@@BodanzaDiscGolf I am not surprised Latitude 64 is doing a grip thing since the Sinus has grip pads and is one of the brands making at least one grippy disc.
Im not sure about the compass on hyzer. It was thrown pretty flat. But it stabled out fast. Not sure if the wind was different than what you said or not. It didn't look like it did anything it should have. 😂
1:53 Not going to name any names (well yes one). Had a friend who visited latitudes factory back when they started with their orbit products, and Thomas said "This is our new Halo plastic" lol. You're not the only one😂
I was waiting for this video. I grabbed a box for myself. I am enjoying the disc. I have a loose grip and tend to early release, played a round yesterday and shot one of my best rounds.
Cool video, thanks Anthony! I would like to see you throw some of these more. Sometimes I can't see them against the sky, I suppose that's a huge challenge in producing this content!! Some of my most thrown discs are Lat64 (Fuse, River, Saint - moulds that have been around a while), and I'd like to try more. How about a Brave v Project Grip Explorer v River v Maul (plus some others if you like) 7-speed comparison video? That'd be sweet! Love your work, appreciate the content buddy!
Lat 64 used to make overmolded discs - I still have a Fuji on the shelf that flies a lot like a Pyro. There wasn't a problem with patent or anything there - I think they just didn't sell very many of them at the time, so they stopped.
@@jii-ro7083 I would imagine it is because the Trust just suits more people better. But always interesting to know why certain discs don't sell as much as others
@@jii-ro7083 that is true, however I do believe it to be more popular because it holds stability every so slightly more. All a guess tho. Could be a feel thing also. I currently bag neither, but do like the Trust over the compass for my hands
@@Souldk86 I feel like the grand plastic is also that kinda pushes the trust over compass. Marketing and such. Never thrown a trust so cant say anything about the hand feel. I bag an opto compass but i also bag md3 and i kinda always take the md3 over the compass. But my compass is cool huklab one so its hard to leave it out of the bag :D
My favorite mid is an old Sockibomb Opto Compass that I found from a hole in a tall grass field a few years back (there were no number or markings in the disc). It's red so very hard to find from shadowy areas - and wouldn't have been there unless I hadn't a dog pup to walk about with
This is kinda interesting for people who dislike champion/z plastics and prefer Star/ESP but want the stability that comes with the stiffer transparent plastics.
I wonder if the “extra glide” is you being able to put extra spin rpms on the grip discs. Usually extra spin will make the disc pan thru its flight much slower which sometimes appears as “more flippy.” You are correct about pitchers and “sticky substances” in that they are trying to put extra RPMs on them.
I think that this plastic line could be very useful for beginners. The extra rotations could help with distance as well as this plastic making it a little flipper
To check spin rate, get a couple of Game Proofers. Similar to the TechDisc, but you can remove it and reinstall it on any disc you want. The data is still lacking, you can't get nose angle or hyzer angle... yet, (they promise it's coming), and if you throw into a net, no distance estimation, but you can pull the tag off and reinstall it on any disc you want. $10 each plus shipping for the attachment kit.
Can confirm that the explorer is more flippy than a regular run. It flies closer to the brave or something with -1. For my arm and small hands they are perfect. I feel like I can commit to the hit a bit better. Possible just a mental thing but for hitting gaps they are currently money! (Could also be honeymoon phase and a bit sunk cost)
Started bagging an MD3 Chroma IS4 recently... should evidentely compare it with my Opto Glimmery Compass. Its evidently a really good disc that is a backbone even Ricky - with all the choices - have in his bag for all rounds... ;D
I was really hoping the Grace was going to be an overstable version. I found a used one before that was way more stable than most of my other Graces for some reason and it was perfect because I had a neutral grace, and a beat-in one, and now the os one, so I could throw a grace for whatever shot I needed. Alas, it lives in the bottom of a lake now, and none of the graces I've gotten since have been as stable as that one random used one.
IDK about yours, but mine are all significantly below max weight. 169g for the grace compared to the 175g stock grand grace I was comparing it with. 170g for the compass compared to the 178g gold compass they included in the box. The explorer and the pure in my box were lower weights too. All of them flew more understable than the max weight counterparts I was testing them against. I still think they feel amazing (and tbh the 169g grace flies wayyyy better for me than the max weight) but its a little tough for me to fairly compare them.
The Sea Turtle from ocean discs is the best plastic for rainy days - haven´t seen grippiness like that on any other discs ( not an ad, just had those protos for testing : ) !!
From the beginning I got the impression that they couldn't put other plastic other than Royal Grand (or Supreme) plastic in their "Next" molds. This tells me that is clearly wrong and I think a lot of ppl would like a Grace, Rive or Trust in Opto. Meybe in the future? :) Grand plastic feels great but many would argue against it's durability.
My guess is since this project grip process is a newer process than the one required to make the royal line, they made it so they could use it on all older discs. I still don't think we'll be getting any older plastics with the royal line molds. even if it's possible, it'd be a bit short sighted on the business end since they'd be able to market a "new transparent" plastic for the royal line and call it something else and upcharge
Tech disc may not have plastic options to test your grip vs. rpm hypothesis. Could you do a video testing different grip substances on your hand using the tech disc? I think McBeth did a similar non-scientific experiment a couple years back and seems to be the case it helps with spin and distance.
@@BodanzaDiscGolf See if you can get a few of them. I think they're removable, but it's better to have more so you can do a side-by-side comparison. Also my understanding is that the information is more limited and possibly not as accurate as a Techdisc. But should be fun for comparing.
Hey whats up the DD bag? Is it just something you keep for disc reviews, or have you switched to it? Only asking because I use it and love the minimalism of it.
I just have had it for a while, pulled it out for the tags match I filmed where I played with my first in the bag discs since it's the bag I've used and it's been in my car to use for reviews since!
Is the grippy plastic the same as their frost? That is what I immediately thought upon reading about these discs. Most of the discs they released in Frost, Elasto, and Fluid (Lat 64, Westside, and Dynamic) were understable and it made them even more understable. (River, Fuse, Underworld, Tursas, Maverick) Dynamic did release the Felon and Justice in Fluid, but I did not try these two out.
Just got my box. That centre plastic is absolutely frost/elasto/fluid. Side by side they are the same thing - except f/e/f were all semi-transparent. I guess the stiff outer rim plastic allows for more stability. (I have yet to throw one.)
No hyzer and if it was a little bit it was w the intent of flipping it over so do hyzer flips count as hyzers? Idts for the sake of these challenges but Idk if rules exist for this already
It seems like they're using a co-injection molding machine? I uses to work in an Injection molding facility and they did this with buckets to use regrind in the "core" of the plastic and the "skin" was virgin resin. I'd imagine it's entirely possible to do this with 2 different blends of plastic.
I left out my grace on a course a while ago and I’ve been looking at buying a new one for a while maybe I get the project one once they put them out for real
No way you can count a shank as a hyzer. It's the intention that counts here. Also a flat shot with an overstable disc that fades in the end is not a hyzer. What comes to this project grip, I'm all for having more grip on my drivers which tend to slip because I'm forced to throw with fan grip. It's just really weird the way they market it. Project Grip sounds very much like a working title and this was not a proper release. The patent pending part is also interesting, because other companies have done similar and potentially the exact same trials. I get that the market has saturated and bringing new molds as such doesn't drive their sales like it used to. So they have to focus on new plastics and other gimmicks (innovation :D), but the marketing especially seems off here.
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No hyzer, that was straight.
flat release 😊
my hero
@@BodanzaDiscGolf I am not surprised Latitude 64 is doing a grip thing since the Sinus has grip pads and is one of the brands making at least one grippy disc.
I agree it came out of the hand flat
Hi can you do a compare with all the pure plastic and compare them???
the dude in the background fighting demons while you were sitting down talking about over mold discs had me dying 🤣
Im not sure about the compass on hyzer. It was thrown pretty flat. But it stabled out fast. Not sure if the wind was different than what you said or not. It didn't look like it did anything it should have. 😂
1:53 Not going to name any names (well yes one). Had a friend who visited latitudes factory back when they started with their orbit products, and Thomas said "This is our new Halo plastic" lol. You're not the only one😂
This is something Discraft (and, by extension, DGA) should learn. Their premium plastics (ESP/Proline) are so slick.
There's only one project for the disc manufacturers at this point: Project Money-Grab.
Ricky W is throwing the compass.
Great video!
I heard that he is still pretty good.
@@brianc1651 he's decent 😄
I was waiting for this video. I grabbed a box for myself. I am enjoying the disc. I have a loose grip and tend to early release, played a round yesterday and shot one of my best rounds.
Would be intresting to see if you put game proofer smart tag to those discs and showed if it increases rpms
Cool video, thanks Anthony! I would like to see you throw some of these more. Sometimes I can't see them against the sky, I suppose that's a huge challenge in producing this content!!
Some of my most thrown discs are Lat64 (Fuse, River, Saint - moulds that have been around a while), and I'd like to try more. How about a Brave v Project Grip Explorer v River v Maul (plus some others if you like) 7-speed comparison video? That'd be sweet!
Love your work, appreciate the content buddy!
Compass is one of my favorite discs
Lat 64 used to make overmolded discs - I still have a Fuji on the shelf that flies a lot like a Pyro. There wasn't a problem with patent or anything there - I think they just didn't sell very many of them at the time, so they stopped.
As an opto “kompass” thrower, I am very excited.
I wonder why that disc isnt more popular. Its pretty much the same disc as md3 from discmania which is super popular
@@jii-ro7083 I would imagine it is because the Trust just suits more people better. But always interesting to know why certain discs don't sell as much as others
@@Souldk86 but trust is way newer disc. Even Ricky was throwing compasses when he was on latitude
@@jii-ro7083 that is true, however I do believe it to be more popular because it holds stability every so slightly more.
All a guess tho. Could be a feel thing also. I currently bag neither, but do like the Trust over the compass for my hands
@@Souldk86 I feel like the grand plastic is also that kinda pushes the trust over compass. Marketing and such. Never thrown a trust so cant say anything about the hand feel. I bag an opto compass but i also bag md3 and i kinda always take the md3 over the compass. But my compass is cool huklab one so its hard to leave it out of the bag :D
My favorite mid is an old Sockibomb Opto Compass that I found from a hole in a tall grass field a few years back (there were no number or markings in the disc). It's red so very hard to find from shadowy areas - and wouldn't have been there unless I hadn't a dog pup to walk about with
This is kinda interesting for people who dislike champion/z plastics and prefer Star/ESP but want the stability that comes with the stiffer transparent plastics.
I wonder if the “extra glide” is you being able to put extra spin rpms on the grip discs. Usually extra spin will make the disc pan thru its flight much slower which sometimes appears as “more flippy.” You are correct about pitchers and “sticky substances” in that they are trying to put extra RPMs on them.
I think that this plastic line could be very useful for beginners. The extra rotations could help with distance as well as this plastic making it a little flipper
Were your discs in your box on the lighter side?
To check spin rate, get a couple of Game Proofers. Similar to the TechDisc, but you can remove it and reinstall it on any disc you want. The data is still lacking, you can't get nose angle or hyzer angle... yet, (they promise it's coming), and if you throw into a net, no distance estimation, but you can pull the tag off and reinstall it on any disc you want. $10 each plus shipping for the attachment kit.
Not a Hyzer, and it was obvious you were going for a slight turnover shot, so intent matters as well
Can confirm that the explorer is more flippy than a regular run. It flies closer to the brave or something with -1.
For my arm and small hands they are perfect. I feel like I can commit to the hit a bit better. Possible just a mental thing but for hitting gaps they are currently money! (Could also be honeymoon phase and a bit sunk cost)
Bro how yall beat me to the comments! 😅 yall some nocturnal dudes for sure
Good review of the new disc.
Does the proj disc disc not skip as far as regular?
I think the faster discs skip similarly but slower might slow faster (mid and putter). since the grip is on the flight plate and not the rim
Started bagging an MD3 Chroma IS4 recently... should evidentely compare it with my Opto Glimmery Compass. Its evidently a really good disc that is a backbone even Ricky - with all the choices - have in his bag for all rounds... ;D
I was really hoping the Grace was going to be an overstable version. I found a used one before that was way more stable than most of my other Graces for some reason and it was perfect because I had a neutral grace, and a beat-in one, and now the os one, so I could throw a grace for whatever shot I needed. Alas, it lives in the bottom of a lake now, and none of the graces I've gotten since have been as stable as that one random used one.
IDK about yours, but mine are all significantly below max weight. 169g for the grace compared to the 175g stock grand grace I was comparing it with. 170g for the compass compared to the 178g gold compass they included in the box. The explorer and the pure in my box were lower weights too. All of them flew more understable than the max weight counterparts I was testing them against. I still think they feel amazing (and tbh the 169g grace flies wayyyy better for me than the max weight) but its a little tough for me to fairly compare them.
my grace was 172 vs 173 for the other but the other discs were a touch lighter. explorer the only 160 class though, at 169
Only worry if it is a deliberate spike or stall using height to judge distance.
I think this comment will be the standard going forward!
The Sea Turtle from ocean discs is the best plastic for rainy days - haven´t seen grippiness like that on any other discs ( not an ad, just had those protos for testing : ) !!
From the beginning I got the impression that they couldn't put other plastic other than Royal Grand (or Supreme) plastic in their "Next" molds. This tells me that is clearly wrong and I think a lot of ppl would like a Grace, Rive or Trust in Opto. Meybe in the future? :)
Grand plastic feels great but many would argue against it's durability.
My guess is since this project grip process is a newer process than the one required to make the royal line, they made it so they could use it on all older discs. I still don't think we'll be getting any older plastics with the royal line molds. even if it's possible, it'd be a bit short sighted on the business end since they'd be able to market a "new transparent" plastic for the royal line and call it something else and upcharge
Tech disc may not have plastic options to test your grip vs. rpm hypothesis. Could you do a video testing different grip substances on your hand using the tech disc? I think McBeth did a similar non-scientific experiment a couple years back and seems to be the case it helps with spin and distance.
Buy gameproofers and attach to check spin rate in different plastics. That'd be a sick video.
didnt know that existed! I'll reach out and see if they want to send one out!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf See if you can get a few of them. I think they're removable, but it's better to have more so you can do a side-by-side comparison.
Also my understanding is that the information is more limited and possibly not as accurate as a Techdisc. But should be fun for comparing.
Hey whats up the DD bag? Is it just something you keep for disc reviews, or have you switched to it? Only asking because I use it and love the minimalism of it.
I just have had it for a while, pulled it out for the tags match I filmed where I played with my first in the bag discs since it's the bag I've used and it's been in my car to use for reviews since!
Is the grippy plastic the same as their frost? That is what I immediately thought upon reading about these discs. Most of the discs they released in Frost, Elasto, and Fluid (Lat 64, Westside, and Dynamic) were understable and it made them even more understable. (River, Fuse, Underworld, Tursas, Maverick) Dynamic did release the Felon and Justice in Fluid, but I did not try these two out.
no, from what I understand frost is really floppy as well as grippy, the point of these is to keep the stiffness while adding lots of grip
Just got my box. That centre plastic is absolutely frost/elasto/fluid. Side by side they are the same thing - except f/e/f were all semi-transparent. I guess the stiff outer rim plastic allows for more stability. (I have yet to throw one.)
@@bakerby ahh I thought you meant if these were the same I misunderstood my bad! That makes sense
Ill give it as a flat release for sure, slowed it down to .25 and its pure. Just not enough power going uphill, and it stalled out.
That's the flippiest Explorer I've ever seen, lol. I want it
This late night upload is becoming a trend... Get some sleep brotha😂
I've been sleeping great, don't worry 😉
that being said, night night :)
Dude. Great video. Continual substance. Good editing. Keep this up. Sub'd.
thank you! :)
love all my Latitude disks, they are slowly taking over my bag.
can I ask why? I'm searching for my first leap into Disc Golf and am looking for good products
Perfect timing!
No hyzer and if it was a little bit it was w the intent of flipping it over so do hyzer flips count as hyzers?
Idts for the sake of these challenges but Idk if rules exist for this already
It seems like they're using a co-injection molding machine? I uses to work in an Injection molding facility and they did this with buckets to use regrind in the "core" of the plastic and the "skin" was virgin resin. I'd imagine it's entirely possible to do this with 2 different blends of plastic.
that would make sense!
Love what you are doing
No Hyzer! It was straight Bochainza!
Really will only matter when raining is my thought process
No hyzer it just faded out
use me as a skip to first throws on course button 12:22
Discmania already has their version coming soon. Putter plastic though.
Would they give you better grip in the rain ?
I think so, but marginally, I did a water test in the video
That was a straight shot that faded.
I love that watermelon twin sword
Disc me baby! You the man
I think it should only count as a hyzer if it helps you...
😂
I left out my grace on a course a while ago and I’ve been looking at buying a new one for a while maybe I get the project one once they put them out for real
I only throw one Lat64 disc and its a River. None of their other discs feel good imo, regardless of plastic.
No way you can count a shank as a hyzer. It's the intention that counts here. Also a flat shot with an overstable disc that fades in the end is not a hyzer.
What comes to this project grip, I'm all for having more grip on my drivers which tend to slip because I'm forced to throw with fan grip. It's just really weird the way they market it. Project Grip sounds very much like a working title and this was not a proper release. The patent pending part is also interesting, because other companies have done similar and potentially the exact same trials.
I get that the market has saturated and bringing new molds as such doesn't drive their sales like it used to. So they have to focus on new plastics and other gimmicks (innovation :D), but the marketing especially seems off here.
My first ace was with a compass
I must hereby commend you for the proper use of "myriad"
Birdies on a par 4’s should only save one disc, you should just be able to choose a disc your threw on it to save. Eagles for sure 2 discs.
nah, becomes much too difficult since it's always new to me discs, needs the reprieve of the par 4s if they're there
@@BodanzaDiscGolf you’re more than good enough to get it done!
I'll say any less than 5 discs for a 9 / 10 discs for an 18 I can probably implement that
Looks more under stable. Could be because the weight distribution is more even through the disk and less on the rim?
probably a bit on the shape of the disc changing and partially getting more RPMs from better grip
Project grip on the rim of a base line putter? Chain grabbing machine??
Sounds more like a spit out machine
Its like clash discs tone plastic
not really
No hyzer, it needs to be an intentional thing
No chance that was a hyzer. That's a flat shot letting the disc do the work.
Mann that royal grand grace is flat
no hizer straight and just stabled out
Hmm.. a new disc tech gimmicky enough to make me want bag something other than mvp 🤔🤔
Not a hyzer
Give me a disc Bodanza!
Oh wait, you paid your own money.....keep those discs Bodanza!
@@HonduDan 😂
I would have to do par or die
Sounds like it'll be great for wet AND cold weather
definitely not a hyzer
Most interesting is that it is done across the normal and royal line indicating that it is a pretty universal technique
First
Flat shot to me. Its cool seeing new types of discs.
Starting the day with a great video! Revived that box yesterday. My experience is similar flight but much the disc is much grippier
Maybe w a royal grand project grip rive you'll at least be throwin like Sickly Wysocki in no time
Looked flat with plenty of OS fade to me.
Not even close to a hyzer in my opinion.
Lone star is miles ahead of this..without claiming patents…no patents.
In what way? I’ve never thrown a lone star but heard good things!
I've thrown Lone Star and bag a couple of molds, what are you talking about?
Not a hyzer