@Roy Ogden thanks for the kind comment. No dumb questions here. If you don't know, just ask. I think you are referring to the panel inside the house. On mine the wires were all mixed on the ground bus bar. If you are referring to the outside panel for the service entrance I would contact your local code enforcement. Grounding rules vary greatly from one location to another. I was required to bond the neutral bus bar in the outside panel to the frame of the panel with a long green screw. I hope his helps. ~Mr. C.
I am curious, is the outside panel at the meter base considered the main panel and the inside panel considered a sub panel or are they both main panels?
Cole Cameron you pose an excellent question. I would consider both of them main panels because the mobile home panel is connected to feed through lugs and not a separate breaker like a sub panel would be. Just to clarify I was not required to install a breaker box at the meter base. The only requirement is to have a disconnect for the mobile home panel located at the meter base. With this arrangement the mobile home panel would be the main panel. I could also see an argument for the mobile home panel in my installation would be considered a sub panel. If another commenter has more information I welcome your input. Thanks for asking a great question! ~Mr. C.
@@NaturesCadenceFarm I have a similar question. I just had service upgraded on my house. Local code, starting this year, now requires an outside disconnect for emergency services. So they installed a “trailer panel” on the side of my house. It has a meter that goes to a panel, with a pass through out the bottom that feeds the inside panel. The inside panel has neutrals and grounds together, with no ground wire. The outside panels is the panel that is tied to the ground rod. Is this correct?
@countryascanb I have seen them within arms length and like mine 100 feet away. I would check with your local code enforcement to ensure what you are planning is going to be acceptable. Excellent question! ~Mr. C.
Looking good! You certainly seem to do a professional job and I can't imagine you'll have any problems with passing the inspection and you can finally power up your mobile home! From what I recall from my high school physics I thought aluminum wasn't nearly as conductive as copper so I'm curious about the aluminum cabling. Is it to reduce the weight of the cables, or to reduce costs, or an availability thing, or a combination of these, or something else perhaps? Anyway, thanks for another great video and good luck with your inspection! :)
Simon B you are correct, aluminum wire is not as conductive as copper. Generally if aluminum is used it needs to be two sizes larger to handle the same current as copper. Aluminum wire is used here in the states (I am not sure about over seas) as residential service entrance wire very regularly. The benefit is (as you stated in the original comment) PRICE. Aluminum costs half as much as copper and if installed properly will provide years of reliable service... pun intended. Thanks for the encouragement! ~Mr. C.
Is it a correct assumption that N & G are bonded outside in the panel, and not bonded in the trailer? Also, did you add a ground from the meter socket to the exterior panel, or are you counting on the nipple to be the ground? Respectfully, Kevin
Kevin Coop yes they are bonded in the outside panel but the panel was already bonded in the trailer so I left it, but check with your local code enforcement for your bonding requirements. There was no requirement for a ground wire from the meter to the outside panel. With the neutral wire connected to both the meter base and breaker panel the enclosures are bonded to the neutral and everything is good to go. Again double check with your local codes. Hope this helps. Thanks for asking. ~Mr. C
Nature's Cadence Farm The neutral to ground bond should only be made at one location. This location is at the panel outside. You should remove the bonding jumper in the trailer, and there should be separate ground only bar in the sub panel. Best wishes.
Jose Martin sounds like a loose connection that got disturbed during the install. You might need some help from an electrician that can get in there and break it down and figure it out. Good Luck. ~ Mr. C.
@OB TV I am using 4/0-4/0-4/0-2/0 Aluminum Mobile Home Feeder Cable. See below for a link. Thanks for watching and asking. ~Mr. C. Mobile Home Feeder Cable: amzn.to/3uy0MJe
G VanGaya I am not sure if it will fit. From what you are describing I would say yes. A call to Square D Technical Support ( 1-877-342-5173 ) might be the best bet for an exact answer. ~Mr. C.
Perry here is a link to the exact panel I used. Square D 200 AMP Feed through breaker box: amzn.to/3ebFiIN Please check the description for other items that were used for the installation. Thanks for watching. ~Mr. C.
Darrel White I landed in onto the grounded bus bar but not all localities follow the same guidelines. I would check with your local code authority for specifics to your location. Thanks for watching! ~Mr. C.
Ronald Kovacs mobile homes are required to have the meter base and disconnect mounted on a pole and board remotely from the structure. The feeder cable is then direct buried to go under the mobile home and feed the breaker box. Mobile home service entrance cable is designed to be direct burial. A house has the meter base mounted to the structure and the feeder is ran through the side of the house and landed into the breaker box. House service entrance cable is designed to be installed in and on the structure and not buried. Hope this helps. Thanks for asking and watching! ~Mr. C.
Ben Talley I would suggest contacting your local code enforcement for more information regarding grounding differences in dwelling units. I have found in my experiences even adjacent localities can, and often do have differing requirements. Thanks for watching. ~ Mr. C.
extremepianos the cable is only in conduit as it leaves the outdoor breaker box goes under the driveway and as it goes into the mobile home. Cable shall be protected as it enters and leaves the ground per 300.5 (D) (1) 2014 NEC. My local authority having jurisdiction required me to place the cable in conduit under the driveway although not required if minimum cover requirements are met. The reasoning behind this is the high probability of heavy equipment due to farming operations. Thanks for watching and commenting! ~Mr. C.
Hi. I was and the need to learn more about the electrician work to do hooks into the panels,and thanks to your videos I learn more. I love your videos
Uziel Dixon you are welcome. Thank you for letting us know. ~Mr. C.
Can you please make another video on this where you can see inside the breaker box thanks
Priscilla Bryant I will see what I can do. ~Mr. C.
Nice show
Naqash Malik thank you for the kind comment, it really means a lot to us! ~Mr. C.
Enjoy your videos bro but in a trailer house installation where are the grounds and neutrals separated ? If you don't mind dumb questions.
@Roy Ogden thanks for the kind comment. No dumb questions here. If you don't know, just ask. I think you are referring to the panel inside the house. On mine the wires were all mixed on the ground bus bar. If you are referring to the outside panel for the service entrance I would contact your local code enforcement. Grounding rules vary greatly from one location to another. I was required to bond the neutral bus bar in the outside panel to the frame of the panel with a long green screw. I hope his helps. ~Mr. C.
@@NaturesCadenceFarm Thanks for the reply sir it helped a bunch. Thank you very much.
I am curious, is the outside panel at the meter base considered the main panel and the inside panel considered a sub panel or are they both main panels?
Cole Cameron you pose an excellent question. I would consider both of them main panels because the mobile home panel is connected to feed through lugs and not a separate breaker like a sub panel would be. Just to clarify I was not required to install a breaker box at the meter base. The only requirement is to have a disconnect for the mobile home panel located at the meter base. With this arrangement the mobile home panel would be the main panel. I could also see an argument for the mobile home panel in my installation would be considered a sub panel. If another commenter has more information I welcome your input. Thanks for asking a great question! ~Mr. C.
@@NaturesCadenceFarm I have a similar question. I just had service upgraded on my house. Local code, starting this year, now requires an outside disconnect for emergency services.
So they installed a “trailer panel” on the side of my house. It has a meter that goes to a panel, with a pass through out the bottom that feeds the inside panel.
The inside panel has neutrals and grounds together, with no ground wire.
The outside panels is the panel that is tied to the ground rod.
Is this correct?
How far does the meter base and disconnect box supposed to be from the mobile home?
@countryascanb I have seen them within arms length and like mine 100 feet away. I would check with your local code enforcement to ensure what you are planning is going to be acceptable. Excellent question! ~Mr. C.
Looking good! You certainly seem to do a professional job and I can't imagine you'll have any problems with passing the inspection and you can finally power up your mobile home! From what I recall from my high school physics I thought aluminum wasn't nearly as conductive as copper so I'm curious about the aluminum cabling. Is it to reduce the weight of the cables, or to reduce costs, or an availability thing, or a combination of these, or something else perhaps? Anyway, thanks for another great video and good luck with your inspection! :)
Simon B you are correct, aluminum wire is not as conductive as copper. Generally if aluminum is used it needs to be two sizes larger to handle the same current as copper. Aluminum wire is used here in the states (I am not sure about over seas) as residential service entrance wire very regularly. The benefit is (as you stated in the original comment) PRICE. Aluminum costs half as much as copper and if installed properly will provide years of reliable service... pun intended. Thanks for the encouragement! ~Mr. C.
Is it a correct assumption that N & G are bonded outside in the panel, and not bonded in the trailer? Also, did you add a ground from the meter socket to the exterior panel, or are you counting on the nipple to be the ground? Respectfully, Kevin
Kevin Coop yes they are bonded in the outside panel but the panel was already bonded in the trailer so I left it, but check with your local code enforcement for your bonding requirements. There was no requirement for a ground wire from the meter to the outside panel. With the neutral wire connected to both the meter base and breaker panel the enclosures are bonded to the neutral and everything is good to go. Again double check with your local codes. Hope this helps. Thanks for asking. ~Mr. C
Nature's Cadence Farm The neutral to ground bond should only be made at one location. This location is at the panel outside. You should remove the bonding jumper in the trailer, and there should be separate ground only bar in the sub panel. Best wishes.
Why no link to part1 in the description
notusedexer thanks for bringing that to my attention, it must have been an oversight on my part. I have added links in both descriptions. ~Mr. C.
Hello I have a double wide and I put new led light and ceiling fans. But now I don’t have power in half of the house. Do you know what’s the problem
Jose Martin sounds like a loose connection that got disturbed during the install. You might need some help from an electrician that can get in there and break it down and figure it out. Good Luck. ~ Mr. C.
What gauge wire are you using?
@OB TV I am using 4/0-4/0-4/0-2/0 Aluminum Mobile Home Feeder Cable. See below for a link. Thanks for watching and asking. ~Mr. C.
Mobile Home Feeder Cable: amzn.to/3uy0MJe
Can I get 212 Kcmil 4/0 cable into a 200 kcmil 100 amp SquareD breaker lug?
G VanGaya I am not sure if it will fit. From what you are describing I would say yes. A call to Square D Technical Support ( 1-877-342-5173 ) might be the best bet for an exact answer. ~Mr. C.
Is this 200 amp service right
Priscilla Bryant yes both panels are rated at 200 amp. Thanks for asking and watching! ~Mr. C.
What model disconnect/breaker box did you use outside?
Perry here is a link to the exact panel I used.
Square D 200 AMP Feed through breaker box: amzn.to/3ebFiIN
Please check the description for other items that were used for the installation. Thanks for watching. ~Mr. C.
hey where does the green go inside the house panel?
Darrel White I landed in onto the grounded bus bar but not all localities follow the same guidelines. I would check with your local code authority for specifics to your location. Thanks for watching! ~Mr. C.
Why is mobile home feeder cable different from that used in a permanent structure?
Ronald Kovacs mobile homes are required to have the meter base and disconnect mounted on a pole and board remotely from the structure. The feeder cable is then direct buried to go under the mobile home and feed the breaker box. Mobile home service entrance cable is designed to be direct burial. A house has the meter base mounted to the structure and the feeder is ran through the side of the house and landed into the breaker box. House service entrance cable is designed to be installed in and on the structure and not buried. Hope this helps. Thanks for asking and watching! ~Mr. C.
@@NaturesCadenceFarm yes, thank you so much.
ANY ONE WHO CAN READ COULD PRETTY MUCH FIGURE THIS OUT WHAT ABOUT THE GROUNDING DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND MOBILE HOMES
Ben Talley I would suggest contacting your local code enforcement for more information regarding grounding differences in dwelling units. I have found in my experiences even adjacent localities can, and often do have differing requirements. Thanks for watching. ~ Mr. C.
URD I hope you didn’t put that in pipe Only rated for direct burial
extremepianos the cable is only in conduit as it leaves the outdoor breaker box goes under the driveway and as it goes into the mobile home. Cable shall be protected as it enters and leaves the ground per 300.5 (D) (1) 2014 NEC. My local authority having jurisdiction required me to place the cable in conduit under the driveway although not required if minimum cover requirements are met. The reasoning behind this is the high probability of heavy equipment due to farming operations. Thanks for watching and commenting! ~Mr. C.
Maibe if you used a light i could see better!
Disco disco good good ha ha, that's funny. ~Mr. C.