@@EvonneMoorewhy would God punish businessmen for making money? That isn't a sin is it? Doesn't everybody do whatever they can to sell high and buy low? I think it's a hitjob
It's called coincidence. I don't think anyone has the power to whistle up a gargantuan storm when it's convenient. And if you think 'god did it' you are just daft.
To clarify a bit on this video - Mike beat the case in the States - the civil and the criminal case. It is only the UK case(s) that are currently pending. People have committed murder for 5💶. We are talking about $8 billion here, 8 billion from 13 years ago - which would be worth around $20 billion now, on top of the lost market capitalization for HP. As HP would have been the first to offer services that are now predominantly covered by Amazon's AWS - 4 years earlier - a best guess estimate would add about $50 billion + in additional loss of potential profit. Black Rock and Vanguard were substantial holders of HP stock and actually increased their existing holdings by 14% & 18% respectively within the 4 months before and immediately following the acquisition of Mike's company. Not only did Mike and his daughter perish in the boat - so did both of his attorneys...just a couple of weeks after his partner was 'tragically' and 'accidentally' killed. Both the U.S. criminal and civil cases have been sealed - just weeks after closure. All the discovery documents and proceedings are forever locked away from public access - no case law or legal precedent can or ever will be drawn from either case. During the 3 days of diving on the wreck of the boat - there was not one mention of the damage to the boat that actually caused it to sink - only the interior debris field that made recovery of the bodies difficult. His partner was already dead in an accident (note that no charges were filed in that accident), Mike was gathered in a place of relative safety on an incredibly well engineered boat with his family and legal team - and now they all have also suffered a 'tragic' accident - meaning they can't speak on the details of the sealed proceedings either. Billions of lost dollars and all the people and legal documents related to that loss are literally gone. (My sincerest and deepest condolences to Mike's wife and surviving family 🙏) Way, way too much convenient 'coincidence' here.
well documented that thesecret service agents of mi5 and mi6 do it through cars. they are trained to do it. john hopkins,ex mi5 agent, confessed on his deathbed to being instructed to carry out the hit on diana and drove the fiat car in the tunnel in paris that caused the crash. he was directed by philip schleswig holstein sondenberg. Its also worth noting that 6 months prior to this that camillas car engine is said to have 'mysteriously' exploded when she was in the car, at the time when charles had impregnated 'royal' nanny tiggy legge bourke.. it has also been reported that mi6 had deployed on that 'unsuccessful' job that camilla escaped from. And lets not forget the former mi5 agents who disposed of young boys on ted heaths yacht-who had been raped and were dumped in the sea as part of their 'duties'.
He didn't fall of a boat. The whole 300 foot yacht was overturned by a freak storm. You have to be really conspiracy minded to believe any government can generate freak weather events that kill certain people and not others on the same boat.
@gzk6nk The easiest way is the rig the belts so they won't clip. Most people give up after trying twice. As for the driver being drunk, there's video of him bending over just before they left, he looks fine. The theory is the blood sample was a suicide victim, the blood also had enough CO2 to render him unconscious.
I am amazed that some vengeful group can call up a waterspout at 4 in the morning to get even with a shady billionaire. Shit happens, to quote Forrest Gump.
Way WAY W A Y too coincidental! Two freaky 1 in a million chance deaths, occurring not only to the 2 co defendants, but on the same day just days after their acquittal…. Oh and their lawyer who got them off was also killed on the boat !
I think my cat may be involved in this tragedy. He looked really Guilty when it was on the news. The same look he had on his face after he pissed on my headphones.
@stephfoxwell4620 You've done the calculations, have you ? Can you explain precisely WHO is supposed to have murdered these people and WHY ? Also what exact motive and benefit would they derive from it ? Arranging hits, let alone arranging a water spout typhoon and a heatwave in Sicily takes some SERIOUS planning.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw No. I simply worked out the approximate chance of two multimillionaire business partners dying in freak accidents within 48 hours of each other. I made no speculation beyond that.
Lynch and Chamberlain were found not guilty by a jury/juries in San Francisco. Two aspects of this case mystify me: Firstly, the behaviour of Hewlett Packard, which makes me think of corporate mismanagement, and scondly the ludicrous extradition treaty which David Blunkett "negotiated", which only seems to work in favour of the US. The Lynch-Chamberlain case could have been tried entirely in the UK.
I do sympathise with HP on this. They paid good money but were sold a dog. This is the unfortunate face of the British tech industry. It is nasty, dishonest and thinks everyone owes it a living for creating no more than BS and sharp suits.
Well said! Why countries comply to the US extradition requests when the US refuse to extradite any US citizen, beggars belief. Surely this policy should be reciprocal. Secondly, however powerful the CIA are, creating a tornado is probably beyond even their limits. Condolences to the families, may the deceased rest in peace🙏🏽
@@GaiusSonofGermanicus I fully understand one being pissed at climate deniers and their cynicism but Steph has got it right. The sinking of that yacht was allegedly caused be a freak waterspout which used to be pretty rare but increasingly frequent because of the heating of the shallow Med. That's how the reporting went.
Unexplained multi-billion pound write-downs are renowned for making luxury yachts unstable. It made Robert Maxwell's yacht so unstable that he accidentally fell overboard during the night. It's a known phenomenon.
Says what all? It's irrelevant. He was an academic who built up a medium sized IT company, but seems to have acquired a dodgy accountant. Not the first time. Not his fault.
The weirdest part is that my local newspaper reported on this happening and kind of just stated all these dudes drowned during their victory lap on a boat and ‘oh one of them wasnt on the boat but he was jogging and got hit and killed by a car at the time’ nothing weird at all, end if article. This is exactly why I never again will believe a word these people write.
But at 56ish metres and with an [albeit aluminium/light] mast height in excess of 71metres then, add 'waterspouts' and wild storm conditions AND you've 'dropped the hook' (aka anchor) THEN you have a sure recipe for DISASTER....and I speak with 8 years of long bygone seafaring experience.
@@biggerthanacadillac It is odd that the divers said there were several electrical cables on the bridge. I wonder if they were shore supply through a buoy?
I'm the furthest from a conspiracy theorist you’ll find on the internet, but just like you, my spidey senses are tingling, what are the chances of both of them popping their clogs
So the CIA / FBI / the Freemasons / Illuminati / WEF / the Rothschilds / Hewlett Packard / The Labour Party, (please select favourite conspiratorial suspect as appropriate,) managed to whip up a small typhoon off the Sicilian coast, and using their powers of prophesy knew precisely when to do it and who would survive ? It's pretty skilful of them at the very least.
well mighty God, if u can tell me how a mini tornado over the ocean at 3am was faked, which flipped a yacht, im all ears. And the storm was confirmed locally. And the killers were so nasty they killed Lynchs 18 yr old daughter, collateral damage i presume. He also did not fall overboard, he was found drowned in his cabin. Many wealthy criminals, and i suspect Lynch was deemed one, go through the same process but dont get mysteriously killed. Its all conjecture. Many vacuous people involved in the legal case in US would view this as justice, but it was purely fate, a fate his daughter, or the other deceased, did not deserve at all.
Are we turning Prof into a thinking man or woman's sex symbol. My son rather thinks Iam watching Father Christmas out of season. Then he is only five and half.
@@calderjack7818 100% you are still plugged into the Matrix, happily being spoonfed your sugary sweet concoction to keep you zoned out and complying. Look deeper.
Not sure where you’re getting your information from - Stephen Chamberlain was VP, not CFO (the CFO Sushovan Hussain was actually convicted and imprisoned for the Autonomy/HP fraud, so fraud was involved). Mike Lynch and Stephen Chamberlain managed to get acquitted in a separate trial, the trial’s finished so there’s no issue or any proceedings. If anything the yacht trip was organised by him to celebrate his trial success with his lawyers and friends who were involved - so this theory about legal challenges doesn’t exist.
Thanks good information! There is also theory of revenge and another of secret services (the company made finger print recognition) both of which are still upheld despite your good information.
I'm a yank that never heard of the guy, his company, or the court case with HP and I'm surprised because i like that kind of stuff. Anyway if he got acquitted after the dishonorable and corrupt dirty tricks FBI and DOJ went after him in court he has to be really innocent.
He was expecting to get 20 years. Another person from the company got 5 years for fraud. He was guilty, but £800 million gets you a good lawyer. He even said himself, it was his money that spared him.
You aught really to get you facts right, before slandering dead people. Autonomy was a publicly listed company with a valuation determined by the markets. Autonomy was not put up for sale, but it was HP who made the approach and bid for the company. On 18 August 2011, Hewlett-Packard announced that it would purchase Autonomy for US$42.11 per share with a premium of around( 79% ) over market price that was widely criticised as "absurdly high". HP cocked up and then tried to pin it on Lynch, who was cleared of all charges by US juries.
as a person of who spent 20 years at sea when i heard this story and seen the yacht i thought there could be issues didnt think i would end up hearing this story.
Considering how it takes relatively little money to have someone “bumped off” it is always worth a second look. That being said, there’s an awful lot of witnesses to this accident!
The more witness,s the better ,they can be fooled ,and the volume of witness,s makes the concoction of conflicting evidence helpful in muddying the waters ,quite literally
@@davidwilliams5124 That’s a good point. It certainly seems to have more questions as the days go by. I was looking at some of the TH-cam channels that focus on these super yachts, and they all have no answers as to why this yacht would sink. Let’s see what happens with this “accident” .
"No other boat was affected." So what ? Your point is what exactly ? Years ago I was on a sailing boat in the Solent with a (sketchy) sailing school. The sailing yacht was an second hand Contessa. We were caught in a bit of a squall and the main mast just crashed into the sea. While I cowered in the corner, as a complete novice, ("we're all going to die, we're doomed"), the superheroes on board leaped into action and managed to cut the mast loose, having the presence of mind to attach a beacon to it. We motored back to Southampton. The mast was later recovered. That night in the pub, there was talk about "Arthur Daley Yacht Brokers Ltd. Lovely boat. One careful lady owner, etc. (It WAS the 80s.) We were the only ones it happened to on that day. At no point were the CIA / MI5 / the Illuminati / Rothschilds etc involved. Accidents happen. Masts DO occasionally fall off boats into the sea. I was on the boat when it happened.
Small but powerful waterspouts have been known in the area for a long time. Dante actually describes one in _The Inferno_ which "struck the forepart of the ship and the prow went down", showing how small it was at sea level.
@EbenBransome Quite. "Sea monsters" are also described by Livy off the Sicilian coast, on the Tunisian side. When the Roman fleet was wrecked by storms during the Second Punic War, many Roman crewmen were eaten by the "sea monsters." For many years, it was thought that Livy was telling "fisherman's" stories. It was only fairly recently discovered that there's a colony of Great White Sharks between Tunisia and south west Sicily.
Well, there was another vessel skippered by a German. He was interviewed on television and it was he and his crew who picked up the 15 in the life raft. He said that he put his vessel under motor to ride the weather which would be the standard practice. The stricken boat was "behind" his before the squall and was not there when the squall was over. Squall is my word, not the description used by those who endured it. Lots to find out still but until Mr. lynch's body is found I would not rule anything out.
very strange the bbc reported this as him celebrating his acquittal - which happened in june in the US - in august then this happens as if we’ve to infer greedy billionaire celebrates stealing & gets his comeuppance? very strange reporting on this & how come not 1 other boat was effected
You're talking about the trial as if it were still ongoing? I thought they were cleared of all charges by a jury in June. My understanding is they were all on the yacht to celebrate the victory, along with many of the team involved in the trial after their ten year battle. Makes it all the more tragic and very strange circumstances, along with his vice president also dying in a completely separate incident the same week! Sad for all involved.
If something is not right here I truly hope their is a full investigation into it I am so sorry all these peoples life’s were lost especially the young girl who had so much life in front of her
Professor T. Wilson explains; 'I don't like conspiracies.' Well, that rather puts a very low ceiling on your capacity to be able to understand the real world. Not liking conspiracies is like saying, 'I don't like organised crime, or pedophile rings, or drug smuggling operations or secret intelligence using organised crime to solve difficult problems.' Why bother looking at the world with a 'dislike' of one of the fundamental methods we humans ALL use to get what we want?
I don't see how disliking conspiracies limits one's capacity to understand the real world? Just because you dislike something doesn't mean you are disregarding it as being a thing. I don't particularly like the idea of organised crime, but i'm not going to deny it exists.
@@robertdewar1752 Er....well. I don't think we completely disagree. I took '....dislike conspiracy...' to mean something like '....dislike conspiracies as a means of explaining.......' . The thing about a conspiracy, or a fraud for example; is that they are explicitly designed to look like something else. ie a 'freak' weather event, or maybe a 'lone gunman with no social media'. If we 'dislike' conspiracies as a possible explanation, we might be simply unable to identify them even when they are pretty obvious. Falling back on 'coincidence' or 'bad luck' as explanations. That's my view. Cheers.
It always puzzles me why some one with a company that has so much potential and wealth for the future. Would want to over price the valuation of hi# company. How rich do people want to be?
It's a massive stretch of the truth for a Yacht that size to all of a sudden have a breach in the Hull and sink in 50 meters of water ? Why anchor ⚓️ so deep ?
Yachts of that size can handle any weather in a bay , To be laid on its side & sink I find incredulous UNLESS there was an outside force , Very strange . Like to here the skippers take on this ' accident' ?
Inside force were the crew opening all the portholes so boat fills with water and the unsinkable sinks..strange that all the crew got out and only managed to save the young married couple with the baby…this boat was scuppered
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw I was being entirely facetious. Yes. I presume this was an appalling weather related accident. But that won't stop the conspiracy theorists.
As you mentioned, the uk government was involved in a conspiratorial manner in the post office scandal, words are important and the correct terms should be applied
A different take : Millionaires can afford to go to places where Nature can get you, and some do. Ordinary people can't afford to and mostly don't want to. Last year a millionaire wanted a close look at Titanic. This year a millionaire wanted to be on a luxury yacht in storm prone seas.
Apparently it was a large waterspout/mini tornado. There were apparently a number of other boats that had serious difficulties in staying afloat in that same area.
Surely HP did their due diligence as to capitalisation of Autonomy. It's certainly a mystery as to all these deaths happening at same time. Just goes to show even waste wealth does not save from tragedy.
It is both tragic and a massive coincidence that both subjects should die within a few days and less than a month after being exonerated in the USA. One cannot but be suspicious as to whether such a coincidence is likely to be down to pure chance. As a minimum, the British authorities should be investigating any links with Hewlett Packard and indeed having expert damage assessments made on the sunken yacht. There is probably nothing, but it should be ruled out properly as there are literally billons of Pounds involved and money does incredible things to people and organisations. Certainly a discreet investigation by UK security should be done and any results made public.
It is indeed odd. Perhaps the only useful comment I can make is that many years ago I had a conversation with an acquaintance who is a very rich (many millions) investor and she recounted a tale of someone else that she had done business with and who had defrauded her of a substantial amount but it turned out that he had also defrauded a number of others (unknown to her) and one day his life was ended by a hired killer’s bullet. She told me that in the mega millions investment world there are some very dangerous people who will kill you if you cross them.
These trials have highlighted a well-known reality, neither judges, nor attorneys, nor police, nor jury members have sufficient knowledge of corporate practices and policies to understand these classes of cases both in England and in the US. Indeed, if an individual with the appropriate and informed background, training, familiarity and expertise was called upon for jury service, they would not be selected, they would be anathema to both defence and prosecution. In these circumstances, acquittal is the odds on outcome and defendants continue to appeal until a favourable outcoming is achieved. These cases are complex, they require more than an amicus curiae; they also require specialist juries made up of people with appropriate backgrounds. Given their charge out rates these would be the most expensive trials in history.
These days, the difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory is six months.
Name one
More like 6 weeks😂
more like 6 hours 6 days 6 months
62 minutes, down from 62 years.
@@petermoran445 Still waiting
Not only him and his CFO died shortly after the acquittal, but his legal team as well. They were on the same boat......Spooky or what???
That’s called judgment from the Yahuah the Most High.
@@EvonneMoorewhy would God punish businessmen for making money? That isn't a sin is it? Doesn't everybody do whatever they can to sell high and buy low?
I think it's a hitjob
Perhaps some people weren't happy about the outcome of the court case acquittal?
It's called coincidence. I don't think anyone has the power to whistle up a gargantuan storm when it's convenient. And if you think 'god did it' you are just daft.
Mafia
To clarify a bit on this video - Mike beat the case in the States - the civil and the criminal case. It is only the UK case(s) that are currently pending.
People have committed murder for 5💶. We are talking about $8 billion here, 8 billion from 13 years ago - which would be worth around $20 billion now, on top of the lost market capitalization for HP. As HP would have been the first to offer services that are now predominantly covered by Amazon's AWS - 4 years earlier - a best guess estimate would add about $50 billion + in additional loss of potential profit.
Black Rock and Vanguard were substantial holders of HP stock and actually increased their existing holdings by 14% & 18% respectively within the 4 months before and immediately following the acquisition of Mike's company.
Not only did Mike and his daughter perish in the boat - so did both of his attorneys...just a couple of weeks after his partner was 'tragically' and 'accidentally' killed.
Both the U.S. criminal and civil cases have been sealed - just weeks after closure. All the discovery documents and proceedings are forever locked away from public access - no case law or legal precedent can or ever will be drawn from either case.
During the 3 days of diving on the wreck of the boat - there was not one mention of the damage to the boat that actually caused it to sink - only the interior debris field that made recovery of the bodies difficult.
His partner was already dead in an accident (note that no charges were filed in that accident), Mike was gathered in a place of relative safety on an incredibly well engineered boat with his family and legal team - and now they all have also suffered a 'tragic' accident - meaning they can't speak on the details of the sealed proceedings either.
Billions of lost dollars and all the people and legal documents related to that loss are literally gone. (My sincerest and deepest condolences to Mike's wife and surviving family 🙏)
Way, way too much convenient 'coincidence' here.
Absolutely
Very good comment
Nothing seems coincidental at this point
The old legal maxim, 'Follow the money' is probably the way forward....who benefits from the deaths of these two gentlemen?
Dr Nemesis
People/companies who will not be counter-sued as result of everyone involved being gone
@@OohHavana Bingo
Mike Lynch, and his Defence lawyer, also on board, have gone missing. Mr Chamberlain was run down while out jogging. That's 3 people. It is odd.
Two of the defence lawyers, and a defence witness too.
Defence lawyer representing Lynch, also represented Epstein and ...
Wait a minute. ... he was also involved in 9/11.
Bet he knew a lot!
‘Odd’ is an understatement!
Their banker was also onboard….
Is it odd or fully expected, like Epstein's "suicide"?
In Russia wealthy people often fall out of windows. Here it's boats and car accidents......
well documented that thesecret service agents of mi5 and mi6 do it through cars. they are trained to do it. john hopkins,ex mi5 agent, confessed on his deathbed to being instructed to carry out the hit on diana and drove the fiat car in the tunnel in paris that caused the crash. he was directed by philip schleswig holstein sondenberg. Its also worth noting that 6 months prior to this that camillas car engine is said to have 'mysteriously' exploded when she was in the car, at the time when charles had impregnated 'royal' nanny tiggy legge bourke.. it has also been reported that mi6 had deployed on that 'unsuccessful' job that camilla escaped from. And lets not forget the former mi5 agents who disposed of young boys on ted heaths yacht-who had been raped and were dumped in the sea as part of their 'duties'.
He didn't fall of a boat. The whole 300 foot yacht was overturned by a freak storm. You have to be really conspiracy minded to believe any government can generate freak weather events that kill certain people and not others on the same boat.
@@LdevArt What rot!
How did MI5 persuade Diana not to wear a seatbelt, and was it them who got her driver drunk?
Yes! Recall Robert Maxwell and Lord Mountbatten
@gzk6nk The easiest way is the rig the belts so they won't clip. Most people give up after trying twice.
As for the driver being drunk, there's video of him bending over just before they left, he looks fine.
The theory is the blood sample was a suicide victim, the blood also had enough CO2 to render him unconscious.
And the $8 billion question? Who are HP's biggest shareholders.... Blackrock and Vanguard.?
Alot of pension funds for ordinary people as well.
That's obviously a given
Well money is their god , and they don’t like loosing money.
@@paulmcgrath3835True
In the acquisition of that kind of wealth, I would assume one makes powerful enemies
So the moral of the story - don't overcharge HP.
Unlike their crappy printer consumables!
It's HP's own fault....they should just stick to making brown sauce.😉😁😂
HeHeHeh...thought it & you said it!
Didn’t know Harry Potter made sauce!
HP I'd basically a IS military industrial complex company, just like the rest of silicon Valley
Pah! Foriegn rubbish now, not made in Brummagen anymore but some faceless corpobox in Europe.
I am amazed that some vengeful group can call up a waterspout at 4 in the morning to get even with a shady billionaire. Shit happens, to quote Forrest Gump.
Seems like the all had the Beoing whistle blowers fate!! Al Capone USA is alive and kicking!!
You are incorrect they were found not guilty of fraud in a San Francisco Court in June of this year .
Their opponents clearly weren't happy with the verdict.
Way WAY W A Y too coincidental!
Two freaky 1 in a million chance deaths, occurring not only to the 2 co defendants, but on the same day just days after their acquittal….
Oh and their lawyer who got them off was also killed on the boat !
a 60 mt. yacht can't sink in 6 minutes unless someone is doing the sinking, both defendants were also found not guilty in the US.
Are you a naval architect?
Going against HP seems to be as dangerous as going against Boeing
Even small time criminals arrange accidents.
I think my cat may be involved in this tragedy. He looked really Guilty when it was on the news. The same look he had on his face after he pissed on my headphones.
@@paulderby2117 Good thing cats don’t have opposable thumbs 😼
@@mickg7299 Hi Mick. Dread the thought! All the Best
Made me laugh. Brilliant lol
Reporting it to police officer right now. Can't write details. Expect a visit.
😂
The perils of jogging in Cambridge and bad weather in the Mediterranean
It's a coincidence.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw A one in 15 billion coincidence.
I think HP might b hiring the same "legal team" as boeing used when it " settled out of court" wt thoae whistle blowes 😉
@stephfoxwell4620
You've done the calculations, have you ? Can you explain precisely WHO is supposed to have murdered these people and WHY ? Also what exact motive and benefit would they derive from it ? Arranging hits, let alone arranging a water spout typhoon and a heatwave in Sicily takes some SERIOUS planning.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw No.
I simply worked out the approximate chance of two multimillionaire business partners dying in freak accidents within 48 hours of each other.
I made no speculation beyond that.
Lynch and Chamberlain were found not guilty by a jury/juries in San Francisco.
Two aspects of this case mystify me:
Firstly, the behaviour of Hewlett Packard, which makes me think of corporate mismanagement, and scondly the ludicrous extradition treaty which David Blunkett "negotiated", which only seems to work in favour of the US.
The Lynch-Chamberlain case could have been tried entirely in the UK.
I do sympathise with HP on this. They paid good money but were sold a dog. This is the unfortunate face of the British tech industry. It is nasty, dishonest and thinks everyone owes it a living for creating no more than BS and sharp suits.
Well said! Why countries comply to the US extradition requests when the US refuse to extradite any US citizen, beggars belief. Surely this policy should be reciprocal.
Secondly, however powerful the CIA are, creating a tornado is probably beyond even their limits. Condolences to the families, may the deceased rest in peace🙏🏽
My post has gone walkies. We can't give our opinion on the British tech industry here. They don't like the truth.
Hmm. British branch of Fujitsu ====> Post office "Horizon" scandal.
Mike Lynch ======> Autonomy.
@livewarp
Quite. Weird coincidences happen. They are 1. Weird. 2. Coincidences.
BBC already blaming climate change.
And the Telegraph is blaming working mothers. What's your point?
Ha ha even GB ews ! Said about climate change
@@GaiusSonofGermanicus I fully understand one being pissed at climate deniers and their cynicism but Steph has got it right. The sinking of that yacht was allegedly caused be a freak waterspout which used to be pretty rare but increasingly frequent because of the heating of the shallow Med. That's how the reporting went.
And do not forget the butterfly flapping its wings?
So Mike Lynch invented climate change?!
Unexplained multi-billion pound write-downs are renowned for making luxury yachts unstable. It made Robert Maxwell's yacht so unstable that he accidentally fell overboard during the night. It's a known phenomenon.
He had been a non executive director of the BBC and a adviser to David Cameron! Says it all !
What does it say?
Says what all? It's irrelevant. He was an academic who built up a medium sized IT company, but seems to have acquired a dodgy accountant. Not the first time. Not his fault.
@@EbenBransome if you know you know
Another Israeli controller, controlling UK.
😢😢😢
OUTSTANDING ! FROM, U.K. (2024).
The weirdest part is that my local newspaper reported on this happening and kind of just stated all these dudes drowned during their victory lap on a boat and ‘oh one of them wasnt on the boat but he was jogging and got hit and killed by a car at the time’ nothing weird at all, end if article.
This is exactly why I never again will believe a word these people write.
Hmm, Maxwell falling off of a boat, hmm Lynch!!!!!
But maxwells yacht didn’t disappear, nor did everyone else on board have to be rescued from the sea, inc. an 8 month old baby.
@@francessimmonds5784Collateral damage.
@@giraffe-neck2068Because trained assassins commonly produce waterspouts out of their arse to carry out their grisly deeds?
But at 56ish metres and with an [albeit aluminium/light] mast height in excess of 71metres then, add 'waterspouts' and wild storm conditions AND you've 'dropped the hook' (aka anchor) THEN you have a sure recipe for DISASTER....and I speak with 8 years of long bygone seafaring experience.
@@biggerthanacadillac It is odd that the divers said there were several electrical cables on the bridge. I wonder if they were shore supply through a buoy?
Big corporations don't get big without some less than ethical practices and shady dealings.
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Lynch must have lynched plenty of unsuspecting victims during his fraudulent past. Robert Maxwell, another zionist, spy, and fraudster comes to mind,
I'm the furthest from a conspiracy theorist you’ll find on the internet, but just like you, my spidey senses are tingling, what are the chances of both of them popping their clogs
@@stuarto5162 One in 150 billion.
One in 15 billion
@@stuarto5162 About one in 15 billion I make it.
So the CIA / FBI / the Freemasons / Illuminati / WEF / the Rothschilds / Hewlett Packard / The Labour Party, (please select favourite conspiratorial suspect as appropriate,) managed to whip up a small typhoon off the Sicilian coast, and using their powers of prophesy knew precisely when to do it and who would survive ? It's pretty skilful of them at the very least.
A waterspout makes it a little bit more unlikely.
this is too coincidental !!! they both died within two days of each other??? come on!
well mighty God, if u can tell me how a mini tornado over the ocean at 3am was faked, which flipped a yacht, im all ears. And the storm was confirmed locally. And the killers were so nasty they killed Lynchs 18 yr old daughter, collateral damage i presume. He also did not fall overboard, he was found drowned in his cabin. Many wealthy criminals, and i suspect Lynch was deemed one, go through the same process but dont get mysteriously killed. Its all conjecture. Many vacuous people involved in the legal case in US would view this as justice, but it was purely fate, a fate his daughter, or the other deceased, did not deserve at all.
Fool if you think that
How come CNN was the first media on the scene at an hour when everyone is still in bed. How did CNN know. Italian media?
All I want to know is........Did they have the jab????
You are 50% more likely to die in a car or boating accident if you did...
@@Tom-sg4iv😂
😂😂😂
All some people want to know is about the jab. I hope not you.
They were found not guilty… they were celebrating winning the case on the yacht…
Prof Tim...you have a beautiful voice, the like of which is not often heard these days.
Agree 100%.......another's Monty Don, Gardeners' World anchorman. Delight to listen to such. King's English. Wonderful.
Are we turning Prof into a thinking man or woman's sex symbol. My son rather thinks Iam watching Father Christmas out of season. Then he is only five and half.
If you haven't already heard him then I'd recommend Iain McGilchrist (philosopher/neuroscientist/author).
@@agyemanboaten4385yes …l must agree with your son! …but his voice is rather wonderful isn’t it?
Boein did the same the to 2 workers taking them to court ??
There are no coincidences in life.
Too many coincidences means no coincidence at all. !!
What if it was your kid???
@@will7its did we watch the same video ???
@@shantishanti1949 His 18 yo daughter is missing too. Did you watch the video?
@@will7its your original response was poorly formed in that case.
@@shantishanti1949 I think one of my comments were deleted.....
"There's no such thing as coincidence, only the illusion of coincidence."
@chiganuggoo9929 of course there are coincidences, that's why they're called coincidences!
@@calderjack7818 100% you are still plugged into the Matrix, happily being spoonfed your sugary sweet concoction to keep you zoned out and complying. Look deeper.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck then it's a duck for sure. There is no honour amongst thieves.
Quack quack.
Or is she a witch???
Unless it's a decoy maybe eh!🙃🙃
The post office scandal has gone quiet, what's going on ?
Not sure where you’re getting your information from - Stephen Chamberlain was VP, not CFO (the CFO Sushovan Hussain was actually convicted and imprisoned for the Autonomy/HP fraud, so fraud was involved). Mike Lynch and Stephen Chamberlain managed to get acquitted in a separate trial, the trial’s finished so there’s no issue or any proceedings. If anything the yacht trip was organised by him to celebrate his trial success with his lawyers and friends who were involved - so this theory about legal challenges doesn’t exist.
Thanks good information! There is also theory of revenge and another of secret services (the company made finger print recognition) both of which are still upheld despite your good information.
@@mradventurer8104 yes, it is quite an intriguing coincidence - it certainly has the ingredients for a conspiracy given the connections
I'm a yank that never heard of the guy, his company, or the court case with HP and I'm surprised because i like that kind of stuff. Anyway if he got acquitted after the dishonorable and corrupt dirty tricks FBI and DOJ went after him in court he has to be really innocent.
He was expecting to get 20 years. Another person from the company got 5 years for fraud. He was guilty, but £800 million gets you a good lawyer. He even said himself, it was his money that spared him.
I heard him being interviewed. .Mr Lynch did say it was well known the prosecution didn't have a case. ..
@@lonelylantern9135 What he said was he was innocent and the money to defend himself when the system is designed to sweep you away.
we haven't called ourselves yanks for decades????!!!!!!!!!!
Tongue in cheek.
You aught really to get you facts right, before slandering dead people. Autonomy was a publicly listed company with a valuation determined by the markets. Autonomy was not put up for sale, but it was HP who made the approach and bid for the company. On 18 August 2011, Hewlett-Packard announced that it would purchase Autonomy for US$42.11 per share with a premium of around( 79% ) over market price that was widely criticised as "absurdly high". HP cocked up and then tried to pin it on Lynch, who was cleared of all charges by US juries.
Well then obviously nothing to see here and we'll all move on. Thx as always Tim
as a person of who spent 20 years at sea when i heard this story and seen the yacht i thought there could be issues didnt think i would end up hearing this story.
As always Professor Tim, fascinating!
David Kelly has joined the conversation.
Carry on carrying on Prof😊. You're groovin' xx
Somehow it’s a supernatural events that has pushed those people who take advantage to the extreme amount of money they have stolen from people.
I dont believe the truth will ever get out.
No mystery here ,follow the money.
Thanks. Good points.
Considering how it takes relatively little money to have someone “bumped off” it is always worth a second look. That being said, there’s an awful lot of witnesses to this accident!
The more witness,s the better ,they can be fooled ,and the volume of witness,s makes the concoction of conflicting evidence helpful in muddying the waters ,quite literally
@@davidwilliams5124 That’s a good point. It certainly seems to have more questions as the days go by. I was looking at some of the TH-cam channels that focus on these super yachts, and they all have no answers as to why this yacht would sink. Let’s see what happens with this “accident” .
yes but will any step forward .. best not to... at this moment
How did they make a storm to
And the witnesses who are left are small fry/ can be bought/ corrupted… didn’t even Netanyahu coin the phrase recently “ useful idiots”
Thank you! Bizzare odd and a legal saga most probably 💐💐💐
Also strange, apparently no other vessel in that area was affected.
This story will have legs no doubt.
"No other boat was affected."
So what ? Your point is what exactly ? Years ago I was on a sailing boat in the Solent with a (sketchy) sailing school. The sailing yacht was an second hand Contessa. We were caught in a bit of a squall and the main mast just crashed into the sea. While I cowered in the corner, as a complete novice, ("we're all going to die, we're doomed"), the superheroes on board leaped into action and managed to cut the mast loose, having the presence of mind to attach a beacon to it. We motored back to Southampton. The mast was later recovered. That night in the pub, there was talk about "Arthur Daley Yacht Brokers Ltd. Lovely boat. One careful lady owner, etc. (It WAS the 80s.) We were the only ones it happened to on that day. At no point were the CIA / MI5 / the Illuminati / Rothschilds etc involved. Accidents happen. Masts DO occasionally fall off boats into the sea. I was on the boat when it happened.
Small but powerful waterspouts have been known in the area for a long time. Dante actually describes one in _The Inferno_ which "struck the forepart of the ship and the prow went down", showing how small it was at sea level.
@EbenBransome
Quite. "Sea monsters" are also described by Livy off the Sicilian coast, on the Tunisian side. When the Roman fleet was wrecked by storms during the Second Punic War, many Roman crewmen were eaten by the "sea monsters." For many years, it was thought that Livy was telling "fisherman's" stories. It was only fairly recently discovered that there's a colony of Great White Sharks between Tunisia and south west Sicily.
Well, there was another vessel skippered by a German. He was interviewed on television and it was he and his crew who picked up the 15 in the life raft.
He said that he put his vessel under motor to ride the weather which would be the standard practice. The stricken boat was "behind" his before the squall and was not there when the squall was over. Squall is my word, not the description used by those who endured it.
Lots to find out still but until Mr. lynch's body is found I would not rule anything out.
@@michaelgoode9555 my TV said he was Dutch, not German.
What a wonderful speaker.thanks.
Reminds me of that Boeing whistleblower...
Except everyone had their day in court, what would anyone gain from this? Will the payments from the civil case get paid now?
There was multiple
Hp engineered a waterspout to sink a mega yacht with Mike Lynch on board? That's alot of effort to go to.
very strange the bbc reported this as him celebrating his acquittal - which happened in june in the US - in august then this happens as if we’ve to infer greedy billionaire celebrates stealing & gets his comeuppance? very strange reporting on this & how come not 1 other boat was effected
Well said Professor....still thought provoking.... 🤔
You're talking about the trial as if it were still ongoing? I thought they were cleared of all charges by a jury in June. My understanding is they were all on the yacht to celebrate the victory, along with many of the team involved in the trial after their ten year battle. Makes it all the more tragic and very strange circumstances, along with his vice president also dying in a completely separate incident the same week! Sad for all involved.
If something is not right here I truly hope their is a full investigation into it I am so sorry all these peoples life’s were lost especially the young girl who had so much life in front of her
odd isn't it
very odd indeed
Big boulders make big splashes.
Nothing to it.
Fishy tale indeed
@@colourist. All stories involving Davy Jones's Locker are fish tales but that doesn't make them fishy.
@@colourist. Not odd at all.
Thanks professor Tim
It is very odd indeed
Excellent analysis
No such thing as coincidence where blackrock and vanguard are concerned if there was coincidence then it was planned. 😮
Interesting. I understood that he had been acquitted in the US and that was the reason for the celebration. You have info to the contrary?
divine intervention
Lake Maggiore boat accident 2.0
You talk a hell of a lot of sense Tim. Well done.
It could be another Maxwell scenario.
Professor T. Wilson explains; 'I don't like conspiracies.' Well, that rather puts a very low ceiling on your capacity to be able to understand the real world. Not liking conspiracies is like saying, 'I don't like organised crime, or pedophile rings, or drug smuggling operations or secret intelligence using organised crime to solve difficult problems.' Why bother looking at the world with a 'dislike' of one of the fundamental methods we humans ALL use to get what we want?
I don't see how disliking conspiracies limits one's capacity to understand the real world? Just because you dislike something doesn't mean you are disregarding it as being a thing. I don't particularly like the idea of organised crime, but i'm not going to deny it exists.
@@robertdewar1752 Er....well. I don't think we completely disagree. I took '....dislike conspiracy...' to mean something like '....dislike conspiracies as a means of explaining.......' . The thing about a conspiracy, or a fraud for example; is that they are explicitly designed to look like something else. ie a 'freak' weather event, or maybe a 'lone gunman with no social media'. If we 'dislike' conspiracies as a possible explanation, we might be simply unable to identify them even when they are pretty obvious. Falling back on 'coincidence' or 'bad luck' as explanations. That's my view. Cheers.
@@johnrichmond8978 Thanks for taking the time to clarify in a calm and rational manner. Regards.
@@robertdewar1752 Thanks for a good question.
Even 10% of $8.8 Billion is a lot of incentive...
Smells 🐠 🐟
I remember a similar thing with Robert Maxwell.
It always puzzles me why some one with a company that has so much potential and wealth for the future. Would want to over price the valuation of hi# company. How rich do people want to be?
It's a massive stretch of the truth for a Yacht that size to all of a sudden have a breach in the Hull and sink in 50 meters of water ?
Why anchor ⚓️ so deep ?
I am also not one receptive to conspiracy... but when I heard the car involved emerged from behind a grassy knoll.....
Oh thats just wicked 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
HP has deep connections with that country in the Middle East.
The moment some government can send tornado's after people they don't like I'm done. 😂
What tornado? Check the weather history for Porticello for the 19th. Max wind speed 12 mph
@@MrChichibabin bruh, it was aliens.
300m offshore 🙄!
Yachts of that size can handle any weather in a bay , To be laid on its side & sink I find incredulous UNLESS there was an outside force , Very strange . Like to here the skippers take on this ' accident' ?
incredible... hear... skipper's...
@@acjdf Nothing wrong with 'incredulous' here~
Yes, the outside force was a water tornado, water spout.
Inside force were the crew opening all the portholes so boat fills with water and the unsinkable sinks..strange that all the crew got out and only managed to save the young married couple with the baby…this boat was scuppered
HP tech is pretty awful in my experience. I do always wonder how they have kept going.
It's tragic. However, it has happened. Condolences to all those affected.
200,000 killed by rich zionists invading Gaza is very tragic, indeed.
What a tragedy off Sicily
Sequel to the Bob Maxwell classic "Was he pushed?"
No, he just bob, bob. bobbed away.
M$$AD fingerprints are all over this..
Remember who is involved with HP .. who Lynch took to court and won . .
Peter Marshall
If you're referring to Bayesian, Lynch's boat, it sank. It is in 57 feet of water. It was a bit more than "man overboard."
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw I was being entirely facetious. Yes. I presume this was an appalling weather related accident. But that won't stop the conspiracy theorists.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 57m - the divers can only stay down for ten minutes.
Love your content professor always ti the point👌 thanks for your time always.
Mike Lynch had just been cleared by a US jury. His 18 year old daughter is also missing. So, a real tragedy.
Which also means, HP lost. HP's chief investors are Vanguard Group and BlackRock. Do some research on these investments groups. Shady dealings.
I know. Also my neighbours cat had a splinter in its paw so seem to be tragedies everywhere!!! 😮
@@staceyw.6608 Those two companies own a piece of almost everything...collective portfolios are almost the yearly GDP of the USA.
There is a difference between being acquitted (all well and good) and having vendettas hanging around.
Yes that was what they were celebrating on the Yacht apparently. It still stinks ,no such thing as coincidence.
Thanks Prof for this. Had very little idea of who and what in this story, so I'll go to bed tonight slightly "moins bête ". 😊
Water spouts are mentioned in Dantes Inferno and relate to Odysseus. Odysseus is in the 8th circle of hell which is reserved for fraudsters.
How much will they pay the family of the Sri Lanka cook ?
As you mentioned, the uk government was involved in a conspiratorial manner in the post office scandal, words are important and the correct terms should be applied
Struggling to see how the "perpetrators" arranged a massive electrical storm...
A different take : Millionaires can afford to go to places where Nature can get you, and some do. Ordinary people can't afford to and mostly don't want to. Last year a millionaire wanted a close look at Titanic. This year a millionaire wanted to be on a luxury yacht in storm prone seas.
all that money and they never sent ME a penny
Apparently it was a large waterspout/mini tornado. There were apparently a number of other boats that had serious difficulties in staying afloat in that same area.
Surely HP did their due diligence as to capitalisation of Autonomy. It's certainly a mystery as to all these deaths happening at same time. Just goes to show even waste wealth does not save from tragedy.
It is both tragic and a massive coincidence that both subjects should die within a few days and less than a month after being exonerated in the USA. One cannot but be suspicious as to whether such a coincidence is likely to be down to pure chance.
As a minimum, the British authorities should be investigating any links with Hewlett Packard and indeed having expert damage assessments made on the sunken yacht. There is probably nothing, but it should be ruled out properly as there are literally billons of Pounds involved and money does incredible things to people and organisations. Certainly a discreet investigation by UK security should be done and any results made public.
discreet intelligence operations tend not to make findings public
@Lennonlover06 you can't explain reality to someone like this 😂
Amazing coincidences, similar to the Boeing whistle-blower recently. "COINCIDENCES"😂
200,000 killed by rich zionists invading Gaza is very tragic, indeed.
GOD BLESS EVERYONE!!& EVERYTHING!! GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!!!🙏🙏
It is indeed odd. Perhaps the only useful comment I can make is that many years ago I had a conversation with an acquaintance who is a very rich (many millions) investor and she recounted a tale of someone else that she had done business with and who had defrauded her of a substantial amount but it turned out that he had also defrauded a number of others (unknown to her) and one day his life was ended by a hired killer’s bullet. She told me that in the mega millions investment world there are some very dangerous people who will kill you if you cross them.
You said useful.. Still waiting
@@domb8448 ha ha ha LMAO. That made me laugh!
@@domb8448 Yawn
@@epincion Again, useful. 👍
I am stunned how a sauce company paid so much money to a spokesman of a rail company for his computer.
These trials have highlighted a well-known reality, neither judges, nor attorneys, nor police, nor jury members have sufficient knowledge of corporate practices and policies to understand these classes of cases both in England and in the US. Indeed, if an individual with the appropriate and informed background, training, familiarity and expertise was called upon for jury service, they would not be selected, they would be anathema to both defence and prosecution.
In these circumstances, acquittal is the odds on outcome and defendants continue to appeal until a favourable outcoming is achieved.
These cases are complex, they require more than an amicus curiae; they also require specialist juries made up of people with appropriate backgrounds. Given their charge out rates these would be the most expensive trials in history.
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