774) and rise (1780) and fall (1784) and rise (1790) and fall (1796-1801) and rise (1802-1806) and fall (1807-1818) and rise (1820) and fall (1826-1830) and rise (1831-1832) and fall (1835-1841) and rise (1847-1857) of the British Whig Party.
Sometimes I wonder what politics in America would look like if we listened to Washington and we just never had political parties to begin with
They wouldve happened regardless. There was no way to avoid them. Washington in that sense was an idealist. Despite being the only president to not have been sworn in as a member of a party, he did have strong ties to the Federalists
Even if people were not in official parties, people would still coalition around those of similar beliefs and be in certain groups with names. There just wouldn't be primaries or party organization as we know it.
The usa whould be better of with more parties
As much as many people would like it if we had no political parties, such an idea isn't realistic. In representative democracy, people with common political views will always organize and join forces with one another. It's just the nature of the system. You can't have representative democracy without political parties.
Creepy Closet you can avoid party’s it just that first past the post encourages factionalism
I wonder if the modern Whig party would accept a donation in a $20 bill.
Totally😁👌
Lol
Maybe if harriet Tubman is on it instead of Jackson.
From U.K. The British Whig Party was later renamed the Liberal Party. In the 18th century a branch of the Whig Party calling themselves Patriots came into conflict with the ruling Tory Party. This conflict spread to the colonies. An aspect of the American Revolutionary War that is often overlooked was the influence of British Patriots. Just as many colonists were Tories. Britain was not just at war with the colonists, France, Spain, Holland and India it was also at war with itself.
My home town of Rotherham Yorkshire was Patriot. On a hill overlooking the town stands a monument to the Boston Tea Party called Boston Castle. The building was paid for by Whig member of Parliament and soldier Thomas Earl of Effingham. Counties in Georgia and Illinois were named for Effingham. Founding Father Benjamin Franklin visited the town before the war and later Thomas Paine came and helped design an iron bridge. Local men refused to go to America and fight fellow Patriots. American tourists to Britain are often surprised to see statues to American Patriots such as George Washington.
John Willetts monument to the Boston Tea Party in England? Fascinating... I’ll have to tell my Boston born wife that one! Nice recap from ‘The other side of the pond’ .... 2 countries separated by a common language..
People need to focus less on the party name and more on the issues the party represents at the time
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
Wallace Walrus Brake
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@@MrOneofthecriq GOOD ONE LOL
You teach me so much I wish I had learned in high school or college American history courses, some 50 years ago when I was a student. A commendable job you do with all these videos. Sorry that it took me this long to view this video, both from the time you made it years ago and from the time I should have learned stuff like this back when I was 18.
I wish they’d teach as much now as they did when I went to school. My children aren’t learning much about American history. It makes me sad. Mr. Beat is a great resource for those wanting to know more.
W.I.N.O. really got me
I'm not sure if it was intended but the contrast between the voice and the music has a great comedic affect
and the info is pretty great too, too the point:)
8happyperson I never realized that. Thanks for the great comment and for watching. :D
I can add that to my list, but it might be awhile before I will be able to produce it.
I've always like that about these videos, it adds a dry humor to everything like Tim & Eric or something.
Lol Tyler was a WINO and didn't even drink.
I lol'ed at that part!
1:24 Henry Clay ran on the National Republican ticket in 1832, although it was the Whig ticket in all but name.
Very informative yet concise. Good job, Mr. Beat!
MIllard Filmore looked like alec baldwin
William Henry Harrison looks like Mr. Beat with dyed hair and glasses off.
Thought the SAAAME hahaha!!!
0:59 Andy Jackson looked like James Woods
I honestly wouldn't mind the whig party to come back, they could be a nice mediation from this tense 2 party system
Personally, I'd prefer for the Libertarians to become a viable 3rd party. I could easily see myself mostly dividing my votes between Republicans and Libertarians in that scenario. It would've been especially useful during the 2016 and 2020 (if Trump still won in 2016) Presidential Elections.
@@Compucles 🤣😂 if we're talking true Libertarians, like being Pro Choice, among other things, yeah, they'd have a shot, tho I'd personally refer independents.
Libertarians running as Republicans, like Rand Paul, can never truly be themselves. They aren't, really, that close in beliefs.
Did… Did Mr. Beat just say Compromise of 1850 without singing it?
I really like that music!
Washington was right, political parties lead to division. We should have listened to him.
More like, division leads to political parties.
Sam Bradley But how could we have democracy without parties?
There were political "parties", more like camps, in Washington's day; they just had not become formalized as they are today. In Washington's day you at least had a big division between anglophiles and francophiles. This had much to do with both foreign and domestic policy applications. This is covered quite a bit in Chernow's "Alexander Hamilton".
Gablesman888 formal political parties started around the time Washington was in office. The original parties were the Federalist Party, led by Alexander Hamilton, and the Democratic-Republican Party, led by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. I believe the Federalists were more in favor of a stronger, centralized federal government, while the Democratic-Republicans wanted a much smaller federal government. Political parties didn’t exist when Washington was first elected, but of course there were still political divisions. According to Mr. Beat in his Election of 1788-89 video, the main factions were the federalists (those in favor of the new constitution ) and the anti federalists (those who were against the new constitution because they thought it gave the federal government too much power).
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 Yes, my comments were directed to the very beginning of Washington's tenure. I am trying to work at home during the viral "house arrest" and talk to intelligent guys like you at the same time. My bad.
Music is way too loud. Hard to hear at times.
Thank you! I agree.
Music is really annoying.
They need to have a remake of the Whig Party
I hope you know how much I appreciate your videos 🙏❤️
Wow Henry Clay must've felt like such a failure I can't even imagine...
1:14 - Young Henry Clay looks kinda like Mr. Beat.
Music too loud
wow...thanks for a simple informative almost funny but accurate explanation of the Whig Party. I shall use this in 11th grade US history class tomorrow. I will be checking out your other videos soon. Thank You.
Hey Joe, thank YOU. Thanks for watching and sharing. I love how you wrote "informative almost funny but accurate." :) Yeah, I have quite a few US history videos- in fact, my whole "Story Time" series is US history stuff. Thanks again. -Matt
How do you know it’s accurate? You’re only 8n 11th grade...
Research, I guess?
I miss the old Whig party
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
Wallace Walrus Brake
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Oh man, that music is amazing
"Whigs would be considered Liberal by today's standard." I don't know, to me, it sounded like he was describing Conservatives.
They indeed were conservatives by and large. It had several factions but two dominant ones. The Conscience Whigs which represented the interests of northern industry and the Cotton Whigs which represented the interests of Southern planters. Both were conservative wings albeit shaped by the regions they came out of. The Jacksonian Democrats were still the liberal party at that time if we take into account they worked to appeal hardest to the common man in the form of farmers, laborers and immigrants. There was a massive shake up after the Age of Jackson into the Civil War Era that really confuses the issue.
Yes and no. The fault lines differ. Whigs were liberal in today's terms in the sense they liked involving the federal government to develop the economy, and if you look at the history of prohibition, it was actually the progressives who did it.
On the other hand their enthusiasm for the market economy in general could never be mistaken as liberal, and contra the idea that the Republican and Democratic parties "switched" in the 60s, the Democrats were suspicious of markets even then, as they believed it would render equal men unequal and make the rich richer by making the poor poorer.
@Sven M The problem is that within the history of the Anglosphere when Classical Liberalism was a dominant idea the mainstream Left actually advocated for a more limited government because they feared its exertion would lead to the further entrenching of the elites, particularly before the system had been democratized to include non-landowners. Case in point when looking at British history would you refer to Benjamin Disraeli’s Tories as being to the left of his rival William Gladstone and the Liberal Party? Government intervention to increase national efficiency, stability and power in a world with potential rivals rather than fight an internal class war through the political apparatus was a common position held by by right-wing parties on those days. It wasn’t until the industrial boom that you saw the mainline Left in the Anglosphere seek to expand government power until the industrial boom when they came to the conclusion that government power was necessary to curb corporate power and were more willing to trust in robust exercise of the government after it had been democratized more by that point. That’s when “Modern Liberalism” eventually overtook Classical Liberalism.
@@johnweber4577 You're basically right. Jacksonian Democrats did indeed accuse Whigs of combining government power with commercial and industrial interests to the detriment of the common man. I'd contend Tammany Hall and similar Democrat machines weren't exactly free market themselves, but yes there's a shift in willingness to use central government, though I contend a constancy in suspicion of market economies themselves.
I forgot the name of it but there's a political theory where it states that what is considered center left and right shifts both ways congruently over time. The fringes of today could have been normal before or so out there it wasn't in public consciousness. Today we've shifted so far left, that what was considered left only 8-12 years ago is considered right or even far right today. People are complaining that Obama is too right wing to be a democrat when he was pretty left to begin with. Trump who is largely left on many issues is now considered a fascist. Not trying to argue politics. Just stating that the scale of what is considered center left and right is very skewed left. Founding fathers would be considered so fringe right that they would be labeled anarcho-capitalists if they were in office today.
Wait, didn't Henry Clay run as a National Republican? The party that sort of formed after Jackson entered the picture and defeated John Quincy Adams? The Whig Party's first performance was when they ran against Martin Van Buren.
You should do a video on all the current parties even 3rd it would be very interesting
Yea Bring back the Wig Party.
ScootZMedia There is a Modern Whig Party you know? It's called the Modern... Whig... Party.................
Samuel Young Probably true. It would be interesting to see another Whig guy in office.
True Whigs only come around when needed, Whigs are a reform group, they pop up many times throughout history, we are the people willing to make the hard compromises, when party politics stalls, we come and kick it in the rear
Samuel Young: You're right. And that's for a number of reasons, but one of the biggest ones is that the people behind it are more like fantasy football people than people who understand politics. Their lack of skills is glaring.
The modern whig parties platform sounds like a bunch of snobbish aholes with no real solutions
Now we have the “ Wigged out Party” !?!?!?
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
Wallace Walrus Brake
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Brandon Brake what?
Lol that isn’t Millard Filmore that’s Alec Baldwin in a black and white photo. Don’t lie to me Mr Beat.
It is true that the Whigs and Jacksonian Democrats don’t exactly match up with the modern understanding of what conservatism and liberalism are. And neither was ideologically monolithic in its make-up. At root, they mixed what perhaps many might find to be somewhat counterintuitive beliefs. But they were in ways that still feel resonant all this time later. Howard Ashworth described their competition as, “a clash of democracy with capitalism”. The Democrats being identified with democracy as they of course claimed the mantle of fighting for the “common man” while the Whigs were linked to capitalism as exhibited by their affirmation that they lived in, “a country of self-made men”. Andrew Jackson accused his enemies of representing “associated wealth” and a “corrupt aristocracy” while the Whigs branded him a “demagogue” and “King Andrew”. The Whigs weren’t anti-democratic, it was pretty much impossible to be at that point anyway, but they were resistant to the mass populist mobilization unleashed by the Democrats. Neither were they on board with the more radical stances taken by the Jacksonians such as a call to abolish the electoral college and making Supreme Court justices popularly elected positions.
And yet, while they defended business from class agitation, the Whigs were also critical of the notion of individualism which was glorified by the Jacksonians and were adamant that people’s animal impulses were subordinated by practicing self-control and focusing on duty to an organic society with a distinct cultural heritage. Daniel Walker Howe compared it to classical Aristotelian ideas of human nature. Most of their social and moral reforms, including Sunday blue laws and temperance, were to the end of promoting those values. As James Reichley noted, the Whigs themselves adopted the word “conservative” which they connected with, “‘law and order’, social caution, and moral restraint”. And while the Democrats placed a heavy emphasis on individualism, as listed among the core concepts underlying Jacksonian Democracy by William S. Belko, they put, “the welfare of the community over the individual”. The Whig fusion of individual enterprise and civic responsibility is fundamentally a very conservative formulation while that of collective action and personal freedom as developed by the Democrats is quite a liberal one even if imperfectly applied. Arguably, they do remain recognizable today.
The Modern Whig party officially dissolved in 2019. Only 11 years, too short indeed.
Just listened to a 2010 biography of Henry Clay which was very illuminating indeed!
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
Wallace Walrus Brake
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As near as I can tell, 1844 was Henry Clay's fourth run at the Presidency, after 1824, 1832 and 1840, not his fifth. He also ran in 1848. If he'd lived through 1852 he would probably have run then.
Mr Beat, nicely done. Thank you. .... a modern.........
Thanks for watching! :D
"what is groovy" Dumbledore said calmly
It's an oversimplification to say that the British Whigs were "anti-king" (1:48). They supported the supremacy of parliament. American Whigs took the name because they argued that the president should defer to Congress.
Very informative. Thank you very much. Next time, please leave out the background music.
Noooooo
I like the music on this one.
Whigs against the Imperial Presidency
Posted by Shawn Martin 42wp on January 17, 2018 ·
American Whigs have always had a difficult relationship with the office of the president. In part, this is probably because they started off against a particular “imperial president,” Andrew Jackson.
If one looks at past Whig presidents, however, the list is short and far from illustrious. Despite the shortcomings of these individuals, the Whigs have left a lasting constitutional approach to the presidency that continued at least until the time of Republican president William Howard Taft. After leaving office and becoming a law professor at Yale in 1915, Taft wrote a book called Our Chief Magistrate and his Powers, in which he laid out what has become known as the strict constructionist or “Whig” theory of the presidency.
In part, Taft was arguing against some of the excesses of Theodore Roosevelt who, in the election of 1912, ran for an unprecedented third term as president. In what has become known as the stewardship theory of the presidency, Roosevelt was reflecting a viewpoint that the chief executive is limited only by what the Constitution strictly prohibits; otherwise, the president is free to act as he or she sees fit in order to advance the interests of the American people. Taft on the other hand reflected a much longer tradition within American history, and especially within the Republican Party after the Civil War. In Taft’s interpretation of the Executive Office, he claims: “
The true view of the Executive functions is, as I conceive it, that the President can exercise no power which cannot be fairly and reasonably traced to some specific grant of power or justly implied and included within such express grant as proper and necessary to its exercise. Such specific grant must be either in the Federal Constitution or in an act of Congress passed in pursuance thereof.”
In other words, the presidency is limited only to the powers that the Constitution provides the office.
One might argue that since Theodore Roosevelt, presidents have subscribed heavily to the stewardship theory. In fact one might even go so far as to suggest that the majority of modern presidents could be called an imperial president who has taken on too much power. Commentators from both the left and the right have contended that Franklin Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and culminating in Donald Trump have done exactly that. Perhaps being an imperial president is now no longer the exception, but the norm. Taft summarized the dangers of the stewardship theory and the presidents such a model could produce by saying: “
The mainspring of such a view is that the Executive is charged with responsibility for the welfare of all the people in a general way, that he is to play the part of a Universal Providence and set all things right, and that anything that in his judgment will help the people he aught to do, unless he is expressly forbidden not to do it. The wide field of action that this would give to the Executive one can hardly limit.”
To put Taft's statement another way, by allowing presidents to gain too much power, there is a very real danger of presidential tyranny. From a Whig viewpoint which that stands ardently against tyranny of any kind, it is important to fight against any potential for a president to become too powerful. Fortunately there is a solution to the problem, which is to make sure that the true voice of the people, Congress, functions properly.
It is up to Whigs to fight the imperial presidency and to make our the people’s voice in Congress work again. The tenth amendment to the Constitution states that “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
It is time for Whigs to take back the powers usurped by the imperial presidency and give them back to the legislative branch where they belong. It is time to resurrect Taft’s theories on executive powers and to ensure that every government official “exercise no power which cannot be fairly and reasonably traced to some specific grant of power or justly implied and included within such express grant as proper and necessary to its exercise.”
The Modern Whigs are dedicated to giving power back to the people, through having true representatives in the peoples' House and Senate.
That Wino diss was savage 😂
If you like it than you shoulda put a Whig on it
+abcdefg Is that a real parody? If not, it should be.
Mr. Beat I just came up with the joke, but the party was prominent in the 1840s and the song is from 2008, so somebody might have already thought about it
The term actually comes from the name Whigamore (or Whigamores), in Scotland actually what means Cattle Driver, who'd drive to Leith for corn actually, the Whigs were against (by principle) absolute monarchy and rather what is termed a constitutional monarchy (what we have now) and even with the likes of Sir Robert Walpole the first defacto PM (Prime Minister, as previously they'd used the term more as an insult to the position of the 1st Lord of the Treasury, which it's still termed that but not publically much since after a PM's premiership they're often given a Life Peerage, take Thatcher and Major as prime examples of that) he paved the way for what it's largely about now between Monarchy and Parliament. As it goes:
"Walpole was one of the greatest politicians in British history. He played a significant role in sustaining the Whig party, safeguarding the Hanoverian succession, and defending the principles of the Glorious Revolution (1688) ... He established a stable political supremacy for the Whig party and taught succeeding ministers how best to establish an effective working relationship between Crown and Parliament.[6]" Why there is a portrait of him behind the PM's chair in the cabinet room within No 10, as he was also the first to live there.
Later they formed into what became known as the Liberals (centrism again) who later merged with the Socialist Democrats (SDP), then now have become the Liberal Democrats in the 1980s and as they are now is how they formed or merged from rather, becoming far more a Socialist side of actually centrism, which is what the real definition of being Liberally Democratic is all about (it just depends on how one implements such a term, can be rightist or centrist or be it leftists, personally I am staunched against unfiltered socialist and the same in the opposite side, as neither have worked for the good of the people evidently (here anyway)). Robert Walpole being our longest ever serving PM, a total of 20 approx years (or at least 20 years as Prime Minister).
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Michael Duke It's been two years, mate, I barely even remember what the thing was about 🙂
The local newspaper of Cecil County, Maryland, is still The Cecil Whig.
Good summary. The soundtrack was groovy. A little too loud because it competed with the dialogue, but definitely groovy.
Thanks Joe. I have so totally gotten better at mixing the music and narration since 2014.
I really learned a lot from this video! My goal was to figure out why the Republicans split from them, and you did well explaining it.
They should bring the Whig Party back
President Hayes, by ending Reconstruction, made a deeply calculated long range move to attract the Southern Whigs to the GOP. Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, and Eisenhower would reap the first benefits. In 1964, there was a realignment where the South finally went Solid Republican from the still hot embers of the Southern Whigs.
That dang WINO Tyler
One definition of whig that I saw was a philosophy of belief in the advancement of mankind over reactionary forces.
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
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"they would only divide the country"
2021: WELL NO SHIT!
5:22 There is the boss.
I wonder how the Modern Whig party is doing now? Relatively speaking.
2020 here and we kinda want some new parties.
I think most people would say they don't recognize the Dem Party today, but it looks the same to me.
@@earlofmar7987 I'd say you'd be lying but yea they are still racist
@@achannel6664 How am I lying? The Whig Party wanted to remain loyal to the Crown. The Crown wanted to turn the Colonies into Slaves.....or slavery to their high taxes.
Earl of Mar 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️
Haaa. You didn’t get the joke.
Luckily we have President Trump, who is neither Democratic nor Republican.
The very best history of the American Whig party is found in Michael Holt's appropriately named "The Rise and Fall of the American Whig Party" published by Oxford.
Bonus! Bonus! This is also one of the very best books you will read written about the real causes of the Civil War. And it is a great work on just how American politics transformed from the days of the Founders until now. But you will have to be dedicated to read this 985 page work. Fun fact: Holt took longer to write this book than the Whig party lasted. And he explains why.
The music is a distraction. This is an instructional lesson. The music is not beneficial for learning..
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Thank you. I've been wondering for years if they wore wigs.
Wow! I think I might like this better than the Election Series!
Heck yeah. I have a lot of Story Time videos. th-cam.com/play/PLHtE7NbaKReeAyQdx4JRf90L4btSkOCI0.html
0:04 You look great in that wig. You forgot to mention that John Tyler was the first president to have his vetos overwritten by Congress and the first to face impeachment charges without getting impeached
I think The Whig Party might come back, The Republican Party pretty much succeeded the Whig Party, & many of their original members were once Whigs.
To All of my family and friends,
Thank you:
In this, the final hour of June: 2020, I want to thank you all for the discussion, for the ideas, for sharing your personal and unique perspective(s). I love you all, I appreciate you all, I'm a dog and that's what we do. We love everyone, all of us. We bark and we protect, but we wag our tails and slobber, too. Just feed, pet, and pick up after us. Love us and we love you right back. Our lives are short and precious.
I've been deep diving into the rabbit hole of this issue (RIP) and the BEST advise I can give is to stay positive. Any and every form of socially mediated attention is a positive; in that you're giving your thoughts and feelings to it. Giving your time to it. Thank you. It means a lot.
The Police Department, The Military, The Senate, The House, The Education System, and other public organizations and institutions still need "good apples". Always. With America, we really do have something great; but, it can ALWAYS be made better.
Thank you for continuing to sharpen America with your friction, thank you for continuing to teach America with your words, thank you for continuing to grow America with your support.
With the remainder of my time in June: 2020, I'm going to Nominate (probably not expecting), provide information in support of, and campaign for my write-in (not that it's anyone's business who I vote for, but I do plan on exercising my right to vote): "Whig Party" President in 2020. Stanley Kirk Burrell from East Oakland, CA. Positive. #2020itsliterallyHammerTime #Whigs #NaturallyandBeautifullyBalding
Love,
Wallace Walrus Brake
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Another video where your background music is annoyingly loud.
Very relevant, considering that the Democrats are about to become the new Whigs (or the ex-Democrats, depending on your point of view).
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How do you do fellow kids?
I love the portraits
short version: the whig party only had people with wigs
After losing the election, Lewis Cass would go on to star in Throw Momma From the Train
10 years wow
I love you Mr Beat
it seems history is repeating. The names probably wont change but the parties are fracturing over core issues. this is not meant as a political comment in any way, just an observation.
Great music to whig out to
Tyler, too!
beat has a sick tie🤙🏼
Good job. I enjoyed the video
they all look very confident
How
@@weareallone8442 Overconfident
@@mygills3050 how
Mr.Beat,I love your well researched and well done channel! The Whigs seemed to have come out of nowhere; were their original members in another party before breaking off? Also,why didn't Poke run for a second term?
Many of them were former Democratic Republicans. But really, their hatred of Jackson united them. Polk didn't run for a second term I think largely to prove a point that he didn't need 8 years to get his agenda done, but also to not have the distraction of a re-election looming over him as he tried to get stuff done. And get stuff done he did! Thanks for the kind words, btw!
Mr. Beat Thanks,it's great that you reply! To my knowledge Polk fell ill and died just 3 yrs.after he stepped down.Perhaps he had health problems that influenced his not running again(?). All the best.
Mr. Beat Perhaps you could do a clip on the debate between the "originalists" like Scalia,and the" living constitution", supporters like Breyer and Ginsburg? I think that it is essential to understanding how the S.C. relates to cases brought to them.
@@neilhasid3407 it was 3 months after he ended his presidency, not 3 years
Initially the Party formed from a mixture of anti-Jackson elements: members of the short lived National Republican Party (technically Clay's party in 1832), disaffected 'Conservative' Democrats, Southern Nullifiers, former Federalists, and "Anti-Masons" (a party which eventually merged into the Whigs).
He should do more of these!
How much was US Whig party linked to the Whig party in the UK at the time.
It wasn't directly linked to it. But they took the name from the Whigs as a jab at Jackson. As the Whigs had become known as the political faction that opposed the tyranny of the king, the implication was that Jackson was a would be tyrant that they were fighting given his more robust view on the role of the president. Though I’m fairly certain the British Whigs had given way to the Liberal Party by that point.
Lincoln was a Whig I didn't know that
I don't know about anybody else, but, Alex Baldwin can play Millard Fillmore should they do a movie 📽️ about him. He looks so much like him, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Fillmore is Baldwin's ancestor
Yeah but why would anyone make a movie about Millard Fillmore?
That... is a good question
The whigs were not liberals. At the time, the whigs and Republicans were the more pro business Conservative party at the time. Intervention in the economy also known as economic nationalism was actually a right wing idea made to protect business and establish banks. Democrats were the liberal party at the time, who opposed economic protectionism and nationalism and banks. It was Classical conservatism (whigs and republicans) vs classical liberalism (democrats). They have always been right wing and left wing respectively. The democrats evolved from the left wing democratic republicans and the whigs evolved from the right wing federalist.
It’s not even just the economic dimension either. The Whigs were also the party associated with religious moralism given their ties of the Second Great Awakening, similar to the later Republican alliance with the Moral Majority, and by extension causes like the temperance movement in order to uphold public morality. And they also were the ones who were skeptical of mass immigration at the time, mostly being European Catholics from countries such as Ireland and Germany in those days, which the Democrats then as now embraced. Their rank-and-file got so impatient about it that they were the ones to leave and become the bedrock of the nativist Native American Party, better known as Know Nothings, in a bid to defend their traditional Protestant way of life. I’ll also add that one of their big criticisms of the Jacksonians was the belief that they unnecessarily stoked class resentments against the wealth creators of society which they extolled as a country of self-made men. What populism they did engage in was rallied against the Democrats whom they framed as being just a new class of out-of-touch professional politicians simply trying to hold office and establish an executive tyranny. That, regardless of whether or not it is completely fair or accurate, sounds way more along the lines of something a Reaganite would claim as opposed to, say, a New Dealer. The Whigs were pretty clearly a conservative party when you tally things up. Not to mention how they were actually the first American political party to explicitly identify themselves with the term.
@@johnweber4577 Thank you for this.
@@Shockkings0714 You’re welcome! Always glad to see it when somebody gets something out of anything I have to say. Haha
Stable video👍
I wanna join the Wig Party!
What a primitive world 2014 was. I was 30. 😅
Very, very interesting.
The word whig comes from the Scottish term "Whiggamore" which was a name given to horsemen who were against the British monarchy.
So as the UK Conservative party members are Tories, the UK Labour Party are the Whigs?
@@jwil4286 No. The Whig Party merged with other anti-Conservative groups, following the 1859 UK general election. That formally created the Liberal Party (the term liberal having been used more loosely for many non-Tories in the previous few decades). The Whig element in the Liberal Party mostly split from the official party in 1886 and joined the Liberal Unionist Party, to oppose Irish home rule. The Liberal Unionists became increasingly aligned with the Conservatives and the two parties merged in 1912. That is why the, rarely used, official name of the party is the Conservative and Unionist Party. The Whig tradition in UK politics was more or less extinct by the First World War.
@@jwil4286 No.
@@jwil4286 To my understanding the original Tories had largely faded into irrelevance by 1760 while the Whigs essentially split into the various factions which would reconstitute as the foundations of the Conservative and Liberal parties later on based upon a couple key debates such as how to respond to the French Revolution. The latter eventually being supplanted as the representation of the mainstream Left after years of collaboration by Labour. The term Tory was used disparagingly against William Pitt the Younger and his followers, much like how the Jeffersonian Republicans smeared the Federalists as monarchists over in the United States, despite his rejection of the term in favor of being called an "Independent Whig". But that wound up being to no avail as it ultimately stuck.
Thanks for an informative video. I've always wondered why an American political party took the name of a British political party
The modern whig party ceased operations in 2019. So it is gone once again.
"Ex-Whigs"? Weren't they in Star Wars?
odd choice of music but i like it alot
Did you take the music from an early 90s video game?
I made the music.
@@iammrbeat nice!
lol the modern whig party was dissolved in 2019
Millard Fillmore is literally Alec Baldwin, change my mind
To the editor: You need to make that obnoxious music louder. I can still hear the guy talking.
Makes me wonder what it would be like today
You made a couple errors in this video. First, the Whigs were a decidedly conservative party, as demonstrated by their business-oriented economic policies and belief in the supremacy of Congress over the president. Not all of them were anti-slavery either; most Southern Whigs were pro-slavery, including Alexander Stephens, who would later become Vice President of the Confederate States during the Civil War. Their indecision on the slavery issue was the main reason they disbanded in the 1850s. Second, Henry Clay ran as a National Republican in 1832. While National Republicans were the forerunners of the Whig party, they Whigs didn't officially form until around 1833 or 1834.
If anything, while Northern Whigs might've displayed or at least were able to be more open about their antipathy toward slavery than Northern Democrats who in fairness had a stricter party line to toe, Southern Whigs were if anything perhaps even more intense when it came to defending the institution than Southern Democrats. That was exhibited by the Southern Whigs wanting anti-slavery petitions sent to congress brought forward and explicitly rejected to let it be known that the federal government could as well as would protect their property while Democrats with the approval of their Southern-wing preferred to have them tabled in order to prevent their Northern representatives from having to go on record with where they stood and committing them on it one way or the other. And while Southern Whigs demanded that the federal postal service refuse to deliver any and all anti-slavery literature, those being mailed to the South in particular, Democrats thought that it ought to be left up to the discretion of the postal workers as to whether the contents were truly dangerously incendiary. Basically, Southern Whigs called for definitive declarations while the Democrats didn’t want to take an official stance so as not to alienate any section of their coalition.
Arguably, the way each painted the issue very much highlighted the underlying differences between the two parties at the time. Pro-Slavery Democrats upheld it as an individual right that could be critical for the little guy's economic advancement while pro-slavery Whigs asserted that it had become an organic part of their society that would be nearly impossible to get rid of without horrible consequences and doing so would invite violent revolution from the freedmen. It is eerily similar to the differing forms of argument in favor of legalizing abortion. Pro-choice Democrats obviously portray it as a matter of women's rights so that they might have full autonomy and not have to deal with unwanted pregnancies getting in the way of their life goals while back when pro-choice Republicans were prevalent, they tended to focus on pragmatic social considerations like how it’s usually lower income earners whose children are more likely to become criminals that get them. That’s not to say which side is right or wrong on the latter topic, the former should be pretty clear by now, but it's interesting to touch on given how it illuminates what were very different liberal and conservative approaches to such debates.
But in any case, both of the major parties made a conscious effort to put slavery on the back burner during the Second Party System. The Whigs managed to find a compromise to get around it by invoking to the need to maintain the social fabric while the Democrats constructed their own in appealing to the principle of popular sovereignty. It was the shared cautious, conservative sensibilities that gravitated Southern Whigs to their Northern counterparts as opposed to the conflicting radical, populist fervor of the Jacksonian Democrats. Northern Democrats might not have spoken up against it as much as Northern Whigs, and some did stuff like not actively carry out fugitive slave laws locally on the basis that it was outside of their jurisdiction, but Southern Whigs figured that they posed a greater threat in the long run all the same if popular opinion on the practice decisively shifted against them given their greater willingness to engage in drastic action. They, who actually were generally the largest slave holders, themselves understood the Whig Party to be the more conservative option they were able to work with as they instead simply hoped to see it gradually end someday.
It was fringe groups, namely the Abolitionists, remembering that the term was historically applied to its extreme end rather than the entirety of the anti-slavery movement, and the Nullifiers who emerged from the Nullification Crisis around South Carolina that embraced sectional politics which ultimately prioritized slavery. And in their pursuit, each sustained a threat of secession. That was in stark contrast to the major parties who painstakingly strived to cultivate bisectional cooperation. Whether for better or worse, such regional politics did eventually manifest in the Civil War. And the South had already made an attempt to strike out on its own during the election of 1860 by running John C. Breckenridge. A lot of people are keen on framing everything through slavery to score easy political points with their audience when that’s projecting present assumptions onto the past. Of course, it is commonplace for Democrats to argue like this. But Republicans increasingly, with Dinesh D’Souza probably being the prime example, do it too by claiming that the welfare state is a covert extension of it to keep minorities down. Overall, as you were driving at, it’s just not as straightforward as many want it to be.
@@johnweber4577 You are correct that Northern Whigs were generally more antislavery than Northern Democrats and both parties tried to minimize the slavery issue until it became unavoidable. And if you consider the reasons why most antislavery activists took the positions they did, they were conservative. They felt that slavery was immoral and that went against the "free labor" principles that Northern Whigs (and later Republicans) supported. However, slavery DID naturally come up in relation to some of these issues. Westward expansion, for example, includes some territory that was permitted for the expansion of slavery under the Missouri Compromise, and some even advocated for repealing the Compromise altogether, which further inflamed debate about the expansion of slavery.
@@hotwax9376 Oh, make no mistake. I don’t disagree with most if not all of that. I was merely attempting to elaborate on the idea, not debunk it. One of the big points I tried to make was that despite that fact about the Northern Whigs, their Southern counterparts were willing to side with them over their rivals due to their conservative sensibilities as opposed to the radical fervor of the Jacksonian Democrats. I also thought that it was just worth exploring how there were actually arguments for and against slavery framed in both conservative and liberal terms which can be seen in other hot-button debates as well in order to further emphasize how interpreting history, especially when trying to relate it to the present, is more complicated than most people obsessed with fighting that out seem to think. But in fairness, that isn’t a problem I’ve seen you exhibit and if my responding in this way implied that rather then just finding what you were talking about a springboard which got my own mind going, then I apologize.
@@johnweber4577 I'm very happy to hear that, given how widespread the misconception is (especially how it's promoted by partisan Democrats to hide their long history of racism), and I apologize because I didn't read your whole comment. I just wanted to make it clear in case you also believed that, so I'm relieved.
I would even go as far as to argue that the Democrats are more similar today to what they were in the Jacksonian era than different, especially when it comes to economic policy. They still believe in class warfare, and Jackson's policy is largely the same as what Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren endorse now. Likewise, Republicans have always been a hodgepodge of conservative white evangelicals and fiscal conservatives, as were the Whigs before them. And as I said, being antislavery often was a conservative position, at least the way that Northern Whigs (and later Republicans) argued it.
@@hotwax9376 I agree that the two parties fundamentally rest upon the same substructures that they have traditionally which will express themselves differently along with the times. The Democrats have almost always brought together an assortment of interest groups who see themselves as oppressed by another reigning one. Today it is a wide array of racial, gender, sexual and religious minorities pitted against the proverbial straight white Christian male. In the past that common enemy was the bourgeois Eastern WASP Establishment. They appealed to a different set of fault lines including Scots-Irish versus Anglo-Saxon, labor versus capital, immigrant versus native, agrarian versus urbanite, Catholic versus Protestant, etc. There was clearly a lot more to their dynamic than North versus South as often believed. Even the latter wasn’t always as hegemonic as assumed given the presence of Southern Federalists, Cotton Whigs and members of the Conservative Coalition from the region.
On another Mr. Beat video on the election of 1836, somebody commented about how interesting it was that Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren became such close allies given how different they seemed as people. But it’s not so strange when you consider how Jackson was the son of first-generation Scots-Irish immigrants who ventured out into the frontier and that Van Buren was born in a rooted New York Dutch settlement who even spoke Dutch as his first language. In other words, both of them came from worlds apart from that establishment with cultural and economic dominance which they positioned themselves against. Regardless of their historical views on race, the Democrats have always been more comfortable with multiculturalism even if just among whites. That sense of diversity naturally lent itself to their support for secularism and individualism.
Meanwhile, the Whigs were nationalists who believed in maintaining the social fabric which is why they tended to be more concerned with limiting immigration, assimilation, and pietistic blue laws. Again, even if many were counterintuitively better on race or slavery comparably at least, those facts still remain. The Republicans were a very eclectic coalition upon achieving power on the national stage during the Civil War period which incorporated various disaffected political factions such as Northern Whigs, Democrats, Known Nothings and Free Soilers to name. But, ultimately, they were much the same. That’s not to say there haven’t been exceptions. William Jennings Bryan and Barry Goldwater make for interesting parallel examples of critical figures who respectively marked a turning point toward a new Left and Right within their party, but nonetheless held social views which clash with those general rules.
Those basic trends are still on display but recalibrated to the modern landscape. The Republican Party like the Whigs considers itself the party of true Americanism. Something that can manifest itself in either unifying or exclusionary fashion but is based around upholding the rule of law, capitalist system, religious morality and civic virtue. Some communities like the old white urban ethnics and Catholics who used to be solidly Democrat are now more apt to identify with them. And the Democratic Party remains that of those who, notwithstanding any previous lack of self-awareness about the treatment of certain minorities, feel dispossessed by the existing status quo. With wide-scale population movements and demographic changes, the borders were redrawn as described earlier. Anyway, there’s no need to apologize. I can’t really blame you for thinking a response that long was someone trying to pick a fight.
The 1982 music tho.