Flood was an outstanding player. Just based on his skills as a defensive center fielder he belongs in the Hall of Fame. But his fight against the reserve clause ultimately changed baseball forever. That’s what he really belongs in the Hall of Fame for. It’s time to put him in there.
Agreed. The same goes for Walter O'Malley, who stole the Dodgers from Brooklyn and displaced thousands of people from their homes in Los Angeles to build a baseball stadium.
“Curt Flood never played Major League Baseball again”...ehhh..true and yet not true...in the Spring of 1971, Washington Senators’ owner Bob Short signed him to a one year $100,000 contract....but because he had missed an entire season the year before, and was 36 years old by April, 1971, most of Curt’s skills had significantly eroded and he quit the team by the end of April....interestingly, Short paid Flood his entire $100,000 salary and by the spring of ‘72, the Senators had become the Texas Rangers
I show he turned 33 just a few months earlier by April '71. I didn't know that about Bob Short giving Curt the full $100k salary for playing < 15 games.
The owners were right in being concerned about economics of the game while the players were right in that free agency should exist. I do not care for Bowie Kuhn because he did not have the fans best interest in mind otherwise why did the 1981 strike occur.
Curt Flood did nothing for free agency. He lost his case at the Supreme Court level. It wasn't until 1975 when Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally agreed to play without a contract that that case eventually went to arbitration(the Seitz decision)so the reserve clause was defeated when arbitration ruled in favor of mcnally and messersmith thereby releasing them from their previous contract. That decision is what brought the reserve clause down and not the Flood case. Just another example of the media showering praise on someone over just the basis of their skin color to push a narrative of how we have to be grateful and give thanks to some colored ballplayer for his efforts 🥱.
I do not agree with Curt Flood's actions and would side with the owners on this one, but I do respect his conviction to do it. The long term solution for MLB is a salary cap and revenue sharing which still does not exist. The bottom line is a business has to remain profitable for the workers, management, and consumers.
It amazes me how peeps don't understand the bigger picture as to this issue: so many don't see the size of the pie, so to speak. What do owners make percentage-wise? That players' salaries are made public. Owners'? No. And in deference to George Will, a right-wing dude, he makes it clear that no one ever bought a ticket to a see an owner...it's part of the pendulum, I get that, but man, Flood was so right it's almost chilling how hard it was for the players to achieve solidarity. It's a market economy for God's sake! How does that get suspended while maintaining the image of America's Game???
Mark, unless you are an owner yourself than I don't know what the hell you are thinking. I currently work for a corporation that made an extra billion dollars in profit during the covid pandemic and they could give less than a damn about me. The bottom line is a business has to remain profitable to the owner and the share holders. Everyone else is expendable.
The long term solution is a salary cap? Why? Profitable for management? Let management worry about their finances. Profitable for the consumers?? What does THAT mean? Team owners (mostly billionaires) are not dumb (most of them anyway), and they know their bottom lines. They're businessmen, and if they pay the latest superstar $300mm over 10 years, then so be it.
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Flood was an outstanding player. Just based on his skills as a defensive center fielder he belongs in the Hall of Fame. But his fight against the reserve clause ultimately changed baseball forever. That’s what he really belongs in the Hall of Fame for. It’s time to put him in there.
RIP Jackie Roosevelt Robinson 1919-1972
Today (January 18, 2018) is the 80th anniversary of Curt Flood's birth. His sacrifice should never be underestimated nor forgotten.
Him & Miller are critical figures in sports history. And well said.
@@dannicholls1507 thank you.
@@dannicholls1507 not miller. may that bastard burn in hell
@@davidaltman8831 Yes, Marvin Miller was critical.
The baseball players of today owe a lot to Curt Flood & Marvin Miller the head of the baseball players union
R u cisgender, mpuga?
Marvin Miller was a godsend to MLB players.
The fact Kuhn is in the Hall of Fame is more egregious than any juicer, gambler, or other such philanderer
Agreed. The same goes for Walter O'Malley, who stole the Dodgers from Brooklyn and displaced thousands of people from their homes in Los Angeles to build a baseball stadium.
Every current day player amongst all major sports leagues have Curt Flood to thank for the millions they make now. Period.
“Curt Flood never played Major League Baseball again”...ehhh..true and yet not true...in the Spring of 1971, Washington Senators’ owner Bob Short signed him to a one year $100,000 contract....but because he had missed an entire season the year before, and was 36 years old by April, 1971, most of Curt’s skills had significantly eroded and he quit the team by the end of April....interestingly, Short paid Flood his entire $100,000 salary and by the spring of ‘72, the Senators had become the Texas Rangers
he said after 1972 he played for the senators in 1971
I show he turned 33 just a few months earlier by April '71.
I didn't know that about Bob Short giving Curt the full $100k salary for playing < 15 games.
He did play for the Washington Senators after leaving the Cardinals
Yes, but only 13 games. Ted Williams was the manager of that team!
Players should do as they're told.
The owners were right in being concerned about economics of the game while the players were right in that free agency should exist. I do not care for Bowie Kuhn because he did not have the fans best interest in mind otherwise why did the 1981 strike occur.
2:27... anybody know the name of this particular piece of music?
Its defintely being played by Jaqueline Schwab
Unfair
god bless curt flood and god bless MLB free agency
Curt Flood did nothing for free agency. He lost his case at the Supreme Court level. It wasn't until 1975 when Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally agreed to play without a contract that that case eventually went to arbitration(the Seitz decision)so the reserve clause was defeated when arbitration ruled in favor of mcnally and messersmith thereby releasing them from their previous contract. That decision is what brought the reserve clause down and not the Flood case. Just another example of the media showering praise on someone over just the basis of their skin color to push a narrative of how we have to be grateful and give thanks to some colored ballplayer for his efforts 🥱.
I do not agree with Curt Flood's actions and would side with the owners on this one, but I do respect his conviction to do it.
The long term solution for MLB is a salary cap and revenue sharing which still does not exist. The bottom line is a business has to remain profitable for the workers, management, and consumers.
It amazes me how peeps don't understand the bigger picture as to this issue: so many don't see the size of the pie, so to speak. What do owners make percentage-wise? That players' salaries are made public. Owners'? No. And in deference to George Will, a right-wing dude, he makes it clear that no one ever bought a ticket to a see an owner...it's part of the pendulum, I get that, but man, Flood was so right it's almost chilling how hard it was for the players to achieve solidarity. It's a market economy for God's sake! How does that get suspended while maintaining the image of America's Game???
Mark, unless you are an owner yourself than I don't know what the hell you are thinking. I currently work for a corporation that made an extra billion dollars in profit during the covid pandemic and they could give less than a damn about me. The bottom line is a business has to remain profitable to the owner and the share holders. Everyone else is expendable.
@@seanmcdougall9497 now you have the reverse, had flood been traded to a city that wasnt so bigoted this would have never happened
The long term solution is a salary cap? Why? Profitable for management? Let management worry about their finances. Profitable for the consumers?? What does THAT mean?
Team owners (mostly billionaires) are not dumb (most of them anyway), and they know their bottom lines. They're businessmen, and if they pay the latest superstar $300mm over 10 years, then so be it.