Instinctive Shooting And The Feels Good Sight Picture / Longbow & Recurve
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2023
- Join me today for an action packed shooting session where we’ll go over the “sight picture” used in place of a sight with traditional bows and how it works with instinctive shooting longbows and recurves!
Traditional archery: Easy to learn, a lifetime to master. I love it! 🏹
Jeff, thank you for doing what you do you truly are doing what God intended you to do you’re being one of his disciples and making him proud. I really appreciate you and I’m so thankful that there are people like you out there teaching us how to become good archers.
I am soooo pumped!! I just tried 3 under after years of shooting split finger. The improvement for me was HUGE! My sight window has opened up tremendously. I know you talk about both styles.............but for me, I am excited to move to 3 under for target shooting. My accuracy has Jumped!!! I am still in the adjustment phase but I am hitting more bullseye than before. PUMPED!!!! Thanks Jeff! (I'm 68)
Man that’s awesome!
Great video! Thank you so much for putting this one up. Much appreciated.
I enjoy listening to you
Jeff, no one can explain the secret of instinctive shooting as convincingly as you !
I watch your videos and I'm always amazed.
Greetings from Germany !
Greetings to you my friend and thank you so much!
It is hard to explain what is going on without a broader view of point. Instinct is being, thought is being, moral is being that rules. Our flesh body and physics is guarded by rules of our dimension. when your willingness is strong and play hard(that said, you get to pay for what you want and endure difficulty), the instinct grows and mature.
This my opinion-> best instinctive tutor to my mind!
Thank you so much!
Great video! Makes so much sense.
Thanks Jeff. I’m just coming back from wrist surgery with groups all over the place. I’ve been dabbling ask week with different styles and getting very frustrated. You reminded me why I shoot instinctive. It’s stress free.
I resonate with this even as a learning archer. I doubt I'll ever use a sight, the fun for me is just finding the sight on my bow, which is the arrow rest. But I'm learning so at moment im getting my stance and anchor set in. At moment I'm either two ways, so got to choose the best one. My course hopefully starts soon, and that will determine how I've learned just threw shooting and studying videos like yours. God bless you for helping us learners out.
Jeff is a beast !!! Awesome shooting an helpful information, thank you
I love this video jeff. You're such a real person. I appreciate your input. It makes sense in my mind
Thanks brother I always try to keep it simple and fun!
thanks Jeff..this video is the first time i have heard an Instinctive Archer say ' you just know when your bow is lined up with the target. '
Anyone watching this video that wants to shoot Instinctively and are not sure whether they are doing it correctly , try this simple test .
Hold your bow so that the centre of your target is in the target window ,as Jeff describes .
Draw back to your normal anchor point and hold it.
Focus intently on the centre of target you wish to hit, ...... nothing else......!
Now slowly sweep your bow up and down a few inches across your focal point on the target until you ' feel' that you have found the vertical centre of your focal point on the target. (keep focused only on the target.).
Now sweep your bow slightly from side to side across your focus point on your target until again you 'feel' that you have found the horizontal centre of your focus . (maintain focus at all times only on the target.).You can repeat this cycle until you are satisfied that your bow is correctly aligned on the target .You are now ready to release .
If you have done this correctly you should not have shifted your focus from the centre of the target until after release .
Exaggerating the instinctive aiming method like this lets you experience how it 'feels' when you 'know ' that your bow is aligned on your focal point correctly.
It's hard not to get frustrated when it starts to come together only to fall apart again, but it is so important to avoid that mental state of frustration.
It really is lol but it seems like when I just loosen up and have fun everything gets better!
Wise advices. Thank you Jeff!
Thanks God Bless!
Jeff, the sound of them cricket is driving me crazy
Hello Jeff, just wanted to say a big thank you for the insight and advice you offer in this channel. I have rediscovered archery after 20+ years and I'm loving it. Working on instinctive shooting with a deflex longbow and planning to progress with a recurve once I develop good form. I find your tips to be spot on when it comes to shot sequence, picking a spot, and most importantly a reliable/repeatable anchor. I noticed I was collapsing on my shot after poor grouping. Focusing on a repeated anchor with back tension has brought my groups closer. Instead of getting frustrated, I remembered your advice to beginners, have fun, remind yourself of what you did right when making a good shot and hit that anchor! It's starting to come together, but I feel your videos have sped up my progress considerably. Thank you.
Man that’s so awesome to hear and I’m so thankful for guys like you watching and going through their personal journey especially when they do remember that it’s supposed to be fun! God Bless you my friend 👍🏻
Hi Jeff, greatings from Germany. As an "old beginner" i can really learn a lot. Thanks for your sharing your experience and the way you explain your way of shooting 💯
I really appreciate you watching my friend and just knowing that people all over the world are on my channel is a true blessing!
appreciate the words of wisdom in this one! i went out to get ready for hunting season and was shooting great even out to 25yds! so i kept practicing and now i can't seem to put it together again. can be very frustrating
Yes it can just have to regroup and remember to have fun! That’s when it comes back usually 😁
Thanks Jeff, there's a lot of wisdom there drawn from experience. Cheers John vb
Thanks Jeff!!!!🙏 I REALLY needed to here this today!!! My form collapsed this morning after a perfect day yesterday. So thanks so much, Jeff! Much appreciated!! Bless ya!
Lol it happens to us all from time to time just bounce back and get mad if you have to in order to take control of the shots 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thanks for the reminder, Jeff!! I recall a video you did once on "attitude" and getting a bit mad if we have to in order to get the form back! Thanks mate!! Much appreciated!!
Another great video mate,keep em coming.
I sure will brother thanks!
I like your new intro Jeff😊
Cool! Thanks so much 😁👍🏻
Hi Jeff! I been doing instinctive shooting with split finger for 9 years ( Longbow)
Six months ago I been trying 3 under, and Gap shooting, and it feels safer to hit where I want.
The difficulties with Gap shooting is to estimate the distance to the target, one meter plus or minus doesn't matter, but if 5 meters or more, then it goes wrong.
I found out that from 8 meters to 18 meters I have the same Gap, so that's easy, and 24-25 meter is point on.
And upcoming tests will be to extend the arrows in length to even decrease the Gap.
So that's my next experiment with longer arrows and reduce the tip weights.
Im looking for my Holy Graal arrow, hopefully I will find it this coming winter( in Spain).
My Longbow is 45lbs and my Bamboo arrows is 45-50 in spine in full length, so I let you know later on if this is working or not, thanks for an excellent program!!!
Great video enjoyed it very much. Thank you for sharing it and God bless
Awesome thanks!
I'm sixty four years old and it took me a while
I hope what I have to say here might help some folks. I shot compounds for about thirty years. I shot freestyle with a release, 6 power lens in my sight and all the other stuff that goes along with it. I finally got sick of tinkering around with all that stuff constantly. If I missed a shot, I would be wondering is there something loose in my sight, my rest, are the wheels out of time, is one of my cams leaning etc., etc, etc. So I got out of the compound shooting and bought a Win & Win FITA bow. I shot that for about three years, but still had the same frustrating experiences. That bow had moving parts on it just like the compound did. So I had Jeff make me a really nice long bow. My bow has ONE moving part on it, and that's the string. When I miss a shot, there is only one reason for it. ME! Jeff is right in all that he says here. I have found that it is very important, for me anyway, to line up on the shot before ever pulling the string. I don't know what it is but it helps a lot to do that. Another thing for me anyway, is my bow arm. I focus on keeping my bow arm as still as I can until the arrow hits the target. This is incredibly important for me. It is very important to develop an anchor that is repeatable. I have been messing around with that for a couple of years tryng all kinds of different things and have finally got the anchor that works the best for me. In my opinion, shooting "Instinctive" is all about consistency. Every shot has to be same as the previous one. Don't just take for granted that your anchor is pretty close to the last one. It has to be exactly the same.I hope this might help some folks. And thanks to you Jeff for a really nice bow, and some really great videos. They are how I learned to shoot like I do. God bless you and your family
Jim
Thanks Jim and I cherish the plaque you made us as well my dear friend take care and best of luck this season out there in Oregon 👍🏻
Hey Jeff, hello from the east coast of Canada. Great video as always!
Wow! Thank you so much!
Another good video Jeff. Thanks. With deer season approaching quick maybe you can show us how to properly shoot from a tree stand? Form, bending at the waist, elbow up etc….
Oh it’s coming soon! I’ve already been thinking about that my friend and yes it’s very different practice 😁
Nice Video, I like that you started to implement a camera angle next to the target. :)
May I ask what kind of 3D-Target it is that you´re using?
Yes sir it’s a BigShot target 👍🏻
I have really enjoyed your videos, I recently got a Hoyt Satori 19" and would like to get a set of your recommended DAS 3k carbon bamboo ILF limbs, I do not live that far from you, I live about 50 miles north of Chattanooga, what do you suggest where to get them?
Order them from 3rivers, you’ll love them!
Jeff what feathers are you using? They look nice, yet taller than I usually see! Sweet vid!
They are True Flight 4” shield cut left wing👍🏻
I’d love to see a video on… I bare shafted my arrows and they fly great, but for some reason I’m getting a lot of wear on the rest and on one of the feathers. How to fix video.
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Another awsome training video
Thanks brother I’ve got some tree stand practice videos coming up 👍🏻
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 good I look forward to them like you can't believe. One of the reasons I like them so much is it took me so long with trial and error to figure this out. I feel sorry for guys starting out. I help guys here set up arrows a lot. 90 percent show up with the wrong arrow spine. 100 percent show up with wring tip weight. Carbons are a bi#$%% to set up if your new. Most of the time I end up bumping them up in arrow spine and doing 5 grain washers until we find the right arrow. It's always the same. And through a chrono we drop their arrow speeds 20 feet or more a second but go from can barely keep it in a foam deer to having contests on who can hit the pop tab off its nose. 20 plus feet per second only makes that bow louder. I'd take a wisper quiet 150 fps arrow over 190 fps any day because the deer will jump a 190. It so improves accuracy and hunting ability to get that dart flight and super quiet. Man I love your videos. And dropping 20 fps but bumping up foc does not hinder penetration in any way. But the arrow went where you looked
I've told guys for awhile now trad bows are like hunting with a woman......it has to be perfect but when it is it is.
God bless you Jeff! Thanks for all you do for us.
I've just gotten back into trad shooting after many years of compound and crossbow. Took your advice and purchased a Cairn from 3Rivers and I;m loving it! Still trying to find what works for me, anchor, arrows etc. I had 3Rivers do the setup and arrows, but how do you find your perfect arrow when you're still trying to figure out how to shoot?
Again thanks and God bless, Bob
Let me know what weight and draw length exactly and I’ll get you the exact arrow specs you’ll want for it brother thank you!
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Thank you Jeff. I have a 27 inch draw length and the Cairn has 35# limbs. Great bow! Hope to use it for hunting next year. Thanks for all you do. God bless, Bob
@@robertmayer6866 okay if you’re going to build hunting arrows you can go with 600 spine and run around 225-250 grains of point weight combined with broadhead and inserts and for target the actual correct spine is a 700 with stock inserts and a lighter tip like 125 grains both being cut to about 28.5-29” and the 700’s will work for hunting arrows cut around 28” with up to probably 175 grains of point weight 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 excellent! Thanks so much!
Love your videos. I am learning so much. God bless
@@robertmayer6866 thanks brother!
After shooting 3 under and kinda having a better sight to aim to arrow down to the target, what made you come back to split finger?
Jeff I have a serious question. I love shooting instinctive. I am shooting a vintage recurve and currently using a bear weather rest. In your opinion, would a hair rest and strike pad be more consistent? Is it a better option?
You can learn instinctive on any setup but it is definitely better to have the arrow as close to your hand and your eye as possible so when you elevate the rest it proves a another Wrinkle in there
@mikekupetsky6879 Thank you for your reply. When the bow was handed down to me it didn't have anything on the shelf so I installed the weather rest and it shoots well but I want minimal deflection when my feathers pass the shelf and I didn't know which one would have the least amount between the elevated rest and the hair rest. Any experienced advice is much appreciated.
Yes sir absolutely it will, usually the strike plate on the Bear system is really thick and from all of the vintage bows I’ve had the calf hair works incredibly well!
Hi Jeff, would you kindly teach us how to shoot fast moving animals?
Thank you very much.
That’s so cool you asked that! We’re going to a shoot next weekend where they’ll have running deer targets in the woods to shoot at and yes it’ll be on a video 😁👍🏻
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Thank you very much brother Jeff! You helped us a lot.
May God bless you!
I’v been thinking about getting a recurve bow I currently shoot a compound…I used to shoot traditional back in my teens.What would be a good not top end but some were in the middle for a Recurve bow?I like black widows but I don’t think I wanna spend $1300 plus on a bow that I my not stick with long term.thanks
Man I’d go with something like a Samik Sage elite or a Fleetwood also the Toparchery 60” recurve off Amazon they’re amazing shooters for sure and cheap! Just get a TTT string for whatever you go with it’ll make all the difference in the world 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thanks for your input 🙏have a blessed day..And I don’t have FB so I’m not sure how to go about getting those TTT strings
I'm good with my trad bow. But hunting, its like preforming in a boxing match. If you don't do everything right, you get your butt kicked. Its stressful as hell, I'm more worried about plucking a shot under pressure then anything.
Absolutely and you’re right about that!
Hi Jeff where is the Alabama Society of Traditional Bowman located in the state? Do you all have a club and or hold 3 D shoots? Thanks
hi, I have a 45lbs bow but pulling 26-26.5 so more like a 41 pounds bow. Do you think arrow spine 600 at 30 inch and 125-135 broadhead would fly good ? thanks
It should as long as you don’t run much more point weight, I’m about to release a video on true traditional spine selection for recurves and longbows 👍🏻
@@OldFartWithAYoungHeart yes sir exactly, everything is direct opposite with left handed shooters so if they’re tail right they are too stiff 👍🏻
I’m sorry if you’re a left handed shooter and the arrows are tail right then that means they’re weak not stiff sorry about that lol
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 ok thank you. It's weird I feel like a 600 spine or 500 would be better but why does a 400 cutting 28.5 nches is too weak? 26.5 draw 45 pounds bow
@@OldFartWithAYoungHeart it does sound strange
One more thing too is for you not to overbow yourself