They probably won't leak by not locking the release thread but this is only the case with j and g fittings not all. Main thing is to ensure you push all the way in!
Even without tightening it, try pulling the pipe out. You won’t succeed. Speedfit is fantastic. And I say that as someone who is not a plumber and who can solder. That said, that pipework is crazy! 😂
Being at the end of a blown speed-fit joint i would always lock the securing nut. If its there why not..Especially on mains cold water where pressures are higher and hot water. Speedfit used correctly is great,no doubt about it but it was a problem here due to the requirements of the water heater(expansion and heat) and good practice. As you say as it has allowed many people to plumb who have never soldered etc. This was a proper dogs dinner of an install and put right after although.
@@COUPEDUMMY the nut is actually only there to prevent accidental removal, it doesn't lock the fitting it locks the removal collar, I used to think the same
Agreed,the seal is made by the o-ring but the locking nuts helps secure the fitting to the pipework with less movement and chances of blowing the fitting from pipework. This more important here as we are on an unvented water heater without any expansion vessel. The fittings did hold actually, but the locking nut are there for a reason. They state a guarantee on these fittings but as always id imagine only if they installed as per speed fit instructions. I'm happier to use this type than one without the nut after seeing one of the existing fittings blow away in a house,causing a flooded kitchen. Would solder ideally tho all day long.
I have attached a link. Those clips are for fittings without locking nut. You might, as you stated, prefer solder copper, but "Bad plumbing speed fit..." is an unfair statement in my opinion. NOTE: I do not sell speedfit
Rodrigo Martinez it is a bad plumbing install to be fair. If it soldered,compression or tectite I would have stated the same with those as the heading. Not knocked these fittings just stated how they were found.Yup forgot about the collets. Deffo worth the mention thanks.👍 Not required for twist and lock tho. Also taken from there site. "Added Benefit of Twist and Lock Twist the screwcap until it touches the body flange. This locks the pipe into position and increases the ‘O’ ring seal around the pipe for greater security." As above not knocking them tho, there used everywhere to good effect just this particular install is rough.
Fuck all wrong with speedfit if used correctly, I use alot for repairs under floors, saves time and money of having to drop a system and reinstate inhibitor which isn't cheap. The retaining nuts only need to be hand tight on the jg fittings. 9/10 the customer doesn't care what concealed pipework looks like only whats on show does matter.
Completely agree to be honest , this was a dogs dinner though and installed on an unvented water heater with no expansion. Used correctly I have no issues with a speed fit install especially longer runs under floors with minimal joints..
@@COUPEDUMMY we all have our preferences mate, and for the expansion it all depends on the manufacturers spec some water heaters don't require expansion until like 3metres of pipe run.
@@nicodavies9124 agreed. This one certainly didn’t. Directly under the sink within 1m or so… that’s it really, sticking to manufacturers instructions. Good to have healthy debate about uses and techniques!
Nathan Bertram ... agreed absolute mess. I'm a gas safe engineer. Needless to say all pipework and pushfit fittings were removed and started again, installing vessel and waterless trap. Rerouted pipework,Soldered fittings with I think a couple compression of the top off the new heater. This was a recent refit in a commercial premises. Last 18months. As over 1 year the client won't chase them back up.
yes, seen a fair share of rotten cabinets from condensation and quite hot on leigionalla awareness here . plumbing is not policed in the uk so alot of bad work is out there waiting for problems to occur.
YOUNG MAN U HAVE TOO MANY : " L " FITTING , U NEED ELBOW SUPPORT / OVER ALL U NEED QUAILTY OF WATER NOT WATER PRESS ! SAFING U FROM FIXING LEAK ALL THE TIME ?.
They probably won't leak by not locking the release thread but this is only the case with j and g fittings not all. Main thing is to ensure you push all the way in!
Even without tightening it, try pulling the pipe out. You won’t succeed.
Speedfit is fantastic. And I say that as someone who is not a plumber and who can solder.
That said, that pipework is crazy! 😂
Being at the end of a blown speed-fit joint i would always lock the securing nut. If its there why not..Especially on mains cold water where pressures are higher and hot water.
Speedfit used correctly is great,no doubt about it but it was a problem here due to the requirements of the water heater(expansion and heat) and good practice.
As you say as it has allowed many people to plumb who have never soldered etc. This was a proper dogs dinner of an install and put right after although.
@@COUPEDUMMY the nut is actually only there to prevent accidental removal, it doesn't lock the fitting it locks the removal collar, I used to think the same
"O" ring makes the seal, not the nut.
Check Speedfit features.
You might not like it, but it's sound.
Agreed,the seal is made by the o-ring but the locking nuts helps secure the fitting to the pipework with less movement and chances of blowing the fitting from pipework. This more important here as we are on an unvented water heater without any expansion vessel. The fittings did hold actually, but the locking nut are there for a reason. They state a guarantee on these fittings but as always id imagine only if they installed as per speed
fit instructions. I'm happier to use this type than one without the nut after seeing one of the existing fittings blow away in a house,causing a flooded kitchen. Would solder ideally tho all day long.
I have attached a link.
Those clips are for fittings without locking nut.
You might, as you stated, prefer solder copper, but "Bad plumbing speed fit..." is an unfair statement in my opinion.
NOTE: I do not sell speedfit
Rodrigo Martinez it is a bad plumbing install to be fair. If it soldered,compression or tectite I would have stated the same with those as the heading. Not knocked these fittings just stated how they were found.Yup forgot about the collets. Deffo worth the mention thanks.👍
Not required for twist and lock tho.
Also taken from there site.
"Added Benefit of Twist and Lock
Twist the screwcap until it touches the body flange. This locks the pipe into position and increases the ‘O’ ring seal around the pipe for greater security."
As above not knocking them tho, there used everywhere to good effect just this particular install is rough.
Nothing neatest than soldered copper, that is a sure fact.
Thanks for sharing and debating!
Discussions all good, keeps the videos current! I do try and reply as much as possible.
These speedgits are actually wuiye effective just push in and tighten it super good
Fuck all wrong with speedfit if used correctly, I use alot for repairs under floors, saves time and money of having to drop a system and reinstate inhibitor which isn't cheap. The retaining nuts only need to be hand tight on the jg fittings. 9/10 the customer doesn't care what concealed pipework looks like only whats on show does matter.
Completely agree to be honest , this was a dogs dinner though and installed on an unvented water heater with no expansion. Used correctly I have no issues with a speed fit install especially longer runs under floors with minimal joints..
@@COUPEDUMMY we all have our preferences mate, and for the expansion it all depends on the manufacturers spec some water heaters don't require expansion until like 3metres of pipe run.
@@nicodavies9124 agreed. This one certainly didn’t. Directly under the sink within 1m or so… that’s it really, sticking to manufacturers instructions. Good to have healthy debate about uses and techniques!
why not install regular copper fittings, he spent far more on compreszions
Who ever installed that.. is not a plumber...!
Bpec registered ?
Nathan Bertram ... agreed absolute mess. I'm a gas safe engineer. Needless to say all pipework and pushfit fittings were removed and started again, installing vessel and waterless trap. Rerouted pipework,Soldered fittings with I think a couple compression of the top off the new heater. This was a recent refit in a commercial premises. Last 18months. As over 1 year the client won't chase them back up.
Reuben Ahmed please tell me u lagged the pipework within 1meter.. here in Jersey c.i we get policed on this daily.. keeps us a good name
yes, seen a fair share of rotten cabinets from condensation and quite hot on leigionalla awareness here . plumbing is not policed in the uk so alot of bad work is out there waiting for problems to occur.
That's one hell of a dog's dinner 🙄
Just solder the pipe. Hacks everywhere calling them selfs plumbers
sound job speedfit have over 10 year guarantee now
dude...what the hell kind of plumbing maze you got going on there!?!
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Tundish!!!!
I would never use this system of joining pipes together
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YOUNG MAN
U HAVE TOO MANY : " L " FITTING , U NEED ELBOW SUPPORT / OVER ALL U NEED QUAILTY OF WATER NOT WATER PRESS !
SAFING U FROM FIXING LEAK ALL THE TIME ?.
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