San, you can’t keep bias wrecking me this hard. The way he treats children and his reaction to the clear mistreatment towards the wife in the story is completely winning my heart. Whoever he marries is going to be so incredibly lucky. He’s such a beautiful person, inside and out.
That guy betrayed his wife. The writer already said they're in relationship for 3 years and he had no problem with her fangirling earlier, that means jealousy isn't the issue here & if he was really jealous, he should have confronted his wife about that. Solding her merch without telling is brutal & disrespectful, today he sold your merch, tomorrow he'll try to take control of your other things. It's better to confront your husband & tell him that he need to respect you, he's your partner, not owner.
I can't even begin to explain how happy it made me to see San reacting that way, he really values respect and understanding other people's feelings ! Especially when it's about things that people may find "childish", you realise if people around you really respect you... I agree with the youngest girl, I too would get a divorce, because if he doesn't respect me and my feelings, what's next? How is he gonna treat me when we disagree on something? And even if he apologies saying he was jalous I would still divorce him, because a controlling AND insecure guy is way too many red flags in one person.
I agree. Even if the merchant didn't have memories that was her property that she purchased with her own money prior to their marriage. No apology can change the fact that his controlling, selfish, entitled behavior led to that action.
Not to mention the lack of communication and straight up disrespect of not only stealing her possessions but the disrespect of full on ignoring her when she asked about it! How’d his reputation fare if he got a divorce?!
I wouldnt go to divorce straight away, but therapy is deffo needed, like hiding until you get married your real thoughts is actually so scary and deceiving, need therapy to see just how far his real self is different, or if it was just immature choice and he apologises when he hears how it made her feel and with a 3rd perspective something which might be useless and childish to him isnt to others
All of them including Hongjoong and San are right. San hit the nail on the head and later the lady who said he was looking down in her was correct, too. Because he knew she liked fangirling and the extent to which she did it for THREE YEARS. He married her KNOWING this was not going to immediately change, if ever, and that the physical media of her group was important to her. He agreed to have a whole ROOM set aside for her collectibles and instead of saying “hey babe, my gym equipment doesn’t fit anywhere else. do you think we can move some items ups not as attached to under the bed or in storage or sell the items that aren’t as rare? That way both of our collections can fit here and we can share this space equitably!” THAT’S how you talk to your spouse because you respect them! The husband does not respect her and if any of my albums, jewel cases, paintings, or books went missing like that I’d have to just start crying because not only is my husband a cruel person, he’s also looking down on me while fully already knowing how I am and what I enjoy, so he’s a liar and potentially abusive as well for trying to control my life without my input. Just nasty😭
Look at the bright side. If that woman divorces the husband like he so richly deserves, AFTER getting all her stuff back, that man will have an entire house for the gym equipment he thought more important than his marriage.
Sani's expressions in this part were GOLD. That man was willing to go to the writer's house to talk very seriously with her husband. And that's why I adore him and I know I can trust him as a human being. But in my opinion, this issue is not a matter of being merch or writer's memories, even if it was just a random thing she had only for three days, IT WAS /HER/ THINGS. Her husband has NO right to donate it without her permission. And the way he GASLIGHTED HER?! Please, writer-nim, listen to what Jiyoon said: GET DIVORCED.
The scary part is that once they were married he felt he could decide for her 🤐 That says how he really thinks about women!! That's why I loved what San said; he doesnt respect his wife!
@@bekahnavarroHe knew she would most likely say no which is why he took such drastic action after they got married. She needs to run cause this man does not respect her
San is spot on. It is about respect. I would actually be scared because if he knew me for 3 years and was totally okay with my fangirling the whole time, and yet he throws away all my stuff without even asking me right after getting married??? For me, it would mean he was hiding this for the whole time and I don't think I would be able to trust him again. Divorce is definitely on the table because that level of attitude change is definitely HUGE RED FLAG.
He definitely seemed to have been hiding it. It gave me the same vibes as someone who lies to his gf to get on her good side and get laid but once the ring is on shows his true colors and the fact he wants his now wife to change to his liking while he stays the same.
I really love how passionate everyone was about the subject (and I agree, if it was me, divorce would definitely be on the table). And I love how strongly San feels about what's right and wrong! He's such a sweet, respectful, empathetic person!
This one was so relatable that I'd file a divorce right away if I was her. And what San said was literally what I really wanted to say as well. I love how he can totally understand our feelings as fans, not just him but all the members
Atiny have known how respectful our San is towards women (all of ATEEZ but especially San). Hearing the subject I knew this is exactly how he would react. He truly is the standard. Thank you San’s dad for teaching him so well. Thank you San for always being who you are. A very respectful and caring person.
It's not about if it's merch or if it is fangirling etc. The point is: it was her stuff and she bought it with her own money. Basically he stole from her and dealt in stolen goods. Even if you are married not everything goes over in your possession. He had no right to sell the stuff of his wife, which means total disrespect and disregard about her and her stuff. I agree that this would for me be a case of getting a divorce. Because you can know quite certain that it will only get worse from that point on. That's like the reddest flag you could wave, except for violence. Also I love the fact that San instantly was like: that husband is an a**hole. Yes he said it nicer but... ^^
It feels like he lied to her while they were dating. He made it seem like he was ok with her hobbies. This is a concern I have. When I'm looking for a partner. I want to trust that they will respect my love for kpop and ateez!!!
Everyone should be on the writers side. Seriously, in what universe is it okay to give away someone’s stuff behind their back? I would do the exact same thing with his stuff unless he returned everything. While the girls were sharing their fan girl stories, you can see the attentiveness and gentleness in Hongjoong and Sans eyes. The sweetest boys❤❤
Oh wow san looked really pissed while listening to the story, even when the others laughed he was not having any of it. Honestly I was really annoyed at the story too, who does he think he is selling off the merch she worked hard for without even telling her? Being her husband does not give him the right. He does not respect his wife at all. I hope she’ll be able to get most of her merch back :(( Also I badly wanna see san guest in more shows like this! Kinda like Hellow Counselor?
First- thank you SO MUCH for the subtitles! Greatly appreciate it. Second- San is going to make an amazing husband and father. He understands respect and boundaries. His POV made me feel safe and I’m so thankful he’s my idol and in our Ateez ❤️🏴☠️
I can tell San got upset about this because I agree the husband didn't respect her at all. He knew she loved music and her collection. That is unforgivable
I really hope the husband listens to San's words and gets himself together and apologises to his wife and does everything in his power to get her stuff back, because just listening to the story made me want to cry. I would never forgive somebody who gave away my things without asking me beforehand, and even more so if those things are things important to me (I still can't believe he gave away a polaroid without even knowing what it was worth and how much his wife loved it). This man is a big red flag, because he could have just gone to his wife and say: "Honey, I need some space for my gym equipment, do you think you could make some room for me in your room?", but he decided to just take half of the stuff and give it away. The disrespect is real and I can't even start to imagine what he could do in the future if he doesn't realise that what he did was wrong. And San was so firm with his view of the issue, I love him so much for it.
Now i understand why ateez members said San is the scariest one when angry 😭😭😭 he's always so patient and full of aegyo but seeing he's getting mad like this really makes me chills but he's so attractive in other side idk why 🫠
3:35 YES!!!! He said exactly what I was thinking. It's not just about material goods it's about respect, and it's clear that man has no respect for his wife. Marriage is a partnership not a dictatorship. I would divorce him 10:18 A man who gets angry like this for the right reasons is a man you can trust. San I'm in love with you fr 😔💓
San and Hongjoong, they are such good men. That husband should be ashamed of himself… he has no respect for his wife, regardless of what the items were.
We can see clearly from San's facial expressions, tone, and words. He will treats his wife respectfully. He has such a big heart. He can relate with others emotions. Omg, i love him more.
Wow~ an official Korean youtube channel with really nicely done English subtitles without needing to press the TH-cam CC?? Thank you!!! I'm glad I stumbled on this video~ Awww and thank you to the production staff giving love to INFINITE!! I'm so happy they're loved💛 @11:06 they must be an INSPIRIT fan to use that as the catch phrase. Also idk who the white shirted guy is, but what he said was spot on and worded it perfectly. 👏
I mean, apart from it being merch and memories, it's her belongings first and foremost. He basically STOLE her stuff, SOLD it, and BLAMED it on her. It doesn't matter what item it is: a polaroid, a piece of clothing, or a car, for example. I would go to police tbh and then file a divorce, fuck that dude😕 San being so frustrated during the whole story made my heart hurt❤ He is such a beautiful and compassionate soul😢
This. Everyone was talking about fangirling and memories, but it boils down to ownership and control. His actions demonstrate that he believes that his wife and all her stuff are his property.
I`m appalled how her husband didn't respect her as a person and her hobbies donating everything. He should have talked with her if he had problems with it. Maybe he wasn't sincere when he supported her before marrying. It is really important to know who you are marrying. San one more time proving he's the best. I adore him even more!
just thinking about this make me teary and mad.. im not using his money at all, why he touching my things??!!! san give the best reaction, the hb need to do anything to get back the merch even if he has to kneel down! and again im surprise w san, he is very mature, even older man would listen to him i think
I really hate it when people think they have a say on your boundaries, just because they're married doesn't give the man a right on her things, no matter how that man saw little value of HER things, this just boils my blood to be honest. I hope she gets back her things tho😢
I'm so proud for stanning Ateez, I can't even describe how seen and safe I feel with them, there's no one like them istg, I'm so grateful that I've found them
My eyes unintentionally get watery as I watch the video. I empathize so much with the woman as a career idol otaku. One time, someone broke into my house and stole more than 500 mangas from my collection, I was utterly stunned out of word. Same for my fan girl collection, I can trash them but CAN YOU NOT TOUCH THEM, please. I’d seriously doubt the husband’s behavior before marriage if they were all acts of support for her fangirling. You don’t have any face and reputation to lose if you’re just going to disrespect and invade your spouse’ private space and toss their stuffs out w/o saying anything like that. If you gonna act like this, just show your true self before marriage so you guy can find the middle ground. Btw, Choi San is the golden flag🏆💯. I like that’s he’s not afraid to talk about his honest opinion (bc his idol status) it shows how caring, genuine, eloquent and mature person he is.
He’d come home the next day to all of his stuff outside waiting on him with divorce papers if my husband did this to me. Regardless of it being fan merch he disrespected his wife and was manipulative about how he did it. He only showed his true colours after they were married and did it behind her back. Massive red flag. I was so glad to see San reacting to angry. ❤
Hearing the writer's story is so frustrating. If her partner was okay with her fangirling for the 3 years they dated and then did this after two weeks, that means he was waiting for her to not be able to leave him so easily to get rid of her things. If I were dating someone who did that to me, I would break up with them without hesitation. Divorce is harder and more expensive to go through. However, I still agree with Jiyoon on the divorce. How can she really trust him again when he's not even apologetic or attempting to get her memories back. As someone else said, today it's her cherished memories; tomorrow it's something more intense and scary. He's controlling (and likely a jealous liar) and already showing it.
My ult bias Choi San is just a walking green flag. Not once did he see anything funny in this story, you could see his genuine anger that someone would treat someone like that. My already incredible love and respect for this man has once again grown. I am blessed that my husband supports my fangirling! And Choi San is the king of kings as far as I am concerned💜💜💜💜💜💜💜👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
san us right the husband should beg to get it back, someone who doesn't even talk to his wife in situations like this and just decides things has no honor anyways
Definitely on the writers side. If my husband donated my things he'd have to sleep outside until he got them back. And look at my HJ and San on the writers side as well. Esp Sannie who is clearly mad. Tysm for the subs!
love our joongie and sannie so much and YES A DIVORCE IS A NEED, MUST, COMPULSORY IF I EVER GET A MAN LIKE THAT. theres no way i'm staying with him unless he gets all the merch back that he donated
I'm also with the writer's side as the husband's actions was really not acceptable. I'm a fangirl and still single, but if my future husband does this to me, I'd also like to have a divorce. As what one of the hosts said, it's about the memories- why you collect merchs. In addition, I've seen some disrespect in my family recently and I felt pity towards my mom since it's already affecting her health. (I'm not going to put much details) It's sad but it really happens. I hope that kind of disrespect never find me when I will be married. But I really appreciate San's reaction because he does not hesitate to show the disgust that he had for the husband. It made me respect and love him as a person and my bias. I hope people (men) like him still exists because I feel it's rare nowadays.
Woah a story like this makes me so sad. Imagine falling for someone and it turns out their entire personality is fake and that they’d betray your trust this way… And in a country like Korea where divorce is still a bit taboo, that poor girl must’ve felt like she had no choice but to stay with that man… :(
if my husband does that to me? donating my ATEEZ merch or selling it. i'll be walking out the door and just go back after a minute with a perfectly white divorce paper presented in front of him. divorce is the only option. no questions ask.
Divorce definitely, 100% agree her husband sadly doesnt respect his wife, I have my Ateez merch in my living room displayed and my husband supports me fangirling as I support his gaming collection ❤️ love and respect for ever other in a marriage is important.
I was so angry. "If he's jealous it's ok" no it's not???? It's something he knew about her since they were dating, if it was something that really bothered him he should have said it when they were dating. "You're mine" no she's not. Besides, if she decides to merry you it's clearly because she loves you even more than her celebriry crushes. This really bothered me. I hope she can get all of her merch and her husband is actually sorry. But after that I wouldn't be able to trust him again
Anyways, I've always liked San but after this I admire him even more. He never laughed and got angry. He really gets it. Truly a man who respects women
im getting emotional in this topic. i mean, its really hurt when her husband just donate her collection merch without her knowing. i can't imagine if its happen to me. Im 31 years old but im not yet married and i still collecting ATEEZ album and merch, and soon I'll be meeting ATEEZ in Singapore this september. I wished my memories with ATEEZ will be forever on my side. 😭 i feel sorry for the writers that it happened to her,i hope ur husband will understand how precious the things that u collected.
I once got mad at my mom, didn't greet her (for a week) just because my magazine collection was burned. I cried remembering how hard it was to get hold of the magazine. but.. i finally gave up, after all my mother is everything. but it's a different story if it's a husband... maybe I'll ask for a divorce right there 😤
I've been an atiny for many years and i've gotta say it takes a LOT to get San *this* mad. He wasn't just annoyed he was really upset on the writer's behalf. I hope the writer gets divorced before her husband takes away other things that mean even more to her!
Definitely crossed the line, I guess from a place of jealousy and insecurity. Should have asked for permission or just express his true feelings. Also there’s no age for being a fan, of whatever. It’s harmless and brings a lot of happiness.
This is a legitimate fear I have. Coming home and my stuff is all gone. I would definitely be hunting some things down (like my Hongjoong cat ears PCs, which shall be buried with me)!! And have Sanie come speak to my husband 😂. We already have separate rooms though. I would be so afraid to meet Hongjoong because then it would be over and I wouldn't know what to do with the rest of my life.
if you manage to get that expression out of San, just know that it's over. And Hongjoong just smiling on the side like "you brought this upon yourself" is just- I love it
Everyone was talking about fangirling and memories, but it boils down to ownership and control. His actions demonstrate that he believes that his wife and all her stuff are his property. If you reading this dear writer--you need to get out of that relationship now. If you don't, in his mind, your staying will be like you're agreeing that those actions were appropriate since he's your husband. It will only get worse. Trust me when I tell you people like that don't change.
if my husband would’ve done something like that i’d make it look like a selfkill istg. even in marriage there are things that a couple keeps divided. we’re bonded by rings and vows, but i’m still me and you’re still you.
Thank you for the englisg subs😊😊😊 will ATEEZ appear on the next episode? I'd like to hear more from them, San Caught my heart .partners should have mutual respects
the problem isn't that the husband donated the merch, but its that he didn't even apologize for it. he has no respect for the wife's feeling, if he really loves her then he would accept her the way she is. istg most men would just accept everything the girl does when they are in a relationship but when they get married they try to shame her for it all and force her to stop.
I totally agree with what San has said. They said he might be jealous about her fangirling but the thing is HE IS already her husband. 😂 If her goal is to married her idols, she won’t even be meeting you. Giving away here Merch that she had if for a long time is totally a red flag. It is not something with JUST AN apology can get over with. Even it is not Merch today, even it is just a stamp collection. That wife have every right to be angry about it. It is exactly the same.
5:00 I did the same thing. Aside from collection I had a notebook full of pictures. When I saw it again one day it brought me memories and also inspiration how this person is so excellent in his work or craft. The husband should have respected her things. Not because they got married her things are also his things. I stopped fan girling when I had a bf because it might cause jealousy but realized now it is ok to look upto people and feel inspired or gain good vibes. Ahaha though now feels good to have no bf, no need to prove your worth or impress somebody constantly.
Actually I'm really pissed at the writer's husband! Really!! I'm already married for 5 years before I start stanning a kpop group. By stanning I mean I started collecting merch's. Albums, photocards and whatever products ATEEZ are releasing. But my husband NEVER, even once think of ruining even the arrangements of my collections. My husband knew how much every items cost and how I take good care of it. So, Sani is right when he said that the husband didn't respect his wife. The fact that he didn't even ask his wife before doing it. So to everyone out there! especially those who have partners who are a fan. Please please respect is a basic thing. For us who spend our money for whatever merch, it's not about collecting. It is about our time we spent with the artist we love, the happy memories we had while stanning them. That collections are reminder to us that once in our lives, we became really happy, that we enjoy and live our youth to the fullest.
Yo realmente me divorciaría, él no tuvo ningún respeto por su esposa. Si así reaccionó sabiendo que era una cosa que su esposa amaba demasiado, no me imagino como puede reaccionar frente a otras situaciones. San es realmente un mood, te kiero muxo san, cada día me sorprendes más
i used to really enjoy watching Hello Counsellor (안녕하세요) and thought ATEEZ members would do really well on them so I really enjoyed seeing this! thank you so much and thank you for providing subtitles for us!
Our ateez have such good hearts 🥰 it was really sweet to see everyone speak fondly about celebrities they like. It's true, those memories are precious! If something makes you happy, as long as you go about it healthily, it should be respected ❤
My blood boiled listening to this problem. I agree with San, this is about respect. The husband, at least, can talk with his wife first asking her to clean up/ make space in the room to put his gym equipments rather than donating the merch. The key point is respect. Have you ever thought about the probability that maybe the wife sacrificed her lunch money/ her dream clothes just to but the merch. And you just DONATED them?! I'm so pissed off!
Choi san was mad immediately. He didn't even wait to hear it got worse. I love a man with common sense and understanding!!!
San, you can’t keep bias wrecking me this hard. The way he treats children and his reaction to the clear mistreatment towards the wife in the story is completely winning my heart. Whoever he marries is going to be so incredibly lucky. He’s such a beautiful person, inside and out.
that's truth
If ateez finds that guy
HONGJOONG:Calm yet stern explaining /marriage counsellor
SAN : So……if I rip u horizontally won’t that make u limited edition
😂 Sannie 😂
OMG DKFJSLKFJDFJK WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE IM SCREAMING
nice😂👏
LMAO! Brilliant
😂😂😂🤍
That guy betrayed his wife. The writer already said they're in relationship for 3 years and he had no problem with her fangirling earlier, that means jealousy isn't the issue here & if he was really jealous, he should have confronted his wife about that. Solding her merch without telling is brutal & disrespectful, today he sold your merch, tomorrow he'll try to take control of your other things. It's better to confront your husband & tell him that he need to respect you, he's your partner, not owner.
San is the greenest flag I swear, I have never seen him this mad.. like his brain was like "this is not how you treat ppl"
I can't even begin to explain how happy it made me to see San reacting that way, he really values respect and understanding other people's feelings ! Especially when it's about things that people may find "childish", you realise if people around you really respect you...
I agree with the youngest girl, I too would get a divorce, because if he doesn't respect me and my feelings, what's next? How is he gonna treat me when we disagree on something?
And even if he apologies saying he was jalous I would still divorce him, because a controlling AND insecure guy is way too many red flags in one person.
Exactly how the husband acted in this situation is a big red flag for marriage. And only showing this attitude after they were married is scary af
I agree. Even if the merchant didn't have memories that was her property that she purchased with her own money prior to their marriage. No apology can change the fact that his controlling, selfish, entitled behavior led to that action.
Not to mention the lack of communication and straight up disrespect of not only stealing her possessions but the disrespect of full on ignoring her when she asked about it!
How’d his reputation fare if he got a divorce?!
I wouldnt go to divorce straight away, but therapy is deffo needed, like hiding until you get married your real thoughts is actually so scary and deceiving, need therapy to see just how far his real self is different, or if it was just immature choice and he apologises when he hears how it made her feel and with a 3rd perspective something which might be useless and childish to him isnt to others
All of them including Hongjoong and San are right. San hit the nail on the head and later the lady who said he was looking down in her was correct, too. Because he knew she liked fangirling and the extent to which she did it for THREE YEARS. He married her KNOWING this was not going to immediately change, if ever, and that the physical media of her group was important to her. He agreed to have a whole ROOM set aside for her collectibles and instead of saying “hey babe, my gym equipment doesn’t fit anywhere else. do you think we can move some items ups not as attached to under the bed or in storage or sell the items that aren’t as rare? That way both of our collections can fit here and we can share this space equitably!” THAT’S how you talk to your spouse because you respect them! The husband does not respect her and if any of my albums, jewel cases, paintings, or books went missing like that I’d have to just start crying because not only is my husband a cruel person, he’s also looking down on me while fully already knowing how I am and what I enjoy, so he’s a liar and potentially abusive as well for trying to control my life without my input. Just nasty😭
Very well said. I completely agree
Look at the bright side. If that woman divorces the husband like he so richly deserves, AFTER getting all her stuff back, that man will have an entire house for the gym equipment he thought more important than his marriage.
Sani's expressions in this part were GOLD. That man was willing to go to the writer's house to talk very seriously with her husband. And that's why I adore him and I know I can trust him as a human being.
But in my opinion, this issue is not a matter of being merch or writer's memories, even if it was just a random thing she had only for three days, IT WAS /HER/ THINGS. Her husband has NO right to donate it without her permission. And the way he GASLIGHTED HER?! Please, writer-nim, listen to what Jiyoon said: GET DIVORCED.
You can't spell Standard without SAN ❤ the way he's getting mad and raising his eyebrows is so attractive 🫠 his future wife is so lucky to have him.
The scary part is that once they were married he felt he could decide for her 🤐 That says how he really thinks about women!!
That's why I loved what San said; he doesnt respect his wife!
Exactly my thoughts! It seemed like he showed his true colours after he married her.
Yes I agree. If the husband had concerns, he should have brought it up to the wife. But to just purge her collection without her? Nah.
@@bekahnavarroHe knew she would most likely say no which is why he took such drastic action after they got married. She needs to run cause this man does not respect her
@@mikuforlife1929 Agreed
yeah, he definitely thinks she is his property
San is spot on. It is about respect. I would actually be scared because if he knew me for 3 years and was totally okay with my fangirling the whole time, and yet he throws away all my stuff without even asking me right after getting married??? For me, it would mean he was hiding this for the whole time and I don't think I would be able to trust him again. Divorce is definitely on the table because that level of attitude change is definitely HUGE RED FLAG.
He definitely seemed to have been hiding it.
It gave me the same vibes as someone who lies to his gf to get on her good side and get laid but once the ring is on shows his true colors and the fact he wants his now wife to change to his liking while he stays the same.
It goes to show that it's not something as simple as fangirling. It's memories that you cherish.
I really love how passionate everyone was about the subject (and I agree, if it was me, divorce would definitely be on the table). And I love how strongly San feels about what's right and wrong! He's such a sweet, respectful, empathetic person!
Same! Divorce was the next step I’d just give him the papers the same way he just discarded half of her stuff
2:30 the way San didn't laugh while the others were laughing and he raised his eyebrows after that 🥶🫠why so attractive
7:20 San's face is angry but his hands never stop pat the doll is so adoring 🥹❤
This one was so relatable that I'd file a divorce right away if I was her. And what San said was literally what I really wanted to say as well. I love how he can totally understand our feelings as fans, not just him but all the members
Atiny have known how respectful our San is towards women (all of ATEEZ but especially San).
Hearing the subject I knew this is exactly how he would react. He truly is the standard.
Thank you San’s dad for teaching him so well. Thank you San for always being who you are. A very respectful and caring person.
San was NOT HAPPY, and I love him for that😭🩷
It's not about if it's merch or if it is fangirling etc. The point is: it was her stuff and she bought it with her own money.
Basically he stole from her and dealt in stolen goods. Even if you are married not everything goes over in your possession. He had no right to sell the stuff of his wife, which means total disrespect and disregard about her and her stuff.
I agree that this would for me be a case of getting a divorce. Because you can know quite certain that it will only get worse from that point on. That's like the reddest flag you could wave, except for violence.
Also I love the fact that San instantly was like: that husband is an a**hole. Yes he said it nicer but... ^^
San be like :don’t be shy drop his address I just wanna talk 🙂🗡️
It feels like he lied to her while they were dating. He made it seem like he was ok with her hobbies. This is a concern I have. When I'm looking for a partner. I want to trust that they will respect my love for kpop and ateez!!!
Everyone should be on the writers side. Seriously, in what universe is it okay to give away someone’s stuff behind their back? I would do the exact same thing with his stuff unless he returned everything. While the girls were sharing their fan girl stories, you can see the attentiveness and gentleness in Hongjoong and Sans eyes. The sweetest boys❤❤
San was so pissed, he didn't even laugh with others when he heard the story.
That made me respect san even more.
Oh wow san looked really pissed while listening to the story, even when the others laughed he was not having any of it. Honestly I was really annoyed at the story too, who does he think he is selling off the merch she worked hard for without even telling her? Being her husband does not give him the right. He does not respect his wife at all. I hope she’ll be able to get most of her merch back :((
Also I badly wanna see san guest in more shows like this! Kinda like Hellow Counselor?
One thing about San, he really is so real. He's so sincere.
Choi San's heart is in the right place! ♡
First- thank you SO MUCH for the subtitles! Greatly appreciate it.
Second- San is going to make an amazing husband and father. He understands respect and boundaries. His POV made me feel safe and I’m so thankful he’s my idol and in our Ateez ❤️🏴☠️
I can tell San got upset about this because I agree the husband didn't respect her at all. He knew she loved music and her collection. That is unforgivable
I'm amazed by how well San expressed his disapproval of the husband, I'd just say to dump him plz
I really hope the husband listens to San's words and gets himself together and apologises to his wife and does everything in his power to get her stuff back, because just listening to the story made me want to cry. I would never forgive somebody who gave away my things without asking me beforehand, and even more so if those things are things important to me (I still can't believe he gave away a polaroid without even knowing what it was worth and how much his wife loved it).
This man is a big red flag, because he could have just gone to his wife and say: "Honey, I need some space for my gym equipment, do you think you could make some room for me in your room?", but he decided to just take half of the stuff and give it away. The disrespect is real and I can't even start to imagine what he could do in the future if he doesn't realise that what he did was wrong.
And San was so firm with his view of the issue, I love him so much for it.
Oh my god just when I thought I couldn’t fall in love with Choi San even more🥹
Now i understand why ateez members said San is the scariest one when angry 😭😭😭 he's always so patient and full of aegyo but seeing he's getting mad like this really makes me chills but he's so attractive in other side idk why 🫠
San has such a beautiful heart for others.
3:35 YES!!!! He said exactly what I was thinking. It's not just about material goods it's about respect, and it's clear that man has no respect for his wife. Marriage is a partnership not a dictatorship. I would divorce him
10:18 A man who gets angry like this for the right reasons is a man you can trust. San I'm in love with you fr 😔💓
San and Hongjoong, they are such good men. That husband should be ashamed of himself… he has no respect for his wife, regardless of what the items were.
We can see clearly from San's facial expressions, tone, and words. He will treats his wife respectfully. He has such a big heart. He can relate with others emotions. Omg, i love him more.
Wow~ an official Korean youtube channel with really nicely done English subtitles without needing to press the TH-cam CC?? Thank you!!! I'm glad I stumbled on this video~
Awww and thank you to the production staff giving love to INFINITE!! I'm so happy they're loved💛 @11:06 they must be an INSPIRIT fan to use that as the catch phrase.
Also idk who the white shirted guy is, but what he said was spot on and worded it perfectly. 👏
I mean, apart from it being merch and memories, it's her belongings first and foremost. He basically STOLE her stuff, SOLD it, and BLAMED it on her. It doesn't matter what item it is: a polaroid, a piece of clothing, or a car, for example. I would go to police tbh and then file a divorce, fuck that dude😕
San being so frustrated during the whole story made my heart hurt❤ He is such a beautiful and compassionate soul😢
This. Everyone was talking about fangirling and memories, but it boils down to ownership and control. His actions demonstrate that he believes that his wife and all her stuff are his property.
I`m appalled how her husband didn't respect her as a person and her hobbies donating everything. He should have talked with her if he had problems with it. Maybe he wasn't sincere when he supported her before marrying. It is really important to know who you are marrying. San one more time proving he's the best. I adore him even more!
진심 덕질하는 사람으로서 빡친다... 와.. 말도 없이 저런게 어디있냐고
San is such an honorable and sweet person!! I really love that about him ❤
just thinking about this make me teary and mad.. im not using his money at all, why he touching my things??!!! san give the best reaction, the hb need to do anything to get back the merch even if he has to kneel down!
and again im surprise w san, he is very mature, even older man would listen to him i think
I really hate it when people think they have a say on your boundaries, just because they're married doesn't give the man a right on her things, no matter how that man saw little value of HER things, this just boils my blood to be honest. I hope she gets back her things tho😢
Yo San is not laughing ONE BIT.... Woah. And then his explanation, woah.... That future wife is so lucky
I'm so proud for stanning Ateez, I can't even describe how seen and safe I feel with them, there's no one like them istg, I'm so grateful that I've found them
CHOI SAN SINGLE HANDEDLY RAISING MY ALREADY HIGH STANDARDS, EVEN HIGHER!
That is the example of a true man.
My eyes unintentionally get watery as I watch the video. I empathize so much with the woman as a career idol otaku. One time, someone broke into my house and stole more than 500 mangas from my collection, I was utterly stunned out of word. Same for my fan girl collection, I can trash them but CAN YOU NOT TOUCH THEM, please. I’d seriously doubt the husband’s behavior before marriage if they were all acts of support for her fangirling. You don’t have any face and reputation to lose if you’re just going to disrespect and invade your spouse’ private space and toss their stuffs out w/o saying anything like that. If you gonna act like this, just show your true self before marriage so you guy can find the middle ground.
Btw, Choi San is the golden flag🏆💯. I like that’s he’s not afraid to talk about his honest opinion (bc his idol status) it shows how caring, genuine, eloquent and mature person he is.
He’d come home the next day to all of his stuff outside waiting on him with divorce papers if my husband did this to me. Regardless of it being fan merch he disrespected his wife and was manipulative about how he did it. He only showed his true colours after they were married and did it behind her back. Massive red flag. I was so glad to see San reacting to angry. ❤
Hearing the writer's story is so frustrating. If her partner was okay with her fangirling for the 3 years they dated and then did this after two weeks, that means he was waiting for her to not be able to leave him so easily to get rid of her things. If I were dating someone who did that to me, I would break up with them without hesitation. Divorce is harder and more expensive to go through. However, I still agree with Jiyoon on the divorce. How can she really trust him again when he's not even apologetic or attempting to get her memories back. As someone else said, today it's her cherished memories; tomorrow it's something more intense and scary. He's controlling (and likely a jealous liar) and already showing it.
My ult bias Choi San is just a walking green flag. Not once did he see anything funny in this story, you could see his genuine anger that someone would treat someone like that. My already incredible love and respect for this man has once again grown. I am blessed that my husband supports my fangirling! And Choi San is the king of kings as far as I am concerned💜💜💜💜💜💜💜👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
san us right the husband should beg to get it back, someone who doesn't even talk to his wife in situations like this and just decides things has no honor anyways
Definitely on the writers side. If my husband donated my things he'd have to sleep outside until he got them back.
And look at my HJ and San on the writers side as well. Esp Sannie who is clearly mad.
Tysm for the subs!
0:20 instantly sold his play station and football shirt. We're both not gonna have hobbies
love our joongie and sannie so much and YES A DIVORCE IS A NEED, MUST, COMPULSORY IF I EVER GET A MAN LIKE THAT. theres no way i'm staying with him unless he gets all the merch back that he donated
Choi San🤴
San is the standard ❤
8:32 San petting the bunny 🥹
I loved Sans reaction to this, immediately connected to him on a spiritual level
I'm also with the writer's side as the husband's actions was really not acceptable. I'm a fangirl and still single, but if my future husband does this to me, I'd also like to have a divorce. As what one of the hosts said, it's about the memories- why you collect merchs. In addition, I've seen some disrespect in my family recently and I felt pity towards my mom since it's already affecting her health. (I'm not going to put much details) It's sad but it really happens. I hope that kind of disrespect never find me when I will be married.
But I really appreciate San's reaction because he does not hesitate to show the disgust that he had for the husband. It made me respect and love him as a person and my bias. I hope people (men) like him still exists because I feel it's rare nowadays.
Woah a story like this makes me so sad. Imagine falling for someone and it turns out their entire personality is fake and that they’d betray your trust this way… And in a country like Korea where divorce is still a bit taboo, that poor girl must’ve felt like she had no choice but to stay with that man… :(
if my husband does that to me? donating my ATEEZ merch or selling it. i'll be walking out the door and just go back after a minute with a perfectly white divorce paper presented in front of him.
divorce is the only option. no questions ask.
your partner should be able to make you happy, if they're taking your happiness away- dump them! san was so right being angry !!
that's a husband material right there!
San.... I love you so much for your answer 💜
All the things you said go straight to my heart 💜
San is the standard. fight me if u think otherwise.
Divorce definitely, 100% agree her husband sadly doesnt respect his wife, I have my Ateez merch in my living room displayed and my husband supports me fangirling as I support his gaming collection ❤️ love and respect for ever other in a marriage is important.
wow! finally eng subtitle! Thanks!
san was PISSED
I was so angry. "If he's jealous it's ok" no it's not???? It's something he knew about her since they were dating, if it was something that really bothered him he should have said it when they were dating. "You're mine" no she's not. Besides, if she decides to merry you it's clearly because she loves you even more than her celebriry crushes. This really bothered me. I hope she can get all of her merch and her husband is actually sorry. But after that I wouldn't be able to trust him again
Anyways, I've always liked San but after this I admire him even more. He never laughed and got angry. He really gets it. Truly a man who respects women
Meanwhile men can obsess over sports since they were young and no one says a thing
im getting emotional in this topic. i mean, its really hurt when her husband just donate her collection merch without her knowing. i can't imagine if its happen to me. Im 31 years old but im not yet married and i still collecting ATEEZ album and merch, and soon I'll be meeting ATEEZ in Singapore this september. I wished my memories with ATEEZ will be forever on my side. 😭 i feel sorry for the writers that it happened to her,i hope ur husband will understand how precious the things that u collected.
I once got mad at my mom, didn't greet her (for a week) just because my magazine collection was burned. I cried remembering how hard it was to get hold of the magazine. but.. i finally gave up, after all my mother is everything. but it's a different story if it's a husband... maybe I'll ask for a divorce right there 😤
I've been an atiny for many years and i've gotta say it takes a LOT to get San *this* mad. He wasn't just annoyed he was really upset on the writer's behalf. I hope the writer gets divorced before her husband takes away other things that mean even more to her!
Definitely crossed the line, I guess from a place of jealousy and insecurity. Should have asked for permission or just express his true feelings. Also there’s no age for being a fan, of whatever. It’s harmless and brings a lot of happiness.
San’s eyebrows 😮
if collecting green flags is one of the sports competition then i bet ATEEZ will bring home the beacon (especially Sannie) ✨
SAN is the one I need by my side when I need support !!
HJ, is when I’m out of my mind and needs reasoning.
This is a legitimate fear I have. Coming home and my stuff is all gone. I would definitely be hunting some things down (like my Hongjoong cat ears PCs, which shall be buried with me)!! And have Sanie come speak to my husband 😂. We already have separate rooms though.
I would be so afraid to meet Hongjoong because then it would be over and I wouldn't know what to do with the rest of my life.
if you manage to get that expression out of San, just know that it's over. And Hongjoong just smiling on the side like "you brought this upon yourself" is just- I love it
Everyone was talking about fangirling and memories, but it boils down to ownership and control. His actions demonstrate that he believes that his wife and all her stuff are his property. If you reading this dear writer--you need to get out of that relationship now. If you don't, in his mind, your staying will be like you're agreeing that those actions were appropriate since he's your husband. It will only get worse. Trust me when I tell you people like that don't change.
if my husband would’ve done something like that i’d make it look like a selfkill istg.
even in marriage there are things that a couple keeps divided. we’re bonded by rings and vows, but i’m still me and you’re still you.
The problem isn't the merch, is the husband's behavior. I'm glad we all agree how much of a red flag he is
Thank you for the englisg subs😊😊😊 will ATEEZ appear on the next episode? I'd like to hear more from them, San Caught my heart .partners should have mutual respects
the problem isn't that the husband donated the merch, but its that he didn't even apologize for it. he has no respect for the wife's feeling, if he really loves her then he would accept her the way she is. istg most men would just accept everything the girl does when they are in a relationship but when they get married they try to shame her for it all and force her to stop.
Sani I love you
I totally agree with what San has said.
They said he might be jealous about her fangirling but the thing is HE IS already her husband. 😂 If her goal is to married her idols, she won’t even be meeting you. Giving away here Merch that she had if for a long time is totally a red flag. It is not something with JUST AN apology can get over with. Even it is not Merch today, even it is just a stamp collection. That wife have every right to be angry about it. It is exactly the same.
Everyone should be the writer's side in this case. I loved each word & expression of San in this episode.
ah the second they said he threw it all away my mind just went "divorce" god im so offended on their behalf
5:00 I did the same thing. Aside from collection I had a notebook full of pictures. When I saw it again one day it brought me memories and also inspiration how this person is so excellent in his work or craft.
The husband should have respected her things. Not because they got married her things are also his things. I stopped fan girling when I had a bf because it might cause jealousy but realized now it is ok to look upto people and feel inspired or gain good vibes. Ahaha though now feels good to have no bf, no need to prove your worth or impress somebody constantly.
Actually I'm really pissed at the writer's husband! Really!! I'm already married for 5 years before I start stanning a kpop group. By stanning I mean I started collecting merch's. Albums, photocards and whatever products ATEEZ are releasing. But my husband NEVER, even once think of ruining even the arrangements of my collections. My husband knew how much every items cost and how I take good care of it. So, Sani is right when he said that the husband didn't respect his wife. The fact that he didn't even ask his wife before doing it. So to everyone out there! especially those who have partners who are a fan. Please please respect is a basic thing. For us who spend our money for whatever merch, it's not about collecting. It is about our time we spent with the artist we love, the happy memories we had while stanning them. That collections are reminder to us that once in our lives, we became really happy, that we enjoy and live our youth to the fullest.
Yo realmente me divorciaría, él no tuvo ningún respeto por su esposa. Si así reaccionó sabiendo que era una cosa que su esposa amaba demasiado, no me imagino como puede reaccionar frente a otras situaciones.
San es realmente un mood, te kiero muxo san, cada día me sorprendes más
3:20 help this part nearly made me cry-
i used to really enjoy watching Hello Counsellor (안녕하세요) and thought ATEEZ members would do really well on them so I really enjoyed seeing this! thank you so much and thank you for providing subtitles for us!
Donations are meant to come from the goodness of the heart, the husband did cross the line and divorce for me is the only answer😮💨 Let's go Sannie!!
I have all Hongjoong pics and posters and many many stuff that's related to him! and I would fight the world for him!
Thank you for english subs
Our ateez have such good hearts 🥰 it was really sweet to see everyone speak fondly about celebrities they like. It's true, those memories are precious! If something makes you happy, as long as you go about it healthily, it should be respected ❤
Hongjoong’s knowledge of fashion is amazing!! Is it possible for him to bias wreck me when he’s already my ult bias?
DIVORCE. I don't care what it is, to destroy or throw away something that means a lot to your partner without discussion or compromise is so cruel.
My blood boiled listening to this problem. I agree with San, this is about respect. The husband, at least, can talk with his wife first asking her to clean up/ make space in the room to put his gym equipments rather than donating the merch. The key point is respect. Have you ever thought about the probability that maybe the wife sacrificed her lunch money/ her dream clothes just to but the merch. And you just DONATED them?! I'm so pissed off!
seriously, I would divorce as well. and San never disappoints