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- If you're a fan of longer videos this one is for you! Test of a Simplex 4010 system at a local high school. This facility is very special to me as it is actually my old high school from many years ago. Much however has changed since then as the facility has undergone multiple expansions/renovations. This is evident by the various mix of devices in different wings. Original system was an Autocall (unknown panel type) as can be noted by some of the original devices.
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The mix of electromechanical 4903 and TrueAlert horn/strobes reminds me of the campus center at my friend's university; they had a Simplex 4100 system installed in the mid-90s set up as conventional (replacing an old Standard system from 1971), and when a few areas were renovated during the 2000s they put in TrueAlert horn/strobes and addressable initiating devices. But then when they renovated the main lobby and above floors there, they replaced the 4100 with a Simplex 4100ES voice-evac panel, with TrueAlert speaker/strobes installed in said renovated area, while the other parts of the building still have the electromechanical 4903 and TrueAlert horn/strobes (along with the conventional initiating devices in the areas with 4903s)! A rather unusual system now for sure.
What message and tones does the 4100ES play?
@@GaryBeltz I haven't heard it yet, but knowing the university, it'd probably be Slow Whoop and the default male or female evac message.
Perfect day for this video! There was a false fire alarm at school a few days ago... everyone had a heart attack since it was right when we got to class. And me being a fire alarm nerd went slower than everyone else... checking to see if the alarms were working right. Yep, that’s me 😂 Cool video by the way, I subscribed
What system does your school have?
when that happens at my schools, i get up and camly walk fast to the nearest exit. I dont take no time in there, next time ill try to catch a drill. LOL
My first elementary school (now a K-8 school) actually still has a Simplex 4010 panel. It was installed around the mid-2000s, tied into the school's original Simplex 4208 panel from 1974 (the 4010 was replacing a 4004 installed in 1998, which in turn replaced a Simplex 4002 installed in the late 80s or early 90s for added-on duct detectors.) The 4010 was for main controls, the duct detectors, signal coding and the modular building, while the 4208 was used for the existing pull stations, heat sensors and an old ionization smoke detector. They had Simplex 4051+4050-80 horn/lights, but they used 120-VAC light plates for some reason, and while the NACs on the 4010 would code the signals (Slow March Time), they had to run through the 4208 to provide the AC power for the lights (while the horns were 24-VDC.) But in early 2015, the Simplex 4208 panel started failing (sometimes the signal circuits wouldn't work in a certain zone, or the system would randomly go into alarm), so during the February break they gutted the 4208, wired everything into the 4010, replaced the old 4208 battery cabinet with a couple of EST booster power panels, and replaced all alarm signals with SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes (they even replaced the Wheelock MT-24-LSMs in the modular with Advances!) But at least my city's school district considers faulty/malfunctioning fire alarm systems a top priority on their agendas!
i knew this is an old comment! But Simplex panels do accept System Sensor Devices, even the L-Series.
I love the one System Sensor Mass and Spectralert that are just randomly in the system.
Wow! I absolutly love this! Good job, Billy!
Thanks for viewing!
@@safetech you're welsome!
I love all the mechanics fire alarms
Nice video! I won’t be able to do this in my high school because it’s getting torn down and I’ll be away at college then. Although, a local elementary school in my district is being torn down in late June or early July though and I am going to be acquiring that school’s old system as it is up for auction and I have put a high bid on it. 4005 control panel, and 2903 strobe plates with 9838 horns behind them for A/V’s. Pulls are a variety of 4251-20’s, a couple 2099’s, and some old Simplex local alarm “Chevron” metal pull stations from the 50’s.
Good luck on winning that stuff!
Thanks for viewing!
I got to pull the fire alarm twice fire December's and March's fire drills
I used to watch fire alarm videos when I was like 5, just here for some nostalgia
Same here.... I always watched fire alarm videos throughout all elementary.
Wasn’t expecting you here but yeah I watch fire alarm videos sometimes.
@@prairiestatetoilets3370 You could say I'm Mr.worldwide
i like that the doors actually closed together.
Hi, I'm an alarm technician from Russia. Very interesting to see your systems
Thanks for viewing!
what are alarms like in russia
@@safetech Why is a true alert strobe flashing so fast
@@ajsmusic723 System is in walk test.
@@FireRescue80 why does the strobe flash fast on walk test mode
Love those system sensor chimes and the federal signals units! Way cool!
Boy, SmartSync and conventional don't mix too well. All the older devices sound very healthy though! Great vid!
Yes but you must remember i’m testing the system in walk-test. Each phase functions beautifully in general alarm/normal operating conditions. Thanks for viewing!
I agree with you on that one! 4 wire TrueAlerts/Selectable 4903s would be perfect installs for this type of setup.
I love the intro music.
This walk test was crazy!
Alarms:
Simplex 4906-9127's
Simplex 4903's (9236, 9219)
Federal signal 450D's
System Sensor Spectralert Classic
System Sensor MA/SS 24 set on 800Hz
Coding (during the Bell Test): Continuous (Code 3 for the Truealerts)
Its like the horns are playing a game of "who is the loudest lol.
Ikr
I like the flat head in the Phillips on the autocall also love the mass and the specralert
I'm surprised no one mentioned that rogue truealert going off when the relays clicked in the panel at 29:40
I noticed
It was probably because the alarm silence went away before the panel fully reset.
Ya yeet 1st day of summer break and you’re gonna make a video, yay!
Thanks for viewing!
No problem! :D
Looked like Federal Signal owned Autocall during the time that system was made!
What's up with the two System Sensors? Who would install those?
i was here on the premire!
I love the mixed systems!
Me 2
I noticed how the alarms were sounding in sequences like 1-1-5, then 1-1-4, then 1-1-3, etc.
Why is that?
I've heard speakers be like, testing device "One One Nine".
Just curious of what the numbers mean? Im guessing it's the device number and zone or something?
So like zone 11, device 5 maybe?
I assume the 450Ds were the original alarm?
I just got up at 5:30 and I’m setting the reminder now.
Beautiful System Sensor / Simplex System!!
Lucky! All the public schools I went to either had Genesis or Integrity lmao
Same as my high school. Most of the fire alarms there are Edward EST Genesis and one Integrity which is in the boy's locker room
So any horn, Simplex or not, is compatible with a Simplex system? (Zoned and/or addressable)
Also, explain the difference between zoned and addressable devices.
Zones are when devices are in a specific area of the building. Addressable is when when every device has its own address.
Yes not Simplex Horn strobes are compatible with Simplex systems
Why do they only sound for a few seconds?
How did they make em do that?
Walk test
Awesome system!
Thanks for viewing!
SAFETECH You’re welcome!
Nice! Can’t wait!!
Great video 😀👍👍
Were the alarms different and older then and got replaced
with newer ones during expansions?
Me too!! And why in the world does this have dislikes!!??
Micah Larson probably because of the premiere. Most people seem to be doing this nowadays
Wow Different Fire Alarms Noises
The 9237s must have replaced broken down 9219s
Yep, electronic ones came later than mechanical horns. They could have been a 9236 or 9238.
15:09 System Sensor Spectralert Classic
Heh, that kind of reminds me of my friend's old high school building. It was built in 1951, and they had either a Simplex 4020 or 4100 system installed in the 90s with 4903 horn/strobes (probably electromechanical), but the main office had a SpectrAlert Classic, and there were also a few disconnected IBM 4030 horns left over from the original IBM system that the 90s Simplex system replaced. The school was eventually demolished in 2015 in favor of a new high school campus that has a Simplex 4100ES voice-evac system.
3:16, 7:35, 7:41, 12:55, 13:23, 13:58, 14:23, 14:52, 15:05, 16:44, 17:26, 18:09, 18:21, 19:07, 19:33 Combination of new and old fire alarms.
12:07, 20:41, 21:02, 21:24 is an odd coding for walk test. 2 short beeps must be 0, so if the alarm goes 2-3-5, then that must be channel 2, device 35?
System Sensor at 14:52 & 15:05
(28:31 is a MASS 24)
6:04
The pulse pattern I noticed was
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Do the two short tones represent zero? (And therefore, would this be device 110?)
That depends on the panel type. In conventional panels, two short pulses usually means that the zone has already been activated earlier in the test. In addressable panels, like you said, two short pulses means 0 (At least, I think).
What is the model number of the device at 2:48 I know its one of sinplexs mechanical devices but just dont know the model number.
Simplex 4903-92xx. It's either the 9215, 9217, or 9219. The differences between the 15, the 17, and the 19 are the candela brightness. Otherwise, everything is exactly the same.
Why do the true alerts freak out like that?
It's in walk test. This is especially common with SmartSync TrueAlerts.
It looks like those fs 450s are the original alarms
What’s with the inconsistent coding and the stuttering truealerts around mid video. Like some pulls are 2 chirps in march time and other devices code 3 but 1 chirp, chirp again then stutters the first of the 3 chirps in code 3 and completes it. And near the end of the video where all the horns are going rouge as far as timing and coding goes?
System is in walk-test. Simply put, this facility features a combination of zoned and addressable devices.
Good job
Wow awesome
So if I am understanding this correctly, the system is set on Continuous, with a sync module that governs the true alerts (hence why the true alerts are on Code 3, and kinda got jammed up during the Walk Test)?
Also, was there not an annunciator in this school?
I believe so. With the newest equipment being installed in 2005 the required code is temporal. There are 2 4009’s that are coded to this and a non-addressed 4009 that runs continuous for the existing areas. Yes there is also an annunciator.
Wow that’s a big system. I wonder, would there be any way to get the Temporal sections to cooperate during walk test? Or would you have to set the whole building onto Temporal Code?
@@safetech how can a horn strobe be coded to code 3, and the horn strobe be coded march time
25:05 federal signal vibratone
Wow those 9219s are louder than true alerts and what coding is panel in
I mean the 9219/9215/9217 is electromechanical, so they are meant to be louder than electronic/speaker 4903s and TrueAlerts.
Also coding is continuous with the exception of the TrueAlerts that are in Code 3.
I am interested in the System Sensor MA/SS also
Question. Once the reset finished, why did the horns pulse?
Its a common occurrence at times with legacy 4010 sync.
What does it mean if it goes for example 6-7-2
It's broken into different sections in walk test mode the devices sound in a pattern to indicate which zone was tripped. Without knowing the layout of the building I couldn't tell you what each number corresponds with however.
Thats not an actual zone pattern for this facility. Something may have been tripped before the first device could finish calling its address.
My elementary school had the autocall pull and this alarm 26:29 and i was tampering it in the bathroom and it went off and i was traumatized after it happened
Nice!👍👍
Nice
Is it bad when you reset the panel, the alarms do one short beep and then it resets. Is this a fault?
No, it’s just a part of the reset procedure.
Wouldnt call it a fault however it’s more typically seen with sync on legacy 4010’s.
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The first fire alarm sound, is the fire alarm at my school. Well one of them.
At least the newest electromechanical horns are the 9219s
On this system, yes. But also do note there may be some 4903-9215s and 4903-9217s mixed in. Yes, I do believe most signals are the 4903-9219s.
Why do the strobes blink so fast
The system is in walktest
School bell 18:36 20:06
You can make a video with the same test but in the Fire Panel Simplex4100ES
Why does the simplex trualert flashes a little faster
System is in walk test and is coding the address/zone of each device tested.
So I’m looking at getting a 4100U or 4100ES but I live in Australia and Simplex here won’t sell to the general public and can’t find a used one here either. So I have had a look on eBay and I can find quite a few used ones in the US but I’m wondering if there would be differences between the Australian and US 4100s.
Hi Safetech, i was wondering, i want to make some animated fire alarm system video’s, i was wondering if it is ok if i use audio from your videos? I will credit you of course. I just want to know because you have some pretty good alarm audio
Sure.
SAFETECH Thanks
Why can the Simplex TrueAlert only do code 3?
The 4 Wire 4903 TrueAlerts can only do continuous. Most TrueAlerts are coded by a panel to code 3.
@@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire7554 Late response there tho 💀
@@chrislp1145Another thing is that these TrueAlerts are SmartSync 4906-9127s. Fixed candela models are 4903-9417/9418/9419. The non-SmartSync models are 4903-9425/9426/9427.
Anybody know the model number of the truealerts that are blinking really quickly?
I think they are Simplex 4903-9425s. Not too bright. 9426 and 9427 are brighter. It could be a 4906-9127 multi candela TrueAlert.
Actually, I am sure that this is a 4906-9127. The 4903-9425/9426/9427 TrueAlerts have a noticeably higher pitch, whereas these ones are lower.
How do fire alarm do this
Walk test.
TrueAlerts were the last Simplex horns put it.
um.. They are broken.
No they're not. They work fine.
The only way you would tell if the fire alarm was broken is if the horn didn't sound and/or the strobe didn't flash.
At the elementary school that I went to, whenever the fire alarms went off, all I could hear was *WRRAAAAAA* (it was mechanical except for the flashing light at the top)
Are you talking about the Simplex 4903-9220, the vertical mounted version of the 9219? And were they on continuous?
Cool alrm
That your old high school som of them are trying to do code 3
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And the newest alarm is obviously the System Sensor SpectrAlert
No. Just no.
@@FireRescue80 Really? Because they came out in the EARLY 2000s and the 9237s, TrueAlerts and MA/SS came out in the LATE 90s.
@@Goldenrod636 Oh sorry. I thought you mean the newest one on the market. My bad.
@@Goldenrod636 the system sensor MASSs came out in the 80s.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign I think he's referring to the newer versions.
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He points the camera down so he doesn’t record what he’s supposed to accidentally for privacy reasons