I'm from Poland, and i think, that Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was the strongest country in europe in XVI century. Greetings from Poland to our Lithuanian brothers :). BTW Vilnius is Lithuanian city ;)
Żenujące te komentarze.... Był ślub (Unia) miedzy Polską i Litwą? Był! Rozpadło się małżeństwo? Tak! Więc każdy wraca na swoje miejsce sprzed ślubu! Wilno było, jest i zawsze będzie litewskie!.Warszawa była, jest i zawsze będzie Polska! Rzeczypospolita była związkiem zamieszkiwanym przez wiele narodów:Polaków, Litwinów,Białorusinów, Ukraińców... Dziś Polacy i Litwini znów są razem.Choć to już inne małżeństwo. A do Rodziny trzeba zaprosić tych co kiedyś byli z nami.Dawne rany się zagoją i będziemy żyć w zgodzie. Jesteśmy to winni naszym Praojcom. Jeśli tego nie zrobimy to znów znikniemy z mapy Europy...
legionek Wzasadzię to Polska była tym silniejszym. Fakt, że bez unii obejść się nie mogło to jednak na ,,słabość'' narzekać nie musimy :3 (tymbardziej, że Kazimierz Wielki odwalił kawał dobrej roboty). Jednak trzeba pamiętać, że Litwa poza obszarem nie miała prawie nic. Zwłaszcza biorąc pod uwagę fakt, że w tamtych czasach siłę państwa mierzyło się w ilości zaludnienia, a Litwa nie miała tego zbyt dużo. + Warto pamiętać, że pierwsze sukcesy z krzyżakami były już za czasów Władysława Łokietka :) (fakt odziwo pomijany). Oczywiście nie mam nic do Litwinów jak i do całej unii :) szkoda tylko, że historia tak się ułożyła, że nienawidzimy się nawzajem :d i dlatego staram się zakopać tą internetową wojenkę :d
Nie chcę Ciebie obrażać , ale naiwność niektórych osób mnie poraża. Jak uważasz, że to ja jestem debilem to wejdź sobie np na DELFI PL i zobacz jak Litwini, których tak pozdrawiasz , potraktują Ciebie za napisanie czegoś po polsku.
To all Polish/Belarussian trolls. Have you seen the maps that show expansion of Lithuania? First expansions occupies Lida,Grodno, Ashmeny not even Minsk. The core of Lithuania was from Kaunas to Lida. 1918 borders of Lithuania should be restored.
you have a point man, but Poles was ones to occupy our capital not us, and to all those brainwashed Poles who think that Vilnius is their city TELL ME WHO BUILT VILNIUS? (YES LITHUANIANS)
***** 1-2% are you kidding? That story has been long confirmed to be Polish inter war governments hoax. Because why would crowds of thousands welcome Lithuanian army when Vilnius was liberated? s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/XD/XD168/XD168797.jpg img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071203201957/althistory/images/f/fb/Lietuvos_2.JPG
***** Lol yeah whatever you say, the majority city support for integration with Lithuania must have been some unexplained miracle. And you should just be happy that Lithuanians allowed for the remaining Poles to stay unlike Ukraine who deported all the Poles from Lviv region.
***** so if now hundreds of thousands of lithuanians go to Warsaw we make the majority of that city we can claim like its ours? as i told don't forget who built Vilnius!!
Для этого «общества» не имеет значения, что из 50 полков во главе с польским королем Ягайло и великим князем литовским Витаутасом только 3 были из Смоленска. Оно также "забыло", что в то время Смоленск принадлежал Литве в союзе с Польшей. Русские...мастера проведения исторической политики, факты не играют для них особо большой роли".
@OMUO64 Ačiū už gražius žodžius. Taip, slapyvardis kiek vaikiškas (dėl "sh:)), bet registravausi čia dar labai jaunas būdamas ir nebuvo kaip "š" raidės įdėti:) Kurta mano paties, bet pats matau labai daug taisytinų vietų, ko nepastebėjau prieš porą metų:) Sėkmės!
GDL was an awesome and powerfull country the only problem was the fact,that there too many enemies against it(Turks,tatars,Muscovites(Russians),Polish.Grand Duchy of Lithuania was an unique nation:It honored human rights in the Middleage!Lithuanians were the only ones who had Ukrainian territory and didnt threat us like animals.That is why there were no uprisings in Ukraine during 1362-1569.After that Polish had some lovelly time killing rebelions almost every 10 years(1590,1594,1625,1630,1635,1637-1638,1648,1651,1702,1768) xD Nice video man,like.
OrkosUA Yes. Grand Duchy of Lithuania should have helped Novgorod.. Lithuanian troops raided Moscow many times... I am not so sure why Vytautas did not finish off Muscovy when we had the chance, with our Belarussian and Ukranian friends.
OrkosUA I am sure Polish Noble Men had something to do with it... They prevented Duke Vytautas from receiving his crown and becoming King, and establishing the Great Kingdom of Lithuania.
1MuchButteR1 It can be possible.Had Vitovt Muscovian and Lithuanian army - he would have had enough power to crush anyone who could attack Lithuania.So he wouldn't have needed to accept Unia of Lublin.And thus Lithuania would have been powerful and independent for good.Great Kingdom of Lithuania...sounds awesome.But wait,didn't Mindaug had the crown?Then why did his son rejected that title?And by the way,why do you call Belarus Gudiya and Germany Vokietiya?Just interesting why.
OrkosUA We call Belarus Gudija probabaly because we have long common history with them , and I think it sounds nicer than calling them "White-Russians." For Germany.. I heard there was a tail that a Samogitian (Low land Lithuanian) tried to kill/knock out a captured German. So the Samogitian had to hit him over the head like 4 times before the German was knocked out. The Samogitian said... "Vo... Kiets." "Vo" meaning "how/very," and "kiets" is a Samogitian pronunciation for "kietas" which means strong/hard. In conclusion you can say that Germany in Lithuanian means "strong" land.
Per 13 metų tik 1,5k paspaudė like… Taip visiems ir rūpi lietuvėlė.. Dėl to jin taip vėtyta ir mėtyta… Kokie mes apkiautę esam ir už save negalim pastovėti.. Vienos iš seniausių kalbų atstovų žmonėms turėtų būti ne visvien kur gyvenam ir kas mūsų laukia…
@DelTevynes I'm Pole and I agree with you. I'm sorry for that if this mean something to you. I think Poland and Lithuania should keep together. It's the pity that conflict over the Vilnius region destroyed the very strong ties between our nations after centuries. Pilsudski never shouldn't do it. Poles today are willing to accept and realize the error of those times. But I dare to say That Lithuanians to not give a chance for reconciliation. But you have the right to do that.
haha if we where still alive we could take over Poland! :( if we did survive russia and germany wouldnt have wars poland would stop that that is if ''Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth'' empire survived...our gentry i think what its called if the Lithuanian and Polish gentrys would of made up and not be mad at each other and well...win polish lithuanian commowealth was in place...we became weaker and weaker and weaker with all the riots and not making up...if we survived :(WE WOULD START WITH THE BALTIC COUNTRYS BALERUSS,POLAND eeerrr...lets leave germany alone for a little and all the other countrys ecept france and german aaa Le France Paris
NoMoneyNoLife NoMoneyNoLife hi man, i am lithuanian too, and if this converstation is on a english comment with your comment english. So i'll write english too: taking over poland is a not good plan, we need to use our old plan - you see huge countries at beginning of video with small lithuania? it has expanded and done it. Now we're a little better, we have a coastal city giving us much trade power. We should focus on weaponizing, military science to reach our goals, Example in schools, per math we would learn strategy than those calculations, giving us more generals and commanders per war. But mostly now we need to add to schools economy lessons. Without them we'll remain weak because of low funds.
NoMoneyNoLife NoMoneyNoLife yeah, so next time when you go to school, you should know that your knowledge is the way that lithuania can become powerful. math is mostly good for economy and strategy. most students in school are doing some random bad things or they just are like sleeping and being lazy out there.
@rakuuu85 Yes, the name "Belarus" is in fact creation of XIXc, Muscovite Tzar issued some "ukaz" which banned the very name "Lithuania" and promoted that "Belarus" instead. Not sure how it`s at now, but in II RP most of "Belarussian" peasants when asked for nationality were confused and replied "tutejszy" (local). A >Lithuanian< was just a citizen of the Grand Duchy, nobility with the time begun to speak Polish, so the Poles in Lithuania are just... Lithuanian nobility :)
@PolskiHetman V Polsce nikt niepiše nazvisk po Litevsku,niema u vas takih liter.Bylem v Punsku i znam jak tam jest,bendže sporo problem ježeli chceš pomieniač nazvisko.Teras napisalem našimi literami,ružnica jest?
Co tu się dziwić Litwinom, skoro od czasu szczególnie Unii Lubelskiej ulegli totalnej polonizacji. Niemal całkowicie utracili swoją tożsamość. Dopiero rozbiory Rzeczpospolitej obudziły w nich poczucie własnej tożsamości. Odrodzili powoli swój język i obyczaje... Za cóż, nas Polaków, ta nowożytna Litwa ma kochać? Chyba nie za to ze z bytami pchaliśmy się do ich historycznej stolicy, Wilna! Nie dziwie się nawet ich tak ostremu postępowaniu wobec obecnej mniejszości polskiej na Litwie.
beja, dar vienas pastebejimas, lenkai okupuoja vilniu 1919 o ne 1918 kaip pavaizduota zemelapyje. Beto buvo galima isskirti lenku is LDK perimtas teritorijas unijos metu, Klaipedos krasto ir VIlniaus krasto atgavimo datas, bei teritoriju kaita nepriklausomybes kovu metu. O siaip - tikrai geras video - pagirtina.
discouniverse, Deja, kai lipdžiau šį filmuką, nelabai būčiau galėjęs kažką mandro nupiešti pagal save, čia yra tiesiog nuotraukos iš knygų ar interneto :) O jei ne viai tiksli informacija, tai ne mane kaltint reikia. Tikslios vaizdinės informacijos tikrai mažai iš tų laikų :)
Informacija daug maz tiksli.Prie caro buvo gubernija o Tarybu Sajungos laikotarpiu buvo respublika.Kai buvo taip sakoma sajunga su lenkais tai greiciau buvo okupacija ir pjauste Lietuva 3 kartus.Lietuva salis su labai garbinga.turtinga istorija.Zalgirio musis.Lietuvos Didzioji kunigaikstyste nuo Baltijos juros iki Juodosios juros.Daug galima kalbeti apie istorija.apie zmones.Kristijonas Donelaitis.Maironis.Vincas kudirka.Vienuolis...
Polish ppl have always great respect for Lithuanians. Litwa is our pride and good friend. Together we were most tolerant, liberal and biggest country in eastern Europe ever. Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth FTW!
Dabar tokia mažytė mūsų šalelė, napalyginsi su praeities mūsiške. Bet svarbiausia mes esame labai graži, didinga, nepasiduodanti šalis. Tik gaila, kad vis migruojam į kitas šalis, nebėr tokios patriotinės dvasios mums, kaip senoliams buvo... Bet aš myliu Lietuvą ir visada mylėsiu kad ir kas benutiktų. :]]
Visas pasaulis migruoja ir rai yra normalu. Mes buvome ilgai uždaryti okupantų siena, pagalvokit kiek daug žmonių būtų pabėgę sovietmečiu, kiek bėgo, bet buvo pagauti, pasodinti į sibiro kalėjimus ar paguldyti į psichiatrinę. Tik gaila ir dabar dar neviską sužinom, okupantai naikino įrodymus..
Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów, "Litwo ojczyzno moja ty jesteś jak zdrowie, ile cię trzeba cenić ten tylko się dowie kto cię stracił ,,,," - wtedy byliśmy jednym narodem,
+Marcin T Nadal nim jesteśmy żmudzkie bydło nie ma nic wspólnego z Polskim Wilnem i Litwą Środkową Wileńską . Wszystkie te majaczenia to wpisy pacjenta z Zakładu Psychiatrycznego w ramach zajęć terapeutycznych.
1MuchButteR1 Sounds more like fanciful dreaming and not based on real aspirations of those nations in question. You would have Belarus and Latvia as minor players in a greater Lithuanian federation? They would rather join the EU before forming a federation of no consequence or means of thriving.
ArcherWook Yes it may sound like fantasy right now. But I would have said a month ago that Russia annexing parts of Ukraine in 21st century was just a fantasy as well.
1MuchButteR1 Really? well don't be too surprised when Russia starts "liberating" parts of Eastern Ukraine in the future. Russia has expressed several times that it wants to reunite its people with the motherland. This may be just the beginning of a greater storm. As for your federation? Too small and there are already several federations/unions competing for your coin. So No, I don't see your version of federation ever materializing in this century. Maybe if the EU were to collapse and there was no other club to join, maybe, but not very probable.
omg. Thanks you autor for this film. Now i know Poland and Lithuania have the same history. And this shit 123 years of Ocupation. Best wishes for independent country. ( Sorry for my English)
labai jau daug klaidu ;) pvz.:„1990 kovo 11d. Lietuva paskelbe nepriklausomybę“ juk Lietuva tais metais buvo atkurta o ne paskelbta ;) bet vis tiek ačiū gražu :)
Lietuvos Patriotas In Poland were more cities and villages and we polonisated you. Now Lithuania look like polish region (something like Wielkopolska, Małopolska or Mazowsze). And it true but Lithuania were something like polish province.
Samogitia wasn't the only Baltic tribe that united into Lithuania. It was the formation of multiple Baltic tribes that formed Lithuania. Even today samogitians are only 30% of Lithuania.
It's the only way these names are given in polish schools. I know a lot of people here in Poland who left Lithuania after the war with names like Możwiłło, Możejko, Wojtonis, Martusewicz and I can only guess they names were like Mazvilas, Mazeikas, Vaitonis, Martusevicius (I probably give those wrong anyway) so it's hard both ways. But I hope this'll make easier to understand each other in the end.
Sad to see Poles and Lithuanians arguing over shit here... We were once one strong nation, stopped Muslim invasion in 1683, we did well against Russia, a nation that many others struggled against... Respects from Poland (I have nothing against Lithuanians)
Поражают делитанты. Найдите хоть одну старую кару, где бы Самогития (нынешняя Летува без Виленского края) называлась Литвой, а нынешняя Беларусь - нет. Ну хоть одну. И есть сотня карт старых, где нынешняя Беларусь - Литва.
@krzyzakwlkp ok i see your point, but i have queston what was the Capital of Lithuania all times? the answer is Vilnius, but you say that is Polish city so how it could be capital of other country ?
+hubert wawrzyniak u r right we should beat the living fuck out of western europe and skandinavians fuck em we now clean their toilets and keep money in their banks so they can live well ...
"However Vilnius is occupied by Poland" At that time (between 1919 and 1939) About 60% of people living in Vilnius were Polish, about 30% were Jewish and about 7% were Lithuanian.
Gdansk came under the Polish Crown in 1466 at the Second Peace of Thorn, and remained so until 1792 when it was annexed by Prussia. Thus it was under Polish rule for 326 years. It did not come under Polish rule again until 1945. Total period of Polish rule until present = 326 + 71 = 397 years. Not quite 700 years. By contrast, Vilnius was a Lithuanian city from the time of its foundation until the extinction of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in 1795. It was seized by Poland in 1920, and given back to Lithuania by Stalin in 1939, hence it was under Polish rule for only 19 years.
michael mills Earlier in the beginning of gdańsk's history it was a polish city (997-1308~311 years). 397+311=708. In the Interwar peroid Gdańsk was something like poland's puppet state (19 years). 708+19=727.
Before the Polish - Lithuanian Union between our countries was a permanent continuous war. I live 5 km from the old border with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Before the Union was not possible to live there. Lithuanians regularly conducted invasions, burned a couple of times Lublin. And we regularly set out to conquer out the Lithuanians. Every year something was wrong on both sides. After the Pl. -Lt. Union was peace. Currently, Lithuania goes its own way. We do not intend to disturb you.
Sorry, Lithuanian nation, but that big Grand Duchy of Lithuania was mostly, in 80%, Ruthenian one (Belarussian) There were many smaller half-independent states with their own princes in it and its structure was looseness. It was not the one state at all, rather kind of confederation of small states. An official language of Grand Duchy was Ruthenian (old Eastslavic/oldBelarussian) till 16th century, and than it was Polish. Vilnius and Vilnius region were Polish: in 16th century (and then up to 1939) Lithuanians were just 1% of its inhabitants. Most of inhabitants of this region were completely polonized (not forced to it, but by intermarriages and Polish settlement from Mazovia province in Poland since 15th century and because of the influence of Polish culture). More, the whole Lithuanian and Belarussian gentry was polonized in the same way and inhabitants of many towns). But Vilnius region was polonized all - with peasants too,and also neighboring Grodno city and Grodno region in Belarus for example. Vilnius was established by Lithuanians, but was polonized very quickly (and happily, not by force) and then Poles and Polish kings developed the town and, basically, built it. It is capital city of Lithuania today,but at the same time it is also the Polish heritage. Even university in Vilnius was established by Polish king Stefan Batory in the begining of 17th century.
the university creator is a transylvanian which was been elected as a king of poland btw he was a member of hungary batory noble family. to me you are a polish propogizer, you might want to do something bad to the lithuania, and you may be trying to give lithuanians false information to believe, then change their history things. to make me believe in you more/trust you more, please give me a NON-polish source that tells the lithuanians were very polonized. its like a lithuanian person married with a polish person, and they get a pole. if i would be a ruler of medieval lithuania, i would task my men to kill you. My country believes in their stuff, also don't even try to conquer my country with internet propoganda or whatever you do half or more lithuanians hate poles, even some discriminate them for being such propogizers like you. maybe we know our history better than the dang poles!?
Luky- so No you are wrong. The only Lthuanian on the Polish throne was Jagiello. Poland was a stong kingdom during Piast dynasty for 500 years and then it was under Jagiellonian dynasty for 200 years- but Jagiellonian dynasty lost strong, central position in the country and nobles took the power (by the way - nobl;es were 10% of the Polish society, they were mostly knights/fighters having t lands given them mostly by Piasts in 10-13 centuries ). Jagiello was the only Lithuanian in that dynasty and formally became d'Anjou (it was Hungarian part od d'Anyou mixed strongly with Piasts and Habsburgs). And formally Jagiello became just the husband of Polish king Jadwiga d'Anjou a niece of Polish king Casimir the Great from Piasts (the best Polish king in the history). Jagiello's children were half Lithuanian, his grandchidren were 1/4 Lithuanan, his great grand children were 1/8 Lithuaniani and so on. The only one really great king from that dynasty was Casimir Jagiellonczyk - the son of Jagiello. Anyway, there were Habsburg wifes, Kiev Russian wife, Germam wifes, Italian wife - the marriages typical for royal families in Europe. But there was never any Lithuanian on the Polish throne except Jagiello.
Ratka Rokas Ratkevičius The university in Vilnius was established by Polish king (elected to be a king of Poland) and financed with Polish money given and confirmed by Polish parliament (Sejm) - it was the era of Rzeczpospolita and Sejm was the decisive power in the Kingdom. Learn history. By the way - Batory was the husband of Anna Jagiellonka, a sister of the last Polish king from Jagiellonian dynasty (a son of Zygmunt the Old and Bona Sforza). His name, Batory, was from the property Bator, given to his family by the Polish king Wladysław IV (from Piasts) : you should also learn something more about Polish-Hungarian history and why Poles and Hungarians were so great friends for the whole last 1000 years and still really love each other (a phenomenon in Europe).
Пашкевич - как будто для таких идиотов как патлатые оппо-"литвины" минских ВУЗов и общеобразовательных школ - "руским" по белому пишет: ЕСТЬ ЛИТВА И ЕСТЬ РУСЬ. РУССКИЙ ЯЗЫК И РУССКАЯ КУЛЬТУРА ДЛЯ ЛИТВЫ - АНАЛОГ ЛАТИНСКОГО ЯЗЫКА И КУЛЬТУРЫ ДЛЯ ПОЛЬШИ. --- "Речь Мелешки" (1618-1622, вероятно) "Литвинутые" тоже не "проходят"? "литовский шляхтич" ничтоже сумняшеся пишет о том, что живет в государстве, которое представляет из себя "Литву и РУСЬ НАШУ". И ТАК У ВСЕХ "ЛИТВИНОВ" во все времена ВКЛ
@dseano221 I'm just a standart sore head for the past.Many people in Lithuania don't even remember that happening....Yes youre relations with germans are better but are they better than Polish and Russian relations ? just asking :)
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I'm from Poland, and i think, that Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was the strongest country in europe in XVI century. Greetings from Poland to our Lithuanian brothers :). BTW Vilnius is Lithuanian city ;)
Thanks
Poland and lithuania the best im from ltu too
Thanks
Imagine HIMARS at that time.. lol
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Well done. It is difficult to find videos of this story. Thanks, from Argentina!
Labai aciu. profesionaliai padaryta , gerai igarsinta , bet svarbiausiai ideja ir meile. Labai aciu !
Żenujące te komentarze....
Był ślub (Unia) miedzy Polską i Litwą? Był! Rozpadło się małżeństwo? Tak! Więc każdy wraca na swoje miejsce sprzed ślubu!
Wilno było, jest i zawsze będzie litewskie!.Warszawa była, jest i zawsze będzie Polska!
Rzeczypospolita była związkiem zamieszkiwanym przez wiele narodów:Polaków, Litwinów,Białorusinów, Ukraińców...
Dziś Polacy i Litwini znów są razem.Choć to już inne małżeństwo. A do Rodziny trzeba zaprosić tych co kiedyś byli z nami.Dawne rany się zagoją i będziemy żyć w zgodzie. Jesteśmy to winni naszym Praojcom. Jeśli tego nie zrobimy to znów znikniemy z mapy Europy...
Racja.
dai bog,,,tilko ci mozgu starcie,,,jak pacitam komentr to ,strah biezie,kazdy mondry ,kazdy vie vsisko
Really great video!! Thanks for uploading! :)
Greets from Poland!
I learned a little bit a history of my neighbour country.
Ačiu, broliukas!
Nice video.
Greetings from Poland ! :)
Greeting from Poland.Long live lithuania :)
thanks ;)and greetings to poland our old friend!
ummm what?
***** Co ty piszesz? My sami byliśmy wtedy bardzo słabi i pokonaliśmy krzyżaków dzięki zjednoczeniu się z Litwą.
Pancerny Husar at least youre one that doesnt say wilno is ours kill lithuanians etc.
legionek Wzasadzię to Polska była tym silniejszym. Fakt, że bez unii obejść się nie mogło to jednak na ,,słabość'' narzekać nie musimy :3 (tymbardziej, że Kazimierz Wielki odwalił kawał dobrej roboty). Jednak trzeba pamiętać, że Litwa poza obszarem nie miała prawie nic. Zwłaszcza biorąc pod uwagę fakt, że w tamtych czasach siłę państwa mierzyło się w ilości zaludnienia, a Litwa nie miała tego zbyt dużo. + Warto pamiętać, że pierwsze sukcesy z krzyżakami były już za czasów Władysława Łokietka :) (fakt odziwo pomijany). Oczywiście nie mam nic do Litwinów jak i do całej unii :) szkoda tylko, że historia tak się ułożyła, że nienawidzimy się nawzajem :d i dlatego staram się zakopać tą internetową wojenkę :d
Long live Lietuva, the proud country and proud nation! Best regards from Poland :)
Niezły ignorant albo trol. Ewentualnie masochista, który lubić być opluwany przez zakompleksioną bandę.
Przedstawiasz siebie czy co? Bo nie rozumiem
TheJulius03 Czyli `rozumiesz` tak samo, jak to co komentujesz.
Nie rozumiem twojego debilnego komentarza, którym zacząłeś tą dyskusję, ot co.
Nie chcę Ciebie obrażać , ale naiwność niektórych osób mnie poraża. Jak uważasz, że to ja jestem debilem to wejdź sobie np na DELFI PL i zobacz jak Litwini, których tak pozdrawiasz , potraktują Ciebie za napisanie czegoś po polsku.
Happy New Year
from Poland
mes turejom tiek daug zemiu (:C
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To all Polish/Belarussian trolls. Have you seen the maps that show expansion of Lithuania? First expansions occupies Lida,Grodno, Ashmeny not even Minsk. The core of Lithuania was from Kaunas to Lida. 1918 borders of Lithuania should be restored.
you have a point man, but Poles was ones to occupy our capital not us, and to all those brainwashed Poles who think that Vilnius is their city TELL ME WHO BUILT VILNIUS? (YES LITHUANIANS)
***** 1-2% are you kidding? That story has been long confirmed to be Polish inter war governments hoax. Because why would crowds of thousands welcome Lithuanian army when Vilnius was liberated?
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***** Lol yeah whatever you say, the majority city support for integration with Lithuania must have been some unexplained miracle. And you should just be happy that Lithuanians allowed for the remaining Poles to stay unlike Ukraine who deported all the Poles from Lviv region.
***** That's one way to put something out of context. And believe what you want, makes 0 difference.
***** so if now hundreds of thousands of lithuanians go to Warsaw we make the majority of that city we can claim like its ours? as i told don't forget who built Vilnius!!
Nice video. Greetings from Poland ;)
Zawsze was lubiłem bracia koledzy litwini! niema co państwo wielkie że bach szkoda tylko że teraz tacy mali jesteście Chwała wam!
Lenkija&Lietuva
My też za duzi nie jesteśmy w porównaniu do kiedyś...
I'm a little bit sad that we lost all that space.....
Well,I'm glad that we still live here and we have a beautiful country!
Для этого «общества» не имеет значения, что из 50 полков во главе с польским королем Ягайло и великим князем литовским Витаутасом только 3 были из Смоленска. Оно также "забыло", что в то время Смоленск принадлежал Литве в союзе с Польшей. Русские...мастера проведения исторической политики, факты не играют для них особо большой роли".
Čiulpų bybį gaidį ir eik naxui
@OMUO64 Ačiū už gražius žodžius.
Taip, slapyvardis kiek vaikiškas (dėl "sh:)), bet registravausi čia dar labai jaunas būdamas ir nebuvo kaip "š" raidės įdėti:)
Kurta mano paties, bet pats matau labai daug taisytinų vietų, ko nepastebėjau prieš porą metų:)
Sėkmės!
Greetings from Polish Friends, Poland n' Lithuania 4ever
great, informative, professional.
A little mistake - In 1918 Vilnius was yours. Wilno was ours from 1920 (Želigovskio maištas), officially from 1923.
Good work thought ;)
GDL was an awesome and powerfull country the only problem was the fact,that there too many enemies against it(Turks,tatars,Muscovites(Russians),Polish.Grand Duchy of Lithuania was an unique nation:It honored human rights in the Middleage!Lithuanians were the only ones who had Ukrainian territory and didnt threat us like animals.That is why there were no uprisings in Ukraine during 1362-1569.After that Polish had some lovelly time killing rebelions almost every 10 years(1590,1594,1625,1630,1635,1637-1638,1648,1651,1702,1768) xD Nice video man,like.
OrkosUA Yes. Grand Duchy of Lithuania should have helped Novgorod.. Lithuanian troops raided Moscow many times... I am not so sure why Vytautas did not finish off Muscovy when we had the chance, with our Belarussian and Ukranian friends.
1MuchButteR1 mistakes for which we all had to pay for hundreds of years later...
OrkosUA I am sure Polish Noble Men had something to do with it... They prevented Duke Vytautas from receiving his crown and becoming King, and establishing the Great Kingdom of Lithuania.
1MuchButteR1 It can be possible.Had Vitovt Muscovian and Lithuanian army - he would have had enough power to crush anyone who could attack Lithuania.So he wouldn't have needed to accept Unia of Lublin.And thus Lithuania would have been powerful and independent for good.Great Kingdom of Lithuania...sounds awesome.But wait,didn't Mindaug had the crown?Then why did his son rejected that title?And by the way,why do you call Belarus Gudiya and Germany Vokietiya?Just interesting why.
OrkosUA We call Belarus Gudija probabaly because we have long common history with them , and I think it sounds nicer than calling them "White-Russians." For Germany.. I heard there was a tail that a Samogitian (Low land Lithuanian) tried to kill/knock out a captured German. So the Samogitian had to hit him over the head like 4 times before the German was knocked out. The Samogitian said... "Vo... Kiets." "Vo" meaning "how/very," and "kiets" is a Samogitian pronunciation for "kietas" which means strong/hard. In conclusion you can say that Germany in Lithuanian means "strong" land.
Blogiau sukurti toki filmuka niekas tikriausiai nesugebetu.
Per 13 metų tik 1,5k paspaudė like… Taip visiems ir rūpi lietuvėlė.. Dėl to jin taip vėtyta ir mėtyta… Kokie mes apkiautę esam ir už save negalim pastovėti.. Vienos iš seniausių kalbų atstovų žmonėms turėtų būti ne visvien kur gyvenam ir kas mūsų laukia…
@DelTevynes I'm Pole and I agree with you. I'm sorry for that if this mean something to you. I think Poland and Lithuania should keep together. It's the pity that conflict over the Vilnius region destroyed the very strong ties between our nations after centuries. Pilsudski never shouldn't do it. Poles today are willing to accept and realize the error of those times. But I dare to say That Lithuanians to not give a chance for reconciliation. But you have the right to do that.
visos bedos tik per sudlenkius
If people would stop insulting each other perhaps you would have more time for real discussion and discovery.
Nice video , greetings from Argentina
haha if we where still alive we could take over Poland! :( if we did survive russia and germany wouldnt have wars poland would stop that that is if ''Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth'' empire survived...our gentry i think what its called if the Lithuanian and Polish gentrys would of made up and not be mad at each other and well...win polish lithuanian commowealth was in place...we became weaker and weaker and weaker with all the riots and not making up...if we survived :(WE WOULD START WITH THE BALTIC COUNTRYS BALERUSS,POLAND eeerrr...lets leave germany alone for a little and all the other countrys ecept france and german aaa Le France Paris
NoMoneyNoLife NoMoneyNoLife hi man, i am lithuanian too, and if this converstation is on a english comment with your comment english. So i'll write english too: taking over poland is a not good plan, we need to use our old plan - you see huge countries at beginning of video with small lithuania? it has expanded and done it. Now we're a little better, we have a coastal city giving us much trade power. We should focus on weaponizing, military science to reach our goals, Example in schools, per math we would learn strategy than those calculations, giving us more generals and commanders per war. But mostly now we need to add to schools economy lessons. Without them we'll remain weak because of low funds.
Le BlockLord damn you're right :I
NoMoneyNoLife NoMoneyNoLife yeah, so next time when you go to school, you should know that your knowledge is the way that lithuania can become powerful. math is mostly good for economy and strategy. most students in school are doing some random bad things or they just are like sleeping and being lazy out there.
Le BlockLord yeah your really smart in wich grade are you in im in 4th
Im from Ukraine.
We love Lithuanians here. ;)
Hello my friend, greetings from Lithuania!
Hello friend, I'm from Lithuania and I send best wishes to you!🇱🇹❤️🇺🇦
"Litwo Ojczyzno Moja Ty jesteś jak zdrowie, ile Cie trzeba cenić, ten tylko sie dowie, kto Cie stracił" Święte słowa, musimy odzyskać te tereny
polski, to zawód a nie naród ......
Suck my
Slove Lietuvai!!!
Pabaigoj reikėtų klaidą ištaisyt - II pasaulinio karo metu Lietuva okupuojama pirmiausia SSRS, tada Vokietijos, o tada vėl SSRS
Teisingai ;D
No problem friend :) It's amazing how borders are changable during the centuries! Best regards :)
yey!
out south neighbors have a colorfull history.. :)
Sveicieni no latvijas!
oo braliukas!
super
@Heke1959 Ačiū, kad pasidalinot, sėkmės kuriant video :)
@rakuuu85 Yes, the name "Belarus" is in fact creation of XIXc, Muscovite Tzar issued some "ukaz" which banned the very name "Lithuania" and promoted that "Belarus" instead. Not sure how it`s at now, but in II RP most of "Belarussian" peasants when asked for nationality were confused and replied "tutejszy" (local).
A >Lithuanian< was just a citizen of the Grand Duchy, nobility with the time begun to speak Polish, so the Poles in Lithuania are just... Lithuanian nobility :)
Jei čia tokios nesamonės, tai Tamsta galit ir nežiūrėt :) Beje, padorių žemėlapių su lietuvškais pavadinimais gana sunku rasti, ypač senovės Europos.
Kam tu čia rašai?
Dėkui už pastebėjimus. Net pačiam keista kaip čia su tais metais apsižioplinau :D
Aš galvoju,kad ko ten lietuviai prie Joduosios jūros puolė, nejaugi arklius girdyti?
Can you write english polskai jus
Man patiko apie istorijos pasokojima ir labai idomu 😀
I want it to be mighty as in the past
Saunus videjo +120 :) man 21m, bet dar neikaroto nezinojau tokiu dalyku, tikriausiai del to jog sunkiai suprasdavau istorija is knygu :D
Wow. Thanks :)
POLAND & LITHUANIA FRIENDS 4LIFE
@CavalryMillitia
Litwa mogła być w 1918 w jednym państwie z Polakami, ale zamiast tego chciała być państwem małym !
Labai geras, tokių tik daugiau!
@Heke1959 Laba,
Nepamirštu, tiesiog nelabai randu žemėlapių iš to meto :)
We have history, which no one have.
We survived all wars, and We're alive.
Lithuania is cool.
There should be no hate between our nations, together we were great power, we are weak alone. Love from Poland!
Kaliningradas mūsų!
Ne
Tai Mažoji Lietuva, bet buvo nuvokietinta, o vėliau sunaikinta rusofašistų.
@manestainekaso o tu ka copy ir past darai is maironio eilerasciu ir cia floodini?
@Divirix1 Pridėti ir angliški komentarai :)
@PolskiHetman V Polsce nikt niepiše nazvisk po Litevsku,niema u vas takih liter.Bylem v Punsku i znam jak tam jest,bendže sporo problem ježeli chceš pomieniač nazvisko.Teras napisalem našimi literami,ružnica jest?
Hehe Polska znaczy Lenkija :D
Very nice name :D:D
Co tu się dziwić Litwinom, skoro od czasu szczególnie Unii Lubelskiej ulegli totalnej polonizacji. Niemal całkowicie utracili swoją tożsamość. Dopiero rozbiory Rzeczpospolitej obudziły w nich poczucie własnej tożsamości. Odrodzili powoli swój język i obyczaje...
Za cóż, nas Polaków, ta nowożytna Litwa ma kochać? Chyba nie za to ze z bytami pchaliśmy się do ich historycznej stolicy, Wilna! Nie dziwie się nawet ich tak ostremu postępowaniu wobec obecnej mniejszości polskiej na Litwie.
Pšėkai namo,su jusu atliekomis tuteišais,šudlenkiais iš Lietuvos su savo Tomasevskiu-:DDD
beja, dar vienas pastebejimas, lenkai okupuoja vilniu 1919 o ne 1918 kaip pavaizduota zemelapyje. Beto buvo galima isskirti lenku is LDK perimtas teritorijas unijos metu, Klaipedos krasto ir VIlniaus krasto atgavimo datas, bei teritoriju kaita nepriklausomybes kovu metu. O siaip - tikrai geras video - pagirtina.
1:19 was the best time for all......
discouniverse, Deja, kai lipdžiau šį filmuką, nelabai būčiau galėjęs kažką mandro nupiešti pagal save, čia yra tiesiog nuotraukos iš knygų ar interneto :) O jei ne viai tiksli informacija, tai ne mane kaltint reikia. Tikslios vaizdinės informacijos tikrai mažai iš tų laikų :)
Informacija daug maz tiksli.Prie caro buvo gubernija o Tarybu Sajungos laikotarpiu buvo respublika.Kai buvo taip sakoma sajunga su lenkais tai greiciau buvo okupacija ir pjauste Lietuva 3 kartus.Lietuva salis su labai garbinga.turtinga istorija.Zalgirio musis.Lietuvos Didzioji kunigaikstyste nuo Baltijos juros iki Juodosios juros.Daug galima kalbeti apie istorija.apie zmones.Kristijonas Donelaitis.Maironis.Vincas kudirka.Vienuolis...
Lietuva for ever best..
Гавно твои жмуды до 18 века письменности не имели, а до 15 с каменными топорами бегали
Дикари 😆😭😂🤣
Polish ppl have always great respect for Lithuanians. Litwa is our pride and good friend. Together we were most tolerant, liberal and biggest country in eastern Europe ever. Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth FTW!
this video is created by lithuanian not polish
Karlas Zuzickas and? you're saying that Lithuanian lands always belonged to you? It's OUR history too, thank you very much.
Dabar tokia mažytė mūsų šalelė, napalyginsi su praeities mūsiške. Bet svarbiausia mes esame labai graži, didinga, nepasiduodanti šalis. Tik gaila, kad vis migruojam į kitas šalis, nebėr tokios patriotinės dvasios mums, kaip senoliams buvo... Bet aš myliu Lietuvą ir visada mylėsiu kad ir kas benutiktų. :]]
Visas pasaulis migruoja ir rai yra normalu. Mes buvome ilgai uždaryti okupantų siena, pagalvokit kiek daug žmonių būtų pabėgę sovietmečiu, kiek bėgo, bet buvo pagauti, pasodinti į sibiro kalėjimus ar paguldyti į psichiatrinę. Tik gaila ir dabar dar neviską sužinom, okupantai naikino įrodymus..
Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów, "Litwo ojczyzno moja ty jesteś jak zdrowie, ile cię trzeba cenić ten tylko się dowie kto cię stracił ,,,," - wtedy byliśmy jednym narodem,
+Marcin T Wtedy to nawet Żydzi Polskę kochali jak ojczyznę...
+Marcin T Nadal nim jesteśmy żmudzkie bydło nie ma nic wspólnego z Polskim Wilnem i Litwą Środkową Wileńską . Wszystkie te majaczenia to wpisy pacjenta z Zakładu Psychiatrycznego w ramach zajęć terapeutycznych.
don't argue friends, we both have a rich history, a history together...stop arguing and be proud of it....my lithuanian friends !!
Lithuania+Latvia+Belarus = Great Lithuanian federation.
Why would Latvia and Belarus what to form a federation with Lithuania? Just asking.
Because Belarusian nationalists call themselves Lithuanians, and Latvians are our baltic brothers.
1MuchButteR1
Sounds more like fanciful dreaming and not based on real aspirations of those nations in question. You would have Belarus and Latvia as minor players in a greater Lithuanian federation? They would rather join the EU before forming a federation of no consequence or means of thriving.
ArcherWook Yes it may sound like fantasy right now. But I would have said a month ago that Russia annexing parts of Ukraine in 21st century was just a fantasy as well.
1MuchButteR1
Really? well don't be too surprised when Russia starts "liberating" parts of Eastern Ukraine in the future. Russia has expressed several times that it wants to reunite its people with the motherland. This may be just the beginning of a greater storm. As for your federation? Too small and there are already several federations/unions competing for your coin. So No, I don't see your version of federation ever materializing in this century. Maybe if the EU were to collapse and there was no other club to join, maybe, but not very probable.
labai geras klipas, ačiū už istorijos pamoką, ir už meilę Lietuvai
Lithuania + Belarus = Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
Stay strong balt brother. Разам пераможымо!
Čiulpų bybį gaidį ir eik naxui
omg. Thanks you autor for this film. Now i know Poland and Lithuania have the same history. And this shit 123 years of Ocupation. Best wishes for independent country. ( Sorry for my English)
Nekenčiu Rusijos, Baltarusijos.
Ir Aš
Ne jus vieni
Nu faking ją valdo Putinas, Baltarusiją Lukašenka jie šūdini prizidentai
As ir
Aš irgi
labai jau daug klaidu ;) pvz.:„1990 kovo 11d. Lietuva paskelbe nepriklausomybę“
juk Lietuva tais metais buvo atkurta o ne paskelbta ;) bet vis tiek ačiū gražu :)
In 1450, Poland looked as shit against Lithuania.
Lietuvos Patriotas In Poland were more cities and villages and we polonisated you. Now Lithuania look like polish region (something like Wielkopolska, Małopolska or Mazowsze). And it true but Lithuania were something like polish province.
***** hey whats poland is it a russian village
Lithuania is something like polish toilet.
***** nah warsaw is toilet and krakow is dumpyard
***** Polish history are shit against our great history, battles (Žalgirio, Durbės).
Greetings to all Lithuanians, wether you want it our not we are brothers ! We shared history, great leaders. There's no need for puny wars now.
Rzeczypospolita obojga narodów, to jest to !
You're Spying Tacy sobie? Szwecja ma jedną z najsilniejszych gospodarek na świecie
Samogitia wasn't the only Baltic tribe that united into Lithuania. It was the formation of multiple Baltic tribes that formed Lithuania. Even today samogitians are only 30% of Lithuania.
yes! my countrys epicand sad history like us lithuanians say:lithuania the land of heroes!
@Vessemir Sure there wher pols but not 60% in 1918 in 1920 when Vilnius occupated that numbers of course increased
So, please, tell the whole story of the Grand Duchy to the world!
Long live Рэч Паспалітая! :-)
It's the only way these names are given in polish schools. I know a lot of people here in Poland who left Lithuania after the war with names like Możwiłło, Możejko, Wojtonis, Martusewicz and I can only guess they names were like Mazvilas, Mazeikas, Vaitonis, Martusevicius (I probably give those wrong anyway) so it's hard both ways. But I hope this'll make easier to understand each other in the end.
Sad to see Poles and Lithuanians arguing over shit here...
We were once one strong nation, stopped Muslim invasion in 1683, we did well against Russia, a nation that many others struggled against...
Respects from Poland (I have nothing against Lithuanians)
what is sound 2:03 ? i'm like this sound :)
Поражают делитанты. Найдите хоть одну старую кару, где бы Самогития (нынешняя Летува без Виленского края) называлась Литвой, а нынешняя Беларусь - нет. Ну хоть одну. И есть сотня карт старых, где нынешняя Беларусь - Литва.
@krzyzakwlkp ok i see your point, but i have queston what was the Capital of Lithuania all times? the answer is Vilnius, but you say that is Polish city so how it could be capital of other country ?
Why we can't all be friends against real enemy? Can someone explain me why "patriots" from Poland and Lithuania are fighting in the comments?
Walrus Thanks for some good words:) Greeting from Poznan.
+hubert wawrzyniak u r right we should beat the living fuck out of western europe and skandinavians fuck em we now clean their toilets and keep money in their banks so they can live well ...
PhoenixZ Okey, then I must hate Russians and Germans because they killed many Polish and occupied my country for long time?
PhoenixZ History must be remeberd, but if we will be still fighting, we didn't learn anything from our past.
"However Vilnius is occupied by Poland" At that time (between 1919 and 1939) About 60% of people living in Vilnius were Polish, about 30% were Jewish and about 7% were Lithuanian.
You mean Polonised lithuanians?
O kur dingo laikotarpis nuo 1009 iki 1209 metu? :)
Nieko per tą laiką svarbaus neatsitiko todėl ir nėra
grazu geras darbelis.
If Vilnius should be Polish, then Gdansk should be German.
+michael mills
Gdańsk:
-polish-700 years
-german-300 years
Gdansk came under the Polish Crown in 1466 at the Second Peace of Thorn, and remained so until 1792 when it was annexed by Prussia. Thus it was under Polish rule for 326 years. It did not come under Polish rule again until 1945. Total period of Polish rule until present = 326 + 71 = 397 years. Not quite 700 years. By contrast, Vilnius was a Lithuanian city from the time of its foundation until the extinction of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in 1795. It was seized by Poland in 1920, and given back to Lithuania by Stalin in 1939, hence it was under Polish rule for only 19 years.
Vilnius
-poland 20years
-Lithuania 1000years
michael mills Earlier in the beginning of gdańsk's history it was a polish city (997-1308~311 years). 397+311=708. In the Interwar peroid Gdańsk was something like poland's puppet state (19 years). 708+19=727.
Fi 0Z U are right. Lviv is Polish, Vilnius is Lithunian.
Gražu, tačiau nėra 1918 m Lietuvos žemėlapio iki Lenkijos aneksijos
jei ne lenkai, ir ju apsileide kunigaiksciai Lietuva butu didele ir db.
Reikia džiaugtis kad išvis turim savo šalį ir niekas nenurodineja kaip mums gyventi.
Before the Polish - Lithuanian Union between our countries was a permanent continuous war. I live 5 km from the old border with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Before the Union was not possible to live there. Lithuanians regularly conducted invasions, burned a couple of times Lublin. And we regularly set out to conquer out the Lithuanians. Every year something was wrong on both sides. After the Pl. -Lt. Union was peace.
Currently, Lithuania goes its own way. We do not intend to disturb you.
vsie belorusy zhili v Novgorode i v Pskove i eto byli Litovskije zemli...chitajte pridurki Mykolas Lietuvis 1550 god
😂❤
Sorry, Lithuanian nation, but that big Grand Duchy of Lithuania was mostly, in 80%, Ruthenian one (Belarussian) There were many smaller half-independent states with their own princes in it and its structure was looseness. It was not the one state at all, rather kind of confederation of small states. An official language of Grand Duchy was Ruthenian (old Eastslavic/oldBelarussian) till 16th century, and than it was Polish. Vilnius and Vilnius region were Polish: in 16th century (and then up to 1939) Lithuanians were just 1% of its inhabitants. Most of inhabitants of this region were completely polonized (not forced to it, but by intermarriages and Polish settlement from Mazovia province in Poland since 15th century and because of the influence of Polish culture). More, the whole Lithuanian and Belarussian gentry was polonized in the same way and inhabitants of many towns). But Vilnius region was polonized all - with peasants too,and also neighboring Grodno city and Grodno region in Belarus for example. Vilnius was established by Lithuanians, but was polonized very quickly (and happily, not by force) and then Poles and Polish kings developed the town and, basically, built it. It is capital city of Lithuania today,but at the same time it is also the Polish heritage. Even university in Vilnius was established by Polish king Stefan Batory in the begining of 17th century.
the university creator is a transylvanian which was been elected as a king of poland btw he was a member of hungary batory noble family. to me you are a polish propogizer, you might want to do something bad to the lithuania, and you may be trying to give lithuanians false information to believe, then change their history things. to make me believe in you more/trust you more, please give me a NON-polish source that tells the lithuanians were very polonized. its like a lithuanian person married with a polish person, and they get a pole. if i would be a ruler of medieval lithuania, i would task my men to kill you. My country believes in their stuff, also don't even try to conquer my country with internet propoganda or whatever you do half or more lithuanians hate poles, even some discriminate them for being such propogizers like you. maybe we know our history better than the dang poles!?
Luky- so No you are wrong. The only Lthuanian on the Polish throne was Jagiello. Poland was a stong kingdom during Piast dynasty for 500 years and then it was under Jagiellonian dynasty for 200 years- but Jagiellonian dynasty lost strong, central position in the country and nobles took the power (by the way - nobl;es were 10% of the Polish society, they were mostly knights/fighters having t lands given them mostly by Piasts in 10-13 centuries ).
Jagiello was the only Lithuanian in that dynasty and formally became d'Anjou (it was Hungarian part od d'Anyou mixed strongly with Piasts and Habsburgs). And formally Jagiello became just the husband of Polish king Jadwiga d'Anjou a niece of Polish king Casimir the Great from Piasts (the best Polish king in the history). Jagiello's children were half Lithuanian, his grandchidren were 1/4 Lithuanan, his great grand children were 1/8 Lithuaniani and so on. The only one really great king from that dynasty was Casimir Jagiellonczyk - the son of Jagiello. Anyway, there were Habsburg wifes, Kiev Russian wife, Germam wifes, Italian wife - the marriages typical for royal families in Europe. But there was never any Lithuanian on the Polish throne except Jagiello.
You are ordinary polish history fairytailer
you wish!
Ratka Rokas Ratkevičius The university in Vilnius was established by Polish king (elected to be a king of Poland) and financed with Polish money given and confirmed by Polish parliament (Sejm) - it was the era of Rzeczpospolita and Sejm was the decisive power in the Kingdom. Learn history. By the way - Batory was the husband of Anna Jagiellonka, a sister of the last Polish king from Jagiellonian dynasty (a son of Zygmunt the Old and Bona Sforza). His name, Batory, was from the property Bator, given to his family by the Polish king Wladysław IV (from Piasts) : you should also learn something more about Polish-Hungarian history and why Poles and Hungarians were so great friends for the whole last 1000 years and still really love each other (a phenomenon in Europe).
sveikas robertai prof. Zinkevičius apie tai ir šneka. Paskaityk atsakyma katažynai ir suprasi.
Пашкевич - как будто для таких идиотов как патлатые оппо-"литвины" минских ВУЗов и общеобразовательных школ - "руским" по белому пишет:
ЕСТЬ ЛИТВА
И ЕСТЬ РУСЬ.
РУССКИЙ ЯЗЫК И РУССКАЯ КУЛЬТУРА ДЛЯ ЛИТВЫ - АНАЛОГ ЛАТИНСКОГО ЯЗЫКА И КУЛЬТУРЫ ДЛЯ ПОЛЬШИ.
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"Речь Мелешки" (1618-1622, вероятно) "Литвинутые" тоже не "проходят"?
"литовский шляхтич" ничтоже сумняшеся пишет о том, что живет в государстве, которое представляет из себя "Литву и РУСЬ НАШУ".
И ТАК У ВСЕХ "ЛИТВИНОВ" во все времена ВКЛ
Čiulpų bybį gaidį ir eik naxui
Jus pasiziurekit I lenkija ar man vienam ar ji tik ir spraudziasi I tarpelius tarp valstybiu ?
Is tiesu, dekui Rusijai- jeigu ne ji, tai mes dabar turetume sostine Kauna ir pajuri kokiu 5 km...
@dseano221 I'm just a standart sore head for the past.Many people in Lithuania don't even remember that happening....Yes youre relations with germans are better but are they better than Polish and Russian relations ? just asking :)