ECW Living Dangerously 2000 Review | Wrestling With Wregret
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- Let's get dangerous! A new TV Champion is crowned, Dusty Rhodes goes "old school", and one of the most dangerous stunts in ECW history happens right here, at LIVING DANGEROUSLY 2000! Nominate classic shows on Patreon! / wrestlingwithwregret
03:34 Steve Corino confronts the Sandman's wife
04:53 Bullrope Match: Dusty Rhodes vs. Steve Corino
08:16 CW Anderson & Billy Wiles vs. Danny Doring & Roadkill
10:30 ECW World Championship: Mike Awesome vs. Kid Kash
11:58 Jado & Gedo vs. Nova & Chris Chetti
14:13 TV Championship Tournament: Super Crazy vs. Little Guido
16:14 Balls Mahoney vs. Kintaro Kanemura
17:13 New Jack vs. Vic Grimes
19:31 ECW Tag Team Championship: Mike Awesome & Raven vs. Tommy Dreamer & Masato Tanaka vs. The Impact Players
23:10 TV Championship Tournament Finals: Super Crazy vs. Rhino
25:51 Final Thoughts
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+ThatGinger Matt
#FACTS
And it's an ecw shitshow ***popcorn
CAN I GET ANUDDA FACTS IN THE COMMENTS!!!! 😑
Fucking facts
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.my dog died
I was at this show in my home town. A few notes:
- First show I ever went to was at this venue on May 16, 1995 WWF ran 4 superstars tapings here. WWE would return in 2005 for a Smackdown house show.
- ECW planned to run a TNN taping here in January 2000 but made it a house show where Jerry Lynn injured his leg putting him on the shelf for a while promising us a tv taping at a future date which became this pay per view. They returned in June for a TNN taping and in September for a house show.
- TNA ran a house show here in January 2010 with Kurt Angle and AJ Styles and drew less than 1,000 people.
- I graduated in this building 2 years after this pay per view.
Tight
Congratulations Awesome History thanks I needed that.
TNA wouldn't draw more than 1000 people with the card of Wrestlemania 2001 ...
Thanks for the info 👍
At first I was like "how do you draw less than 1000 people with Angle and Styles?" but then I remembered it's TNA
Imagine if every Sandman run-in had the four-minute entrance.
Cut to baby face getting absolutely destroyed
Sandman still working on his fourth beer
Imagine if he came out to "Outlaw Torn" instead of "Enter Sandman", that's song's nearly 10 mins. By the time he made it to the ring to bail someone out they'd be in another promotion by then.
RVD vs. Mike Awesome in 2000 sounds absolutely phenomenal.
I'm bummed to this day cause it dint happen
His injury was really a blow to the company as they were on tnn after they had lost the Dudleys and Taz already.
I'd make a joke about New Jack falling but I'm afraid he would actually kill me.
@Gary Hall You win the internet today sir.
lesson to self, when fat man says he doesnt want to do a spot dont drag him on top of self then blame him for a decade before trying to unironically k1ll him.
Yeah he probably would
New Jack fell. And New Jack pretty much deserved it.
He doesn't know where you live.
ECW having a shows called living dangerously is extremely perfect.
hardcore heaven was the most fitting ppv name for a wrestling show ever imo
@@pasta1169
Considering most ECW wrestlers died before the age of 40
The best name for a wrestling show I should say for wcw it was Halloween havoc, I’d have to think what I’d say was the best for wwf
17:55 New Jack lived up to living dangerously with that horrific stunt.
Especially with this edition being held less than a year before ECW's closure
Good morning, Tony Schiavone.
Lol
Sinister Minister is greatly underrated
Disappointed you didn't reference the best part of the Corino/Dusty feud: the promo where Corino accused Dusty of cutting the brake lines in Magnum TA's car.
Oh my fucking God lolol that's amazing
Wow.
And I thought E&C promo on fully loaded 2000 about the JFK assassination in Dallas no less was insane
As soon as Brian said Vic Grimes and New Jack my head slowly was putting together the puzzle.
When I knew what was going to happen next, I said out loud “Oh no.”
Once he said "Danbury, CT" I thought "oh no"
Ditto.
"Uh oh, this is the 'Danbury fall'..."
Should be noted that Kid Kash wrestled with his mouth wired shut due to a broken jaw that night and was almost pulled from the card
Explains why they gave him a fairly short match that, given it was against Awesome, didn't totally bury him, then.
...ugh. Just pull him!
@@ofs82 according to the extras in the forever hardcore doc, kash literally begged Heyman not to pull him and pulled all the stops to guilt trip him.
Nope, that was at Guilty as Charged.
ECW in 2000 was like watching a rockstar slowly die, there’s was a lot of swear words and lot of shit happens and a lot of drugs, but at least it was going to be a blaze of glory.
RIP ECW
Sounds like Jim Morrison. Or maybe Joe Strummer from the Clash?
Actually, I think Strummer is a better analogy. WWECW can be equated to the Clash mk. 2, since both of them started out with the best intentions but then got ruined by higher ups (Vince McMahon, Bernie Rhodes.)
Talent-wise, ECW still had a lot in the tank. The only terminal illness was the financial side of things, Heyman reached further than he could realistically grasp. If ECW survived, it’d probably (by downsizing) just end up resembling ROH due to the influx of new talent in the 2000’s with some leftover CZW antics - both those companies exist because ECW went under, pretty much. They filled the vacuum on a local level.
The "Man, Man, Man" comment is a nod to when Paul Heyman berated Medusa (I think?) at what I believe was Halloween Havoc '90 or '91, when he shouted at her, "I am a man, man, man! You are a woman, woman, woman!"
I appreciate that. I was confused and needed context.
I believe it's '92.
So she was once, twice, three times a lady?
Crazy to think how famous Cyrus was before he even got his Grade 10
big stevie cool fuck off I got work to do
Fuck off I got work to do
@@clydefrogv1 my father told me he was proud of me once. Fuckin' prick.
Hey Cyrus knock knock
Good shit lol
"One of those barricade posts where you pull the cloth strip out"
They're called stanchions, actually. I only know this because my work has been using them because of Covid. I don't know why it bugged me enough to point this out, but there's your new word for the day, kids. You're welcome.
Thanks!
We use them too.
People still want to lean the hell over them.
In New Zealand we call them bollards.
Joey Styles was good enough to call Living Dangerously but not BACKLASH.
That fall was one of the reasons New Jack would try to kill Vic Grimes, beat up a 72 year old man and stab a guy nine times in a match, his brain was even more scrambled than before.
Oh wait don't forget, legitimately clocking a green wrestler with a steel chair and beating the realistic shit out of a tag team for just having the word "gangstas" in their name. Is there anything else i miss?
That old man wasn’t selling
@@dean8917 You're wrong for that 😂😂
True but that was his gimmick and it is certainly no reason to beat someone on the head with a baseball bat for real.
2005Kam it’s the bookers fault he knew what would happen
I remember all the talk about "Vic Grimes is the next Mick Foley"
LOL!! People at the time didn't realize that Foley is 1 million times more than just "taking big bumps" lol
there will never be another mick foley now. no promotion will allow a wrestler to put himself through what foley did.
@@thomasjenkins7506 Wisely so, even Mick himself has said that the cell match with Taker would have been stopped today after the chokeslam through the roof.
@@thomasjenkins7506 Good. I love Mick and his career is legendary but watching him try to walk just makes me so sad.
Foley is actually a legitimately amazing worker, not just his acting and promos and character work, but his style of working is very tight and polished but made to look messy and haphazard. His vocalizations, mannerisms while he’s doing his thing sell the characters so much. Foley’s in-ring abilities are seriously underrated.
Brian's afraid to give MINUS FIVE STARS because he knows Jack will stab him.
I mean, would YOU give him a reason?
@@Jon_the_Wizard FUCK NO! I'd wrestle him and if he told me "You're tapping out with a chin lock." When i should have won, I'm tapping at the first chin lock so he doesn't stab me.
Jack still probably wants to stab him! Zane shot hard on him!
@@UltraViolentHippie to be fair is there anyone Jack DOESN'T want to stab?
@@heartgenerator4967 lol I don't think he would stab me cause I'm legit a huge New Jack fan
I watch some TH-cam...but I’m gonna lie when I watch these ppv classics... i got to be in total quietness and no distractions... by far 1 of favorite segments of wrestling to watch... keep up the great work Brian... maybe 1 day in the future... get to meet you when your in Massachusetts area
Ah yes Dusty and his longest rivalry.... His pants
Vince hates it when you leave yourself unprotected. He thinks it makes it look less real, which it does. Apparently it’s a firable offence not to have your hands up when you are being choked, etc.
I remember off Tough Enough season 5 that it is also Trish Stratus’ pet peeve when wrestlers adjust their gear when they should be selling.
You've got to watch New Jack's episode of Dark side of the Ring. The story behind that match is just as bad is the match itself.
One of many times New Jack says “I was high on coke.”
16:41 Why would Kintaro think that would work? Balls is a Chair-Type Pokémon.
These were the best to binge during quarantine
Hell yeah, I ran an ECW PPV Marathon too
#FACTS
Every video your transformation into Arn Anderson progresses
Overall thoughts on this show:
-Dusty being in ECW is something I completely forgot ever happened. Imagine if Heyman managed to convince Rhodes to buy a share of the company, if they had a recognizable big name as part of his inner circle, that would have been interesting.
-Sandman's wife getting Gore'd through the table is insanely tough and all the kudos to her for taking that bump.
-Mike Awesome rules. That is all.
-The fact that New Jack is still alive after Vic's fat ass landed on his head is an absolute miracle. One of the sickest spills I've ever seen. Pls don't hurt me Jack, no one deserves to have THAT happen.
-On the topic of that, Brian should have shown the clip of Jack vs. Grimes in XPW, because that's an equally insane fall. He completely missed the tower of TWELVE tables and landed right on the top rope, and bounced back into the ring. How in God's name was the worst injury he got was a dislocated ankle?
-I love Cyrus on commentary. He's so good at being a smarmy prick.
Overall, it's an okay show.
That XPW one was also totally Jack's fault to be fair. He admits he was trying to get Grimes to clear the ring and die on impact.
No matter how much time passes, the scaffold spot with new Jack and grimes is so gross.
It is gross but I love it at the same time
TheJrockfreak it’s not nearly as bad as the other fall grimes takes
@@RealBrizz You mean when New Jack purposely overthrew Grimes and nearly killed him because he blamed him for this. You know, even though its his fault because he's the one who pulled Grimes off the scaffold against his will.
@@scottgaultney new jack pulled him because he was scared jack said that they both counted on 3 but grimes hesitated now thats just new jacks side of the story but looking at the footage it relates to his side but at the end of the day no one really ever know who the telling the truth
Mike Awesome looks like that dude who played the saxophone at the carnival in The Lost Boys.
LMAO!
Gotta get the hips into it, tho
I still believe!!!!!!!!
Mike Awesome looks like that jock kid that even in 2021 thinks it's cool to hang out smoking dope and drinking in the school parking lot, blasting Motley Crue, in a 1988 Trans Am and beat up people half his size because he knows the school will never expel him because he's the top defensive lineman on the football team and they're never going to state without him.
What Joey styles trying to do a Tazmission in the opening.
Nice to see Jedo and Gedo, Bullet Club in ECW lol
Adam Cole is a black haired Steve Corino lol
Zane finally uploads his PPV reviews early for his Patreon members? I remember he didn't do that when I was a member.
Stevecorinovirus
Ok I HAVE to say this: I started watching the network since it's free and I keep seeing Adam Cole when it pops up and I keep thinking he's Ziggler it's fucking weird
isn't that the boyfriend of Britt Baker?
@@fillgollinsdergroarticheme8442 Yes he is
Fair play to ECW for not having half the budget that WWF and WCW had and still being really successful for a few years.
Not just being successful, but influencing the 90s wrestling boom with their fresh approach
Joel Gertner may have been more vulgar than a 2 Live Cru album, but I enjoy his brand of politically incorrect just for how lyrical he got while graphically describing sex acts
He was a master at dirty innuendo rhymes, thst natural sleazy charm was part of how he helped the Dudley boys gain their heat
ew you gay magician
Once you hear Gertner say “Well Well Well” when a microphone is in his hands, you knew something sexual was gonna come out of his mouth. Maybe Zane should call him “Giggity Giggity Goo” Joel Gertner.
Danny Blxck2 in ecw you had certainties akin to death and taxes...and one of those was,you give Joel gertner a mic? You were going to hear smut flow from that mouth
Man, I still can't watch the impact of that fall knowing Grimes basically crushes New Jack's skull.
New jack said he had brain fluid streaming out of his nose after that fall
So this was the show where Grimes lands on Jack's head
18:45 - 18:53 Basically, New Jack got fucked up big time.
That dark side of the ring was awesome very well made
New Jack can only blame himself though. He literally dragged Grimes off the scaffold.
21:49 I’ve only seen that move in Wrestlemania 2000. Nice work Tanaka
Atlas Security let me gored though a table after the king of old school Steve Corino held me down and berated me. Would not recommend. 1/5 stars. -Lori F.
sublime SUCKS
If you were in ECW, weren't you always living dangerously?
Good start to the day is when I see the notification for “ Wrestling With Wregret Classic PPV Reviews”
I'm still surprised that New Jack and Vic Grimes are alive.
Edit: 11 months have passed since I made my original comment and learned New Jack has passed on.
I’m surprised New Jack hasn’t successfully killed Grimes
I’m surprised cocaine hasn’t successfully killed New Jack.
@@freeparking301 nothing can kill new jack.
Especially Vic after New Jack intentionally tried to kill him during the XPW Scaffold Match rematch a few years later. As in, he's gone on tape admitting that he tried to make Vic overshoot the table stack when he tossed him off the scaffold and wanted him to land chest first into the ring post and die.
That gore through the table on Sandman's wife was truly terrifying. Holy shit
This is my favourite part of WWW by far!! The classic PPV review is the best thing, not only about wrestling on TH-cam, but TH-cam itself!!
Legit surprised to see Gedo on this show.
why he was all over early on never even really signed to FMW ( the Japanese promotion that worked with ECW) and was working multiple promotions
Same with Dusty Rhodes.
@@enigmaskull3495 Dusty was also in the first ECW game.
Whenever I have a bad day, I watch New Jack and Vic Grimes. Makes me smile.
Lmao. You sadist.
only thing I remembered was new jack almost dying lmao
Ever never actually seen the New Jack/Grimes fall off the scaffolding but holy shit that’s crazy. Your reaction was amazing😂
5000 people in the stands and 95 000 pay per view buys yet Paul couldn't afford to pay the wrestlers $20 each?
*What a businessman*
That’s what happens when you do business with a ✡️
Early life
@@a-nus Nice dogwhistle, mr antisemite
I've still got this PPV on the OG DVD 😁 great review... bought back the mems
A couple things to point out, Jado and Gedo are also from FMW, and Tanaka's one signature move is called the "Diamond Dust Bullet".
1 year after this ppv New jack tried to kill Vic Grimes and others wrestlers
How was that guy even allowed to be in a show, I know he had an appeal but it was only a matter of time that he ended up getting himself or his opponent killed.
@@timmi2198 RIGHT?? When Brian mentioned how he would try and kill Vic later on in his career I'm like wait. How did another promotion even manage to sign him after this horrendous spot? New Jack had brain damage and was blind in his right eye and yet that prompts getting hired to another promotion? Still can't get over that detail!!
@@ChattGM It was XPW, that's just the tip of the iceberg of shady stuff that Rob Black did.
I honestly don't understand what is running through a promoter's head when they sign New Jack to a match, he never should've been in wrestling.
Well, honestly, the gimmick he was going through with Smoky Mountain Wrestling (by Jim Cornette) was pretty clever where it was running red hot with the Black Hate during the 90s from what I recall.
BUT, you have to keep in mind that Heyman did this to influence New Jack with the Hardcore style he wanted to do.
He was super over in ECW. How should he have not been in the business
@@chr8985 Because of all the people he injured, often intentionally.Being over doesn't justify having a psychopath on your roster.
Oh shit! I remember that New Jack spot from Dark Side of the Ring.
James mitchell the best manager never to really make it.
I used to hope for ROH to bring him in to manage Punishment Martinez when he was there
I hated it when TNA split him from Abyss, I thought those two were perfect together.
"Click, Doomsday!" *maniacal laugh*
James Mitchell has aged pretty well, all things considered.
It's sad when a compliment is given that there aren't 'too many' bullshit finishes.
+1/2 a star for the boob flex.
Good god, that fall looked gruesome. Surprised you didn't include a clip of the scaffold toss.
Brian thank you for always being both outspoken and entertaining 🦔
Great for Dusty in showing us what really happens when you get a fever for more cowbell.
The ppv where New Jack almost killed himself
More like, “that time Vic Grimes got cold feet and almost killed New Jack” - I’ll be honest, I have no sympathy for Vic here. He said he’d take the bump and then at the moment of truth wussed out, after climbing a scaffolding. How can you possibly work the rest of the match after climbing back down? You can’t climb a high thing in wrestling without SOME sort of payoff and if you can’t do it, THEN SAY SO BEFORE CLIMBING THE THING in the first place, otherwise the crowd will expect a crescendo.
When I saw the word Danbury I was like "why does that name ring a bell?" and then it hit me like a brick wall. RIP New Jack's cranium
Seeing Jado, Gedo, Mike Awesome, Kanemura, and Tanaka really makes me want to see Brian review FMW so bad lol
I remember watching it live , and that Scaffold bump in kayfabe was legit "Let's both climb this thing together specifically so we can fall off of it". They didn't even try to make it look realistic.
That was the era when table spots started to get silly. When Public Enemy went to WCW, they once set up a table spot by forcing their opponents to climb up a ladder by punching them and hitting them.
Hey father james Mitchell, always good to see him
lol why does ECW security look like televangelists
omg 😂 That would've been a hilarious gimmick for them to do.
One of them looks like Don West
Someone has to pray for these sick cunts, especially New Jack.
I watched this PPV live & thought either New Jack or Grimes were dead. It really shook me because I had also watched WWF Over The Edge live the previous year. I was like "Holy Shit not again!". While no one died that fall seriously screwed up New Jack & nearly drove him to committing murder years later as a receipt to Grimes.
@Mike The Scott No way what?
Correction: during the vic grimes and new jack match, the rematch was when it was the 40 foot scaffold. This match the scaffolding was only around 15 feet according to new jack in interviews
That fall makes me cringe every time!
i thought the banner at the bottom at 0:39 was a pop up ad
I remember reviewing this show and a lot of people say that this is the worst ECW pay-per-view personally I kind of defend itTo me it's not really that bad of a pay-per-view because Paul Heyman didn't have Spike he didn't have Jerry Lynn Rob Van dam was hurtthere was a lot of people that was injured on this showor didn't show up because they didn't get paid but Paul Heyman somehow someway still made it work even though that there were some matches that didn't belong on here and yes the new Jack vic Grimes incident yeah this show is really remembered for that and I remember watching that and all I said was good God Almighty
I don't want to be that "Compared to the current product" guy, but it's clear that fans were sincerely invested in the product here, even if there were major issues. The respect they still had for the product and their reactions made this show probably better than it should have been. Nothing wrong with that.
I dunno seems pretty terrible to me
Brian is so close to saying "MINUS 5 STARS"
Was already giving this video a like, but the Danhausen reference made me wish I could give it two. 👍
New Jack and Vic Grimes almost die is probably The Best summing for this Match
Funny that this PPV is very fitting to our society dealing with Covid and protests, we are all Living Dangerously.
I was watching another classic review when this notification came up
This is a great interruption
Anyone watching this review after the news of New Jack's passing?
So you say "ref bumps don't matter in ECW", and you're mostly right. But in the case of Rhino and Super Crazy, it makes sense because Super Crazy was hitting his finish, and taking out the ref meant that there would be no one to count the pin, and the ref would absorb the blow from the last moonsault, so even if a replacement ref ran in, Rhino would be in a better position than if he, y'know, just ate Super Crazy's finish.
Kevin White glad someone else brought this up, you could also argue, Rhino used the ref to take the hit so Rhino can then shift the momentum of the match and get the upper hand on Crazy. Then rhino can hit his moves and hopefully the ref gets up in time to make the count or another ref comes in like you said.
And to think, if it wasn't for Vic Grimes falling as awkwardly as he did in that scaffold match, New Jack would have indeed killed him. The fact his ankle hit the rope and slowed him from going right to the outside actually saved his life. New Jack is insane
My thoughts when you mentioned Vic Grimes and New Jack: “Oh boy, here we go.”
Ah the good ol days. I miss 2000. I was 15 and just played Dreamcast and watched ECW/WWF. Bliss, haha!
That comic sans in the ring though...
"Man Man Man" is a reference to a controversial promo Paul E cut on Medusa that got him fired from WCW. Look it up on TH-cam. Good stuff
'Kintaro hits him in the head with a chair but Balls feels no effect."
That's because Balls Mahoney is a Chair Type Pokemon.
Not gonna lie I feel like Steve Corino is very underrated he’s a pretty great wrestler he can cut a good promo and his theme was AMAZING
I love Steve corinos work. His primes range from entertaining to amazing and his ring work was very very, solid.
I've been going through ECW shows on the Network and PPV, and it so happened I reached this show at the time this video came out. So, here are some additional thoughts:
Due to the Cyrus/Joey/Gertner interaction and the Corino/Sandman/Lori/Rhino stuff, it was 18 minutes before we got to the first match.
This show marked the second PPV Sandman was supposed to face Rhino, but did not happen.
I'd have to go back to the original tape, but it seems as if the WWE Network version had quite a bit clipped since it was only a few minutes over the two hour mark. I believe much of it was due to them cutting several of the entrances, likely due to music copyright issues.
Super Crazy was never a member of the Network stable. It was Tajiri who was a member until April 2000.
The elimination of Awesome/Raven during the tag title match was even more baffling considering Awesome took the pin after a Roaring Elbow from Tanaka. These two pretty much had to kill each other to get a pin in their singles matches, and it only took one elbow to end this match?
I think you overrated most of the matches, as there wasn't anything above 2 1/2 stars IMO. I think it's largely due to the lack of buildup for most of the show, which made it hard to get invested in the matches. IT was too chaotic for my tastes--and way too much Network and Cyrus, which was par for the course for 2000 ECW.
The logo for the promotion says "ECW Wrestling"
So does that mean we should have been calling it "ECWW" this whole time?
Extreme Championship Wrestling Wrestling
My day at work was starting out good but it went to crap seeing this PPV Review is helping me out
19:27 It's okay, PS2 came out a few months later.
Wow, the PlayStation 2 is gonna be 20 years old and I still got one
I loved ecw back in the day. Ecw is the icp of wrestling. Hardcore, over the top, underground underdogs, super dedicated fan base, Violent, small scale biz that blows up w/o major corporate backing. And still Hella legends have worked with them.
Speaking of living dangerously, another day and another video of Brian Zane looking like he spent 30 years trapped inside Jumanji...
ECW was better than WWF and WCW during the 90s
This show was 2000.
Outlaw Rip-off artist could hardly say ecw was Better in the 2000s though could be lol?
New Jack is the kind of person I wouldn’t meet without a small security force and probably a ballistic vest and helmet.
All you would have needed was a single 1911 .45
The Classic ECW PPV reviews are my absolute favourite! As a 2000’s kid it’s interesting as hell to me to because I was never exposed to ECW and that style of wrestling! Some spots are too crazy for my liking at times but, they produced many legends of the wrestling business and are certainly a company to always remember!
Love ur classic ppv reviews,keep up the good work
Diamond Dove? Are you sure Tanaka’s finisher wasn’t called Diamond Dust?
That move is one of my favorites. I had it as a finisher for one of my created wrestlers in one of the 2K games for career mode lol
new jack was and is crazy he didnt care for his opponents
This was Mike Awesomes finally ecw ppv if i remember right
Next one, I think.
Thanks Zman
Omg that New Jack bump always makes me wince in pain knowing his skull got cracked open and he has brain fluid coming out of his nose and ear(s?) - and all the other injuries and permanent damage you spoke of from said fall. New Jack was already a psychotic lunatic but I think this knocked out the few remaining marbles he had left.... After this he did the try and kill Vic Grimes a year later and I believe the Gypsy Joe beating, the indie wrestler he stabbed like 9 times, the 17 year old indie wrestler he carved open in a bar where literally no one seemed to be paying attention; these things were all post (this) fall, right? I feel like this ruined him. He was not very gifted besides gimick matches but he could cut a great promo and who knows what he could have been if not all the drugs and brain injuries and damage
6:28 I remember when Joey said that live, I was rolling LOL
The rule about when to censor people flippin' the bird seems to be:
- censor when it's aimed at another person (direct fire)
- don't censor if it's just a general and indiscriminate F.U to the whole arena and everyone watching at home (indirect fire)
You don’t agree to work a match with new jack then bottle it when you’re doing a high spot, I’m sorry but it was vic grimes at fault, he then had the audacity to brag about giving jack brain damage after
Well, I disagree. I think you're within your right to call off a dangerous spot. But more to the point, you are 100% in the wrong if you force somebody to do a spot- changing the nature of it and making it more unsafe.
New Jack gave himself brain damage by pulling Vic Grimes off the scaffold, end of story.
Yes, because the correct thing to do when someone waffles a spot is force them into it, therefore putting both of you in more danger. That makes sense to you?