We have larger digital screens and digital speedometers in our 2017 Forester 2.5i Premium with the Eye Sight Package, even though it ain’t an XT or Limited 😂. That’s surprising. I came from the Forester Reddit and subbed to see your new Headlight Video!!
Man that’s crazy. I hate inconsistency like that. Same how mine doesn’t have the assisted lift gate but a friend of mine has it on the same model... thanks for the sub! I’ll be doing the video here in the next few weeks. Keep in mind it’s a taillight video but the process is the same for the headlights!
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Ahh I see, that is one thing Subaru did weird for sure lol. I’ll still watch the taillight video, since I need some inspiration to mod my own Forester 😂. Cool car man, and I’m looking forward to the taillights :)
Appreciate the video. We have a 2017 XT and overall good car. Has the digital speedometer so must have dropped it in 2018. Weird. Our biggest pet peeve is the fro t passenger seat is uncomfortable, like sitting g on a rock, and has limited adjustment control.
Thanks for doing this, all these seem no major issues of the vehicle. For me, the biggest complaint is no a/c vent for the rear passenger. As you said for a 2018 model and the flagship SUV for Subaru; it is the most basic feature for its class. Even a 2007 BMW 3 series touring has it.
All the missing features on your list were addressed in the newer generation Foresters except for the digital speedometer that is still not on the current-gen. Something I wish my '19 had though was the XT's turbo engine. Hate how they discontinued it in the newer models. Would've been willing to spend a little more on gas for more power. Also (I know this is more of a luxury thing) I wish they had the option of ventilated seats (offered on other models but not on the Forester) for the scorching summers here in SoCal. Love the chill mood on your videos.
Yea looks like I missed the amenities by 1 year lol. BUT I definitely love having more power. In my 5 things I love video I’m working on, one of the things is definitely the turbo and boost in power! Glad you like the videos! The support and positive feedback always Keeps me motivated to keep putting out content!
a lot of enthusiasts don't want to have the turbo engine with CVT, they rather have a manual version... imagine buying a wrx cvt, it doesnt make much sense... a lot of these other turbo suvs got awesome transmissions like DCT... CVT is not very well liked and subaru uses it for most of their cars, which alienates some buyers imho.
Yea I would be much happier without the CVT but I’m invested now and am learning when to push it, when to let it cool down and when torque is enough and when it’s not and momentum is my friend
Wait... I know this is an old comment, but you don't have a digital speedometer in your '19? Mine had that. Also, agree big time about the ventilated seats!
running a vehicle on premium fuel always gets you more km's (miles) i did the test 20 years ago with a car that ran on both (old australian skyline) i always got more kms per tank when running on 98RON (93MON)
Yep haha. I love my XT but Subaru’s inconsistency is pretty annoying. But from what I hear it’s been remedied in the 19+ models so at least they improved. I’m more annoyed by the lack of tire pressure readout than anything
Agreed. My other gripe, along with the tire pressure readout, is not having a guage for front to back and side angles. Another thing that 2019+ has, but was overlooked in the sj generation. All in all I love my rig though.
La puerta automática del maletero, se abre y se cierra muy lento. No tiene indicador de temperatura del agua del motor en el panel de instrumentos, solo un indicador de un símbolo (termómetro) de color azul cuando el motor está frío. El espejo retrovisor interior no es fotocromatico, desconozco si será solo para las unidades destinadas a Latinoamérica.
Hi, Great Foz you have there. You stated yours is a 2018 XT Limited? I thought they only came in Premium and Touring for the XT Trim. I have the Premium 2018 XT White like yours and your Dash looks exactly like mine. I know the Touring dash is a little fancier, just curious, thanks.
I have a 2014 Fozzy XT. Best vehicle I've ever owned. I've never even noticed the things you griped about. Well, except perhaps the hatch lighting, or lack thereof. It is truly awful. Now I need to go watch the 5 things you like.
I got a 2018 2.5i base model! It has a moonroof, roof rails, aftermarket perforated leather “jeep seats” as I call them, alloys, and mud flaps. I slapped crossbars on it, and want to slap some Falken Wildpeaks on it when the crappy Sailuns that were on it wear out. Base model 2.5i Foresters are awesome! Its like having a Jeep but with 2 less inches of ground clearance and better gas mileage.
@Michael & Nancy Mitchell I’m shopping for Foresters right now and deciding between the 2.5 and 2.0XT. That’s a bold claim that the 2.5 manual is faster. 170hp vs 250hp...just doesn’t sound right to me. Got a source on it? (Not trying to pick a fight here, just want some real world examples of this claim)
The digital speedometer was first seen in a car in the 1970s. I wouldn't agree it's a luxury tho, it's just one way of showing speed. IMO, a glance on an analog speedometer will tell you your speed more quickly than digits
@@Shalom65 I'll be 60 in August and need glasses since I was around 12. I still think it's easier to see an "arrow" pointing. I don't need to see the actual digits on a car I know, I know what every angle of the "arrow" on an analog meter means in speed. No need to see the actual digits ...70..80...90 etc, you know where they are. We just differ in opinion, no biggie. Digital Speedos aren't more accurate, if they accurately would show speed in steps of 1 (Kph or mph) you'd just see a flickering of digits anyway.
@@bennylloyd-willner9667 I guess its merely a question to get used to it, since I've been driving cars with the digital display for some years. Sure I'll do it. Tks
I can easily live with all but one of your dislikes. I have a 2014 Foz XT, and i also miss a TPMS display, it can be read through the canbus so it should have been easy peasy for them to include that in the display
As an auto tech your wrong your car has a nock sensor that will automobility adjust your fuel input to safely run lower levels of fuel. all fuel injected cars have nock sensors so running 83 is perfectly safe only down side is slightly less hp. don't ask salesman ask a tech. for reference i only run 83 in all my vehicles and have done 300k on a turbo vw that called for high test with no problems fully stock engine, trans and turbo. shits a lie they tell you because big auto is parters with big oil
We have like 8 different read outs for MPG but no digital speedometer or digital tire pressure read out :-\ Also no transmission temp read out, only engine temp.
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS I know the models are different in the international market, but my euro 2016XT has a digital speedometer in the middle display between the two analog gauges. Can be activated with those menu paddles. Is that really not the case in your model?
@@hmpeter no sir 100% can’t. I know it sounds crazy. It’s an option on the touring model but not the premium. Sales pitch to go with a touring I guess? Lol
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Wow, that is really low from Subaru of America. And it would drive me crazy. Since the speedometer is not centered any more like in the old models, I cannot see it properly in a comfortable seat and steering wheel position.
As the original owner of a '17 XT Touring, now nearing 100,000 miles, my complaints are mostly about electronics design (as distinct from reliability) 1) I can't keep my key in my pocket with car parked in street, "butt unlocks" and stays that way all night 2) stereo cannot be muted when in Reverse - hugely distracting when you need sudden maneuver parallel parking 3) seat position memory loses its place for height slowly (goes to max if not reset every month or so) 4) power tailgate is slow balky and unpredictable. Yes my Touring model has a digital speedo. Premium fuel is merely "recommended" not required in my owner's manual, which states that no harm will be done by 87 AKI fuel but that performance may be degraded. Scientific data on octane requirements show that high octane is most needed during hot temperatures, dry humidity, low elevations, and high performance driving conditions, so during cool wet PNW winter not going on vacation trips, I cheat with regular fuel. No adverse effects so far. My car still has essentially zero oil consumption (still near max at 5000 mile changes) and has a lifetime average fuel economy of 22.4 mpg (lots of dense urban driving, but also many very long road trips).
@marksandstrom4248 My 2018 XT Touring allows you to lower the volume with the actual buttom when in reverse....you cannot mute or lower down the volume with the steering wheel buttons. I do it all the time.
@@tommymas1 my instinctive reach is for the head unit round knob, not the steering wheel buttons - in Reverse, the knob does nothing, neither when turned or when pushed.
I hate digital. I hate tablet screens. I do not need more blue light in my eyes. I work on a computer all day. Wait until you are age 60. You could top off 10% of your tank with E85 to simulate premium fuel at a discount. Agreed the hatch lighting is very poor.
I have a 2007 xt premium and I love the absence of all the digital crap. Travelled in my friends Hyundai crossover recently. There were so many dings I thought I was in travelling in a microwave.
First experience with a turbo. So did not know it required premium. And it was more of letting folks know when it comes to overlanding and long distance trips to expect higher fuel consumption and fuel expenses.
I have that SubieSpeed trunk light in my SJ and can confirm, it’s awesome. Should’ve come stock!
Just installed it today! Mine came with a blown fuse so gotta get a replacement but I’m excited to have it
We have larger digital screens and digital speedometers in our 2017 Forester 2.5i Premium with the Eye Sight Package, even though it ain’t an XT or Limited 😂. That’s surprising. I came from the Forester Reddit and subbed to see your new Headlight Video!!
Man that’s crazy. I hate inconsistency like that. Same how mine doesn’t have the assisted lift gate but a friend of mine has it on the same model... thanks for the sub! I’ll be doing the video here in the next few weeks. Keep in mind it’s a taillight video but the process is the same for the headlights!
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Ahh I see, that is one thing Subaru did weird for sure lol. I’ll still watch the taillight video, since I need some inspiration to mod my own Forester 😂. Cool car man, and I’m looking forward to the taillights :)
Appreciate the video. We have a 2017 XT and overall good car. Has the digital speedometer so must have dropped it in 2018. Weird. Our biggest pet peeve is the fro t passenger seat is uncomfortable, like sitting g on a rock, and has limited adjustment control.
Thanks for doing this, all these seem no major issues of the vehicle. For me, the biggest complaint is no a/c vent for the rear passenger. As you said for a 2018 model and the flagship SUV for Subaru; it is the most basic feature for its class. Even a 2007 BMW 3 series touring has it.
Yep they definitely cut a few corners. I still love Subaru and will always own one, but come on guys.
Even my 2000 Mercedes has it
All the missing features on your list were addressed in the newer generation Foresters except for the digital speedometer that is still not on the current-gen.
Something I wish my '19 had though was the XT's turbo engine. Hate how they discontinued it in the newer models. Would've been willing to spend a little more on gas for more power.
Also (I know this is more of a luxury thing) I wish they had the option of ventilated seats (offered on other models but not on the Forester) for the scorching summers here in SoCal.
Love the chill mood on your videos.
Yea looks like I missed the amenities by 1 year lol. BUT I definitely love having more power. In my 5 things I love video I’m working on, one of the things is definitely the turbo and boost in power!
Glad you like the videos! The support and positive feedback always Keeps me motivated to keep putting out content!
a lot of enthusiasts don't want to have the turbo engine with CVT, they rather have a manual version...
imagine buying a wrx cvt, it doesnt make much sense... a lot of these other turbo suvs got awesome transmissions like DCT... CVT is not very well liked and subaru uses it for most of their cars, which alienates some buyers imho.
Yea I would be much happier without the CVT but I’m invested now and am learning when to push it, when to let it cool down and when torque is enough and when it’s not and momentum is my friend
Wait... I know this is an old comment, but you don't have a digital speedometer in your '19? Mine had that. Also, agree big time about the ventilated seats!
Great video Sir. May i know where did you get that full height bar that is in your rear trunk?
running a vehicle on premium fuel always gets you more km's (miles) i did the test 20 years ago with a car that ran on both (old australian skyline)
i always got more kms per tank when running on 98RON (93MON)
So pretty much you bought a car without doing the proper/enough research on whether it had the features you wanted.
My 2017 2.5 has a digital speedometer readout. Accessed by clicking through the selectors by your info button on the steering wheel.
2.5’s and touring models were considered “luxury” for some reason and got them. 2.0 limited models like mine didnt. It’s so dumb
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS oh man that is pretty ridiculous. I'm annoyed for you haha.
Yep haha. I love my XT but Subaru’s inconsistency is pretty annoying. But from what I hear it’s been remedied in the 19+ models so at least they improved. I’m more annoyed by the lack of tire pressure readout than anything
Agreed. My other gripe, along with the tire pressure readout, is not having a guage for front to back and side angles. Another thing that 2019+ has, but was overlooked in the sj generation. All in all I love my rig though.
I feel that! Just checked out your channel! Just subbed. 🤙🏼
You can get a Cobb accessport and a tune for e87 if you want.
Honestly I’d rather spend that money on skids and other mods if I was gonna drop that much lol
Our 2018 XT Touring comes with a digital speedometer
La puerta automática del maletero, se abre y se cierra muy lento.
No tiene indicador de temperatura del agua del motor en el panel de instrumentos, solo un indicador de un símbolo (termómetro) de color azul cuando el motor está frío.
El espejo retrovisor interior no es fotocromatico, desconozco si será solo para las unidades destinadas a Latinoamérica.
Hi, Great Foz you have there. You stated yours is a 2018 XT Limited? I thought they only came in Premium and Touring for the XT Trim. I have the Premium 2018 XT White like yours and your Dash looks exactly like mine. I know the Touring dash is a little fancier, just curious, thanks.
I meant premium I don’t know why I had “limited” in my head when I did the edit lol. But you are 100% correct this is a premium model.
no digital readout is a plus for me...
I have a 2014 Fozzy XT. Best vehicle I've ever owned. I've never even noticed the things you griped about. Well, except perhaps the hatch lighting, or lack thereof. It is truly awful. Now I need to go watch the 5 things you like.
Yea I absolutely love my Subaru. I just figured I’d break down both sides of the fence for folks considering buying one
2014 XT here too. I run the regular 95 octane juice here in Sweden so no difference to other "normal" gasoline cars.
Hmm I have a 2018 fxt touring with a kenwood DMX1057XR head unit and I get individual tire pressure readouts 🤔
It’s because you have a touring. Apparently it was a “luxury” rather than a staple as it should be.
Bukele is that you?
I got a 2018 2.5i base model! It has a moonroof, roof rails, aftermarket perforated leather “jeep seats” as I call them, alloys, and mud flaps. I slapped crossbars on it, and want to slap some Falken Wildpeaks on it when the crappy Sailuns that were on it wear out.
Base model 2.5i Foresters are awesome! Its like having a Jeep but with 2 less inches of ground clearance and better gas mileage.
Damn. Only one year later, and $4/gallon would be a blessing 😭😭
Hahaha man you ain’t lying 🤣
The beard. The hat. The monotone voice. Wife me tf UP!
Done deal 😎
I just got the 2019 sport and they fixed all these gripes in it. The downside is they did away with the turbo :(
That’s what I hear! But I 100% would take the turbo over all those things. I’ll be talking about that lol n my upcoming “5 things I love” video
@Michael & Nancy Mitchell I’m shopping for Foresters right now and deciding between the 2.5 and 2.0XT. That’s a bold claim that the 2.5 manual is faster. 170hp vs 250hp...just doesn’t sound right to me. Got a source on it? (Not trying to pick a fight here, just want some real world examples of this claim)
The digital speedometer was first seen in a car in the 1970s. I wouldn't agree it's a luxury tho, it's just one way of showing speed. IMO, a glance on an analog speedometer will tell you your speed more quickly than digits
You are right. But when we get older we don't see tiny numbers as fast as you, and the digital use to be easier.
@@Shalom65 I'll be 60 in August and need glasses since I was around 12. I still think it's easier to see an "arrow" pointing. I don't need to see the actual digits on a car I know, I know what every angle of the "arrow" on an analog meter means in speed. No need to see the actual digits ...70..80...90 etc, you know where they are. We just differ in opinion, no biggie. Digital Speedos aren't more accurate, if they accurately would show speed in steps of 1 (Kph or mph) you'd just see a flickering of digits anyway.
@@bennylloyd-willner9667 I guess its merely a question to get used to it, since I've been driving cars with the digital display for some years. Sure I'll do it. Tks
Nice tattoos dude
Thanks man ✌🏼
I can easily live with all but one of your dislikes. I have a 2014 Foz XT, and i also miss a TPMS display, it can be read through the canbus so it should have been easy peasy for them to include that in the display
Those non factory STI seats? Ebay Recaro bolt right in.
No those are the ones that come with the xt premium. They’re OEM heated seats with fake leather
is there no after market digital speedometer you can get?
They make them but I don’t care to have someone aftermarket wired up and on my dash. Like I said, more of an annoyance than a necessity.
But I do remember them having the digital speedometer for the xt for the touring I believe
Yea the touring had it programmed in, as an “upgrade” lol
As an auto tech your wrong your car has a nock sensor that will automobility adjust your fuel input to safely run lower levels of fuel. all fuel injected cars have nock sensors so running 83 is perfectly safe only down side is slightly less hp. don't ask salesman ask a tech. for reference i only run 83 in all my vehicles and have done 300k on a turbo vw that called for high test with no problems fully stock engine, trans and turbo. shits a lie they tell you because big auto is parters with big oil
I have a 2018 Forster xt touring and I never knew about the premium gas I’ve been putting unleaded in it for the last year and a half lol
Nooooooooo!!!! Lol my buddy does it too and hasn’t had issues. Everytime I’ve tried I notice major hesitation and even stuttering on acceleration
We have like 8 different read outs for MPG but no digital speedometer or digital tire pressure read out :-\ Also no transmission temp read out, only engine temp.
Right??? *facepalm*
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS I know the models are different in the international market, but my euro 2016XT has a digital speedometer in the middle display between the two analog gauges. Can be activated with those menu paddles. Is that really not the case in your model?
@@hmpeter no sir 100% can’t. I know it sounds crazy. It’s an option on the touring model but not the premium. Sales pitch to go with a touring I guess? Lol
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS Wow, that is really low from Subaru of America. And it would drive me crazy. Since the speedometer is not centered any more like in the old models, I cannot see it properly in a comfortable seat and steering wheel position.
I have a digital speedometer on my 2018 forester xt limited..
I don’t. So maybe half way through the year they updated. Do you have a 2.0 or 2.5?
You sure it’s not a touring? Tourings had it Bc it was deemed an “upgrade”
What are you drinking?
Starbucks Nitro Cold Brew
Sounds like a noisy cabin?
Roof basket, AT tires and a lift will do that lol
Feel you on the premium gas! It’s currently $2.53 NZD per litre here...
THATS IT??
Yea I actually just calculated it and that’s like $1.98 USD....it’s like $3.90 USD currently in my hometown.
@@2000rayc that’s per litre (3.78 litres in 1 gallon).
@@WEEKENDWNDR3RS cail that would be between 5 and 6
Gasp* y’all got all the good scenery though. I’d pay that amount just to have the access you guys do out west
My 2018 XT Touring has a digital speedometer. Of course you pay a significant premium for the Touring model.
You would think it should be a staple not an upgraded feature
As the original owner of a '17 XT Touring, now nearing 100,000 miles, my complaints are mostly about electronics design (as distinct from reliability) 1) I can't keep my key in my pocket with car parked in street, "butt unlocks" and stays that way all night 2) stereo cannot be muted when in Reverse - hugely distracting when you need sudden maneuver parallel parking 3) seat position memory loses its place for height slowly (goes to max if not reset every month or so) 4) power tailgate is slow balky and unpredictable. Yes my Touring model has a digital speedo. Premium fuel is merely "recommended" not required in my owner's manual, which states that no harm will be done by 87 AKI fuel but that performance may be degraded. Scientific data on octane requirements show that high octane is most needed during hot temperatures, dry humidity, low elevations, and high performance driving conditions, so during cool wet PNW winter not going on vacation trips, I cheat with regular fuel. No adverse effects so far. My car still has essentially zero oil consumption (still near max at 5000 mile changes) and has a lifetime average fuel economy of 22.4 mpg (lots of dense urban driving, but also many very long road trips).
You can lower the volume when going in reverse but not with using the steering wheel buttons but simply using the volume knob on the stereo.
@@tommymas1 that's definitely false for my early 2017 model. I've got H-K stereo, which might affect the question, I don't know.
@marksandstrom4248 My 2018 XT Touring allows you to lower the volume with the actual buttom when in reverse....you cannot mute or lower down the volume with the steering wheel buttons. I do it all the time.
@@tommymas1 my instinctive reach is for the head unit round knob, not the steering wheel buttons - in Reverse, the knob does nothing, neither when turned or when pushed.
@marksandstrom4248 Works for me. You should have yours checked or even ask on Subie forums. Even worked on my 2014 XT Touring. 🤷♂️
I hate digital. I hate tablet screens. I do not need more blue light in my eyes. I work on a computer all day. Wait until you are age 60. You could top off 10% of your tank with E85 to simulate premium fuel at a discount. Agreed the hatch lighting is very poor.
My 2002 honda has digital speedo.
Exactly my point...
Man! You have an FXT, can not complain about fuel! wtf.
you look like Nayib Bukele
4 dollars a gallon... seems cheap to me lol
This 2018 model doesn't even have Android auto / carplay 🤦♂️
I have a 2007 xt premium and I love the absence of all the digital crap. Travelled in my friends Hyundai crossover recently. There were so many dings I thought I was in travelling in a microwave.
Buys a turbo Forester and complains and having to use premium fuel and the fuel consumption...🙄
Other points are good.
First experience with a turbo. So did not know it required premium.
And it was more of letting folks know when it comes to overlanding and long distance trips to expect higher fuel consumption and fuel expenses.
Watch my other video and I literally list the turbo as also one of my favorite things. It’s a double edged sword, my friend.