Jace using the term mongrels was his misstep. I feel like most reactors don’t really care what he had to say after that. Jace’s fear is legitimate though and I think it’s going to come into play later. What will stop someone like Hugh from deciding they are more worthy of the crown and taking Jace out with Vermithor?
Exactly! Almost every reactor I've seen has gotten instantly mad with him and then gone on to not understand why he's so bothered in the first place. Once you understand his point you realise he's 100% valid to be upset and concerned about it all. The issue was having him insult the others first. If the writers wanted the audience to fully sympathise with him, it was a weird move.
Makes sense. Hugh is the grandson of King Jaehaerys, looks the part and-like you said-has a huge dragon. I'm sure many of the lords who never liked Rhaenyra as heir & have whispered about hers over the years wouldn't take much persuasion. Rhaenyra's choice does seem like the only way, short-term, but in the long it could destroy her legacy anyway...
I think he's just projecting his insecurities. He's dealing with a lot of stress, grief, social stigma, and he's 15 year old serving as heir to the throne, war general, air force pilot, diplomat, and support for his mom who is also dealing with all the same shit. Living in a system far more brutal and classist compared to our own. To judge him and his choice of words by the standards of modern day adults who never had to deal with any of it is just absurd.
I love Oscar Tully. He was saying to Daemon in a sly way, follow my lead and take your licks if you want the River Lords to give you their men. At the same time he gained the respect of the River Lords.
@Da Kids React @19:15 you missed Hugh's relationship to House Targaryen. Hugh's mother is Princess Saera, 9th & youngest child of King Jahaerys I the Conciliator (who was Vermithor's only previous rider). THAT'S why Vermithor (the 2nd BIGGEST dragon in Westeros & the only team Black dragon size in Vaghar's weight class) submitted to Hugh. *Princess Saera was the pure blood sister to Baelon, who is Jahaerhys I son/heir. And so FATHER to Viscerys and Daemon. That makes Hugh, King Viscerys and Prince Daemon FIRST COUSINS. And Princess Saera is their AUNT by blood. Which means Hugh is Queen Rhaenyra's cousin* Also had his daughter lived, she would've been second cousins with Prince Jace and Rhaenyra's younger children by Daemon.
Hugh Hammer's mother was Saera Targaryen, the daughter of King Jaehaerys (the conciliator). She was wild and slept with men before she could be married off. The King could not control her, so he disowned Saera, and she ran away and went to a pleasure house in Essos, I believe. Hugh ends up claiming Virmithor, the same Dragon King Jaehaerys rode.
@@naunetraelife1209 thanks for the context on her! We were super interested in her story. My guy Hugh has proven himself to be a true Targaryen, respect to that man!
@@billbliss1518in the lore, Seara had three bastard sons. She sent them to Kings Landing to press for her claim. And one of them was said to be the spitting image of King Jahearys in his youth. The show will likely make Hugh be the son that’s the Jahearys doppelgänger.
@@DaKidsReact 2:19 mark - Rhaenyra isn't trying to be intimidating because she is The Queen. Any member of the "low born" public would have to bow to their ruler. For her to tell Addam to stand is quite the opposite. If she wanted to be intimidating, she would have not given him the order to stand on his feet but rather stay on bent knee & continue to bow to her. Also,. don't forget the Seasmoke used to be Laenor's ride & he was married to Rhaenyra for many years before his faked death. But now that Seasmoke has chosen Aadam, it means that Laenor has perished somehow because the bond only breaks upon the death of the rider. That is why Vermithor & Silverwing no longer have riders after King Jaeherys & Queen Alysanne passed away. They were the two dragons that Cregan Stark mentioned in episode 1, when he told Jace about how they refused to fly beyond The Wall. Silverwing is the mother of Syrax. FYI - it is very likely that Coryls has some Targaryen blood in his ancestry. Back in Old Valyria & also after Ageon's conquest of Westeros, both houses of Velaryon & Targaryen intermingled with each other through marriages & affairs. Just because you have Targaryen blood doesn't automatically mean you are capable or worthy to be a dragonrider. Here's the status of dragon count so far. The Greens have 3 that are able to fight - Vhagar, Dreamfyre, & Tessarion. Sunfyre is still injured & unable to fly. While The Blacks have Syrax, Vermax, Moondancer, Seasmoke, Vermithor, Silverwing, Caraxes, & maybe Sheep Stealer (if Rhaena is able to claim it).
I loved the difference in how the two claim their dragons Hugh: shows courage and fearlessness, defending a helpless girl Ulf: " BBBAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHH!!!!!!! *pant*gasp*pant* AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! TRIPS!"
Silverwing is the most docile and friendly dragon even to strangers. The lover/mate of vermithor. 😍 Just like Queen Alysanne and King Jahaerys I are the old riders, and were married as well. I believe thats daemons and viserys grand parents. The old king in episode 1 season 1. Silverwing is also syrax’s mother.
18:58 - Hugh's mother was Princess Saera Targaryen, she was not a bastard. She was disowned by her father, King Jaeherys. She was Baelon's sister, which makes her Daemon & Viserys' aunt. Hugh is their cousin. FYI - there were 45 people who answered Rhaenyra's call for new dragon riders. Some were real Targaryen bastards & others were just lying about their ancestry.
Hughs mom is saera targaryen aunt to viserys and daemon. She was disowned by the king for sleeping around and then she went to essos and opened a brothel
Hugh's mom is implied to be Saera Targaryen, a notoriously rebellious and “free-spirited” princess. She was the daughter of King Jaehaerys I, and the sister to Baelon Targaryen (Viserys's and Daemon's father) and Aemon Targaryen (Rhaenys’s father). Hugh is Rhaenys, Viserys and Daemon's cousin, while Ulf is Viserys and Daemon’s bastard half-brother.
I love Ser Simon. He didn’t ask for any of this. He’s just trying to live and survive Daemon’s crazy ass. I hope Rhaena claims the wild dragon in the Vale. This was a solid episode and I cannot wait for the finale!
I've fallen right in love with Silverwing. She's a smart-ass, she's sassy, and she's got a sense of humor. She's having fun booping her new boy onto his butt over and over, then flying him to King's Landing to taunt Vhagar. I'm claiming her. Any of y'all'll have to fight me for her.
King Jaehaerys (Daemon's Viserys' and Rhaenys' granddad) had a daughter named Saera. He sent her to the monastery to become a nun after finding out she's been sleeping around with three different guys. But she run away and lived her best life as s fancy hooker and eventually a madam and businesswoman. Refusing to present her case for succession of the iron throne, and stating she already built an empire of her own. I'm guessing they are going with her as Hugh's mom (in the books we don't know how exactly he is related to the main family)
19:00 - Hugh is the son of Princess Saera Targaryen, she wasn’t a bastard. She was one of the daughters of King Jaehaerys I but she ran away to the East to enjoy her freedom in her own way by becoming a W and running her own pleasure house.
Young Oscar Tully was the MVP of this episode!! I love how he shaded Daemon & still got his lords in order! I do think Daemon should’ve asked for him to be sent to wall tho😅 Cause I agreed with Blackwood Bracken chose green when his leige lord was Black so justice was done 🤷🏾♀️😂 Jace had every right to feel a way & confront Rhaenyra about putting bastards on dragons & how that can endanger him & his claim. Rhaenyra was wild af for sending them all in at once in the book they tried one by one & also on the wild dragons.
Dragon Tour. Black Team Queen Rhaenyra- Syrax King Consort Daemon- Caraxes Prince Jacaerys- Vermax Prince Joffrey- Tyraxes(young) Prince Aegon- Stormcloud(young) Lady Baela- Moondancer Addam of Hull- Seasmoke Hugh Hammer- Vermithor Ulf of White- Silverwing Green Team King Aegon ll- Sunfyre(crippled) Queen Helaena- Dreamfyre Prince Aemond- Vhagar Prince Daeron- Tessarion Princess Jaehaera- Morghul(young).
The whole Jace scene: I feel you all forget what highborn and lowborn means in this world. He may be a bastards, but he’s a highborn on both sides. He’s just as pure as Aegon and Aemond. They’re all half Targaryen. Alicent isn’t a Targaryen just like Ser Harwin Stong.
I think Jace issue was that the other bastards actually look Targaryen with their hair and all. Keep in mind he’s a teen so he might be thinking them grown Targaryen riders might challenge him for the throne.
Old king Jaehaerys & good queen Alysanne had 13 kids. Viserys & Daemon parents 2 of them. Rhaenys’s father was the heir & 1st born son, she was his only child. They had a daughter named princess Saera Targaryen who was a bit of a thot & he disowned her & she became a whore then a madam. That’s Hugh’s mother. The others died tragically & 1 was a septa & 1 a maester. Viserys’s 1st wife Queen Aemma’s mother was also one of their daughters she married the lord of the Vale & died having Aemma. That’s why there was a succession crisis between Rhaenys & Viserys the 1st born children of the 1st & 2nd sons. P.S- Silverwing is a she dragon her & Vermithor are a mated pair in the books the only mated pair is dragons in the lore
Does anyone else think that high Valerian sounds an awful lot like Italian and very astute of you guys to notice the Queen's hand maiden dressed in red. I noticed that but I don't think that the crowd did.
1. Rhaenyra is doing to Jace what her father did to her. She knows fat lot of good it does being named heir is when other Targaryens don’t want you to rule. She’s kicking the can down to road because it won’t be her problem down the road because she’ll be dead. It won’t matter to her. 2. Higgs mother was a legitimate Targaryen. Her name was Saera Targaryen. She was the sister of Viserys and Daemons parents. But she liked hooking up with men and she wasn’t subtle about it. She ends up running her own brothel. It’s actually amusing g because their father wouldn’t let her claim a dragon because she was a hoe. So her son claims her dads dragon😂
The next scene with Hugh literally proved Jace’s point. When he tells his wife “if I claim a dragon they’ll make you a lady” they’ll get that power and want more. Always do
True but in times like this I believe it’s valid to feel that type of way. Like this is a huge sacrifice you are making for a war you, personally, have no business being involved in. Jace was totally correct in his statement.
Jace has a right to be concerned his only proof of legitimacy is his dragon. Rhaenyra is thinking short term instead of the full picture when she dies what will happen if Hugh or Ulf decide they have bigger dragons and more Targaryen blood that they want the throne who is stopping them from starting a full out war with Jace over it especially with how many didn’t want Rhaenyra as Queen people who support them over Jace for that simple reason it would have been all for nothing.
Rhaneyra basically chose getting herself on the throne over her childrens future. All she cares about is the crown. I found this decision to be incredibly selfish and short sighted. I like Hugh though dudes a clear badass.
What has Jace done? My guy secured the North, the Vale and the Twins
Fr he has to be one of the most influential people in that story, and he did it without violence roo
Ulf showin his hood he got a dragon one of the funniest parts of this show no cap 😂
Would have been funnier if they intercut a reaction shot from the crowd in the tavern looking up at the sky
Right? Lol
"that's our boy!"😂
Uncle Ulf. Remember, he's Daemon's brother.
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Jace using the term mongrels was his misstep. I feel like most reactors don’t really care what he had to say after that. Jace’s fear is legitimate though and I think it’s going to come into play later. What will stop someone like Hugh from deciding they are more worthy of the crown and taking Jace out with Vermithor?
Exactly! Almost every reactor I've seen has gotten instantly mad with him and then gone on to not understand why he's so bothered in the first place. Once you understand his point you realise he's 100% valid to be upset and concerned about it all. The issue was having him insult the others first. If the writers wanted the audience to fully sympathise with him, it was a weird move.
Makes sense. Hugh is the grandson of King Jaehaerys, looks the part and-like you said-has a huge dragon. I'm sure many of the lords who never liked Rhaenyra as heir & have whispered about hers over the years wouldn't take much persuasion. Rhaenyra's choice does seem like the only way, short-term, but in the long it could destroy her legacy anyway...
I think he's just projecting his insecurities. He's dealing with a lot of stress, grief, social stigma, and he's 15 year old serving as heir to the throne, war general, air force pilot, diplomat, and support for his mom who is also dealing with all the same shit. Living in a system far more brutal and classist compared to our own. To judge him and his choice of words by the standards of modern day adults who never had to deal with any of it is just absurd.
The ones I saw didn't get mad at him
Especially all the bastard got bigger dragons than vermax or syrax😮💨
I love Oscar Tully. He was saying to Daemon in a sly way, follow my lead and take your licks if you want the River Lords to give you their men. At the same time he gained the respect of the River Lords.
@Da Kids React @19:15 you missed Hugh's relationship to House Targaryen. Hugh's mother is Princess Saera, 9th & youngest child of King Jahaerys I the Conciliator (who was Vermithor's only previous rider). THAT'S why Vermithor (the 2nd BIGGEST dragon in Westeros & the only team Black dragon size in Vaghar's weight class) submitted to Hugh. *Princess Saera was the pure blood sister to Baelon, who is Jahaerhys I son/heir. And so FATHER to Viscerys and Daemon. That makes Hugh, King Viscerys and Prince Daemon FIRST COUSINS. And Princess Saera is their AUNT by blood. Which means Hugh is Queen Rhaenyra's cousin* Also had his daughter lived, she would've been second cousins with Prince Jace and Rhaenyra's younger children by Daemon.
Hugh Hammer's mother was Saera Targaryen, the daughter of King Jaehaerys (the conciliator). She was wild and slept with men before she could be married off. The King could not control her, so he disowned Saera, and she ran away and went to a pleasure house in Essos, I believe. Hugh ends up claiming Virmithor, the same Dragon King Jaehaerys rode.
@@naunetraelife1209 thanks for the context on her! We were super interested in her story. My guy Hugh has proven himself to be a true Targaryen, respect to that man!
a facinating part of the story, a dark secret in the family (not so secret)
Exactly. So he is first cousins with Viserys and Daemon.
@@billbliss1518in the lore, Seara had three bastard sons. She sent them to Kings Landing to press for her claim. And one of them was said to be the spitting image of King Jahearys in his youth. The show will likely make Hugh be the son that’s the Jahearys doppelgänger.
@DaKidsReact also Ulf is riding the dragon of Qeueen Alyssane, queen to The Conciljator. Silverwimg and Vermithor were a bonded pair.
Awe. Silverwing. The neighborhood grandma who loves everyone. Such a sweetheart. 😊
The other problem is that Addam and Alyn of Hull have an equal or better claim to Driftmark than Jace….and arguably, better than Baela and Rhaena
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Nothing like a good dragon episode to make the day look back up again.
the creator of the show even said aemond was scared 😂
If Aemond wouldn’t have turned around the show would have ended this episode 😂😂
@@DaKidsReact yeah cuz he would’ve been destroyed. i’m not saying he was a coward or anything but he was smart to be afraid.
@@DaKidsReact 2:19 mark - Rhaenyra isn't trying to be intimidating because she is The Queen. Any member of the "low born" public would have to bow to their ruler. For her to tell Addam to stand is quite the opposite. If she wanted to be intimidating, she would have not given him the order to stand on his feet but rather stay on bent knee & continue to bow to her.
Also,. don't forget the Seasmoke used to be Laenor's ride & he was married to Rhaenyra for many years before his faked death. But now that Seasmoke has chosen Aadam, it means that Laenor has perished somehow because the bond only breaks upon the death of the rider. That is why Vermithor & Silverwing no longer have riders after King Jaeherys & Queen Alysanne passed away. They were the two dragons that Cregan Stark mentioned in episode 1, when he told Jace about how they refused to fly beyond The Wall. Silverwing is the mother of Syrax.
FYI - it is very likely that Coryls has some Targaryen blood in his ancestry. Back in Old Valyria & also after Ageon's conquest of Westeros, both houses of Velaryon & Targaryen intermingled with each other through marriages & affairs. Just because you have Targaryen blood doesn't automatically mean you are capable or worthy to be a dragonrider.
Here's the status of dragon count so far. The Greens have 3 that are able to fight - Vhagar, Dreamfyre, & Tessarion. Sunfyre is still injured & unable to fly. While The Blacks have Syrax, Vermax, Moondancer, Seasmoke, Vermithor, Silverwing, Caraxes, & maybe Sheep Stealer (if Rhaena is able to claim it).
Vermithor was probably the ultimate, the dealbreaker. I feel like Vermithor could body vhaegar 1v1.
@@mikepower8999no living Dragon can match vhaegar for size and ferocity
I loved the difference in how the two claim their dragons
Hugh: shows courage and fearlessness, defending a helpless girl
Ulf: " BBBAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHH!!!!!!! *pant*gasp*pant* AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! TRIPS!"
A dragon only takes a new rider if his previous rider died. So Laenor may have died some time off screen so Seasmoke chose Adam as his new rider.
Silverwing is the most docile and friendly dragon even to strangers. The lover/mate of vermithor. 😍 Just like Queen Alysanne and King Jahaerys I are the old riders, and were married as well. I believe thats daemons and viserys grand parents. The old king in episode 1 season 1. Silverwing is also syrax’s mother.
my main takeaway this episode is: vhagar is stubborn and not easy to control. thatll be the downfall of aemond and vhagar.
The dragon pit scene was like episode 1 of squid games 😂😂😂
Haha so true. Rhaenyra should have had the mask on.
Syrax was like "COME GET THIS SMOKE GRANDMA VHAGAR"
18:58 - Hugh's mother was Princess Saera Targaryen, she was not a bastard. She was disowned by her father, King Jaeherys. She was Baelon's sister, which makes her Daemon & Viserys' aunt. Hugh is their cousin. FYI - there were 45 people who answered Rhaenyra's call for new dragon riders. Some were real Targaryen bastards & others were just lying about their ancestry.
Is it the daughter he disowned because she got around a bit too much?
Hughs mom is saera targaryen aunt to viserys and daemon. She was disowned by the king for sleeping around and then she went to essos and opened a brothel
Hugh's mom is implied to be Saera Targaryen, a notoriously rebellious and “free-spirited” princess. She was the daughter of King Jaehaerys I, and the sister to Baelon Targaryen (Viserys's and Daemon's father) and Aemon Targaryen (Rhaenys’s father). Hugh is Rhaenys, Viserys and Daemon's cousin, while Ulf is Viserys and Daemon’s bastard half-brother.
I believe Helaena has a deagon also on the Green's side.
Hugh’s mother was the daughter of king Jaeherys and Daemon and Viseys aunt
And Queen Alyssane also, So she was a legitimate princess not a bastard.
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I love Ser Simon. He didn’t ask for any of this. He’s just trying to live and survive Daemon’s crazy ass. I hope Rhaena claims the wild dragon in the Vale. This was a solid episode and I cannot wait for the finale!
I've fallen right in love with Silverwing. She's a smart-ass, she's sassy, and she's got a sense of humor. She's having fun booping her new boy onto his butt over and over, then flying him to King's Landing to taunt Vhagar. I'm claiming her. Any of y'all'll have to fight me for her.
We still got some wild Draco out in these streets. Cannibal, Sheep Stealer and Grey Ghost.
King Jaehaerys (Daemon's Viserys' and Rhaenys' granddad) had a daughter named Saera. He sent her to the monastery to become a nun after finding out she's been sleeping around with three different guys. But she run away and lived her best life as s fancy hooker and eventually a madam and businesswoman. Refusing to present her case for succession of the iron throne, and stating she already built an empire of her own. I'm guessing they are going with her as Hugh's mom (in the books we don't know how exactly he is related to the main family)
One thing I am unsure about in the show, but in the books Lord Corlys has Targaryan ancestors several times over.
19:00 - Hugh is the son of Princess Saera Targaryen, she wasn’t a bastard. She was one of the daughters of King Jaehaerys I but she ran away to the East to enjoy her freedom in her own way by becoming a W and running her own pleasure house.
Hell yeah I'm takin that offer. If I die, I die. Valar morghulis... valar dohaeris .... but not all men truly live.
“Ah yoy get of my fucking egg!” 😂
Young Oscar Tully was the MVP of this episode!! I love how he shaded Daemon & still got his lords in order! I do think Daemon should’ve asked for him to be sent to wall tho😅 Cause I agreed with Blackwood Bracken chose green when his leige lord was Black so justice was done 🤷🏾♀️😂 Jace had every right to feel a way & confront Rhaenyra about putting bastards on dragons & how that can endanger him & his claim. Rhaenyra was wild af for sending them all in at once in the book they tried one by one & also on the wild dragons.
Dragon Tour.
Black Team
Queen Rhaenyra- Syrax
King Consort Daemon- Caraxes
Prince Jacaerys- Vermax
Prince Joffrey- Tyraxes(young)
Prince Aegon- Stormcloud(young)
Lady Baela- Moondancer
Addam of Hull- Seasmoke
Hugh Hammer- Vermithor
Ulf of White- Silverwing
Green Team
King Aegon ll- Sunfyre(crippled)
Queen Helaena- Dreamfyre
Prince Aemond- Vhagar
Prince Daeron- Tessarion
Princess Jaehaera- Morghul(young).
The whole Jace scene: I feel you all forget what highborn and lowborn means in this world. He may be a bastards, but he’s a highborn on both sides. He’s just as pure as Aegon and Aemond. They’re all half Targaryen. Alicent isn’t a Targaryen just like Ser Harwin Stong.
The boy Ulf spinning the block.
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I think Jace issue was that the other bastards actually look Targaryen with their hair and all. Keep in mind he’s a teen so he might be thinking them grown Targaryen riders might challenge him for the throne.
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Old king Jaehaerys & good queen Alysanne had 13 kids. Viserys & Daemon parents 2 of them. Rhaenys’s father was the heir & 1st born son, she was his only child. They had a daughter named princess Saera Targaryen who was a bit of a thot & he disowned her & she became a whore then a madam. That’s Hugh’s mother. The others died tragically & 1 was a septa & 1 a maester. Viserys’s 1st wife Queen Aemma’s mother was also one of their daughters she married the lord of the Vale & died having Aemma. That’s why there was a succession crisis between Rhaenys & Viserys the 1st born children of the 1st & 2nd sons.
P.S- Silverwing is a she dragon her & Vermithor are a mated pair in the books the only mated pair is dragons in the lore
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Does anyone else think that high Valerian sounds an awful lot like Italian and very astute of you guys to notice the Queen's hand maiden dressed in red. I noticed that but I don't think that the crowd did.
Young Lord Tully seems like maybe he got counselling from Alys Rivers, or maybe even she did some magic?
1. Rhaenyra is doing to Jace what her father did to her. She knows fat lot of good it does being named heir is when other Targaryens don’t want you to rule. She’s kicking the can down to road because it won’t be her problem down the road because she’ll be dead. It won’t matter to her.
2. Higgs mother was a legitimate Targaryen. Her name was Saera Targaryen. She was the sister of Viserys and Daemons parents. But she liked hooking up with men and she wasn’t subtle about it. She ends up running her own brothel. It’s actually amusing g because their father wouldn’t let her claim a dragon because she was a hoe. So her son claims her dads dragon😂
That was a pretty hard final shot.
The next scene with Hugh literally proved Jace’s point. When he tells his wife “if I claim a dragon they’ll make you a lady” they’ll get that power and want more. Always do
True but in times like this I believe it’s valid to feel that type of way. Like this is a huge sacrifice you are making for a war you, personally, have no business being involved in. Jace was totally correct in his statement.
No, Viserys and Daemon. didn’t have a sister. “Her brother’s sons” meant she was the sister of Baelon Viserys and Daemon’s father.
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She didn't even do any interviews. No background checks. Smh...a risky move.
Alicents kings guard is from 300 his son is the one who got his head chopped off.
Jace has a right to be concerned his only proof of legitimacy is his dragon. Rhaenyra is thinking short term instead of the full picture when she dies what will happen if Hugh or Ulf decide they have bigger dragons and more Targaryen blood that they want the throne who is stopping them from starting a full out war with Jace over it especially with how many didn’t want Rhaenyra as Queen people who support them over Jace for that simple reason it would have been all for nothing.
Rhaneyra basically chose getting herself on the throne over her childrens future. All she cares about is the crown. I found this decision to be incredibly selfish and short sighted. I like Hugh though dudes a clear badass.