Well I find your show very interesting. I live in south central BC about a 5 hour drive to Vancouver. The Site C dam is very controversial here from both the cost and the extent of environmental damage. Interestingly there was a project proposed for a geothermal power development near Whistler which would have been viable and taken BC Hydro in a new direction as one just needs to realise that BC is sitting on the Ring of Fire which is a resource that has yet to be tapped here. We are very lucky to have BC Hydro as a crown corporation, so you need to be aware that Chris O'Riley is more politician than CEO. I have some insight into its operation as my sister for a while was on BC Hydro's board of directors. When it comes to BC's natural gas production, way too much of it comes from fracking which is the dirtiest and environmental damaging method possible.
I live in British Columbia and I have installed a 13.5 KW solar system and I have always imagined that my credit developed on sunny days is just like pumped hydro in that I am keeping water behind the dam.
Hats off to BC electricity, along with Québec Hydro in many ways they leaving the rest of the country behind.😅 These also are the only two provinces who give a substantial grant -along with the Federal Government- when you purchase an EV. 😮
Hi Robert, love the show, your amazing presenter and your whole ethos. I caught the recent video from the juice media on the Canadian Government and it gave me cause for concern regarding the tactics employed by BC Hydro around the LNG/gas pipeline - even if you buy the "transition fuel" argument......
In terms of the fires in Canada, there have been whole towns evacuated in some places - Yellowknife, for example. Lytton burned to the ground a few years ago. We have had major highways shut down due to fires, and loss of life with firefighters. And BC Hydro ratepayers are supposed to subsidise LNG extrapolation because that will be cleaner that using fossil fuels to extrapolate a fossil fuel. Bravo to the city councils and province for pushing out natural gas in new builds, but does seem odd do that while supporting the mining of LNG.
Amen. It's not odd as such. It's the usual corruption of politics by the fossil fuel industry. Even this guy was still talking about gas as a "transition fuel" as if it was 2010. That nonsense has been completely debunked..
@@cavramauI mean they have different names as one sort is captured by being cyro cooled, the other by being held in a pressure vessel. You can’t keep LNG in a cylinder for your bbq.
@@cavramauCNG is Compressed methane gas, it doesn't turn to liquid at the pressure and temperature used. LPG is Liquidfied Petroleum Gas or bottle gas, usually propane, butane,etc. Different molecules so different properties when pressurized. The discussion was that the gas was transported over pipeline from Alberta to a port on the BC coast where it would be compressed using electricity and loaded into CNG tankers for export. Kitamat has an aluminum smelter not sure if that was private hydro by the company or BC Hydro. Also many orphan paper mills with hydro plants not on the grid some used for crypto. 😂
I would have liked to hear about BC's plans to buy domestic generated solar when available and provide credit for when it isn't, thereby removing the need for domestic battery storage.
Love Fully Charged! Have been following you for years and going to your Fully Charged Event in Vancouver September 8,9,10 2023. Looking forward to seeing you there 😂😅🎉
I cringe everytime LNG/Gas is mentioned. Imagine how much energy could be saved without all the energy that is going into it. Even if it is owned by first nations there should be no new Gas facilities at all.
Hopefully the uk will soon be free of gas, by using wind, tidal, geo thermal etc…..it’s all about the storage though. Surely the same options are avail for Canadians over there in Canadia?
@@ChrisValin-w6o Actually heat pumps are the way forward. Natural gas is a serious contributor to climate change as well as violating Indigenous rights via projects like CGL. Time for land back and getting off fossil fuels immediately th-cam.com/video/u7s-BgfcFXw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YNvijiLDdcwqOfTb
@user-zi8hk3ze5g Up to a point it's needed. But, [as was pointed out in the podcast], heat pumps do the job very nicely minus all if the emissions from well to wheel so to speak & BC Hydro are assisting the customers in transitioning to heat pumps. Justin Trudeau is such a hypocrite when it comes to support for climate change prevention and mitigation action. One minute he's busy saying yes Canada will play its part, whilst turning around the very next minute and signing permissions for new oil and gas pipelines, often through First Nations lands, barely, if at all, paying lip service to their concerns or objections. Here's a video that Robert did the narration to. It focuses on the well to wheel aspects of fossil fuels but is equally applicable to natural gas. th-cam.com/video/mk-LnUYEXuM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UA3bdmAdSZPq_jrP
26:46 how absurd that the largest load on the grid will be a new plant designed to export vast amounts of dirty fossil fuels overseas, ensuring that other countries remain reliant on dirty energy 😣
No fossil fuel facilities are owned by first nations. First Nations are having their names associated with these facilities because it's politically expedient, and are paid a pittance, while the majority of first nations live in third world poverty. Fossil fuel facilities are owned by FF companies who have the capital to build them.
Canada can be Clean Energy superstar living on 100% renewables- especially onshore wind! Get rid of Tar Sands in Alberta and convert all houses to electricity only.
I would have loved to have heard questions on the potential offered by tidal energy. They must be abundant, looking at the geography of the coasts, both of the mainland and of the islands, and the channels between them
I live in BC, Canada and what other people call range anxiety I call a trip to the next town. Vancouver is 400km+ and Calgary is almost 600km. The only way I can get to Vancouver and back is the charger network that BC Hydro built.
Have you done anything with the folks at "ember"? (Pierce Glennie and Keith Bradbury are the company owners) They run what was/is the first (only?) UK intercity electric bus service that presently operates between Edinburgh/Dundee and Glasgow/Dundee and have great plans for expansion.
interesting show. Wish i could go to a fully charged show but i am homebound. Was curious. I have seen on a few other PRO-EV channels about issues with some of the Korean (i think) vehicles at 1 year plus having issues with there charging port and computer. I love to hear all the new and exciting progress but i would also love to hear about the EV issues some vehicles are having to help inform the public of things to watch out for when swapping to electric. All it takes is one bad experience to make a petro-head dig in and refuse to listen or change
Great content. I once heard large utilities plan 10 yrs out. But as your guest said they may have to work with some scenarios that demand more than they hoped. Hear in Ontario we have smart meters but got rid of our residential grid tied initiative. And not we have new rates at peak hrs 4pm to 9pm of 24c/kwh. I am almost tempted to put in a battery bank that gets charged at off peak low rates to use at high peak. I could probably put in 2kw of solar on my garage roof that will help a bit. A diy solution for 10k$ would probably pay pay back in 5 years. Wish my Bolt had reverse charging on it! Cheers
We installed batteries last year and double the size of our PV array. The DYI solar company “Signature Solar” in Texas has amazingly inexpensive kits. I installed most of the system myself and had a licensed electrician. Make sure it was correct.
without solar or wind on site, charging during off peak is pretty much the only way any homeowner can save on electricity, here in NS i don't think it's possible to get demand metering yet, unless smart meters can be programmed to just do it. if it is, it'd be a great idea to get it, even in an apartment, a small bank on a garden cart would do enough for a week of power outage, my old cart can hold 600lbs, if all that was on it was a battery, charger and inverter, it'd handle the vast majority of my needs. just the fridge and my computers, my ups on my main says it uses about 95 watts, even when gaming(older game engine)... all that's left is finding a safe chemistry, don't want the place inflagrated.
@@patrickmckowen2999 You'd probably want to go with something like Pylontech batteries. They can be rack mounted and configured in multiple modules. @EVPuzzle has some installed.
A question that wasn’t asked and I would've liked to know the answer to is: At what point would BC Hydro consider it to financially (& or) drought driven water conservation viable to install floating solar en masse at their hydro dam reservoirs instead of paying Californian generators/utilities for (their) excess solar power and when would they anticipate doing so; 10, 15, 20, or even 30 years hence? As Bobby pointed out those hydro reservoirs are VAST and could generate substantial amounts of solar power. Ultimately it should prove to be cheaper to generate your own solar power rather than pay for someone else's supplies as anyone with solar will attest to. I understand that they currently use Californian excess afternoon generation as their version of pumped hydropower, but I cant help wondering how long that the current approach will remain viable as California increases its electricity consumption due to the transition to electrification of everything and in the face of climate change driven precipitation variability.
I agree with heat pumps but it is just a compressor like used in an air-conditioning system. In my experience, compressors don’t last long and then their efficiency goes down and maintenance goes up. How does BC Hydro do a true life analysis and how do you advise your consumers?
Sorry, Robert - didn't mean to rain on your parade! You and the team are doing a great job of helping to demonstrate the electric alternatives and at the moment it is the best way we have of meeting our energy needs. It has been an uphill struggle to broaden acceptance of this idea and it is good to see the wave building. In spite of my frustration at what feels like a "Nero' - like approach to the massive changes needed (the Roman Emperor - not the car!) I do recognise we probably need to fight one battle at a time.
We need power and we need to produce it in the least damaging way possible. While I applaud countries such as Norway and the state of BC in their intentions to produce a large proportion of their energy cleanly there is an unreality about BC's plans to vastly ramp up production. In truth, there is no way of producing power without some damage. Dams cause an enormous amount of environmental damage down stream as well as in the flooded area. PV panels and batteries still require vast amounts of minerals and together with cars and wind turbines vast amounts of metals in construction of the units. Extending transmission lines requires the clearing of large tracts of land which splits up ecosystems and entails further use of finite materials. We still need to get our heads around the reality that instead of feeding the beast of a lifestyle brought about by the aberrant era of fossil fuels in a cleaner way we will in the end have to reduce our levels of consumption of nearly everything in order to avoid environmental collapse. Thinking that we have so many trees a few less won't matter is the same thought process that denuded Europe of its forests. Clean power is essential - we just need to work out how to use less of it.
The way fluctuations in demand in traditional power stations has included huge electric heaters. Fast load control was by switching in and out these massive heaters. So the generators could ramp up and down the out put of the massive spinning machines. Then 'peaker' plants, gas fired or hydro electric, became part of the system. Now EVs plugged into the grid can do this very fast. Vehicles are parked 23hrs every day.
@Withnail1969 EV battery must be built for the long drive. Say, for example, 100kwh. Most vehicles are parked 23 hours every day. In Australia, 20 million vehicles parked with 100kwh is 2,000gWh in storage. And the daily drive is only 7kwh. Which can be topped up ezi pezi. Fossil fueled electricity max 25gW over 24hrs is 600gWh if you are lucky. But 300gWh avg. Australia 20 million buildings connected to the national electrical transmission grid. With 6.6kw rooftop solar PV, then 660gWh daily on avg generated daily and at the users building. Storage is ×3 fossil fuel max. Generation is ×1.1 fossil fueled max. Or ×2.2 fossils fueled avg. Australian numbers. 80%of the world's population is in warm latitudes, and the climate is warming. So there is huge potential for the EV and rooftop being a part of the world renewable energy technologies. Australia had the world first Big Battery at Hornsdale SA. Many more are now under construction. Battery technologies are evolving rapidly. So the numbers are very interesting. We do not have the amount of resources to waste and not use. We do not have time to waste. We do not have the financial capacity. Nuclear is limited by the size of the grid. Nuclear will just double capacity and monopolise the entire grid.
10:44 disappointing to hear this "transition fuel" claptrap from someone like this. We know that lifecycle emissions for fossil gas are only slightly lower than coal and that the scientific community and the IEA have been shouting from the rooftops "NO new fossil fuel infrastructure" for years now. I know you don't like to contradict or push back on guests Robert but surely this kind of dangerous nonsense deserves a comment on passing at least....
Where do you expect the UK to get its electricity from during those low wind periods of winter, you need to propose an alternative not just complain about reality
@@edc1569See the channel Just Have a Think for loads of options to take the place of fossil fuels. Takes them one at a time and does a deep-ish dive on each one.
It's great that indigenous communities want to be part of the clean energy sector, 26:10 but how is an LNG electricity generation plant fit with the need to stop burning stuff (fossil fuels)? Is this more greenwashing = ethically produced & burnt fossil fuels? Especially as your guest has acknowledged we are feeling the devastating effects (& costs) of a climate in crisis now with fires, droughts, floods, etc...
Very Interesting, as usual. Can I just make the observation though, that it’s quite off-putting that your (nodding) head is twice the size of the guests on the screen. Perhaps have yours as a PIP Robert?
In the UK fossil fuel industry has been financially supported by government and transition has been through additional cost of electricity in a environmental charge on bills.
Fossil fuels have only recently contributed to weslth of the province. Mining and forestry are the main economic drivers here. Many of the dams in eastrrn bc were financed by US interests as flood prevention measures w power production as a side effect. USA still pays BC royalties for flooding valley bottoms in the Columbia Valley.
I sincerely do hope that any activity such company does which ultimately leads to more fossil fuel production does count in their overall carbon footprint and that they get taxed for it! 😡
@@edc1569 well, gas extraction and burning still emits. And this is only a temporary solution that continues to emit and contribute to climate change. We went through our gas reserves in the UK in 30 years or so…
Just so you know. Inflation is still a huge problem. This guy is just repeating the politicians lies on that point. Otherwise Utilities are privately owned in US and they are slow walking wind and solar here in the rural midwest where this is tons of space for installations.
You need the correct shape of coastline and seabed profile in order to get a high enough tidal range. The available sites are quite few. The Severn Estuary in the UK is an ideal site but the effects on the environment and wildlife would be profound so it has not happened.
A fair point but until nuclear fusion appears, if ever, then a reliable source of energy has to be found. UK, as but one example, is pragmatic enough to continue with drilling in the North Sea. Of course it's not ideal but the need for "energy" never goes away or gets any less. One might speculate that governments across the planet have conceded that this target of limiting mean global temperature rise to 1.5% is just a myth. The global ice is melting "today" as we type. Ocean temperatures are at unprecedented levels, not seen for quite some time. Surely no-one believes that global ice will start to reappear and all will well if we just keep to this 1.5% limit? The planet will experience sea levels rise and land inundated in the next few decades. Instead of trying to "control nature" the best solution is to engineer our way around the issues.
Remote combustion vehicles are the biggest greenwashing deal and won't reduce fossil fuel consumption. Better to buy solar panels for your roof than buying an EV
Note: Lifetime emissions of today's EVs are about half that of today's ICE vehicles. Over time, EV related emissions will go down, and down, and down. There are plenty of good things one can do to reduce emissions. And maybe, given a person's budget, some can be more useful sooner than others. But burning diesel and gasoline is not part of the solution.
@@MegaWilderness Actually, what's going to drive down EV emissions will be a) Phasing out fossil fuels in the energy grid. This has to happen regardless. b) Phasing out fossil fuels in industrial processes and in mining operations. This also has to happen regardless. c) Locating battery mining and refining operations closer to vehicle manufacturing sites. This is in progress now. Downsizing the vehicles wouldn't hurt. But that's not what's going to solve the problem.
@@davidmenasco5743 I completely agree that your a) then b) are far more important than switching to heavy over-powered vehicles of any type. BEVs are preferable to ICE but both only make up 10% of our energy use. Switching off air-conditioning would have a bigger impact
Today's grid transmits central generated electricity to the buildings and homes at the millions of ends of the grid. The grid can send electricity to any part of the grid. You're feed in home generated electricity is being sent everywhere and you pay to be connected to the grid. 😮 As your EV, and all vehicles, are parked 23hrs a day, every day, then you're EV should be plugged into the grid and taking your home generated electricity. Infact if the price is right, you're EV could sell some needed peak electricity into the grid. And make money. You're EV world set lower limits on reserve electricity for you're next drive, say home trip. At home you're EV can take excess and cheap electricity and recharge itself in the low demand early morning hours. Money for nothing and the battery is free with every EV. Hahaha Hahaha 😊😊😊😊😊😊
IEEE says only amplified and generated electricity exist, electricity decays to neutral charge so quickly, it can not be stored, only materials that have Mass can be stored and sold overseas.
i'm not sure what "AMPLIFIED" electricity is. But what you've written there is technically ... not entirely incorrect. At first read i thought it was the ravings of someone who forgot to take their meds, but the more i thought about it - it's not _very_ wrong, it's just a strange way to describe it. ps: Electricity cables can "SELL" electricity overseas without the need for storage (nor a requirement to ship a product containing MASS).
I haven’t heard of carbon sequestration being symbiotic. Like placing carbon dioxide consuming industry (commercial size greenhouses increase the CO2 level by as much as six times normal) next to carbon dioxide producing industry, electric power plants.
Lots of zealots in the comments talking about LNG. In Northern Europe we have to keep the grid on during winter, for many weeks of the winter there is simply no alternative. If we want to electrify heating and transport we need plenty of grid capacity to pick up that load. If you’re going to build out renewables you need a low cost and energy supply to fill in the gaps, gas suits that intermittent supply requirement very well. If you think the grid can somehow just work without it, well, go off grid in winter and tell me how you get on.
26:25 LNG EXPORT FACILITY... a part of the "clean energy sector". Excuse me are you on Acid? edit: Tried to watch past this a couple times, but logic kept demanding otherwise: What's the point, this O'Riley guy is quite clearly CORPORATELY™™™-DELUSIONAL
51:50 classic capitalist rhetoric 😂 So when they’re making profit it’s “please no regulation or intervention from the governments”. When investment is required (which for a private company basically means plan ahead and save up accordingly), then the governments “have to contribute” to help the people and shield them from “costs companies HAVE TO pass on” 🤣
Well I find your show very interesting.
I live in south central BC about a 5 hour drive to Vancouver.
The Site C dam is very controversial here from both the cost and the extent of environmental damage. Interestingly there was a project proposed for a geothermal power development near Whistler which would have been viable and taken BC Hydro in a new direction as one just needs to realise that BC is sitting on the Ring of Fire which is a resource that has yet to be tapped here. We are very lucky to have BC Hydro as a crown corporation, so you need to be aware that Chris O'Riley is more politician than CEO. I have some insight into its operation as my sister for a while was on BC Hydro's board of directors.
When it comes to BC's natural gas production, way too much of it comes from fracking which is the dirtiest and environmental damaging method possible.
I live in British Columbia and I have installed a 13.5 KW solar system and I have always imagined that my credit developed on sunny days is just like pumped hydro in that I am keeping water behind the dam.
I love this channel. Great presenters and topics. Would be nice to have a few more videos on home heating etc. Keep up the good work team
Hats off to BC electricity, along with Québec Hydro in many ways they leaving the rest of the country behind.😅 These also are the only two provinces who give a substantial grant -along with the Federal Government- when you purchase an EV. 😮
Ontario as well
Thanks Robert, love both the podcast and you tube versus. Have been watching for years. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🎉🎉😊✌️
Hi Robert, love the show, your amazing presenter and your whole ethos.
I caught the recent video from the juice media on the Canadian Government and it gave me cause for concern regarding the tactics employed by BC Hydro around the LNG/gas pipeline - even if you buy the "transition fuel" argument......
In terms of the fires in Canada, there have been whole towns evacuated in some places - Yellowknife, for example. Lytton burned to the ground a few years ago. We have had major highways shut down due to fires, and loss of life with firefighters. And BC Hydro ratepayers are supposed to subsidise LNG extrapolation because that will be cleaner that using fossil fuels to extrapolate a fossil fuel. Bravo to the city councils and province for pushing out natural gas in new builds, but does seem odd do that while supporting the mining of LNG.
Amen.
It's not odd as such. It's the usual corruption of politics by the fossil fuel industry.
Even this guy was still talking about gas as a "transition fuel" as if it was 2010. That nonsense has been completely debunked..
LNG is LPG renamed to make it sound better than Liquid Petroleum Gas.
@@cavramauI mean they have different names as one sort is captured by being cyro cooled, the other by being held in a pressure vessel. You can’t keep LNG in a cylinder for your bbq.
@@cavramauCNG is Compressed methane gas, it doesn't turn to liquid at the pressure and temperature used. LPG is Liquidfied Petroleum Gas or bottle gas, usually propane, butane,etc. Different molecules so different properties when pressurized. The discussion was that the gas was transported over pipeline from Alberta to a port on the BC coast where it would be compressed using electricity and loaded into CNG tankers for export. Kitamat has an aluminum smelter not sure if that was private hydro by the company or BC Hydro. Also many orphan paper mills with hydro plants not on the grid some used for crypto. 😂
I'm one of those 'even Alberta' people. :) Looking forward to attending Fully Charged Live in Vancouver!
I would have liked to hear about BC's plans to buy domestic generated solar when available and provide credit for when it isn't, thereby removing the need for domestic battery storage.
It would be very nice if BC Hydro had more interlinks with Alberta to help decarbonize Alberta.
Love Fully Charged! Have been following you for years and going to your Fully Charged Event in Vancouver September 8,9,10 2023. Looking forward to seeing you there 😂😅🎉
I cringe everytime LNG/Gas is mentioned. Imagine how much energy could be saved without all the energy that is going into it. Even if it is owned by first nations there should be no new Gas facilities at all.
@@ChrisValin-w6o heat pumps. Also LNG is explicitly for export
Hopefully the uk will soon be free of gas, by using wind, tidal, geo thermal etc…..it’s all about the storage though. Surely the same options are avail for Canadians over there in Canadia?
@@ChrisValin-w6o
Actually heat pumps are the way forward. Natural gas is a serious contributor to climate change as well as violating Indigenous rights via projects like CGL. Time for land back and getting off fossil fuels immediately
th-cam.com/video/u7s-BgfcFXw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YNvijiLDdcwqOfTb
@user-zi8hk3ze5g Up to a point it's needed. But, [as was pointed out in the podcast], heat pumps do the job very nicely minus all if the emissions from well to wheel so to speak & BC Hydro are assisting the customers in transitioning to heat pumps. Justin Trudeau is such a hypocrite when it comes to support for climate change prevention and mitigation action. One minute he's busy saying yes Canada will play its part, whilst turning around the very next minute and signing permissions for new oil and gas pipelines, often through First Nations lands, barely, if at all, paying lip service to their concerns or objections.
Here's a video that Robert did the narration to. It focuses on the well to wheel aspects of fossil fuels but is equally applicable to natural gas.
th-cam.com/video/mk-LnUYEXuM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UA3bdmAdSZPq_jrP
Much more nuclear energy needed
26:46 how absurd that the largest load on the grid will be a new plant designed to export vast amounts of dirty fossil fuels overseas, ensuring that other countries remain reliant on dirty energy 😣
and the GALL of calling it part of "the clean energy sector" has me FUCKING LIVID
No fossil fuel facilities are owned by first nations. First Nations are having their names associated with these facilities because it's politically expedient, and are paid a pittance, while the majority of first nations live in third world poverty. Fossil fuel facilities are owned by FF companies who have the capital to build them.
Additional benefit not mentioned with the heat pump in BC is using it for cooling in summer!!
Canada can be Clean Energy superstar living on 100% renewables- especially onshore wind! Get rid of Tar Sands in Alberta and convert all houses to electricity only.
And much more nuclear
Governments should fill the existing transmission grid with renewable electricity and grid storage.
Thanks for this, nothing like hearing from the top.
I would have loved to have heard questions on the potential offered by tidal energy. They must be abundant, looking at the geography of the coasts, both of the mainland and of the islands, and the channels between them
Another great show Robert!
Look forward to the next one.
Cheers from Brissie
That BC Hydro guy was just promoting Electricity. I believe in all the other provinces, a Crown corporation takes care of all energy needs.
See you there. Travelling from Calgary to see the show.
I live in BC, Canada and what other people call range anxiety I call a trip to the next town. Vancouver is 400km+ and Calgary is almost 600km. The only way I can get to Vancouver and back is the charger network that BC Hydro built.
Ok Bobby, here's my positive review:
LOVE yer show!
Have you done anything with the folks at "ember"? (Pierce Glennie and Keith Bradbury are the company owners) They run what was/is the first (only?) UK intercity electric bus service that presently operates between Edinburgh/Dundee and Glasgow/Dundee and have great plans for expansion.
interesting show. Wish i could go to a fully charged show but i am homebound.
Was curious. I have seen on a few other PRO-EV channels about issues with some of the Korean (i think) vehicles at 1 year plus having issues with there charging port and computer. I love to hear all the new and exciting progress but i would also love to hear about the EV issues some vehicles are having to help inform the public of things to watch out for when swapping to electric. All it takes is one bad experience to make a petro-head dig in and refuse to listen or change
Great content. I once heard large utilities plan 10 yrs out. But as your guest said they may have to work with some scenarios that demand more than they hoped.
Hear in Ontario we have smart meters but got rid of our residential grid tied initiative. And not we have new rates at peak hrs 4pm to 9pm of 24c/kwh. I am almost tempted to put in a battery bank that gets charged at off peak low rates to use at high peak. I could probably put in 2kw of solar on my garage roof that will help a bit. A diy solution for 10k$ would probably pay pay back in 5 years. Wish my Bolt had reverse charging on it!
Cheers
We installed batteries last year and double the size of our PV array.
The DYI solar company “Signature Solar” in Texas has amazingly inexpensive kits. I installed most of the system myself and had a licensed electrician. Make sure it was correct.
without solar or wind on site, charging during off peak is pretty much the only way any homeowner can save on electricity, here in NS i don't think it's possible to get demand metering yet, unless smart meters can be programmed to just do it. if it is, it'd be a great idea to get it, even in an apartment, a small bank on a garden cart would do enough for a week of power outage, my old cart can hold 600lbs, if all that was on it was a battery, charger and inverter, it'd handle the vast majority of my needs. just the fridge and my computers, my ups on my main says it uses about 95 watts, even when gaming(older game engine)... all that's left is finding a safe chemistry, don't want the place inflagrated.
@@felderup LFP(lifepo4) is a proven safe chemistry vs Li-ion. Not as energy dense as Lion but safe.
Cheers
@@patrickmckowen2999 i had even been considering nickle iron, yet living in an apartment, i have to consider moving them eventually.
@@patrickmckowen2999 You'd probably want to go with something like Pylontech batteries. They can be rack mounted and configured in multiple modules. @EVPuzzle has some installed.
Great stuff Robert.👍
A question that wasn’t asked and I would've liked to know the answer to is: At what point would BC Hydro consider it to financially (& or) drought driven water conservation viable to install floating solar en masse at their hydro dam reservoirs instead of paying Californian generators/utilities for (their) excess solar power and when would they anticipate doing so; 10, 15, 20, or even 30 years hence? As Bobby pointed out those hydro reservoirs are VAST and could generate substantial amounts of solar power. Ultimately it should prove to be cheaper to generate your own solar power rather than pay for someone else's supplies as anyone with solar will attest to.
I understand that they currently use Californian excess afternoon generation as their version of pumped hydropower, but I cant help wondering how long that the current approach will remain viable as California increases its electricity consumption due to the transition to electrification of everything and in the face of climate change driven precipitation variability.
The wildfires in Maui are not in a rainforest. They're on the wrong side of a mountain in what's practically desert.
👍🏼Another quality discussion.
I agree with heat pumps but it is just a compressor like used in an air-conditioning system. In my experience, compressors don’t last long and then their efficiency goes down and maintenance goes up. How does BC Hydro do a true life analysis and how do you advise your consumers?
Sorry, Robert - didn't mean to rain on your parade! You and the team are doing a great job of helping to demonstrate the electric alternatives and at the moment it is the best way we have of meeting our energy needs. It has been an uphill struggle to broaden acceptance of this idea and it is good to see the wave building. In spite of my frustration at what feels like a "Nero' - like approach to the massive changes needed (the Roman Emperor - not the car!) I do recognise we probably need to fight one battle at a time.
A very fine channel, keep up the good work!
Some of the reservoirs for BC Hydro are immense. One of them is nearly 100km long.
We need power and we need to produce it in the least damaging way possible. While I applaud countries such as Norway and the state of BC in their intentions to produce a large proportion of their energy cleanly there is an unreality about BC's plans to vastly ramp up production. In truth, there is no way of producing power without some damage. Dams cause an enormous amount of environmental damage down stream as well as in the flooded area. PV panels and batteries still require vast amounts of minerals and together with cars and wind turbines vast amounts of metals in construction of the units. Extending transmission lines requires the clearing of large tracts of land which splits up ecosystems and entails further use of finite materials. We still need to get our heads around the reality that instead of feeding the beast of a lifestyle brought about by the aberrant era of fossil fuels in a cleaner way we will in the end have to reduce our levels of consumption of nearly everything in order to avoid environmental collapse. Thinking that we have so many trees a few less won't matter is the same thought process that denuded Europe of its forests. Clean power is essential - we just need to work out how to use less of it.
The way fluctuations in demand in traditional power stations has included huge electric heaters.
Fast load control was by switching in and out these massive heaters.
So the generators could ramp up and down the out put of the massive spinning machines.
Then 'peaker' plants, gas fired or hydro electric, became part of the system.
Now EVs plugged into the grid can do this very fast.
Vehicles are parked 23hrs every day.
EV's store a tiny amount of energy compared to what the grid needs. Forget this fantasy.
@Withnail1969
EV battery must be built for the long drive. Say, for example, 100kwh.
Most vehicles are parked 23 hours every day.
In Australia, 20 million vehicles parked with 100kwh is 2,000gWh in storage.
And the daily drive is only 7kwh.
Which can be topped up ezi pezi.
Fossil fueled electricity max 25gW over 24hrs is 600gWh if you are lucky.
But 300gWh avg.
Australia 20 million buildings connected to the national electrical transmission grid.
With 6.6kw rooftop solar PV, then 660gWh daily on avg generated daily and at the users building.
Storage is ×3 fossil fuel max.
Generation is ×1.1 fossil fueled max.
Or ×2.2 fossils fueled avg.
Australian numbers.
80%of the world's population is in warm latitudes, and the climate is warming.
So there is huge potential for the EV and rooftop being a part of the world renewable energy technologies.
Australia had the world first Big Battery at Hornsdale SA. Many more are now under construction.
Battery technologies are evolving rapidly.
So the numbers are very interesting.
We do not have the amount of resources to waste and not use.
We do not have time to waste.
We do not have the financial capacity.
Nuclear is limited by the size of the grid.
Nuclear will just double capacity and monopolise the entire grid.
Great show guys
10:44 disappointing to hear this "transition fuel" claptrap from someone like this. We know that lifecycle emissions for fossil gas are only slightly lower than coal and that the scientific community and the IEA have been shouting from the rooftops "NO new fossil fuel infrastructure" for years now.
I know you don't like to contradict or push back on guests Robert but surely this kind of dangerous nonsense deserves a comment on passing at least....
Where do you expect the UK to get its electricity from during those low wind periods of winter, you need to propose an alternative not just complain about reality
@@edc1569 interconnects with other countries, pumped storage hydro, some nuclear, tidal, batteries and by using demand management.
Excellent point! Burning stuff releases GHGs...@@michaelrch
@@edc1569See the channel Just Have a Think for loads of options to take the place of fossil fuels. Takes them one at a time and does a deep-ish dive on each one.
Much more nuclear
Wow, great show❤
I would be quite surprised if BC actually had a greater EV adoption rate than Québec. If it does, bravo!
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
BC has so many charging stations, rest areas and parks.
Vancouver has a number of district energy schemes.
It's great that indigenous communities want to be part of the clean energy sector, 26:10 but how is an LNG electricity generation plant fit with the need to stop burning stuff (fossil fuels)? Is this more greenwashing = ethically produced & burnt fossil fuels? Especially as your guest has acknowledged we are feeling the devastating effects (& costs) of a climate in crisis now with fires, droughts, floods, etc...
Very Interesting, as usual. Can I just make the observation though, that it’s quite off-putting that your (nodding) head is twice the size of the guests on the screen. Perhaps have yours as a PIP Robert?
BC is the Norway of Canada 🙂 I'd be interested in any plans to electrify BC ferries.
Doesn’t Long Island in New Ork have more electrical cables than Vancouver Island?
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The Carbon Footprint from the fires in Canada this year is 3 Times the whole Country's yearly Carbon Footprint to date currently.
The smoke was in Ohio were i. Live, i found out from Tesla Time News.
is here, gave you a 👍!
ou go, Bobby!
Morning mate
It’s all good stuff
Energy transition is welcome. How have places like Norway and Canada funded theirs though. Is through oil and gas sales?
The people that built the first railway did not get their money from railways.
@@julianshepherd2038not sure what you mean. Or even if that's a comparison. Both countries are huge producers of fossil fuels.
In the UK fossil fuel industry has been financially supported by government and transition has been through additional cost of electricity in a environmental charge on bills.
@@waltermcphee3787 how have places like Norway and Canada financed their transition. Through the export sale of gas and oil to other nations.
Fossil fuels have only recently contributed to weslth of the province.
Mining and forestry are the main economic drivers here.
Many of the dams in eastrrn bc were financed by US interests as flood prevention measures w power production as a side effect.
USA still pays BC royalties for flooding valley bottoms in the Columbia Valley.
That 20 grand Corsa in 3 years is what interests me 😅
I sincerely do hope that any activity such company does which ultimately leads to more fossil fuel production does count in their overall carbon footprint and that they get taxed for it! 😡
Sure, but displacing full time coal with intermittent gas does slash carbon output.
@@edc1569 well, gas extraction and burning still emits. And this is only a temporary solution that continues to emit and contribute to climate change. We went through our gas reserves in the UK in 30 years or so…
Just so you know. Inflation is still a huge problem. This guy is just repeating the politicians lies on that point. Otherwise Utilities are privately owned in US and they are slow walking wind and solar here in the rural midwest where this is tons of space for installations.
Canada has a big coastline, why not use tidal power? I believe its quite reliable!!
You need the correct shape of coastline and seabed profile in order to get a high enough tidal range. The available sites are quite few. The Severn Estuary in the UK is an ideal site but the effects on the environment and wildlife would be profound so it has not happened.
Salt water is an unforgiving medium. Keep away from it.
What makes you think it’s reliable?
It is reliable in the sense that the tides are entirely predictable.@@edc1569
@@edc1569 the tide always comes in and goes out. I’d call that reliable!
jsut leaving a comment for the algoritm...
Aces
I love the podcasts but omg this guy put me to sleep after annoying me with their still promoting natural gas
A fair point but until nuclear fusion appears, if ever, then a reliable source of energy has to be found.
UK, as but one example, is pragmatic enough to continue with drilling in the North Sea.
Of course it's not ideal but the need for "energy" never goes away or gets any less.
One might speculate that governments across the planet have conceded that this target of limiting mean global temperature rise to 1.5% is just a myth.
The global ice is melting "today" as we type.
Ocean temperatures are at unprecedented levels, not seen for quite some time.
Surely no-one believes that global ice will start to reappear and all will well if we just keep to this 1.5% limit?
The planet will experience sea levels rise and land inundated in the next few decades.
Instead of trying to "control nature" the best solution is to engineer our way around the issues.
Remote combustion vehicles are the biggest greenwashing deal and won't reduce fossil fuel consumption. Better to buy solar panels for your roof than buying an EV
Note: Lifetime emissions of today's EVs are about half that of today's ICE vehicles. Over time, EV related emissions will go down, and down, and down.
There are plenty of good things one can do to reduce emissions. And maybe, given a person's budget, some can be more useful sooner than others. But burning diesel and gasoline is not part of the solution.
@@davidmenasco5743 Only when they build light efficient vehicles under 1000kg instead of the current behemoths, same goes for ICE
@@MegaWilderness Actually, what's going to drive down EV emissions will be
a) Phasing out fossil fuels in the energy grid. This has to happen regardless.
b) Phasing out fossil fuels in industrial processes and in mining operations. This also has to happen regardless.
c) Locating battery mining and refining operations closer to vehicle manufacturing sites. This is in progress now.
Downsizing the vehicles wouldn't hurt. But that's not what's going to solve the problem.
@@davidmenasco5743 I completely agree that your a) then b) are far more important than switching to heavy over-powered vehicles of any type. BEVs are preferable to ICE but both only make up 10% of our energy use. Switching off air-conditioning would have a bigger impact
Today's grid transmits central generated electricity to the buildings and homes at the millions of ends of the grid.
The grid can send electricity to any part of the grid.
You're feed in home generated electricity is being sent everywhere and you pay to be connected to the grid. 😮
As your EV, and all vehicles, are parked 23hrs a day, every day, then you're EV should be plugged into the grid and taking your home generated electricity.
Infact if the price is right, you're EV could sell some needed peak electricity into the grid.
And make money.
You're EV world set lower limits on reserve electricity for you're next drive, say home trip.
At home you're EV can take excess and cheap electricity and recharge itself in the low demand early morning hours.
Money for nothing and the battery is free with every EV.
Hahaha Hahaha 😊😊😊😊😊😊
IEEE says only amplified and generated electricity exist, electricity decays to neutral charge so quickly, it can not be stored, only materials that have Mass can be stored and sold overseas.
i'm not sure what "AMPLIFIED" electricity is. But what you've written there is technically ... not entirely incorrect.
At first read i thought it was the ravings of someone who forgot to take their meds, but the more i thought about it - it's not _very_ wrong, it's just a strange way to describe it.
ps: Electricity cables can "SELL" electricity overseas without the need for storage (nor a requirement to ship a product containing MASS).
You should do a presentation at the IEEE would be a good laugh
I haven’t heard of carbon sequestration being symbiotic. Like placing carbon dioxide consuming industry (commercial size greenhouses increase the CO2 level by as much as six times normal) next to carbon dioxide producing industry, electric power plants.
Lots of zealots in the comments talking about LNG. In Northern Europe we have to keep the grid on during winter, for many weeks of the winter there is simply no alternative. If we want to electrify heating and transport we need plenty of grid capacity to pick up that load. If you’re going to build out renewables you need a low cost and energy supply to fill in the gaps, gas suits that intermittent supply requirement very well. If you think the grid can somehow just work without it, well, go off grid in winter and tell me how you get on.
Nuclear is needed
I prefer you in audio, hahahaha
Sorry I don't feel good it is about my foot
26:25 LNG EXPORT FACILITY... a part of the "clean energy sector".
Excuse me are you on Acid?
edit: Tried to watch past this a couple times, but logic kept demanding otherwise: What's the point, this O'Riley guy is quite clearly CORPORATELY™™™-DELUSIONAL
Fanrastic story, but typically
BORING poorly marketed, undersold, sleepy presentation by a Canadian. This guy has no sense of MISSION! 😴
51:50 classic capitalist rhetoric 😂 So when they’re making profit it’s “please no regulation or intervention from the governments”. When investment is required (which for a private company basically means plan ahead and save up accordingly), then the governments “have to contribute” to help the people and shield them from “costs companies HAVE TO pass on” 🤣
Boy o boy Robert you blew your credibility with this interview and Fully Charged's cred too! So sad.