International School Lahore | Owners Exposed Private School |
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2023
- 1:10 Intro
3:50 Starting out in the School Business
6:10 What makes a good school?
8:20 What makes ISL Unique?
9:30 What makes ISL unique?
10:40 The most important factor
13:00 Raising the standard
14:50 Schools ignore this major issue
19:30 Do schools teach you to be a good human
24:00 Westernization in schools
27:10 Teaching moral values to kids: The school’s responsibility?
37:00 Co-education & free mixing
43:40 Parents also require Grooming
49:20 Schools compromise on values for money
54:40 Are expensive schools worth it?
59:00 Should Education be a profit business or not?
01:01:15 Business model of other schools vs ISL
01:09:00 ISL’s Facilities
01:12:50 Private schools hiding behind students excellence
01:16:20 Teaching kids to make money
01:17:50 Should students studying abroad return to Pakistan?
01:19:40 Students preferring certain teachers
01:35:16 Sports & Extra Curricular are just as Important
01:41:00 Are other schools copying ISL?
01:48:00 Policies of ISL regarding drugs & expulsion
01:56:50 Mental health counselling in ISL
International school owners exposed the reality of education.
Reality behind good grades and Hardwork.
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Thank god for eon podcasts, rather jumping on the bandwagon and getting same actors/singers/ insta influencers to yap, they’ve put a testament to “new age of discourse”. Highly respect your choice of guests.
Do you have their email id or whatsapp no. so that I can provide a relevant feedback?
Sir syllabus apse khatam ho nai raha class mein aap atay nai hain , phelay podcast kar rahein aap (its not about the podcast in particular). The thing is you are literally sacrificing the quality of education of your students because of not being able to balance between teaching chemistry and running the administration of 2 schools as principal owner whatever. And we can do nothing to speak up against this because you have become judge jury and executioner, I have no idea why you don't want the students to have voice against you, even constructively. Its almost as if your biggest fear is giving students leverage in ISL and point out where you are wrong , (as you did in P5 ) XD
Yar itna sach nahi bolna tha XD
Are you student in ISL?
@@khadijafarooq8029 😂
@@mirzaarsalanbaig2567 yes
They r all business man and they have no interest in education
This is a social class based education system and everyone is contributing to support this system and no one focus on middle class or lower middle class education. I hope someone will focus on vocational training institutes also and motivate middle classe and lower middle class also to get certified training and they can go overseas to fulfill their dreams.
Pakistani schools are a business model and their goal is to maximize profit from the poor parents.
Allah ka Shukar hai ke we are seeing such people and issues being highlighted thanks to eon podcast otherwise eik he industry ke ill literate logo ko push kia jata hai
EON team are doing an amazing job. They really are diversifying the range of topics they want to cover.
Hats off to you guys
Keep up the great work
It was Scarsdale International where girls ganged up and beat a girl who complained about drug abuse and alcohol use. It was a wide spread scandal and the school is situated in DHA phase 6 Lahore.
We appreciated your team for highlighting such issues.
according to the fee structure of ISL the monthly fee for A2 is 55,900 which equates to 335400 while the tuition fee for lums is 525,280. i assume that cost of operating lums would be much higher than ISL so why the difference is only 50%? an Alevel school doesnt require PHDS or stuff like that... i guess the fee are not justified. the data is take from website of both institutions
The tuition fees for LUMS for 24/25 year is 19lacs ma'am idk where did you get this number from
@@Fezicles83 website lums
Wow first time ever I m listening any school is taking about the moral, ethics and grade should be the by products.. You guys are gems. You are the one who build the nation May Allah grant you more success, Izzah here and hereafter
They way you portray ISL as such a Pak Daman School. 😂😂
The thing is, they are only saying that comparatively, which is, of course, true, but if we see that on the bigger canvas, ISL is just like any other school that is making slaves of course it's not their mistake that we don't have an education system of our own... Although they could've rather worked towards that, of course ab business to karna hai na😅. I mean, just compare it with our own school, there is no innovation and the same dogma is being carried forth
Any of you have a personal experience of spending some time in ISL?
Yar jab hmra ye adopt kia hua education system slaves paida krha ha to chahy ISL ho ya koi aur , baat ek hi ha
@Siiiiiuuuuu637 There is a big difference between the two, one is producing competent slaves and the other is incompetent slaves... This means that if someone decides to be free, one would be worth something while the other is worthless
@@mahnazmuizat3865 I am a student of ISL A1, coming from LACAS quality of education is the biggest difference.
aesayy galy se pakrain na inhain 1:13:30 . Good discussion overall I was hoping for more challenging questions coming from Asad side but good enough.
Where are the problem what u should discuss in this podcast
It’s more the advertising OF ISL
Thanks for bringing such guests.
The philosphy of our education systems isnt designed for human growth, its designed for the industry(schools) to grow hence the 3500 students lol. ISL or any top tier school for that matter needs to address this. O/A levels ko chaatna band karain aur apna curriculum design karain. 1-2 changes kar k sab same manjan bech rahay hain boss.
Please invite Dr Irfanullah Chaudhary - MIT Alumnus - founder of Maktab School Lahore.
Really need more podcast with ISL kindly colaborate with them
Thank you so much for this podcast
Well the podcast was a great as I have found a school that I can refer to friends and family. Also I wish that a similar school existed in my time during O-levels and A-levels then I might have become a better and productive person but anyways it is nice to see some really good and productive people in the education industry of Pakistan where it is a trend " jisko naukri nai milti woh parhata hi tou hay school or college may". Schools and colleges are places where people are groomed and their future decision making is shaped during these phases which make them great people in the future. One wrong step can not only destroy a person's future but his family's life as well as his future to be family's life as well (Wife and kids).
Sir ali remember few days back when you said " I damn care aplogon ko samajh arha hai ya nai " nd how u told parents on ptm ",mujhe ssubmissive bache pasand hain" AND yes, u do not care anything about a child's mental health only there to operate them with fear. and here you are with the most hypocritical views!
Ah this fuckin' teacher side's pressure
Very nice podcast. Very informative
They way you portray ISL as such a Pak Daman School. 😂😂 (2)
in the schools of Pakistan, the subject of Islam is taught in an apologetic way, it has never been considered as subjectivity and it has never been considered as subjective morality, whereas in European countries and America, objective morality is considered and taught by heart and soul with full conviction, how much we who live in foreign countries feel the lack of the subject of Islamiat, even the best morality system in the world found in wastern countries cannot substitute Islamiat.pakistani kids are lucky having islaimat
Quality Education Is Costly These Days. 😕
Can you imagine they are having this conversation in the 21st century! No wonder the country is going downhill.
Amazing!
Plz enlighten about the home schooling as well..
Bring a opposite view also in the same podcast.
Like one of the lethal critique of education system is Shail Adeem, Salman Asif Siddiqui.
So, you should bring them both the views in a same podcast.
I was really happy to see that life still exist in Pakistan until i read the first comment
Do you have the idea of an ordinary school fee??
Do they have other branches in the Country?
This was such an interesting and an intellectual conversation by Asad and the school owners where all the speakers are respectfully agreeing to disagree,
Looking forward to more discussions like these.
I want to meet to host. Such patience and swings by understandings the guests. Bhai Salaaaam hay aap ko. Warna chorta nai me in ko pani k liaye b
Sir kindly make a podcast on Universities of Pakistan.
Also discuss regarding higher level education i.e. Graduate Post Graduate PhD. Why no colleges equivalent to IITs, IISc (Indian Institute of Sciences), AIIMS etc. exist in Pakistan? Even if they exist are there enough of these colleges?
Why no discussion on Government's responsbility to provide free and compulsory quality education?
One major problem with education system is that people send their children to somebody who they don't even know properly so if a teacher has anger issues or has any kind of bad habit so surely studies of the children will suffer due to his habits or maybe they will pick his bad habits, Parents send their children to learn from those people who they don't even know about
While living in a third world and a poor country where education has the least importance for those who could bring a change, your concerns, which are genuine, look very odd.
@@asadshirkuh8426 This problem exists not only in Pakistan but in whole world as US or Europe also don't have anything special to offer in this regard as Schools choose teachers by themselves and Every student has to learn from them though they might change the teacher upon complaint but they would never ask you to choose teacher of your own liking
@@asadshirkuh8426 This problem can only be fixed if the degree system is abolished and people should find teachers for themselves and should work under mentorship as lawgraduates do internship under a lawyer and they are free to choose any lawyer who they want to do internship under if the lawyer is willing to be their mentor
Great podcast
1:07:00 it's not completely for "free" they take lab fees of 4k/subject/month in A levels, so it goes above 12k per month
They take lab fees in A2 too in the name of 'p5' fees, which has no lab and is a paper based exam
And they don't give 100 percent to everybody. Some het 25 and some get 50 percent which only applies to schools tuition fees not lab fess or any other charges . Even after 50 percent scholar ship students are paying like 25k-30k per month. So them saying education in not profit oriented now a days is complete BULL SHIT.
Nice touch with the gourmet cola, Asad :p
Time-lapse??????
Please put time stamps in your videos.
And they don't give 100 percent to everybody. Some het 25 and some get 50 percent which only applies to schools tuition fees not lab fess or any other charges . Even after 50 percent scholar ship students are paying like 25k-30k per month. So them saying education in not profit oriented now a days is complete BULL SHIT.
I study at isl and I can guarantee that its the best school not based on profit maximisation.
There are classes for o and a level at 1.30- 2.30.😂😂😂
isl did fix the tuition issue
Glad to see Ali sir
He is Chemistry teacher?
I wish we have sahil adeem among these 'so called' slave making business owners, he would have shown them their true faces in the mirror😅 just like he do with 2 faced mullahs
Studied under Sir Muhammad Ali, also aka “Cambridge Boi” (with all due respect), and Sir Shahzad from 2014 to 2016 at LGS, in A levels. Great personalities.
Keenly addressed issues. Good work!
Boht heavy larka hai or boht aLa sawal kr rha inpresive
Musab Was teaching Quran from many years ago
Financial strength ki baat kar rahain 2 2 V8 etron gt and many more muft ki nhi miltin
Failed to answer the basic question on co education. The owners are talking about “identity crises of pakistanis” and yet they themselves are confused. Lot of empty answers without any substance.
Do another podcast with them and add Amaan to it.
legends
Value, Respect, Applaud every positive is for the UMARAH - The Elite
No one talks about the Poor. By the way Middle class b ab poor main he aati hai as per our economic situation.
Their branch is in DHA - That says enough.. It is enough for everybody to understand what their mindset is and what there real ambition is.
48:00 "re-program" that's what schools do, mini dictators!
OH MY GOD I SEE SIR SALMAN
yar tution kon parhta hai
Isl k adhay bachat tou tuition perhtey hein .
It is the polar opposite 😂
01:03:50 ali be like "asad many tera mou tor dena hai ab"
English will always dominate over all vernacular languages. U believe it or not.
100% true
Not always, but agreed that it seems to be
Paid Content??
❤
They owners more sound like as they running a Madrassa
Though the guests are brilliant but mostly siasi jawab when host ask tough questions. Yar bhai private school mafia hay jo baira gharaq kr raha hay kullun tamamun. And i belong family who some are parts to psa and what shit else. Lots to disagree with the guests and with daleel but still they are doing great surely. Just andho me kana raja sorry for the comment but i one of my family member being owner of a school, taught, checked papers, made exams, and what not and best example when it was raining and he put notice on board and walls “swim to school”. And he is having hard times to just even eat normal.
beaconhouse or isl?
Great podcast! Two of the three owners really sounded genuine. The chem teacher was trying to paint a picture of the kind of school he wants, which for me frankly looks more like the schools from Zia's rule. He talked about how religion should be enforced in schools(not in those exact words, but he implied it). Religion should be a choice, it shouldn't be enforced ever, that is how a society breeds extremism. Morality and religion aren't the same, please don't use them as one.
Morality comes from religion (the principles set by Quran and Seerah). True understanding and presentation of religion develops moral values and it is the responsibility of every human being to maintain high standards of morality in the society through their intellectual strength, and this should be the prime focus of our Education System.
I am your true follower of your channel and all persons .I also like asadullah bhai, but he took the side of imran khan on any podcast
So please this is an humble request
Oh bhai 🤌🤌🤌
hmein nhi pta to 16.5%
yea that makes sense lol.
The guy in the black sweater said if you're passionate about it.
I'll say it's your competitiveness which makes you visible in the market zone.
Respected Admin, the uniform for girls is actually not "UNIFORM." Why are there two categories for girls' uniform?
One is a modest look with long qameez with shalwar and sash, and the other one is the most lafantar look with pants and tucked in button shirt. What is the purpose of a uniform? The purpose is to not develop complexes among children, but here, you have deliberately developed complex.
I talked to the vice principal of the school about it, and he said that so many parents objected to shalwar qameez for girls, so ISL admin has given both options to the parents. Like, seriously??
If you change your policies on parents' demands, then where is your own standard?
You should make your own rules, and parents and children have to follow them instead of taking dictations from special kind of parents.
The sad part of this comment is the word used for the uniform. When you're using such a word, it reflects how you think about things. Wearing pants and dress shirts isn't at all lafantar. It looks very elegant and professional. And anybody who agrees to send his/her daughter to this school, must have a broader vision before deciding to send her there.
Here I must clarify, I don't belong to elite class.
@mahnazmuizat3865 My point of view is why are there two different standards of uniform for girls? Why not for boys? Why is the school admin bothered to satisfy those parents who do not want their girls to dress up in shalwar qameez but still want their girls to study at ISL under their terms and conditions?
As far as the trousers and buttoned shirts look very professional, it's everybody's own perspective to adopt what they like. I have no objection to people's choices, but dear, I am talking about uniforms. Either there is no uniform or there is one. Those parents who don't want to see their girls in shalwar qameez even for their uniform are then mentally sick. They live in Pakistan and are ashamed of their national dress.
@@mehreenmoaviya5390 they want to please those parents bcz they must be elite and ISL don't want to loose elites so they alter their policies , It shows they are also looking for money , Our school system is doomed
This is shocking to hear. Two uniforms within the same system. Ive also heard there is a smoking room inside the school?
Isn’t Salman the guy who was a debate coach and used to tell the girls if you want to win the trophy go sleep with the judges. And now he is sitting here. The host should be mindful of the kind of people he invites. Instead he is saying his sister was asked to take off the hijab yes because it’s not part of a school uniform and before all you go crazy about this it’s an all girls school you don’t need a hijab in class. Perhaps out of class cover your head and go home.
پاکستان کے اسکولوں میں اسلام کا مضمون معذرت خواہانہ انداز میں پڑھایا جاتا ہے، اسے کبھی بھی موضوعیت نہیں سمجھا جاتا اور اسے کبھی موضوعی اخلاقیات نہیں سمجھا جاتا، جب کہ یورپی ممالک اور امریکا میں معروضی اخلاقیات کو دل سے سمجھا اور پڑھایا جاتا ہے۔ پورے یقین کے ساتھ کہ ہم پردیس میں رہنے والے اسلامیات کے موضوع کی کمی کو کتنا محسوس کرتے ہیں، دنیا کا بہترین اخلاقی نظام بھی جوباہر ممالک میں پایا جاتا ہے وہ بھی اسلامیات کا متبادل نہیں بن سکتا۔پاکستانی بچے خوش قسمت ہیں کہ اسلامیات حاصل کریں۔
Car parking and drop/ pick ups. Not going to watch the podcast as these people suck. I just want to highlight a petty issue that has become a major one now. We live in nearby society and trust me the most pathetic and useless reason to get late each day for office is just because of ISL poor management on how to manage those who come to drop or pick up their children. Even the adjacent Sector M is full of cars and thats too because of pathetic sense of parking. They should have given a proper route or designed a way for proper parking. Also should start a course for parents and their drivers on how to park the cars without blocking the roads for other commuters. I have also heard that its illegal to do any commercial activity in the area where the school is built.
Fun fact:
In islamic State which is the actula future of the World Destined By Allah:
61. سورۃ الصف:
ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ٪(9)
۹۔ وہ وہی ہے جس نے اپنے رسول کو ہدایت اور دین حق کے ساتھ بھیجا تاکہ اسے تمام ادیان پر غالب کر دے خواہ مشرکین کو ناگوار گزے۔
Medical and Educational services will be under the state's responsibility and will be free.
Then these Private schools will be NATIONALISED and these school owners will be jobless and swearly under debt!!!
even in an islamic state you cant usurp the property of someone, private schools wont be nationalized bhai pata nahi ap ko ye idea kahan sey aya. The owners will be required to establish a halal education in their campus though (no free mixing wagera).
Bakwaas na krain aap thoray say parhay likhay log. Though though though u r doing good but why ur expression is so proud. Why you are not talking the elephant in the room. ????
Well Personally I did not met even one student of ISL who have ethics
most students of ISL are smoker etc
The Only Reason for the success of ISL is that they have the Best teachers of Lahore and the Counseling service for Uni admission. But over all the ethics and discipline is no where to be found.
I really admire the counseling and extra curriculars
Why no discussion regarding making Arabic a compulsary subject?? Dr. Israr had been crying out loud for so many years!
Sir shouldn't the education of deen and duniya both be a choice? You dont teach physics or econ to a kid studying in a madrassa so why should be that a kid studying physics should be also be obligated to study arabic.
@@mustafaahmad909Errr...because its the language of the quran? And I dont get the distinction between a madarsa and a school. There shouldn't be any distinction. A madarsa student ought to study physics as well
Lun Podcast
Intellectual chotiaz except host. The ghost.
Sir, you teach only 2% students of pakistan and of course, you train a corrupt ashrafia in future , wat awam will got with these 2 % students
mummy daddy burger log
Please get an expert in islamic economics to show us the roadmap to get out of this hole we have dug for ourselves
JT TERE JAAAN NISAAR.
Over Religious Countries Will Always Remain Backward.
Upto some extent,I am agreed
If you're referring to Pakistan, firstly its not "over-religious". Secondly, if you're saying this in the sense that religion would inhibit the spread of education, then you would contradict the teachings of the religion, specifically in the case of Islam
@Muslim_Production
In the case of Pakistan, he is 100% right. You should not be hesitant to admit the facts. Unfortunately, since 1977, Pakistan has become hostage by the mullahs. The power they gained during Zia will never end now. Pakistan has become a rigid mullha state since then. Otherwise, it was a progressive and moderate country.Now, Pakistanis, due to their extremism, think that they are the only tekhydar of islam and the real Muslim in the world. If possible, they would love to move kaaba to Pakistan.Even then you are in denial of being "over religious"
What exactly does "over-religious"mean? So you mean we have to step out of the religious boundaries to become modern?
@@mahnazmuizat3865 Become Secular. Respect All Religions. If Christians Become Like Muslims They Will Throw Away All Muslim's From Their Country Like - US, UK, Australia, Canada Etc...
30k fee for O level
Can you imagine
Is poor people can afford?
@@2T5xGOAT waah yr kya bat hai apki jb poor people ko zrorat nhi to ye yahan aa k tamheed ku bandh rahay , They should have told that this podcast only belongs to elite !!!
poor people cant afford 15k@@2T5xGOAT
plz invite @drhafizmuhammadzubair sb.. emerging scholar with modest thinking
Sir ali remember few days back when you said " I damn care aplogon ko samajh arha hai ya nai " nd how u told parents on ptm ",mujhe ssubmissive bache pasand hain" AND yes, u do not care anything about a child's mental health only there to operate them with fear. and here you are with the most hypocritical views!
Sir ali remember few days back when you said " I damn care aplogon ko samajh arha hai ya nai " nd how u told parents on ptm ",mujhe ssubmissive bache pasand hain" AND yes, u do not care anything about a child's mental health only there to operate them with fear. and here you are with the most hypocritical views!
Sir ali remember few days back when you said " I damn care aplogon ko samajh arha hai ya nai " nd how u told parents on ptm ",mujhe ssubmissive bache pasand hain" AND yes, u do not care anything about a child's mental health only there to operate them with fear. and here you are with the most hypocritical views!
Hi mate is this really true ,I was thinking about going here .Is the quality of education beter because i heard reviews and saw the results they semmed very good so is this true and if so which school you recommen and im from matric going into alvels next year .9 th marks 95% and ill try in 10 in march to get good grades