The Four Stages of Armwrestling | Armwrestling Theory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Its time to theorise a system for armwrestling. Our sport is a beautiful sport, and when teaching anyone a step by step system or set of objectives they should be trying to implement, I believe these in a basic sense are exactly that....a step by step pathway to victory
1. Secure a hand and wrist base of power (a postion of your hand and wrist that you can be certain you can add finishing pressures to without losing connection to your base)
2. Reduce your opponents base of power (attack the integrity of their hand / rotation to limit their finishing power pressue potential)
3. Separate your opponent from their base of power......(bring them to your side of the table, further away from their body.)
4. Overwhelm them with side or down pressure, subsequently winning the match
Where all this leads, is deeper and more refined thought, which leads to deeper understanding and subsequently better armwrestling all round .
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a solid and logical approach explaining the sport like you did, good stuff
Cheers brother. Hopefully many are able to utilise this thinking to further their game
Again iam here...watched all your video since the beginning including the rehab one 6-7yrs ago ...love your channel..#stay strong
Step 0 take everything allowable in the set up .also maybe things like hand control and taking centre happen simultaneously or could be ether way round cheer
Good stuff man
Devon and Bowen - Extremely imp for the professional improvement of these sport.We need to hit Olympics faster.
I am new to arm wrestling, and watching Devon really got me started... but i was a martial artist for over 30 years of my life. And what you are saying is totally true.
I was lucky enough to get my first table time... and the first things i noticed was how much information was transferable. Often it was small angles or a different ideas for footwork. Or some moves in arm wrestling that are the reverse of things i knew in martial arts. And it lead to many different talks about bonelines other ideas about the kickback position.
After that day i want to consider myself as a arm wrestler, but i approach it as a martial artist. These kind of talks will share perspectives that will change ideas, and that changes mind. I love it man!
good stuff !!
Love the concept and application of training for specific stages of a match. How would you go about identfiying the weak points in your game, which stage and which strength, so you can work on them?
I love this video! Reminds me of how child chess prodigy Josh Waitzkin applied war/battle principles in his high level chess and martial arts training and matches.
I love out thinking my opponents
There still are opponents where it will be just impossible to secure hand position. Step 1, weakest link of the chain. I'd say, IF you manage to get to and beyond Step 1, your analysis is right and it will work out. Still, there are freaks breaking throu the strongest defense.
These videos are gold bro. It's very helpful to see the sport through this sort of perspective.
I like these tipe of video's
i've been thinking for about 6 months as well and just got to a table for the first time last week. that's when i realized i dont know shit
Ryan where do you see arm wrestling in 10 years?
What's the difference between soft counter and hard counter? I also heard you talk about traps and dead spaces (if that is what that is called)...
Love the theorizing tho... The best part of it all.
Well Ryan relating to your 10:05 mark when you saying you was the weaker men and won. Well that means you were'nt that much weaker. You were only that little bit weaker where,you could apply your combat knowledge,tehcniques to win. But if just that person would have been even 5 % stronger then he was,tehcniques wouldn't have mattered. My take on this sport, what i have absorbed ,learned over getting close to 2 years is that,the main thing is how strong you are.Technique at the end of the day is irrelevant in front of enough greater strength.I don't think it is ever any use to delay yoursef in learning only techniques and not getting stronger. You learn tehcniques along the way while you get stronger.And how much you gonna learn is gonna be enough,cause when you are that stronger ,you just go through any technique. And on your way to becoming strongest armwrestler in the world,when you meet your match ,just learn the techniques. There will be plenty of chances to learn as when you start weak and progress,cause in for long time there is gonna always be someone stronger but never stop your strength gain ,just to learn tehcnique only, in my opinion.
i have doubts about step 3 being simply getting your opponent to your side of the table. while this is a strength i know im good at and one that i prioritize in a match, there are a few people who dont mind me dragging them to my side of the table, and they still beat me ( i can name these specific individuals, theyre very stong and really dont mind the separation as they can usually take it back), these opponents usually prioritize cup and shoulder position, so i would attack those instead of simply bringing their hand away from their body. aside from that, this is a very intuitive way of looking at the sport, i like it. from a technical level it sounds like how i usually train and approach the table, so im glad im on what seems to be a decent trajectory to being good at this :P
I believe there might be a small thing you missed in the video. There s a reason why step 3 is placed third. The first 2 are much more important. Securing your hand as best as possible while compromising theirs as much as possible is much more impactful than anything else hence their placements as first and second. The separation is ranked third and is more of a bonus than anything else to bleed your opponent in working more than you while stage 4 mostly allows you to finish the match that you basically already won by completely controling the match.
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What u think about short range pulling on cable machine? Thanks for answers
If u want to be a flash pin toproller... Do you need crazy side pressure? New here.
Went to my first practice yesterday.
Elbows....f$&ked.
JM presses and French presses. Low to medium weight for plenty of reps. Make these your friends
I swear it ll get better after the first 6 months... minimum. 😅 just pull progressively , don t do any matches with ready go , spar with people you trust they know what their doing and know when you get in risky/bad positions. Ask them if they can explain why each position you enter is risky ( when they point out that you entered in one ) and ask for their advice on how to avoid getting into them again and how you can know you are in one. Preferably spar with stronger opponents that don t have a big ego and pull too hard/fast but instead teach you how to pull , defend , stay safe , position yourself at the table etc. It s better to be the one on the offensive and to pull in a progressive controled and technical manner especially if your opponent isn t too egotistical and let s himself get pinned so you can work your angles and technique. If you re the one getting pinned too frequiently you will be hurting too much the first months. Maybe even have small injuries. Just my personal opinion on how to avoid getting hurt and too much useless pain while still working hard and be productive.
And listen to what bowen just said. Those exercises are your best friends from now on.
Dark Devil thanks to both of you. Yesterday we did mostly slow start with a strap. No ready go hits or anything. Had Mr Belew and his son Dakota explain quite a bit. I learned a lot about setting up. Hopefully next time Ryan is in Bama I can get to Alex city or wherever and learn more.
@@dewaynemizzell7009 Film it! 😂 And also you can record yourself from a good angle to see what mistakes or improvements you are making over time. It s motivational to look at them and see how you progress from a technical point of view too not just raw numbers or power.
Great videos Ryan... can u tell me what type of training is better, Todd side pressure training or classic pulley?
Vector selection for training really depends on what you have assessed as your weakness in your game. Good style vectors and hook drag style vectors both serve their purpose.
I did bjj for years and years, just switched to arm wrestling like 4 months ago. A lot of the concepts are the same: control, distance management, leverage, setting traps, timing, etc. I arm wrestle like I grappled, position before submission (super common saying in bjj). I'm new to pulling but if you want to talk about any of that stuff hit me up.
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Legend. Thank you for your support
Lmao. Wtf.