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I can buy this one for 50 bucks, good idea? will it sound good with only that and the pedal or do i need something extra?
@@Pentaclown84 At $50 it's definitely worth a shot!
@@PatPosse nice ill do that then
@@Pentaclown84 Let me know how turns out for ya!
Spend the dough and get the waza. It has a modern switch so its like 2 pedals in one.
I liked the sound of it not plugged into the effects loop. I like a lot of things that other people don't like. I've been okay with that for 50 years.. Great playing man!
Sometimes it works fine on the input. The video is more aimed at people who don't like the MT2 to the input sound. This will give the amp a second chance at killer tone!
Yeh, I like stuff just plugged into the amp. Everyone says use the loop, it never sounds better to me, different, but not better. Tried it on a few amps... Plus your messing about with two extra leads.
@@mikethebloodthirsty That's true! I also like a lot of tones into the input. This video is aimed at people who don't like the sound they get from the Metal Zone straight into the input... it's like saying "hey!, before you completely give up on this pedal, try this!"
you and me both. Been happy with it for 20 plus years and even happier with the recent waza. I think it all comes down to dialing it in right. People aren't patient.
Same. I have the MT-2W and it sounded bad plugged into the effects loop of my Marshall DSL 100H.
This pedal through the front of a decent amp's clean channel using a guitar with a ceramic humbucker in the bridge position gives a sick old school death metal sound like Shaune Kelley's guitar tone in Ripping Corpse. Love this pedal and will use it til the day I die.
Yup. Most classic death metal bands used it as a pre amp or pushing the input of an amp. Like I said, The pedal itself doesn’t suck. You just gotta stay away from cheap/bad amps’ input channels 🤣
No matter what anyone says, i actually like the metalzone. Of course it doesn't sound as good as some other pedals, but if you just play around with it a bit and you can get some pretty badass sounds.
That's true! Specially if you use it right and go into the FX loop! I hadn't played it in forever and was actually ok with it. But if I had to choose the Power Stack is probably my favorite by them!
Excellent video. My favorite part was you telling some new or younger metal heads to go for it regardless. Anxiously waiting for the next video.
Thanks man! I 100% meant it! We need the new wave of metal heads to focus more on playing and less on gear and what people think about it...!!!
It may sound like a beehive, but I can’t imagine Legion or Butchered at Birth without it!
Yeah but they are using it RIGHT! not into the input like a n00b! lol
This review really helped me understand the difference! Thanks so much!🤘
Glad it helped!! This pedal gets way more hate than it deserves to be honest... Maybe this can help clear this out... it won't make a HUGE difference but hey!, gotta try right?
Man great demo. Tour picking hand efficiency is off the charts! Thanks for posting.
BTW I like the pedal into the amp better. 😂
Thank you!! That’s totally valid ! It really depends on what kind of tone you are after… into the input can be more harsh and sometimes that’s exactly what we need! lol
Thanks for watching and commenting!
one question: if I buy 'Boss DS1' pedal and put it through the clean channel in my amp then would I face the same problem like this one? I have blackstar id core 20 amp which doesn't have any effects loop,,,
Yes. It would still be the input of the amp… either way; this video is for people who tried it on the input and didn’t like it. A lot of people do like it on the front end of the amp. You might be able to try it out at your local music store… maybe give that a shot and take it for a spin before purchasing it 💪🏻
Dope man love the pedal I use it every time I play metal and I can get almost any sound I want with this pedal 🤘
Nice!
So, I have a blackstar ID Core 100….when I plug the pedal into the effects loop, it sounds super muffled and shity. Then I tried to just plug it into return and it didn’t make any sound at all! My line in is the size of a headphone jack so I can’t use that. Any tips? The only way I can possibly use it from what I know is through the input on the top.
Hi there! Those amps are always weird because of all the pre loaded built in effects and stuff. The right way is through the effects loop as you did in the beginning, there might be a setting or something that makes it sound muffled, maybe your battery is dead or something… hard to help over a message but that should work. If anything try checking out the manual or I’m sure there’s some Blackstar ID specific video online that shows you how to connect pedals to it… good luck Man!
Hey great video! and great way of playing of course.
I have a Fender champion 100 amp, is it possible to connect MT-2 that way? I mean NOT directly to the input, the amp has a PRE OUT and a PWR IN, if so, how to do it?
Thanks in advance
Sure, You should be able to go out of the PRE OUT to the pedal and back in to POWER IN...
i have a question. My metal zone only sounds good when the guitar is plugged into the pedal and the pedal goes into the return of my amp. If I run it from send then return with my guitar plugged into the front of the amp it sounds horrible..... This is stopping me from having the pedal on my pedal board seeing how everything else runs through the front of the amp, I have no way to use the distortion pedal unless I use it by itself with it only running from guitar, to pedal, to return.
That is very interesting... What's going out of the Send on your amp's loop?
@@PatPosse Nothing. My normal setup is delay runs through send and return (effects), my guitar is plugged into the first pedal in my chain, last pedal plugs into the front of my amp. I figured since the pedal acts as a preamp I could run it through my effects along side my delay, but it only sounds good with it going from guitar, to pedal, then return section with nothing else plugged anywhere else in the amp. I read somewhere that a pedal going into the return section of amp is actually how a pre amp pedal is supposed to be used, but that makes no sense to me because you wouldn't be able to run anything else, and there is no way anyone is running a whole chain of pedals directly into the just the return section of the effects, they will sound like crap haha.
Hey Pat! Just found your channel and can't wait to do a deep dive through your videos!
Thank you Dan and welcome to the channel! I hope I can meet your expectations 😅. Thanks for watching and commenting 🤘🏻
The Metal Zone + Heavy Metal pedals together sound pretty awesome. Worth a shot if you're looking for an affordable metal sound.
Wow nice! would have never tried that... do you mean the Boss HM-2?
@@PatPosse Yes indeed. If you can find one anyway, they haven't made them for decades and they go for $200ish. Also should run them thru an FX loop
Hahaha yes, I'm familiar with them. I've actually come across a few and owned 2. Never been a fan but sometimes you just need that HM-2 Death Metal sound! Now I'm kinda kicking myself for selling them so cheap back then but I've always flipped them for profit!
Hi Pat, nice playing. I just discovered your video. I have metal zone since 1994. Love the pedal ever since. It's a new finding for me about how to get a better sound for the mt2. I have a question. How does it work or sound when the mt2 combines with other pedals such as delay, chorus, wah and etcetera. I mean, plug it in the FX return. Have you tried it?
Welcome aboard! I would experiment with different ways but “theoretically “ you would go from the send of the FX loop to the MT2 first, then your effects and back to the return of the loop.
Hope to help!
Congratulations!!! Distrokid ! Awesome
😁😁 thanks!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Good demo. Thanks Pat!
Glad to help Tim! Thanks for watching and commenting! 😁🤘🏻
Awesome video, but i also have to say i'm proud to be a member ;)
You rule my dude and I sure appreciate each and everyone of you!
Great review!!
Thank man!! I am glad you enjoyed it!
Hey man,just found you and subscribed......good vid man...keep it heavy!
Thank you brother!
I've noticed that distortion pedals in general don't like clean tones that are too bright and sparkling. Experimenting with pedals such as the DS-1, boss power driver (a hidden gem of a pedal) and guyatone zoom box (related to the mxr distortion +) and a roger mayer voodoo tt (a transistor based distortion/fuzz), you want to set the mids pretty high and treble pretty low. If you need brightness use an eq pedal in the fx loop.
It makes a lot of sense that people who use amps with fender style clean channels or fender style amp modellers will perceive distortion pedals as harsh sounding as those amps scoop out the midrange and add a lot of treble by design.
Oh yeah! Also the fact that a lot of times the pedal works way better if plugged into the Fx loop. I always try to tell people that the main distortion and tone should come from the amp but they want it to come from the pedal (and then they expect the pedal to sound as good [or as bad 🤣😉] out of every amp)
I use it through the input along with 2 overdrive pedals and a compression sustainer pedal turned down to about 35% so I can get a nice saturated sound without it getting too loose and messy
Nice!!
what kinda noise gate u use
Nice vid! I've had a metal zone since 2004. Using it mostly in the front of a peavey valve king, I never had a problem dialing a rad tone from it. It worked great for my band. I've never used it as a preamp, so now it's time to dust off that pedal and re introduce myself to it :)
Later!
Nice!! Let me know how that works out for ya. MTs work great on some amps! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse cool!
@@HeBleedsBlack 🤘🤘
Is there a way to get rid of the constant feedback without a noisegate pedal? I'm currently not in the budget for one and would want to play loud with my metak zone and not have to deal with the noise.
It might be because of your pickups or cables... other than that, no... you'll need one of them...
@@PatPosse damn guess I'll have to save up :(
Sure sounds that way.. 😅
Extra crunchiness...I love it!! 🤘🤘
Hell yeah!! Way better!!
so you didnt say how you connected the cables for the fx loop,, plug the guitar into the amp input and the pedal into and out of the loop? or?...
I think I did but it might have been on the previous video to this which was on the DS1. Just in case… Guitar-> Amp’s input. FX Loop Send into Pedal’s Input, Pedal out -> Fx Loop’s Return and you are good to go 🤘🏻
Nice vid man 🤘🤘 that is some badass pedal and I wish I could try it and it produces some powerful tones overall I think it’s a decent pedal
Thanks man! It's cool if you use it right! It's a misunderstood pedal
Cool vid bro. Just quick tips u dont need fx loop to run this pedal as preamp u can just plug this to line in on ur amp so you just skip eq section on ur amp and straight to ur power amp, i use this trick for my multi effect pedal too.
Line in works too! That is correct! As long as it goes straight to the power amp we are golden! Thanks for that note !
Line In as in the Aux Input? Soni could get a 1/8 adapter and plug it in there if it's the Aux?
can you specify on how to do it without an fx loop cuz my amp does’nt have one
That was awesome. Great job 💪💪🤘
Thanks man!! And thanks for your continued support my brother!!
Great pedal bro!! I love all those sounds!! 💯💪🏻🤘🏻
Thanks bud!! I am glad you do!
Bro your right hand work is insane!
Thanks! 😁😁
I used my metal zone after a 7 band eq into my amp for mamy years and loved. There were other players who tried to cop my sound over the years. I was flattered. 2 years ago I bought an MXR full bore metal distortion pedal and no longer needed the eq and it oit performs the metal zone. I had many years of great service from my metal zone
Metalzone rules! It’s just misunderstood at times
The sound of this pedal in front of the amp reminds me of the time when I was using an amp sim on my computer but forgot to turn on the cabinet simulation lol
HAHAHAHA YES!!!! I know EXACTLY what you mean!
Interesting video Pat!😁
Thanks man!!
Ive had 3 of those in the past 20 yrs. I currently have the waza and it is much quieter. I never like it in the fx loop. The tone is tighter that way for sure but you miss the front end push that gives that 90s death metal feel. Ive bought several other pedals but always go back to the MT2. Just go get one!
Hell yeah! It’s a must have for sure!
I'm speaking to you from the future I bought a hell melter and I'm returning it to go pick up one of these for that pure blackest of black 90's metal sound brother
wooow
changed my point of view, changed my opinion on music, changed my life
thanks a lot!
🤣🤣🤣. Glad to help I guess… 😋
The clean tone you started with when the pedal was in the effects loop was much different. Warmer, that sounded like the only difference.
That's simply because he was using the bridge pickup on the first clean run and the bridge pickup on the second clean run. Both uses of the pedal were in bridge position.
@@nicholaslewis8938 ?
To make that sound, how about amp setting? Like volume and etc
It really depends on the amp but if you are going through the fx loop it shouldn’t make much difference in sound.
I use the MT2 along with my boss equalizer. I use my equalizer like a boost with some EQ changes that give it a sick thrash sounding tone
Hell yeah!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I've used mine into front end and made it sound monstrous.
Yup! That can definitely happen!! This video is for people who hate the way it sounds on the front end… just giving them another option! If you like how it sounds on your input then this video is definitely not for you.
I saw olas video talking about that, I don’t have one because I really just started getting a lot of pedals, but when and if I do, that’s definitely where I’ll put it!
Awesome!! Ola doing the right thing there... he rules. I’m glad he is getting through and telling a lot more people and covering more ground with this. It just sounds like dog shit when it goes into the input lol
100% dude, but I think I’ll stick with the distortion I already use!
Haha I don’t blame you! But it’s not as bad as they make it out to be!
No, not at all
@@nicolasparianos1499 Poor pedal lol
I had a long time ago one . Now I have a Revv G3. Really good by the way. Nice video. Just keep going. Slaaaaaaaayyyyyyeeeeeeerrrrrr.
Nice. Thanks man and yes! F*ckin Slayer!!!!!!!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I’m not going to lie, I actually preferred it through the front of the amp. Reminds me of bolt thrower’s IVth crusade tone if you scooped it out a little bit. I’ve always joked about the metal zone, but I think your video convinced me to buy one. lol
Hahaha nice! If you do, check out the affiliate link in the comment section! 🤘🏻
Been using mine for like 20+ years, also check out the Keely Mod edition.
@@exin7778 Nice! Built like a tank! I should definitely check that out!
Great pedal, i used it for 5 years 🔥
It definitely has its fandom!! No wonder it’s the second most sold pedal by Boss!!
I am on Distrokid, but how the hell do I get my album promoted?
DistroKid distributes the album and uploads it to all the platforms, they don't promote it per se... you gotta do the promotion yourself...
@@PatPosse Ok... how?
@@isolatedmortalityband5718 post it everywhere you can, show it to people, Facebook groups, etc...
Nice Metallica Tone c an you share your settings ı cant seem to figure out the exact settings because of the angle of the pedal
Damn bro, sorry... this video is a couple years old and I have sold the MT2 Since (I actually traded it for a bunch of CDs hahaha) I don't know what the setting were, I was playing by ear... Wish I could be of greater help... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse good luck bro
@@darKBlue1987 Same to you my dude!
I think it has too much highs ! The EQs will help a lot !! Thanks for the review !!
You are welcome! Glad to be of service!
Excellent
Thank you very much ! I feel like I should update this video now that I’ve been doing this for longer and have better equipment and editing knowledge but people seem to enjoy it and find it useful… why wreck it; right?
Awesome your channel is one of the best!!!
Dude love the support! Thanks!
@@PatPosse you're very welcome bro!!!
💪🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
That’s so awesome!🤟
Thanks!!’
Now into the recording interface with ML Sound Labs Mikko providing cab simulation. Awesome!
The mikko plug in rules!! It’s just not compatible with my old Mac but as soon as I get a new thunderbolt interface it’ll be ON!!! The 3D cab sim here is really good too!
@@PatPosse That's ok. Just pull up any IR loader you can and load up a favorite IR. The Ownhammer stuff in particular is killer. I have some I'd be happy to share. :-) You really should hear this into a killer IR. Sounds amazing.
P.S. The STL Tones Libra is pretty amazing too. Not free. But it is Mac compatible.
@@PatPosse Cool! Then crank up that Metal Zone and give it a go! I think you'll love it.
I guess you haven’t seen the follow up video to this but I traded the metal zone for a bunch of CDs! Cool twist though; the guy i traded with mods then and he’ll give it back to me to do a review/ video for you guys! That’ll be fun! 💪🏻💪🏻
For those who are wondering… or concerned When using into the loop do NOT complete the loop with the pedal.
Guitar into Metal Zone input, Metal Zone output into amps effects return only..
For 20 years, I've used the original Metalzone on an old Amp and it sounded like a BEAST! 5 years ago it stopped working so I stopped playing.. recently I bought a new guitar and all the gears to record myself. Also bought the Metalzone reissue. Plugged it and tried it in UAD and it sounded like shit, couldn't figure out why. Tried a few plugins, nothing worked. Then saw your vid. Tried a classic Amp plugin and voila, BEAST sound. Thanks.
Glad to help!! That’s what it’s all about! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
My amp is old school, it doesn't have an effect loop.
But it has a GAIN channel and the CLEAN one. I try it on the GAIN channel but then the amp was making funny low freq noises for two weeks.
I play through my pc most of the time with BIAS FX on 2x100w.
But I would love to try it the right way.
Old School amps have FX loops too... Best you can do is plug it into the input and lower the level knob on it so it doesn't push the preamp as hard. Just get it to distort. OR use no distortion on the pedal and just use it as a TS9 of sorts and push the preamp with the level all the way up and the amp's regular distortion. Hope it helps!
@@PatPosse ok, tnx
@@tilenjurca7044 No prob! Best of luck!
@@PatPosse Or throw that amp out the window😉
@@tilenjurca7044 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hated it when it came out, but, if you run it right (amp, guitar, player) it easily does classic Judas Priest. It takes the place of a eq pedal, distortion, treble boost....does that by itself. The concentric pots are very tricky to adjust and super sensative. With some reverb and delay it can NAIL the Judas Priest tone on 'Unleashed in the East' 🤘
Them pots are a PAIN to dial in, for sure!!
Thank you
Hope it helps!! 🤘🏻
had an mt-2 since the 90s...my fave dist. pedal
Built to last! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
You give me waynes world/ ben stiller in tenacious d vibes. Subbed
Hahaha I’ll take that as a compliment! Old school metal dude here 😁😁
I reeeaaaaly enjoyed the right usage of that pedal 👍👌🤘🤘🤘 wrong usage makes it sound more shreded and noisy...but METAL OOOOON 🔥🔥🔥
That’s right! When it goes into the input it sounds like crap!!!
What a great pedal man
U did good man
Thanks!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
💀awesome video once again dude 😈😈
Thank you man!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
thank i for this. i got this pedal for my brother for christmas. after seeing all of the bad review vids on it i started to regret my decision. so thanks for the reassurance😭
Nah he’ll love it! Just tell him to try it both ways and to choose whichever he likes better, input or fx loop! I wish I got it as a Christmas present 😁!!
@@PatPosse great thanks! yeah i wanted to rly treat him this yr :)
@@chloe-222 Nailed it! Let me know how it goes!!
@@PatPosse Yeah for sure!
@@chloe-222 awesome! Merry Christmas!
Great pedal,Awesome ❤
Thanks man!!’ Glad you enjoyed it!!
The best review ever 🤘🏻
Thanks Roy!! Hope you enjoy it! I forget, Do you own that pedal?
When people tell me that pedal is worthless, I tell them they should email Cannibal Corpse and let them know. Should also email Bloodbath and about a million other bands who use the pedal and are successful
Totally! It’s a tank and it sounds great… sometimes people just don’t get it.
I think its cause we were all 16 when we first tried it, we dimed out every knob, plugged it into our shitty crate combo 1x12 (also dimed) and thats most of our memories of it lol
Come back to the pedal later when you have a nice rig, more experience and you can get some fat nasty tones out of her@@PatPosse
100%! you are right on the money!!
Open it up. Get some small wire cutters. Cut off c35, c25, and c17. I love how mine sounds after I cut off those specific pieces. No soldering needed. Just cut em off, or desolder them if you want to be able to go back to original. I would never want to.
That sounds like a great tip to check out but I’ve sold this pedal since 😅. But maybe someone here will check it out! Thanks for sharing!
What’s the song at 4:55?
That was a spin on War Ensemble by Slayer!
@@PatPosse thank you bro, gonna start learning that song rn !
@@Ben-bc9jg Awesome!! Glad to help!
You must have an expensive amplifier, it fails in laney 60 watts, but 1 paired with a cab sim it rocks
Nice! It definitely is hit or miss, sometimes it works great straight into the input, sometimes it blows lol
I don't know what's with the FX Loop stuff, sounds perfectly fine in the front end to me.
For context I have a spare practice amp, a Fender 15 watt and I throw this into the front end and it sounds pretty brutal, of course my Marshall Valvestate 8100 definitely does sounds better but this can nail some 90s DM and BM stuff, the trick is in setting the mids to max and messing with the mid freq until it sounds good, then pulling some of the mids back (but not below 12 'o' clock).
This video is aimed at people who don’t like the sound they are getting and want to try something else… if you found your tone straight into the input then you don’t need this “hack”! Most 90’s bands used the Metalzone straight in set up. 💪🏻. Thanks for watching and commenting !
@@PatPosse It's cool, just giving my 2 cents, and for the other hand I have actually tried the FX Loop trick before and it sounded pretty good! Just I've never found that much of a difference necessary enough to do it.
@@dq7860 of course! Input and feedback is always appreciated ! The FX loop thing basically bypasses your input and pushes the output of your amp but you will still have the main character of your amp / speaker combo sound 😉
Great video man. But you can ABSOLUTELY make it sound good in the input, you don't necessarily need to put it in the effects loop (Even though it sounds better in the loop) you can EQ it to sound good in the input, you just need a good amp to use it with.
Thats 100% true. This video is for people who don’t like this pedal and are looking for a way to make it sound great. If it already sounds good then this is irrelevant. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! 😁🤘🏻
Did you mean into the return not the loop?
Where or when exactly do you mean?
Sean Beasley playing a metal zone. Nice!
Sean is awesome!
I suck at guitar but I love to make noise and I have been through several pedals and I love the Metal Zone. Need a better amp and some active pickups though.
Better amp is always good! Active pickups are not necessary, I get that some people love them, I love the response and dynamics of a passive pickup… try to get an amp with an fx loop, it’ll give you way more options 🤘🏻. Thanks for watching and commenting !
Active pickups suck get som passive high output duncans or dimarzios and youre set
@@spiritofthetallhills2037 like a man!
What about hooking up next to a noise suppressor pedal
Definitely. That would help a lot since this bad boy is noisy AF 😉
@@PatPosse hell yeah
@@thatcherhunter1695 💪🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Could it be all about the treble? Old fart here!! But l always cut the top way down.. Tube Screamer… Ds 1 and Metal Zone… boost the mids… any thoughts anyone?? Great work and great encouragement for the guitar players… tune up, turn up and have a blast! All the best Steve Webb @steveguitarmanwebb
Hell yeah! That’s what it’s all about! I love the TubeScreamer for that mid bump! I’m also all about the mids 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I find it's that most people, especially beginners don't know how to dial it in.
Instead of scooping the mids and boosting bass and treble, they should cut the bass (a lot), boost the mids and adjust mid frequency to taste, then once the treble gets fizzy, back off a bit. Also, nobody needs that much distortion. Even for metal. Back it up some... like middle position or lower. 😂
Yeah, scooping the mids on this and having bass blows. It’s definitely not a pedal for that… it’s all about the mids for me
Hey kickass playing bro. To which amp did you connect it to. I have a mesa mini rec and a line 6 dt 1X12 cab and I am planning to buy this soon. Will I get the tight distortion like pantera in the lower wattages and in the lowest bedroom volumes cos I play in the lowest volumes in my bedroom. Sorry neighbors and parents are sensitive so. 😵😜 so can I dial in some pantera, Metallica and cannibal corpse kinda chug distortion’s ? Do reply. Btw you’re an amazing player man \M/ cheers 👋
Thank you brother for your kind comments! It’s been over a year, I don’t recall what it was plugged into at the time but it might have been straight into a small combo amp I had at the time. Make sure you plug it into the fx loop to get tighter and fatter lows, CC plugs it into the front of the amp… play around and see what works best for you and your amp situation! Thanks for watching and commenting
@@PatPosse yes bro. Will do it and update you soon. Wow meanwhile can you do a review of mesa mini with this pedal soon by showing difference of all channels and volumes and connecting techniques ? I’ll always be waiting to watch that man. 😍😍😍 do let me know
@@srinivaskumar615 That'd be great except I don't own a Mesa Mini and can't afford to buy one lol! It'd be awesome to have though
@@PatPosse oh 😬 hey it’s ok. you have dual rectifier? That was behind you in this video ?
That’s a Triple Rec on that video 😱
It sounds like a beginner amp with the treble and mid all the way up, but with no bass
Yup. The ideal platform for this pedal 🤣🤣
why is your hair so perfect
Thank you! 😁😁
Who knew that the metal zone actually had the potential to sound good?... for the whole time I’ve been a guitarist I’ve always heard about how bad it sounds. Well done Pat!
Thanks man!! That's why I made that instagram Poll... I got a lot of people saying it sounded like crap and that they hated it but I knew they didn't know about this, so there you go! Doing my part for the metal community!!
@@PatPosse and the metal community thanks you!
@@patmckeownmusic6478 That's awesome! every month I see my subscribers count go up and every month I get a new Member to the channel. I see the love, it just needs to grow a bit bigger for me to start doing some of the things i want to do with it... baby steps!
I can get Chugga tones with a three watt amp. Using that pedal. I have the original one too.
That’s awesome! What 3 watt amp do you have?
Super sympa.
Thank you brother !!
Another way to use this would be the way cannibal corpse and crowbar use it. Level at max, gain at zero and use the eq section into a distorted amp.
Yes! That’s basically the TS9 pushing the preamp trick but with two pots for EQing!
@@PatPosse Is this still considering you're running it through the loop? Any OD I've used I ran through the front, but I'm using a Peavey Triple X now which is already high gain if you want it. Is it a good idea to run the Metal Zone through the loop like @DeathMetal09 said and then the OD through the front and use that as a boost for leads?
@@mjgibbs131788 im sorry I just saw this comment, for some reason TH-cam doesn’t notify when people reply to comments made by someone else… you can definitely do that and it would work out nicely. Just gotta dial it in just right… with the amount of gain that amp has I would just try to round up the tone so it’s not as harsh with a ts9 or a compressor and add mids and a bit of volume (EQ pedal does both) on the fx loop to cut through the mix and get that nice bump for soloing 😉. Hope to have helped!
@@PatPosse No worries brotha. I appreciate the response! Most people would’ve dismissed since it was that long ago. I’ve since figured out how to implement my pedals with the amp. But the real issue was actually my speakers. Since upgrading, that rounding out I was looking for when playing live was much more attainable.
Lol that pedal was always meant for one thing and one thing only. All dials maxed out!
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“Does it sound good?” hell yesss lol. In my opinion anyway lol
Haha and it’s totally valid!!
The amp is set too bright to use a distortion pedal. That said it can still be done if you EQ with your ears and not your eyes.
Amp was set flat…
The Metal Zone is the best disto pedal I've ever had, and I've had many over my 3 decades plus of playing. I just plug it into the clean channel, and go. If it's too edgy, I turn back the treble knob on the pedal. Too easy!
Totally ! And you can also back out of the gain and make it more controlled 🤣. People forget that that knob can also move counterclockwise 😉
if you understand meaning ( preamp / distortion ) and how to use thoes in any situation than its realy great pedal .
Cannibal corpse use this into mesa boge triplerec as a boost .
Hell yeah they do ! I’ve done it as well on my triple Rec and it sounds sick!
how gainstages are combing ideas
look up schematic on it
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Another guy saying this pedal was used wrongly. It was not. When this pedal came out the intention was to plug it in front of the amp.
True! But if you don’t like the sound that is coming out of the amp, then there’s a second way to try out before chucking it out the window… that’s the point of this video.
Good Old Boss Pedals 👍🤘💪🔥😎
Built to last!!
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I'm still using my metal zone. It's a great pedal. I don't understand the hate it receives
Built like a damn tank bro! That'll get you that CC tone for sure!
If you think it sucks then turn the valve amp down so it’s cleaner. Also if you think it’s suppose to go in the fx loop, then get another distortion pedal, and put that in front of the metal zone pedal while in the fx loop, then see if you like it. Haha.
Both are good ways to use it!
@@PatPosse I wasn't saying it wasn't, but these pedals have a bad rep with some amps. its probably because like others, when I first got mine, I was a child, and thought everything should be cranked up. didn't really understand the process of getting great tones. It came with years of experience. When I first used the original pedal, it was into a 15 watt fender amp which came with a squire strat and I thought it was okay. that amp and guitar got stolen, (thank god) and as a replacement, my nan got me a vester maniac which I still own today. Also got me a vox ac15 which sadly got stolen later in life. When I plugged the pedal into the vox ac15, the pedal sounded really crap. I didn't like the tones I were getting and so sold the pedal and got this boss mulifx instead. move on 3 decades, and I own the vox ac30 and also the metal zone waza, and I like putting it in front of the amp. In some amps It will sound good, in others, it depends, especially with valve amps. The vox on a clean sound with no distortion, running clean, the pedal sounds amazing, can also get some decent tones with little valve distortion and some pedal distortion. on the boss katana power amp only mode, the metal zone sounds metal as hell, and its very easy to get a great tone from it.
we as artists should always try break the rules.
@@RockG.o.d ALWAYS! Well put!!
Ps. Vox amps RULE!
I liked both. lol
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They both definitely have their place! More than anything the video is aimed at giving a second life to this pedal for people who own it and hated it… best of luck getting that project going brother!
I had one ages ago. Just got one for 40$ so fuck it. Playing some good old school metal.
Hell yeah, That’s a great deal!!
90% of the job is just that the player has to invest in an amp that is equipped with an FX loop. The other 10% is just dialling a good enough sound out of it. I've certainly had fun with it for the longest time. 👍
And 100% of it is Liking, commenting and subscribing to my channel!! Hahaha I couldn't help it! That's true, the FX loop is KEY! After that is smooth sailing....! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse I mean, you put out a good video like this one, and it's the least you deserve. Cheers dude. 🤘
@@owenmoody7125 haha thank you my brother!! Every comment and like helps the algorithm. It’s still a very small channel so it’s hard to make a dent on it but I try every time lol
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Wish I had one to review! (or a friend who owns it! lol)
Haha it did sound like angry bees 😂. Thankfully I’ve never owned one and never will lol (side note, my boss katana has one built in so I might try it out lmao)
Hahaha it’s not too bad. Just gotta plug it into the right place!
Good luck trying to hear yourself in a band or mix with that scooped setting
Yeah that’s not going to happen. I’m all about the mids!
Does it suck or are people just quick to change their opinion because a bunch of people on the internet says it sucks? A lot of badass bands used it and it sounded great.
There’s a LOT of that as well!!