@@TulaneAveLamar never looked confused in the pocket. His weapons needed time to mature, and that is the problem with the offensive weapons EDC drafts besides Hollywood brown and Zay flowers. Every other draft pick from EDC is a 2-3 year project even Likely didn’t really make a move until year 2.
@@timesquare4282 The other 4 times he threw 5 TDs - super confused.... Lamar's been dealing from the pocket - he never been confused, he's been agitated with his WRs for so long were bottom ranked in separation and top ranked for drops. He don't have to pray for something to open anymore. Everyone else doing their jobs so now things look easier
This is by far the best version of Lamar Jackson. He finally has a good weapons to throw it too and has the best RB he ever had in Derrick Henry which also benefits from playing for the Ravens. Zay and Batmen are able to get open because of the running game and the threat of Lamar doing both at an elite level.
@@justicestyleshis passes were to very wide open receivers 😂 this is all fine cause when Henry can’t run when a good defense stacks the box in the playoffs and puts A qb spy on Lamar he cannot complete a tight window throw to save his life
@@Sperry778First of all, Lamar's throws were not just to a bunch of open receivers and he has thrown in past games and threw last night to several players that were defended last night and completed those passes. So your statement is factually false.
@@Sperry778 Every QB has open passes aka “layups”! The tape shows tight window throws and dots along with it! In the playoffs, we have to see if LJ can get out his own way. All that stacked box and spying sounds good for amateur talk. This team specifically is a mismatch long as they stay healthy.
fr. eye test is improved. lamars developed his deep pass that wasnt there outisde of the occasional post route. the stats are on pace for career highs. crazy to think after 2 mvps lamar is still finding his ceiling
I mean we all have opinions! What key is coming from is maybe to fans like you who always pushed the he can't throw narrative. But to real lamar fans as key mentioned that 2019 vs rams Monday night 5tds0int game to me was better than last night.
...this is the best version because Lamar is not running for his life on every play, and thats due to having a 100+ yard running back...LAMAR IS CALMER AND MORE DECISIVE WITH HIS DECISION MAKING.
@@DannyMiller-e7l it hurts so bad don't it kid? 😆 every week you have to watch Lamar win and endure another 6 days of the media talking about how great #8 is 😆
@@bcamm3100we have to wait, it's not guaranteed. New season and many new players....you need a lot of luck in football, if it was like the NBA ravens would easily win the Superbowl....one game knockout doesn't really prove the best.
Dude they can't win a single game this year without the refs helping them and if it weren't for that they'd be winless. Mahomes leads in interceptions I guarantee if the refs called there games the same as everyone else the chiefs would be winless
Lamar has really become a pocket passer who sees the pocket collapse and all of a sudden he may as well be a top shelf RB. You can say hed be a great RB, but recognize he is an elite passer who can run that well. Hes not looking for rush yards anymore, but he will still find them. He's looking for recievers and taking what the defense gives him and he isnt missing right now!
Keyshawn is saying 20 plus yards extra a game is a minimal change, but he’s acting as if he was the 30th ranked quarterback in the league last year. That’s not that much if he was ranked dead last year with a ton of room for improvement but the guy is the reigning NFL MVP!! I am sorry, Keshawn has no business talking sports.
Exactly . These media people never believed in Lamar . They hanging onto whatever they can to keep the credibility. He’s been throwing in the pocket at an elite level ever since he came back from injury .
By far the best version, you wanna compare stats? Check the stats for Lamar against pressure.It's no secret over the years Lamar has struggled against the blitz, this year against the blitz, Lamar has been a masterclass and really making defenses pay when they send pressure, and in my opinion, this year he is just seeing the field much much better in the passing game. This is Lamars best version by far
It’s really no different in Lamar except a competent OC, good wrs and a great rb. He older so he’s experienced more. He was ready last season, but unfortunately Harbs is our coach. This year he will win it in spite of Harbs because they actually have 2 people in the backfield that the defense has to account for
I think it started last year under Monken he's built an offense with designed answers for blitzes and Lamar and the offense have executed them perfectly
Scored 7 points on the opening drive against the Chiefs. And only 13 points in the ensuing 55 minutes of the game. No version of Jackson works against the Chiefs. 😎😎😎
Yes and you have to watch the games to see this. People look at the stats and the scores and try to discredit him. I know numbers don’t lie but the tape don’t either.
I'm a steelers fan and Lamar has been amazing this season. He will probably get mvp this season if he keeps this up. Give that man his flowers. That is coming from someone who hates Baltimore but respect them
I bleed black n purple n I feel tha same way bout wht ur sayn n can't stand the Steelers but what's right is right and I'm giving you respect as well for wht you're saying cuz it's the truth well as the mutual respect for the teams that we love !!! 💜💯✊
@youngshamrock7258 I cant wait for the ravens steelers game. It's always a brawl no matter what records are and they at the top of the afc north right now too. That steelers d vs Lamar is going to be amazing
1:46 It feel the same to you like it feel the same to us real fans who have been really watching every game. Lamar has always had a arm just no #1 WR. But let them outsiders keep talking down on Lamar.
The big difference is pre-snap. Lamar has total control of the protections and play calls now. Roman didn’t allow that, and last year he was just learning the Monken system.
He' s becoming more efficient. It looks like the game is continuing to slow down for him. He is turning into the QB that Steve Young was talking about last year. More efficient, More dangerous
As a die hard Ravens fan, this is definitely the best version of Lamar we’ve seen yet because now he’s figured it out. This is the most lethal we’ve ever seen the pass game to complement the dynamic run game.
@The-Heart-Will-Testify you're joking, right? Ravens had their best chance to beat the Chiefs last year in their house and failed. Even with the injuries the Chiefs would smoke them. The Ravens defense is absolutely horrible. Kareem Hunt would probably rush for 150 yards! And we won't even discuss what it will be like when Pacheco comes back from injury. The Ravens aren't a better team than the Chiefs.
Yea Micheal Irvin is the most passionate, man in football and he is such a spectacle when he speaks , especially when he talks about his cowboys 😂, and his Miami hurricanes 😂😂😂, it’s must see tv with Micheal , I enjoy watching him very much
@@TherealShawnDiesalthat's Keyshawn Johnson not Paul Pierce Keyshawn was an NFL wide receiver in the 90s and early 2000s . He was the first overall selected in the draft in 95 or 96
Thank you key Lamar has been doing this since college where he won a heisman… 50 percent of the nfl is the players you have and the other 50 percent is coaching.. there is a reason before Lamar the ravens hadn’t seen the playoffs in 5 years.. they staked it all on him and besides a superbowl they’ve Been more than successful
@@DannyMiller-e7l lmfao you’re one of those whites your opinion matters little on Lamar you hills have eyes mf hate him because he represents the end of white QBs now get lost little white boy
As a Ravens fan, i have no shame in saying we are not the best team in the AFC. If the team that is 6-0 beat you, you aren't number 1. IT doesn't matter how well you look on paper, the King is the King. To be the best, we gotta beat the best. FOCUS! 💜😤🖤
Keyshawn’s not crazy. He just has no doubt about the kind of player he is. That’s all and I get it. This is the best version but I understand being somewhat used to this level of play.
Y’all said if Allen beats Lamar he is mvp Y’all said if Daniel’s beats Lamar he is mvp Y’all said if dak beats Lamar he is mvp Y’all said if baker beats Lamar he is mvp Give Lamar his flowers he is the face of the league he is who kids want to be. Lamar is the mvp
The reason Lamar and the Ravens don't have a SB ring yet is because they never trusted him to call for play changes based on what he saw on the field as the games progressed!!! Key is right-- it is the same Lamar, only now he is trusted with the key to the Bank!!! it will be interesting now!!! Baker has to produce without weapons!!! Lamar did it for 5 years and was in the playoff every year he has been playing!! This is the time for Baker to prove who he is and that he is as good as Lamar Jackson!!! Not going to happen but he is welcome to try!!!
@@gDiniM Henry probably wont see any difference. Its Hill who's gonna lose touches. As long as Mitchell comes in as comparable to Hill with them dump passes and can get around the edge on rushes we'll be good. If he's a true improvement over Hill... dear God help the NFL
@louistate3774 I think it would be bad to replace hill with him. Justice Hill is the most undervalued player on the roster by far. Mitchell and Henry need to be juggled for the run game with Hill in on 3rd downs mostly for the pass threat. He is Lamars bailout and it works constantly lmao its so funny to watch.
@chriswillis7315 I dont care about that. Hill is an invaluable depth piece that should be in on the majority of pass plays. Mitchell is a speedy back and he will be great to have back, but he should have a limited role for a while.
Literally when you watch a chiefs game I feel like all their biggest plays are off of screens because they aren’t as talented on receivers so they have to scheme for their receivers. If you gonna take it out for Lamar you gotta take it out for everyone else
Facts!! Lamar got a real Offensive Coordinator or Offensive Coach that understands you need wide receivers and real offensive play schemes. Patrick mahomes, burrow, Jalen hurts, Goff, Tua, Purdy are giving the weapons to play not just force them to do the heavy lifting
Baker still allows his eagerness take him out of the game,it showed when in the red zone, I believe it was 1st and goal and like he was dancing in fire 🔥 through the interception!! Instead of staying relaxed knowing he has 3 downs to score. Why spaz out!! Toss it out the end zone!! Instead, like when he was in Cleveland and the Rams, he spaz’s out. If he can ever get rid of that fault of his, he’s only destined to be a good QB instead of a top 10 franchise QB. Majority of QB’s in the league do the same. exact thing. He was doing great until that happened and then his focus went totally out the window.
I mean, the AFC North didn't turn out to be all that great, either. Pittsburgh's schedule is insane over the last 9 games, they have all their divisional games, the Commanders, the Eagles, and the Chiefs, along with three games in 10 days, and three games in 9 days, or something like that, Cleveland basically ruined their own chances, and the Bengals offended some sort of ancient deity or something.
Mike, the Ravens organization, decided not to play any starters in the preseason sooooo those first 2 games were like preseason games for the starters. You guys always talk about the past but fail to mention key facts.
you analysts got to remember the most important thing here, all these other Superstar quarterbacks have mad weapons, this is the first time we've had not had an elite player on offense next to the mall besides Mark Andrews... Not to mention we don't even have any elite receivers.. we don't have a jamarr Chase like Joe burrows we don't have stefon diggs like CJ Stroud we don't have a household name at wide receiver like all these other Superstar quarterbacks do
Baker will be alright. They’ve got a good young receiver core and you seen both Otton and mcmillan step way up after Evan’s went down and obviously Godwin is one of a kind but others can be also
I agree with Key. I think what it is, Lamar. Jackson is so shockingly good, and it's unbelievable. The stuff that he's doing, it seems as if he's getting better, but in reality he has been doing this all along. Yes, he's getting better reading the field. I'll give him that, but he's so explosive, and it's just unbelievable, I think. It appears as if he's doing something that he's never done.
And Dallas thought they’d be better not to pay Derrick Henry.. 👍🏼 Good job Jerry ! Dak got $60 million per year.. Mann he should’ve wanted to give 10 of that a year to Derrick Henry smh decisions decisions 🤷🏽♂️
Well Joy thanks for being unbiased. It is hard for Lamar and the Raven’s to get credit because basically the Chiefs defensive coach is the reason Lamar had not been successful. The first game the Ravens were still finding their identity Lamar said the game is slowing down for him, and that is why Lamar has gotten better! You will see keep watching the Raven’s. Hopefully the defense will come together this NFL season to help their transition . You will see this year when the Raven’s win period! One thing you all must remember things change they are not New England but you will see.
Love ❤️ love ❤️ ❤️love this version of the gang 🎉congratulations you are progressing ❤great show of all members display their skill 👏 Kay agreeing at times 🎉very good 👍great attire no opp for perv comments THANK YOU SPEAK
This is the best version of the Ravens and Harbs since Lamar has been with the Ravens. Key has it right, Lamar is the same, the tools around him and the game management in the last 3 games has been better.
To answer Keyshaun! Imagine fighting off a 300 lbs linemen, then a 300lb FB, then having to catch a 250+lbs rb or see said running back running towards you.
How the F is 29 yards, 4 TD's a "slight tick up"????? 11 TD's and then 15 TD's is close to a 40% increase! 29 yards/game is an increase with more then 10%....neither of those is "slight"
the stats are similar...but the path to success is very different. Lamar was constantly asked to be superman prior to this version of the offense. So the results i agree are similar but this is a far more sustainable version of Lamar and the Ravens offense.
Keyshawn this version of Lamar Jackson is reading the coverages and making changes to the play that was called upstairs. He's changing the plays at the los and throwing more accurately. Yes! This is the best so far.
Key is right Lamar has always been amazing. I will say now he’s getting better at knowing when to run and the coaches are calling less called runs so he can pick his spots to run. His weapons are better than they’ve ever been so it looks better
Lamar doesn't have 10 Super Bowl appearances, Superbowl wins with two different organizations, multiple all-time great comebacks against elite teams in big games and he can't beat Mahomes, which Brady did. so, there's that. Plus, Lamar has two MVPs so where isn't he getting credit?
MVP or no MVP, Lamar is must watch TV. When you love the game you want the best players to play and play well. Lamar does that more often that not. post season success has eluded him so far but he’s trying and trying hard. Can’t fault his dedication to getting better.
I still think 2019 is the best version. Maybe just maybe he wasn’t as good a passer but good lord his running ability in 2019 was uunnnnnreal. With age you slow down and even still now he’s by far more athletic than almost anyone else on the field this Lamar isn’t the runner he used to be
Key is just looking for a reason to say no. Because they can't have everybody on the panel saying the same thing. The fact that Lamar Jackson has been this good in two previous seasons doesn't mean that this isn't the best version of him. All three of them are the best version. Again, this is what he looks like when he's playing at his best. He can do that more than once. We say that about other QBs all the time
It’s really not a new Version he just has MORE playmakers and he finally got a SUPERSTAR instead of old players on their last leg. Henry might be old in football years but he ain’t on his last leg!
In regards to the week, one loss to the Chiefs. The ravens starters do not take a snap all preseason. That was their first preseason game. Additionally, three out of five starters on the offensive line were new. That was their first real game action together. It took them three weeks of shuffling players in and out of different positions to finally figure out the correct combination of lineman.since then, they have not lost. If the ravens and Chiefs played again today, the ravens would dominate them.
LAMARVELOUS!! GO FLOCK!! No matter how great lamar plays, its always a group of haters saying "but what about the playoffs" is he the only QB in the league without a SB?? If josh allen or purdy or dak or herbert did this nobody would have said that. None of these other good QBs have a SB ring so miss me with the playoff talk. Tell josh allen to get it done in the playoffs and not against wildcard opponents since thats where most of his wins comes from, tell dak to get it done, yell the 49ers to stop choking in the SB, tell all these other QBs to get it done in the playoffs too because the only one thats doing it is mahomes. Im tired of everybody acting like lamar the only QB with something to prove. They ALL GOT SOMETHING TO PROVE!! THEY ALL KEEP CHOKING ONE POINT OR ANOTHER IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE. A choke job is a choke job. Yall just salty lamar about to win yet another mvp and yall have nothing else to say. All yall can say is about the playoffs. What else can yall bring up? 😂😂😂 cant argue stats this year. His passing stats is better than your favorite QB. Keep hating!
If Lamar had weapons the first 4 years of his career he would have been won a Super Bowl or went to a super Bowl all facts ....lamar much better than mahomes ..
I know Joy wish she was still with her original cast of guys . Key is hard to work with sometimes I can tell and he’s a very knowledgeable guy of football. I just think his takes and arguments are a little over excessive. I don’t know if he’s complimenting Lamar or downplaying his growth
Numbers say it all. Not much change IMO. But if you had to ask for a 'best' version, yeah can argue that too. What is find funny is, 'best' version is now he's running less. The irony!
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Justice Hill need to get more credit for what he’s been doing
Facts
Lamar NEVER had a pass catching back like this.
Justice is insanely underrated. And ges an amazing blocker
@@JacaboBlanco Justice has been playing high level ball for awhile. Especially once he corrected his fumbles
@@Tragedy59they didn’t play Steelers yet, them fumbles coming
It's not the numbers or stats. Use your eyes, he look sooooo comfortable now. With Henry taking attention away, Defenses are at his mercy.
This is the first year he hasn't looked confused in the pocket.
@@TulaneAveLamar never looked confused in the pocket. His weapons needed time to mature, and that is the problem with the offensive weapons EDC drafts besides Hollywood brown and Zay flowers. Every other draft pick from EDC is a 2-3 year project even Likely didn’t really make a move until year 2.
@@TulaneAvewhen has he looked confused.
@@timesquare4282 The other 4 times he threw 5 TDs - super confused....
Lamar's been dealing from the pocket - he never been confused, he's been agitated with his WRs for so long were bottom ranked in separation and top ranked for drops.
He don't have to pray for something to open anymore. Everyone else doing their jobs so now things look easier
Keyshawn is right tho. Lamar been here for a while. It's the environment that's changing
This is by far the best version of Lamar Jackson. He finally has a good weapons to throw it too and has the best RB he ever had in Derrick Henry which also benefits from playing for the Ravens. Zay and Batmen are able to get open because of the running game and the threat of Lamar doing both at an elite level.
To me it’s the face that he’s finally consistently completing accurate passes from the pocket …. In consecutive games … yeah he’s on another level
@@justicestyleshis passes were to very wide open receivers 😂 this is all fine cause when Henry can’t run when a good defense stacks the box in the playoffs and puts A qb spy on Lamar he cannot complete a tight window throw to save his life
@@Sperry778yeah that god his receivers can finally get open sure beats throwing to demarcus robinson and devin duvernay all game
@@Sperry778First of all, Lamar's throws were not just to a bunch of open receivers and he has thrown in past games and threw last night to several players that were defended last night and completed those passes. So your statement is factually false.
@@Sperry778 Every QB has open passes aka “layups”! The tape shows tight window throws and dots along with it!
In the playoffs, we have to see if LJ can get out his own way. All that stacked box and spying sounds good for amateur talk.
This team specifically is a mismatch long as they stay healthy.
KEY DAFUQ YOU TALKING ABOUT!
he's a clown analyst
Straight nonsense
RIGHT
The guy who played in the league has the worst take. 😂😂
Lmmfao right!
Keyshawn crazy...He's a better all around qb than 2019.
fr. eye test is improved. lamars developed his deep pass that wasnt there outisde of the occasional post route. the stats are on pace for career highs. crazy to think after 2 mvps lamar is still finding his ceiling
For sure he is, hes even completing passes at a higher percentage. He way above 2019 Lamar in my opinion
I mean we all have opinions!
What key is coming from is maybe to fans like you who always pushed the he can't throw narrative.
But to real lamar fans as key mentioned that 2019 vs rams Monday night 5tds0int game to me was better than last night.
@@King_Solomon33 yea he's maturing. Sometimes it takes young QBs longer to mature but lamar is right on pace.
@@LamarWorld-m5this first game in 2019!he also had 5 td and a perfect passer rating against the dolphins
...this is the best version because Lamar is not running for his life on every play, and thats due to having a 100+ yard running back...LAMAR IS CALMER AND MORE DECISIVE WITH HIS DECISION MAKING.
You are 100% correct & I never looked at it that way 💜🖤💜🖤💜🐦⬛✌🏾
Also having a better offense of line that can give him time to throw
Lamar had a great oline last season and the season before he’s not a winner and never has been a winner
@@DannyMiller-e7l it hurts so bad don't it kid? 😆 every week you have to watch Lamar win and endure another 6 days of the media talking about how great #8 is 😆
As a Ravens fan we say the Chiefs are playing bad but let’s make it clear their defense is playing lights out and our defense has been terrible
And the chiefs have a switch they hit in the playoffs..
@@bcamm3100we have to wait, it's not guaranteed. New season and many new players....you need a lot of luck in football, if it was like the NBA ravens would easily win the Superbowl....one game knockout doesn't really prove the best.
Dude they can't win a single game this year without the refs helping them and if it weren't for that they'd be winless. Mahomes leads in interceptions I guarantee if the refs called there games the same as everyone else the chiefs would be winless
and the chiefs have the refs.
@@bradorem121 Mahomes got punched in throat right in front of ref no flag kinda blows ref theory up 😂😂😂😂
Lamar has really become a pocket passer who sees the pocket collapse and all of a sudden he may as well be a top shelf RB. You can say hed be a great RB, but recognize he is an elite passer who can run that well. Hes not looking for rush yards anymore, but he will still find them. He's looking for recievers and taking what the defense gives him and he isnt missing right now!
key that slight tick up was 30 yards not 20 🤨 come on man 😂😂
he's a clown analyst.
Yeah on pace for 400 more yards “a slight difference”
He threw me off with that
@@sierrasymone7590 whhhhhhhuuuuuuttttt?
Key never answers a question.
Goes into a whole entire story ..SMH...Even Joy is looking at him like DAFUQ you talking about..
He always thinks he right on everything
Keyshawn is saying 20 plus yards extra a game is a minimal change, but he’s acting as if he was the 30th ranked quarterback in the league last year. That’s not that much if he was ranked dead last year with a ton of room for improvement but the guy is the reigning NFL MVP!! I am sorry, Keshawn has no business talking sports.
Ravens are legit!!! Baker will be fine. He's coming into his own and mature now. Love watching both those guys play
Jackson and baker are both studs
Lamar Jackson lost to tannehil and the 9-7 titans in playoffs as a 14-2 1 seed Lamar will never be a winner
@@DannyMiller-e7l😂 never seen a real hater until now
this IS NOT the best version of Lamar...this is Lamar being Lamar...this is THE BEST offensive system he's had to play under. imo 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly . These media people never believed in Lamar . They hanging onto whatever they can to keep the credibility. He’s been throwing in the pocket at an elite level ever since he came back from injury .
@@lujones9961 ...its as if no one remembers him throwing 5 TDs against miami game1 year 2. 🤷🏾♂️
By far the best version, you wanna compare stats? Check the stats for Lamar against pressure.It's no secret over the years Lamar has struggled against the blitz, this year against the blitz, Lamar has been a masterclass and really making defenses pay when they send pressure, and in my opinion, this year he is just seeing the field much much better in the passing game. This is Lamars best version by far
It’s really no different in Lamar except a competent OC, good wrs and a great rb. He older so he’s experienced more. He was ready last season, but unfortunately Harbs is our coach. This year he will win it in spite of Harbs because they actually have 2 people in the backfield that the defense has to account for
I think it started last year under Monken he's built an offense with designed answers for blitzes and Lamar and the offense have executed them perfectly
Scored 7 points on the opening drive against the Chiefs. And only 13 points in the ensuing 55 minutes of the game. No version of Jackson works against the Chiefs. 😎😎😎
Yes and you have to watch the games to see this. People look at the stats and the scores and try to discredit him. I know numbers don’t lie but the tape don’t either.
@@josephhandy8767Lamar should lock harbs in his office come playoff time.
I'm a steelers fan and Lamar has been amazing this season. He will probably get mvp this season if he keeps this up. Give that man his flowers. That is coming from someone who hates Baltimore but respect them
I bleed black n purple n I feel tha same way bout wht ur sayn n can't stand the Steelers but what's right is right and I'm giving you respect as well for wht you're saying cuz it's the truth well as the mutual respect for the teams that we love !!! 💜💯✊
As a ravens fan 🤝
@youngshamrock7258 I cant wait for the ravens steelers game. It's always a brawl no matter what records are and they at the top of the afc north right now too. That steelers d vs Lamar is going to be amazing
Derrick Henry Should Be Right Behind Lamar Jackson In MVP Race 💯
I enjoy hearing Key’s perspective. He thinks different.
1:46 It feel the same to you like it feel the same to us real fans who have been really watching every game. Lamar has always had a arm just no #1 WR. But let them outsiders keep talking down on Lamar.
Facts
EXACTLY
3:34 and lets not forget justice hill as a running back pass catcher.
Hes been amazing. Hes never really had a pass catching back that great
The big difference is pre-snap.
Lamar has total control of the protections and play calls now. Roman didn’t allow that, and last year he was just learning the Monken system.
He' s becoming more efficient. It looks like the game is continuing to slow down for him. He is turning into the QB that Steve Young was talking about last year. More efficient, More dangerous
Stop Lamar will never win on playoffs ever
@@DannyMiller-e7l😂😂😂
As a die hard Ravens fan, this is definitely the best version of Lamar we’ve seen yet because now he’s figured it out. This is the most lethal we’ve ever seen the pass game to complement the dynamic run game.
Week 1 the Ravens were figuring out how the Lamar/Henry combo was going to work.... it would be a different game tomorrow.
Ravens would smoke the chiefs if they play now
Week 1 the Chiefs defense dictated everything the Ravens could do.
@The-Heart-Will-Testify you're joking, right? Ravens had their best chance to beat the Chiefs last year in their house and failed. Even with the injuries the Chiefs would smoke them. The Ravens defense is absolutely horrible. Kareem Hunt would probably rush for 150 yards! And we won't even discuss what it will be like when Pacheco comes back from injury. The Ravens aren't a better team than the Chiefs.
@@The-Heart-Will-TestifyBut they would load up the box and make Lamar stand in the pocket.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mummm what do you think every team since week 3 has done? Load the box and you see Lamar throw TDs then Henry finish you
I like this speak a lot better with Michael Irvin rather than that other guy
Paul Pierce dude 😂
@@TherealShawnDiesalonly the NBA legend Paul Pierce.. AKA the other guy 😂
Yea Micheal Irvin is the most passionate, man in football and he is such a spectacle when he speaks , especially when he talks about his cowboys 😂, and his Miami hurricanes 😂😂😂, it’s must see tv with Micheal , I enjoy watching him very much
Well the other guy played basketball so he can’t get in-depth like Micheal and Keyshawn can
@@TherealShawnDiesalthat's Keyshawn Johnson not Paul Pierce Keyshawn was an NFL wide receiver in the 90s and early 2000s . He was the first overall selected in the draft in 95 or 96
What Keyshawn is saying is that Lamar has always been ballin out like this and I don’t disagree with him.
Just give the man his flowers 💐 Lamar he’s insane this year!
Thank you key Lamar has been doing this since college where he won a heisman… 50 percent of the nfl is the players you have and the other 50 percent is coaching.. there is a reason before Lamar the ravens hadn’t seen the playoffs in 5 years.. they staked it all on him and besides a superbowl they’ve Been more than successful
There is a reason Lamar choked every season in playoffs he’s a losing player and lacks the character and fortitude
@@DannyMiller-e7l lmfao you’re one of those whites your opinion matters little on Lamar you hills have eyes mf hate him because he represents the end of white QBs now get lost little white boy
Lamar has not reached his full potential yet.😂😂😂❤
That's scary
He´s becoming super sayan 2x😂
The significance for tampa was they haven't beaten the ravens since 2002!
Derrick Henry not even being used to his full potential and he putting up numbers crown the king Henry is mvp
Key’s missing the control at the line of scrimmage now that Lamar now has all the controls of the offense
My Boy Key working hard to make this point. 🤣🤣🤣
As a Ravens fan, i have no shame in saying we are not the best team in the AFC. If the team that is 6-0 beat you, you aren't number 1. IT doesn't matter how well you look on paper, the King is the King. To be the best, we gotta beat the best.
FOCUS!
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Exactly he can’t win against patty
It just looks easier this year. Spreading the ball around to different receivers, very difficult for defenses to game plan against him now
Y'all forgetting about Marlon Humphrey got hurt. So we was on the same plane field... They top wr out our top cb out
And with those throws Baker was throwing after Marlo went out, would've gotten him at least 1 more pick!!
Key i feel you. Lamar been that guy. He just more experienced, and hungrier.
He ain’t been that guy in the playoffs
AFC champions if zay didn’t fumble we would have win the Super Bowl we’ll get there this year
Derrick Henry would look like a Bullet Train coming at you 😱
Keyshawn’s not crazy. He just has no doubt about the kind of player he is. That’s all and I get it. This is the best version but I understand being somewhat used to this level of play.
Y’all said if Allen beats Lamar he is mvp
Y’all said if Daniel’s beats Lamar he is mvp
Y’all said if dak beats Lamar he is mvp
Y’all said if baker beats Lamar he is mvp
Give Lamar his flowers he is the face of the league he is who kids want to be. Lamar is the mvp
The reason Lamar and the Ravens don't have a SB ring yet is because they never trusted him to call for play changes based on what he saw on the field as the games progressed!!! Key is right-- it is the same Lamar, only now he is trusted with the key to the Bank!!! it will be interesting now!!! Baker has to produce without weapons!!! Lamar did it for 5 years and was in the playoff every year he has been playing!! This is the time for Baker to prove who he is and that he is as good as Lamar Jackson!!! Not going to happen but he is welcome to try!!!
It’s going to come down to Baker’s decision making in the game.
wait to mitchell come back 3 headed monster
I hope they dont let that mix everything up. This team is rolling and he will be an awesome addition, just want to see them ease him in right
@@gDiniM Henry probably wont see any difference. Its Hill who's gonna lose touches. As long as Mitchell comes in as comparable to Hill with them dump passes and can get around the edge on rushes we'll be good. If he's a true improvement over Hill... dear God help the NFL
@louistate3774 I think it would be bad to replace hill with him. Justice Hill is the most undervalued player on the roster by far. Mitchell and Henry need to be juggled for the run game with Hill in on 3rd downs mostly for the pass threat. He is Lamars bailout and it works constantly lmao its so funny to watch.
@@gDiniMMitchell is far better than hill
@chriswillis7315 I dont care about that. Hill is an invaluable depth piece that should be in on the majority of pass plays. Mitchell is a speedy back and he will be great to have back, but he should have a limited role for a while.
Every quarterback, especially Patrick Mahomes, throw touchdown passes on screens!!!!!
Literally when you watch a chiefs game I feel like all their biggest plays are off of screens because they aren’t as talented on receivers so they have to scheme for their receivers. If you gonna take it out for Lamar you gotta take it out for everyone else
Bucs got shellshocked when Mike Evans went down. Long enough for the Ravens to secure the W.
Dude talking about the stats and not the eye test! has he even been watching the games or just checking the box scores 🙄
The 2019 was an empty calories version…this version has a more mature leading the division feel!
This is facts. Lamar has been a great qb. He has another superstar that helps open up the field
What are you talking about Key?!?!
LJ is playing back yard football. He's having fun. He's the best player on the field 💯
Facts!!
Lamar got a real Offensive Coordinator or Offensive Coach that understands you need wide receivers and real offensive play schemes.
Patrick mahomes, burrow, Jalen hurts, Goff, Tua, Purdy are giving the weapons to play not just force them to do the heavy lifting
Baker throws more INT than Touchdowns
Baker still allows his eagerness take him out of the game,it showed when in the red zone, I believe it was 1st and goal and like he was dancing in fire 🔥 through the interception!! Instead of staying relaxed knowing he has 3 downs to score. Why spaz out!! Toss it out the end zone!! Instead, like when he was in Cleveland and the Rams, he spaz’s out. If he can ever get rid of that fault of his, he’s only destined to be a good QB instead of a top 10 franchise QB. Majority of QB’s in the league do the same. exact thing. He was doing great until that happened and then his focus went totally out the window.
5:43 is wild
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Craaaazy wild
I mean, the AFC North didn't turn out to be all that great, either. Pittsburgh's schedule is insane over the last 9 games, they have all their divisional games, the Commanders, the Eagles, and the Chiefs, along with three games in 10 days, and three games in 9 days, or something like that, Cleveland basically ruined their own chances, and the Bengals offended some sort of ancient deity or something.
There’s no comparison between divisions. When AFC North teams play each other, they knock each other out regardless of what their record is.
Mike, the Ravens organization, decided not to play any starters in the preseason sooooo those first 2 games were like preseason games for the starters. You guys always talk about the past but fail to mention key facts.
I watched Lamar last night, and it wasn’t about his stats, but his posse in the pocket and not looking to run at the first sight.
🤣🤣🤣Michael Irvin 50/60 years old trying to twist up.
I thought I was the only one who was looking at his head like wtf??? 😂😂😂😂
@@KayDSavage-dy6of 😂yea he tweaking like af. Done lost his everlasting mind 😂
you analysts got to remember the most important thing here, all these other Superstar quarterbacks have mad weapons, this is the first time we've had not had an elite player on offense next to the mall besides Mark Andrews... Not to mention we don't even have any elite receivers.. we don't have a jamarr Chase like Joe burrows we don't have stefon diggs like CJ Stroud we don't have a household name at wide receiver like all these other Superstar quarterbacks do
Lamar growing very season and he got more weapons around him
Lamar and D. Henry may be 1a and 1b for MVP at this point.
Michael is spot on about baker without Evans
Bro the Lamar hate needs to be a crime like get off his meat bro
Baker will be alright. They’ve got a good young receiver core and you seen both Otton and mcmillan step way up after Evan’s went down and obviously Godwin is one of a kind but others can be also
Great discussion thanks...
I agree with Key. I think what it is, Lamar. Jackson is so shockingly good, and it's unbelievable. The stuff that he's doing, it seems as if he's getting better, but in reality he has been doing this all along. Yes, he's getting better reading the field. I'll give him that, but he's so explosive, and it's just unbelievable, I think. It appears as if he's doing something that he's never done.
LAMAR GOING CRAZY
And Dallas thought they’d be better not to pay Derrick Henry.. 👍🏼 Good job Jerry ! Dak got $60 million per year.. Mann he should’ve wanted to give 10 of that a year to Derrick Henry smh decisions decisions 🤷🏽♂️
Could've have had paid Henry even if dak got paid 60 mil. Jerry just didn't want him.
Once I heard Keshawn say “screens” I started hitting the “skip 10”
Well Joy thanks for being unbiased. It is hard for Lamar and the Raven’s to get credit because basically the Chiefs defensive coach is the reason Lamar had not been successful. The first game the Ravens were still finding their identity Lamar said the game is slowing down for him, and that is why Lamar has gotten better! You will see keep watching the Raven’s. Hopefully the defense will come together this NFL season to help their transition . You will see this year when the Raven’s win period! One thing you all must remember things change they are not New England but you will see.
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How fitting Acho isn't there 😂
How would he if he´s on the FACILITY
Joys sports Journalism is always honest and unbiased
Did he discount Baker Mayfield, screens and short passes is his entire game and then boom deep ball!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
New England all over again is the perfect statement Key!!!!
This is the best version of the Ravens and Harbs since Lamar has been with the Ravens. Key has it right, Lamar is the same, the tools around him and the game management in the last 3 games has been better.
greg roman definitely was our weakness
And Harbaugh
And the refs
To answer Keyshaun! Imagine fighting off a 300 lbs linemen, then a 300lb FB, then having to catch a 250+lbs rb or see said running back running towards you.
she's awesome!
How is 8 tds to 15 tds a “slight tick up” 😅
How the F is 29 yards, 4 TD's a "slight tick up"?????
11 TD's and then 15 TD's is close to a 40% increase! 29 yards/game is an increase with more then 10%....neither of those is "slight"
the stats are similar...but the path to success is very different. Lamar was constantly asked to be superman prior to this version of the offense. So the results i agree are similar but this is a far more sustainable version of Lamar and the Ravens offense.
Keyshawn this version of Lamar Jackson is reading the coverages and making changes to the play that was called upstairs. He's changing the plays at the los and throwing more accurately. Yes! This is the best so far.
Key is right Lamar has always been amazing. I will say now he’s getting better at knowing when to run and the coaches are calling less called runs so he can pick his spots to run. His weapons are better than they’ve ever been so it looks better
Lamar gets dump passes for TDs and it's the WRs getting all the credit. Tom Brady makes dump passes for TDs and he's the GOAT...
Lamar doesn't have 10 Super Bowl appearances, Superbowl wins with two different organizations, multiple all-time great comebacks against elite teams in big games and he can't beat Mahomes, which Brady did. so, there's that. Plus, Lamar has two MVPs so where isn't he getting credit?
How does his WRs get all the credit when people are saying he doesn't/didn't have any WRs?
MVP or no MVP, Lamar is must watch TV. When you love the game you want the best players to play and play well. Lamar does that more often that not. post season success has eluded him so far but he’s trying and trying hard. Can’t fault his dedication to getting better.
Lamar is at his best when a good defense puts a spy on him and stacks the box like the chiefs last year
I still think 2019 is the best version. Maybe just maybe he wasn’t as good a passer but good lord his running ability in 2019 was uunnnnnreal. With age you slow down and even still now he’s by far more athletic than almost anyone else on the field this Lamar isn’t the runner he used to be
Key is just looking for a reason to say no. Because they can't have everybody on the panel saying the same thing. The fact that Lamar Jackson has been this good in two previous seasons doesn't mean that this isn't the best version of him. All three of them are the best version. Again, this is what he looks like when he's playing at his best. He can do that more than once. We say that about other QBs all the time
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It’s really not a new Version he just has MORE playmakers and he finally got a SUPERSTAR instead of old players on their last leg. Henry might be old in football years but he ain’t on his last leg!
In regards to the week, one loss to the Chiefs. The ravens starters do not take a snap all preseason. That was their first preseason game. Additionally, three out of five starters on the offensive line were new. That was their first real game action together. It took them three weeks of shuffling players in and out of different positions to finally figure out the correct combination of lineman.since then, they have not lost. If the ravens and Chiefs played again today, the ravens would dominate them.
They also lost to the raiders 😂
Michael Irvin said it would take a year to for him to thrive in the new l offensive coordinator system
It's hard to listen to this....but I'm rooting for y'all.
LAMARVELOUS!! GO FLOCK!! No matter how great lamar plays, its always a group of haters saying "but what about the playoffs" is he the only QB in the league without a SB?? If josh allen or purdy or dak or herbert did this nobody would have said that. None of these other good QBs have a SB ring so miss me with the playoff talk. Tell josh allen to get it done in the playoffs and not against wildcard opponents since thats where most of his wins comes from, tell dak to get it done, yell the 49ers to stop choking in the SB, tell all these other QBs to get it done in the playoffs too because the only one thats doing it is mahomes. Im tired of everybody acting like lamar the only QB with something to prove. They ALL GOT SOMETHING TO PROVE!! THEY ALL KEEP CHOKING ONE POINT OR ANOTHER IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE. A choke job is a choke job. Yall just salty lamar about to win yet another mvp and yall have nothing else to say. All yall can say is about the playoffs. What else can yall bring up? 😂😂😂 cant argue stats this year. His passing stats is better than your favorite QB. Keep hating!
If Lamar had weapons the first 4 years of his career he would have been won a Super Bowl or went to a super Bowl all facts ....lamar much better than mahomes ..
Not really and that’s no disrespect to Lamar, but he didn’t have the clutch gene in him at that point in time.
Stop it Lamar had the number 1 defense last year and still lost
Keyshawn Johnson is right it's helps that Lamar Jackson has a real offensive coordinator and so good weapons.
Keyshawn had to be a lil high on this segment 😂😂💯
I know Joy wish she was still with her original cast of guys . Key is hard to work with sometimes I can tell and he’s a very knowledgeable guy of football. I just think his takes and arguments are a little over excessive. I don’t know if he’s complimenting Lamar or downplaying his growth
Numbers say it all. Not much change IMO. But if you had to ask for a 'best' version, yeah can argue that too.
What is find funny is, 'best' version is now he's running less. The irony!