Actually, this is what you HAVE to do in smash 4. These guys could have just held ledge and won anytime. The removal of ledge-hogging only made edge-guarding MORE aggressive.
+Ikechi Ogbuagu Actually that wont matter because in smash 4 more than half the cast can recover from anything on any tournament legal stage. Not just that but they will air dodge attacks off stage if they can.
Daniel Rodriguez Which is why edgeguardung goes really deep in 4, to force a player into bad positions and use up their recovery options. Also airdodge reads and ledge trumps.
no it isn't, with things like air dodging and character like villager who can literally go around the stage without using their second jump means it doesn't make people switch up their recovery options because the ledge is relatively free. An example of this is i studying set against sodrek in beast 6. i studying used a technique which made most characters recoveries useless because of the wind box not being connected to him and he could not be hit by the hit box on the front of the recovery. sodrek could not mix up his recovery because he did not know how to because during his entire time playing the game the ledge had always been relatively free. At top level play that should not be happening. Smash 4 has no edge guarding. Its meta game can be summed up in 4 words "let's play neutral again".
+Daniel Rodriguez Okay, I just went and watched the set (which was really enjoyable, by the way) and istudying caught sodrek's side b with shuriken and punished his laggy up b. Simple as that. Sheik or falco would do the same in melee. That's edgeguarding at its core. Sodrek didn't try to side b lower to avoid the projectile and sweetspot the ledge, and if he didn't know about it, that's on him for not knowing the matchup. Also, you can't judge the game based on its extreme cases. Villager's recovery is undoubtedly one of the best in the game, if not the best. (To be fair, I personally am not too fond of Villager's up b or Greninja windbox shenanigans, but they are part of the game and of those characters, so I learn how to deal with them.)
This video is amazing but makes me sad, I took pm off my sad card to do something then when I put it back it didn't work and the remakes didn't work either, please tell me I was doing something wrong because I miss this game a lot
I needs to be a 2gb or less card, and the card can't be named project M or something like it. Get the most up to date version(unreleased). github.com/Project-M-CC/Project-M-CC
Somebody had way to much fun with this
JUST HOLD THE DAMN LEDGE SHAYDON
he's dead jim.
I SAID HE'S DEAD JIM.
GODAMMIT JIM YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB.
02:26 And here we have two Foxes performing their mating call.
This is actually incredible, you should be proud that this exists
subbed for reasons
I wish I had even half the amount of tech skill you and your friends have!
4:04
is so true, this isn't the disrespect bros.
This video is still my favorite PM montage.
This was so beautiful
a legend begins...
This was really good! Fun to watch!
See! This is what good teching looks like!
I love that PM has stronger recoveries than Melee, because it means offstage looks like THIS
Plays bee geez, Name Blue, Stay alive...
Yes, that was perfect.
Nice
Love your vids Azurin, keep em comin'. Also saw your work on the Rush Hour Smash vid. Kudos to you man :D
Shoto FE Thanks, dude! :) Please continue to support!
Everything's default except tap jump is off, L trigger is set to jump and X is set to taunt/footstool.
epicallity
Played an Ike who would do wall jump recoveries on FoD. Would never die off the sides.
how the hell do you get so comfortable offstage....
This is the kind of stuff smash 4 is missing out on with their stupid ledge mechanics
Actually, this is what you HAVE to do in smash 4. These guys could have just held ledge and won anytime. The removal of ledge-hogging only made edge-guarding MORE aggressive.
+Ikechi Ogbuagu Actually that wont matter because in smash 4 more than half the cast can recover from anything on any tournament legal stage. Not just that but they will air dodge attacks off stage if they can.
Daniel Rodriguez Which is why edgeguardung goes really deep in 4, to force a player into bad positions and use up their recovery options.
Also airdodge reads and ledge trumps.
no it isn't, with things like air dodging and character like villager who can literally go around the stage without using their second jump means it doesn't make people switch up their recovery options because the ledge is relatively free. An example of this is i studying set against sodrek in beast 6. i studying used a technique which made most characters recoveries useless because of the wind box not being connected to him and he could not be hit by the hit box on the front of the recovery. sodrek could not mix up his recovery because he did not know how to because during his entire time playing the game the ledge had always been relatively free. At top level play that should not be happening. Smash 4 has no edge guarding. Its meta game can be summed up in 4 words "let's play neutral again".
+Daniel Rodriguez Okay, I just went and watched the set (which was really enjoyable, by the way) and istudying caught sodrek's side b with shuriken and punished his laggy up b. Simple as that. Sheik or falco would do the same in melee. That's edgeguarding at its core. Sodrek didn't try to side b lower to avoid the projectile and sweetspot the ledge, and if he didn't know about it, that's on him for not knowing the matchup.
Also, you can't judge the game based on its extreme cases. Villager's recovery is undoubtedly one of the best in the game, if not the best.
(To be fair, I personally am not too fond of Villager's up b or Greninja windbox shenanigans, but they are part of the game and of those characters, so I learn how to deal with them.)
Fucking Amazing!
1:19 WAIT since when can ness take damage from his own Pk Thunder???
Since that mario tried to kick him of course
There is a notable lack of wall techs in some spots
tbh some of this is so good I can't believe it wasn't staged.
This video is amazing but makes me sad, I took pm off my sad card to do something then when I put it back it didn't work and the remakes didn't work either, please tell me I was doing something wrong because I miss this game a lot
I needs to be a 2gb or less card, and the card can't be named project M or something like it. Get the most up to date version(unreleased). github.com/Project-M-CC/Project-M-CC
Will Falcon live?
HYEZ
1666th sub lol
please tell me you went to a tourney and did well
Yeah, because it is a high level tournament bracket they was current in and edgehogging is so hard and hype to watch and to play (sarcasm)
lmao ur so mean