It’s always gonna be Xavi because of Barca’d standards. But props to the other two cause Arteta made it clear that he wasn’t gonna give up with the Arsenal team after a poor start and Vieira himself didn’t have such a good team for him to compete the way he’s competing now🤝
BS. I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No? When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot. Now counter those facts if you can.... Arteta clear. Arteta even helped Xavi by giving him PEA and Arsenal still flying. Arteta clear.
Arteta has been there for 3 years. Xavi for 4 months. Yet one still made more progress than the other on a tighter budget. I rest my case Edit: all the players for barca that ppl are calling "world class" now were called "finished" before xavi joined. I rest my case again
Real hard between Xavi and Arteta, but I'd give it to Xavi, Arteta hasn't had a win this season against a big club like Liverpool, City, or Chelsea. Xavi's Barca beat Real Madrid 4-0 and turned this Barca team around in a span of a few months...
Winning vs big club? That's not the question. Arteta have done a better job. Let's fight all night. The question is who done a better job reviving the squad. That's clearly Arteta
Barca have had a culture of winning though which Arsenal haven’t had in a while. Arsenal haven’t had the results against City or Liverpool but they have had good performances against them, more so City, that’s an experience and quality thing. That’s a good win for Barca but I don’t think Madrid are on City or Liverpool’s level right now.
@@4thGenna. this is the same team that was 12th in the league and we just beat the league leaders by 4 goals. Man has abumayang looking like r9 and "finished" busquets as the best cdm in la liga . Pique, garcia, and Araujo have all improved as well
@@4thGenna. arsenal were at home to liverpool and lost 0-2. barca went to the santiago bernabeau regardless of the fact benzema wasn't there and thrashed them 4-0. it shows that they have improved much more, because real madrid are much more experienced than barca and have OVERALL better players and barca won like it was nothing. arsenal are improving as well but gt give it to xavi.
This notion that Xavi is suddenly doing well thanks to the January signings is unfair to the work he's done. We saw improved structure and game plan in literally his first game in charge with just one or two training sessions. Barcelona's overall game had massively improved under Xavi even before January. They have now becoming more goalscoring thanks to the signings but they were playing the barca way even before that
Yeah it was all a process, they were already playing better but lacked the finishing that’s the main difference. That’s why We (Barca fans) were happy with the “moral victory” in the supercup el Clasico, because we knew that it was part of the process.
@@jaylucas8352 oh stop it! They have struggled against a team in the relegation zone, struggled in quarterfinals in the Europa league, and been inconsistent. Are they on the rise? Yes. But to say they are becoming the best team is completely laughable
It’s definitely Xavi if you see where they started off this season with all the financial and sporting crisis. Normally, this season had been already written off after Messi left. What’s shocking is how Xavi transformed this Barca side in a shorter time frame than we all expected. And when @wumpus said Xavi beat some big teams, i couldn’t agree more because he beat the big teams and beat them convincingly. Arteta did great, but it’s a project he started before this season without pressure. Xavi came in mid season. It’s just unreal 💯💯💯💯
Xavi is managing Barcelona with a ton of talent in the Midfield and Defense and went out and bought Aubameyang, Traore and Ferran Torres to fix his Forwards. He also did it in a much easier league. Arteta had to work with limited budget in the first 2 seasons, which were hit by Covid and had to work with mediocre players in MF and Defense and still won the FA cup, beating City and Chelsea. Arteta all the way.
After the Bayern loss on 7th December, there were rumours in the media that Xavi promised Laporta that he would take this team to the level of Bayern in one year.
It's a tough call but maybe Xavi only due to him being there a few months. I'm glad Arsenal stuck with Arteta, they were bottom of the league but he's turned them right around. If I'm honest I had Viera and Palace as relegation candidates, nothing in his CV tells you he was the 'right man', but he's bought and coached well so credit where it's due.
"It's a tough call but maybe Xavi only due to him being there a few months" 1.) Xavi took over when Barca was literally 5 points from 4th spot. 2.) He took over with better quality players than that of Arteta's disposal. 3.) Arteta's season is more of a remarkable turnaround, especially combined with the separate league's If you want to compare them after both have taken over after their respective first season began in which they took over during the season, Arteta adopted to what he and won the biggest cup trophy in England, beating Man City and Chelsea. I would love to hear your counter for all these facts that tip the scale to Arteta, clearly.
@@4thGenna. Are you related to arteta or sum? Pls don’t reply something about this being irrelevant cause you say that every time you can’t argue against someone(I’m not trying to argue, just saying)
Is anyone going to mention how Arteta significantly helped Xavi's revamp by gifting him an ELITE goal scorer?!? That's gotta count for something, no? Does Arteta get a manage-on bonus, similar to a sell on?!? 😂😂😂
not really elite, auba is just a solid striker, and the only reason he's getting goals right now is because of how many chances Barca creates for him. He is doing the bare minimum scoring these goals. still a great signing tho just wish he was more deadly and hungry for goals
@@lamentspace Psshhh.... Not at the level of Lewey and Haaland, but far superior to a "solid striker.". He's not just "doing it at Barca.". He's done it everywhere. AND now he's doing it at Barca at the tail end of his career. If that's not elite....Psshhh...lol...
@@maliktv8746 ^^^Yuuupp. He's always had discipline problems, and that didn't work being Captain of such a young Arsenal squad. But no matter what, put him on the field, he scores goals. Everywhere he goes, every league he plays in.
In la Liga, can't you see how easy Auba score compare to scoring in EPL? With a much much better squads. While Arteta inherit shitty squad, and the owner doesn't even want to spent the money. And then it's Barca, easier for them to attract better player even with downgrade on their wages.
@@damifash758 see hazard bro, was his faith. Premier league isn’t hard, dominated by only two teams for 6 years now, Liverpool and man city. The rest is nonsense.
Xavi's Objective = Win every title possible. Arteta's Objective = Fight for 4th place Ridiculous you compare the David vs Golitah. Xavi as a coach is miles ahead like He was a player. Arteta is no his level.
Palace are playing a more exciting brand of football but are in the same spot on the table as they always have been, arteta has been there for 3 seasons and they got much worse before they got better under him, xavi has stepped in and almost instantly made Barca play better (yes he has better players) but you’d have to give him the top spot out of the three.
@@4th-Genna dude you comment the same thing on everyone’s posts 😂, it’s ok you can relax mate I give in Arteta is clearly the most amazing manager in the world and Arsenal are the biggest and best club that’s ever existed, matter of fact Arteta is soo amazing Arsenal might get 4th this year!
@@andrew_l1900 When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot........ I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No? Now counter those facts if you can...
As an Arsenal fan, I would like to say Arteta and Vieira who are both doing an exceptional job. However, I have to give to Xavi. The man came to Barcelona when the club was an absolute mess. They still are in big financial trouble but he's transformed Barcelona within months. Something Arteta has taken 2 years to achieve. If Vieira wins the fa cup, I d have to give it to him because that Palace team is seriously underwhelming in terms of quality as compared to Arsenal and specially Barcelona. Because of Xavi, quality players are willing to join Barcelona even on lower wages not to mention the free agents. They are briging in millions worth of talent to the club for free and can pay a serious part of their debt through the sale of fringe players. Barcelona will be a beast next year.
@@Snkrs-Jordan is that suppose to mean something in regards to being 5 points off 4th spot????? his argument got countered. And him saying he's an Arsenal fan is meaningless......
@@fredatei2503 it’s funny how before Xavi the players were either finished or too young but after him they’re quality or world class, even the signings he made in January aside from Torres were seen as has beens or not good enough. Let’s not act like Arteta hasn’t signed the likes of Ben White and Thomas Partey who were considered good players before joining, and most importantly Xavi had 4 months and Arteta had 3 years. Veira is fair point but there was more pressure on Xavi to succeed so I give it to him
Palace won against city and drew the 2nd game agakist them. They also won against tottenham and had arsenal until the last 2min where theh sxored an equalizer. U noob
Arteta been there for 3 years and arsenal are just showing major improvement , he should be last , Xavi and Viera brought instant change to their clubs . These guys are doing what arteta wanted to do in less than a year with less money spent .
Vieira then Xavi and then Arteta. Xavi had so many players coming in. Most if not all quality signings. Arteta took 3 seasons and still jury’s out. Vieira had almost 15 players released or sold. Working wonders with loan and academy players.
The fact is you cannot judge them as different circumstances but they have all done well and if pushed for an answer I’d say Vieira since he had a more difficult situation at Palace .
It's Xavi of course and it's pretty clear however, I love how Arteta has completely shut the haters up. Not only rhar but you never hear anyone giving him props for holding strong and actually proving them wrong.
@@francisxavio you want me to accept that coming from 20th in the league to a CL spot in the tougher league isn't more impressive than taking taking over at 9th spots with better players? Make it make sense you bias deluded bunch. Not on my clock....Arteta clearly bette
@@francisxavio this is going to be fun... coming from 20th in the league to a CL spot in the tougher league isn't more impressive than taking taking over at 9th spots with better players? Make it make sense you bias deluded bunch. Not on my clock....Arteta clearly bette
@@4th-Genna xavi hasn't spent a year so your logic is dumb Xavi first 4 months have been far better than arteta first 4 months He won a trophy in his first year Okay Xavi still has 8 months to do that
BS. When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot........ I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No? Now counter those facts if you can...
@@4thGenna. Also at this moment Xavi's Barca team is performing better but since none of these guys have reached their full potential and you never know one day their a big talent who was considered the next Messi Bojan Krkić and the next day their in some low level league i'll just wait for the future to see who becomes better
I realize nobody remembers that xavi had to cope with a young squad and injured players…they all had a transfer window and xavi had the worst financial situation of the 3 so add them all up
1 Viera 2 xavi 3 arteta Arteta and Xavi poured a lot of money in respectively and brought in a lot of new talent but viera has worked the same team and the team is great to watch and has the drive I see in the top 4 teams despite being a team that used to be clsoe to relegation zone before.
We haven’t payed a single dollar for any player.. all free transfers and torres money won’t be paid until the summer.. and that is in 4 instalments over 4 years..
Everything rise and fall under leadership Xavi is just phenomenal.... The same players played under koaman + Messi in the team but never had up to 5games unbeaten. With Xavi the world becomes the testimonial for what he has done... Arteta can be a good coach but hasn't gotten there yet and V has his own leadership ladder to climb.
It's called the 'honeymoon' period. Remember Ole at united, his first season (half of a season) was so good, they gave him the permanent job. Even arteta initially, without changing the team, managed to win the FA cup. When this honeymoon is over, the following season where the analysis is to be done.
The following season were planned. You're talking about 8th? That was perfect planning by Arteta, Edu and the whole family. That gives the opportunity to a very young coach, and a very young squad, to get familiarized with more practice sessions and reps. All of of knew that they were going going youth. There's no need to analyze anything there. People that have no foresight can be so clouded in their judgment. Arteta clear
The difference is few players in the world see the game like Xavi does. Ole was never a tactical genius or anything, Xavi is. Xavi is so much smarter than Ole, Arteta as well. He was assistant to Pep, who is the best manager in the world. So the cases of arteta and Xavi are way different compared to ole
@ ALI, u don't have to apologize. Yes he played with jukla but he brought the intensity and went back to Barca style whichb proved to be effective. Yes without winter transfer it might have taken longer but he started with right direction
In judging this one, do you guys take into consideration the factors that allow your team to strive and fight, example the players you already have their quality and so forth, coz for Arsenal it's a different scenario coz there's a difference in getting a team that's already quality proven without a manager and a deadwood of club that needs to be built right from the bottom up
Frank's right. Xavi at Barcelona is no-brainer. What this man has done to this club, which many had written off just a few months ago, is nothing short of extraordinary.
Ancelotti, wining the league reaching quarter final of the CL and still in it. In what was considered a run out team. Did this while losing two of the best center backs in recent years.
Vieira I think as done the better job Palace are not financially strong and he's in Fa Cup semis Xavi might end up being like Arteta he came won the FA Cup then straight 2 season didn't make it to europa league for Xavi next season then we can judge him
Arteta in Arsenal as a rookie manager and won an FA and community shield at the height of a pandemic, with a squad that was average. The other two coaches have had prior experience on the job
Xavi has done an amazing job so far, but this goes to Arteta. Arteta inherited a squad with lazy superstars on huge wages, a team that was very low on confidence and disconnected from the fans. He won two trophies with them in his first season and then got rid of all the rotten apples, signed 6 young players who all look to be top class, and has unified the team and connected the team back to the fan base. All of this while also tactically improving the squad and pushing for a top 4 place for the first time since Wenger left.
@@kevendepina That's what we thought when Arteta won 2 trophies. Barcelona are just on a high right now after switching managers and playing for Xavi. Once they come down to reality we can really tell what is going on.
Real Madrid are focused on attacking prowess when the game is controlled by midfield where barcelona will always beat them by always strengthening in that area first, that in the long term will give them the upper hand
I think its time for them to stop undermining other leagues from EPL, superstars like Eden and coutinho, small yet effective in epl are nowhere near that level in la liga. SuperStars like Salah and jota and silva and sterlings are rocking epl even tho they are small. They should stop saying this and that type of player wont succeed in Epl.
Xavi has done more in a shorter timeframe than Arteta, but the culture around arsenal was awful before he got in, and he struggled early but has come through the other side by relying on youth like Xavi has. But Viera has been awesome, taking a team that sits back and making them play an attractive style while being successful with it with fewer resources than either of the other two. I hope they can get in Europa at least for next season
ngl solid point but what Xavi is doing rn IS JUST INSANE, 12 games unbeaten around 6 of those scoring 4 goals and winning with barely any goals conceeded and beating Madrid 4-0 above all, im confident if Arsenal had to go face to face with the likes of Madrid it would go the complete other way around, so in that sense Arteta is clearly still UNPROVEN where Xavi has already proved himself in all aspects including beating Atletico and Madrid 4-2 and 4-0, which btw Xavi has only been here for four months but Arteta has been there for 2-3 YEARS my guy
Arteta doesn’t count in that conversation for me he is been there for what 3 years Viera for me because his squad isn’t as good as Barca or Arsenal Xavi is definitely looking good But Viera is the one for me
Barcelona was always one of the favorites to win La Liga, for the past 20 years, So for them to fall to 9th at the start of the season, and be in the position that they were ,was a shocker. Arsenal however have always been lingering around 4th to 8th, and they were always at that position ( apart from the first 3 games lost).
When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot........ I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No? Now counter those facts if you can...
@@4th-Genna sure, but he’s led them to where they belong, which is at the top. They just mauled RM 4-0 away. Sure it’s only one game but they’re on a 12 unbeaten run. They’re on track to becoming where they were supposed to be. Xavi took over from Koeman the same bunch of players but he turned them around. You wouldn’t say they’re levels above Arsenal when they’re playing under Koeman, no? I’d agree that they have a more talented side, but talents doesn’t guarantee you success if they don’t gel right.
Don't get me wrong , Barca is in incredible form, but they are in mountain's of debt. Just because Barca have had a incredible month, doesn't mean they are back to they're old self.
It is too early to judge Xavi an others based on just few games. But Arteta has done really good job in managing squad despite tight budget available at his disposal. He has built a really good team now.
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 get calculation of salary spent by Barcelona for many star players with outrageous fees paid.. then u will get better picture ... difference in spending unnecessarily and saving ... Barca already is on huge debt !!
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 an specially with already so many over rated stars at Barca team, let us see how they play for whole season.... just 2-3 games does not make them great team already..
Current Barça would slap Chelsea and a Clasico with nothing on the line is hardly a way to judge Real Madrid. Real Madrid don’t have half of their team out like last season, Chelsea’s plastic fans better get ready to be slapped
I always see your comments and hate over Chelsea. Gotta be asinine behavior at this point. Just enjoy the beautiful game and save yourself from dying due to hatred.
Xavi over Arteta? This Barcelona team has been consistently in the CL knockout rounds except this season while Arsenal were consistently finishing 8th...
At 07:08 Frank said xavi beat baracalona in classico? U mean they beat real Madrid don't get over excited lol jokes apart brilliant show this one always up to watch this 1
coming from 20th in the league to a CL spot in the tougher league is more impressive than taking taking over at 9th spot with better players. Arteta way way way better than Xavi
I’m seeing a lot people jumping Xavi bandwagon well Arteta did made impact on his first 4 to 5 months by winning cup competition and by disfunctional team and when he put his team together his doing bits. Compare the league Barcelona playing and the one Arsenal playing
doesnt matter how the leagues compare. The fact is the teams xavi are comfortably beating now, were beating us when we had koeman earlier in the season
I would say Arteta. Yes Xavi also did a fantastic job but bringing the 3 top PL players has helped Barca more. But coming back from an awful initial performance in PL to 4th place and challenging Chelsea for 3rd place is a great comeback. In Spain ATM aren't playing that good this season. After Suarez left Barca it started struggling as the strategy became like 'pass to Messi'. After Xavi took over he reorganized the group whose results we are witnessing now. The team was always strong but after some players left it became a problem for them which is now solved.
I think right now Barcelona can beat any team in the world...they thrashed napoli, athletico,real Madrid top teams in Europe.. I don't think arsenal are quite ready to do that
Can’t believe they are trying to compare all three. They have all one incredible jobs. Vieria was tipped to sacked first gets them to a FA cup semi final. Used a lot of younger players and made them mid table. People saying Arteta had three seasons is wrong. It is 2.5 seasons. His first half season won an FA Cup. Second was difficult for him to implement what he wanted, but has progressed from an out dated and dire squad to an team that is the youngest in the league to challenge for top four, where we were bottom at the start and everyone saying we’d get relegated. Xavi, has done amazing job roger Barca plying again. People say on a tight budget yet they splashed out over nearly 100m in January. Hasn’t got rid of players on high wages, increased the wages. Not saying he’s done a bad job but for me it has to be Big Pat or Arteta considering the criticism they both get and continue to get even when they are doing well.
Barca spent 40 million on Ferran Torres only and it was even before Xavi started the job, the rest are loans and free agents. Don't comment on things you know nothing about
@@joshlamingo1145 Torres was like 60m alone. what about Taroe was he free from Wolves? I know Auba was free but his wages aren’t exactly 100k per week. Don’t comment on things you forget.
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It’s always gonna be Xavi because of Barca’d standards. But props to the other two cause Arteta made it clear that he wasn’t gonna give up with the Arsenal team after a poor start and Vieira himself didn’t have such a good team for him to compete the way he’s competing now🤝
BS. I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No?
When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot.
Now counter those facts if you can....
Arteta clear. Arteta even helped Xavi by giving him PEA and Arsenal still flying. Arteta clear.
@@4thGenna. bro good God relax you're in every reply that doesn't say Arteta
@@c4e837 That's right
@@4thGenna. I gotta question do you think you'll be able to beat chelsea
@@c4e837 irrelevant question
Arteta has been there for 3 years. Xavi for 4 months. Yet one still made more progress than the other on a tighter budget. I rest my case
Edit: all the players for barca that ppl are calling "world class" now were called "finished" before xavi joined. I rest my case again
Arsenal's first 3 games zero goals scored, 9 conceded, bottom of the table, regelation form, to CL. Clearly Arteta.
Let's continue this case...
But i think we should take the talent pool into consideration too..
One guy had ceballos and the other has Pedri , Gavi .
So , can't compare tbh
@@4thGenna. to be fair arteta was the coach so i dont see your point
@@lilskiddils That is meaningless
@King Darwin the same world class players the previous coach had before Xavi?
Real hard between Xavi and Arteta, but I'd give it to Xavi, Arteta hasn't had a win this season against a big club like Liverpool, City, or Chelsea. Xavi's Barca beat Real Madrid 4-0 and turned this Barca team around in a span of a few months...
Winning vs big club? That's not the question. Arteta have done a better job. Let's fight all night. The question is who done a better job reviving the squad. That's clearly Arteta
Don't try compare this current real madrid team without benzema to Liverpool, City or Chelsea.
Barca have had a culture of winning though which Arsenal haven’t had in a while. Arsenal haven’t had the results against City or Liverpool but they have had good performances against them, more so City, that’s an experience and quality thing. That’s a good win for Barca but I don’t think Madrid are on City or Liverpool’s level right now.
@@4thGenna. this is the same team that was 12th in the league and we just beat the league leaders by 4 goals. Man has abumayang looking like r9 and "finished" busquets as the best cdm in la liga . Pique, garcia, and Araujo have all improved as well
@@4thGenna. arsenal were at home to liverpool and lost 0-2. barca went to the santiago bernabeau regardless of the fact benzema wasn't there and thrashed them 4-0. it shows that they have improved much more, because real madrid are much more experienced than barca and have OVERALL better players and barca won like it was nothing. arsenal are improving as well but gt give it to xavi.
Frank needs to NEVER EVER say the word “focus” on tv again
"Mofocus" xD
This notion that Xavi is suddenly doing well thanks to the January signings is unfair to the work he's done. We saw improved structure and game plan in literally his first game in charge with just one or two training sessions. Barcelona's overall game had massively improved under Xavi even before January. They have now becoming more goalscoring thanks to the signings but they were playing the barca way even before that
Demebele's improvement shows this. Also, Pedri is even better than before. Literally every barca players seems to be improving pretty fast.
Yeah it was all a process, they were already playing better but lacked the finishing that’s the main difference. That’s why We (Barca fans) were happy with the “moral victory” in the supercup el Clasico, because we knew that it was part of the process.
Barca becoming the best team in Europe before our eyes
Moreno is a clown. Delusional, biased and self obsessed pundit
@@jaylucas8352 oh stop it! They have struggled against a team in the relegation zone, struggled in quarterfinals in the Europa league, and been inconsistent. Are they on the rise? Yes. But to say they are becoming the best team is completely laughable
It’s definitely Xavi if you see where they started off this season with all the financial and sporting crisis. Normally, this season had been already written off after Messi left.
What’s shocking is how Xavi transformed this Barca side in a shorter time frame than we all expected. And when @wumpus said Xavi beat some big teams, i couldn’t agree more because he beat the big teams and beat them convincingly.
Arteta did great, but it’s a project he started before this season without pressure. Xavi came in mid season. It’s just unreal 💯💯💯💯
It's definitely Arteta. He had to overhaul the entire squad with a bunch of young players, in the most difficult league.
@@4thGenna. definitely xavi
@@isaaccruzpineda7851 definitely Arteta
Xavi is managing Barcelona with a ton of talent in the Midfield and Defense and went out and bought Aubameyang, Traore and Ferran Torres to fix his Forwards. He also did it in a much easier league.
Arteta had to work with limited budget in the first 2 seasons, which were hit by Covid and had to work with mediocre players in MF and Defense and still won the FA cup, beating City and Chelsea. Arteta all the way.
Lol who the fuvk is arteta compared to xavi football wise and managerial
After the Bayern loss on 7th December, there were rumours in the media that Xavi promised Laporta that he would take this team to the level of Bayern in one year.
Pep said that too in 2008, he said: Give me the job and I´ll win it all. One year later won all 6 titles
Barca is no where near Bayern.
@@tsimoi273 Wait for it. Bayern are overrated and wont win ucl this year
@@MrKaravaj Well, don't underestimate them because, in football, anything can happen.
@@MrKaravaj overrated Vs who ,,Bayern just be in training Vs Barca and almost EPL top 6
It's a tough call but maybe Xavi only due to him being there a few months. I'm glad Arsenal stuck with Arteta, they were bottom of the league but he's turned them right around. If I'm honest I had Viera and Palace as relegation candidates, nothing in his CV tells you he was the 'right man', but he's bought and coached well so credit where it's due.
"It's a tough call but maybe Xavi only due to him being there a few months"
1.) Xavi took over when Barca was literally 5 points from 4th spot. 2.) He took over with better quality players than that of Arteta's disposal.
3.) Arteta's season is more of a remarkable turnaround, especially combined with the separate league's
If you want to compare them after both have taken over after their respective first season began in which they took over during the season, Arteta adopted to what he and won the biggest cup trophy in England, beating Man City and Chelsea.
I would love to hear your counter for all these facts that tip the scale to Arteta, clearly.
@@4thGenna. Are you related to arteta or sum? Pls don’t reply something about this being irrelevant cause you say that every time you can’t argue against someone(I’m not trying to argue, just saying)
@@rapenguin6494 Arteta >> Xavi
@@4thGenna. not really tbh
@@rapenguin6494 really tbh
Is anyone going to mention how Arteta significantly helped Xavi's revamp by gifting him an ELITE goal scorer?!? That's gotta count for something, no? Does Arteta get a manage-on bonus, similar to a sell on?!? 😂😂😂
not really elite, auba is just a solid striker, and the only reason he's getting goals right now is because of how many chances Barca creates for him. He is doing the bare minimum scoring these goals. still a great signing tho just wish he was more deadly and hungry for goals
@@lamentspace Psshhh.... Not at the level of Lewey and Haaland, but far superior to a "solid striker.". He's not just "doing it at Barca.". He's done it everywhere. AND now he's doing it at Barca at the tail end of his career. If that's not elite....Psshhh...lol...
that just shows much worse arteta is than xavi for not being able to use auba to his full potential
@@maliktv8746 not remotely true. auba was on fire when arteta first arrived, so chill mate
@@maliktv8746 ^^^Yuuupp. He's always had discipline problems, and that didn't work being Captain of such a young Arsenal squad. But no matter what, put him on the field, he scores goals. Everywhere he goes, every league he plays in.
I would say Xavi has done the best job as he has only had 4 months in the job at Barca and turned things around massively.
In la Liga, can't you see how easy Auba score compare to scoring in EPL? With a much much better squads.
While Arteta inherit shitty squad, and the owner doesn't even want to spent the money. And then it's Barca, easier for them to attract better player even with downgrade on their wages.
@@Algojo lol stop that bs
Coutinho was flopping in la Liga
Yet see how he is performing in epl 💀
@Cyning but the players we signed are not Barcelona level and we signed 6 players with 150 million and we the youngest team in the toughest league
@@damifash758 see hazard bro, was his faith. Premier league isn’t hard, dominated by only two teams for 6 years now, Liverpool and man city. The rest is nonsense.
Viera underrated but it has to go to xavi!!!
Yh I agree Viera has the worst players. No disrespect to Palace players tho.
It has to go to Arteta
@@4thGenna. so deluded 🤣🤣🤣 clearly xavi
@@E3boss2003 only kids banter in grown up discussion. Clearly Arteta
@@4thGenna. grown up discussions absolute lack of maturity Arteta can do nothing wrong in ur eyes wake up Xavi has done more for barca
Each managers have done well individually with their team.
Xavi's Objective = Win every title possible.
Arteta's Objective = Fight for 4th place
Ridiculous you compare the David vs Golitah. Xavi as a coach is miles ahead like He was a player. Arteta is no his level.
@@m.n.s.s2825 Bantering? Stop the bantering.
@@m.n.s.s2825 lol
@@m.n.s.s2825 Arteta objective is to win the league too clown
@@agneat4596 what a joke> He cant win league even in his dream, Shut up plz
This show never fails to make me laugh, most entertaining sports show out there 🤣
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Palace are playing a more exciting brand of football but are in the same spot on the table as they always have been, arteta has been there for 3 seasons and they got much worse before they got better under him, xavi has stepped in and almost instantly made Barca play better (yes he has better players) but you’d have to give him the top spot out of the three.
If you're going to talk about 3 season then you're digging yourself into trouble because Arteta won a trophy and Xavi absolutely zero
@@4th-Genna dude you comment the same thing on everyone’s posts 😂, it’s ok you can relax mate I give in Arteta is clearly the most amazing manager in the world and Arsenal are the biggest and best club that’s ever existed, matter of fact Arteta is soo amazing Arsenal might get 4th this year!
@@andrew_l1900 Wonderful 😊
@@andrew_l1900 When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot........
I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No?
Now counter those facts if you can...
@@4th-Genna Xavi still has a chance to win Europa.
As an Arsenal fan, I would like to say Arteta and Vieira who are both doing an exceptional job. However, I have to give to Xavi. The man came to Barcelona when the club was an absolute mess. They still are in big financial trouble but he's transformed Barcelona within months. Something Arteta has taken 2 years to achieve. If Vieira wins the fa cup, I d have to give it to him because that Palace team is seriously underwhelming in terms of quality as compared to Arsenal and specially Barcelona. Because of Xavi, quality players are willing to join Barcelona even on lower wages not to mention the free agents. They are briging in millions worth of talent to the club for free and can pay a serious part of their debt through the sale of fringe players. Barcelona will be a beast next year.
When Xavi took over Barca was literally 5 points from 4th spot. I'm not having it...
@@4thGenna. they were still ninth in the table…
Finally a non delusional Arsenal fan. Those are hard to find nowadays
@@Snkrs-Jordan
is that suppose to mean something in regards to being 5 points off 4th spot?????
his argument got countered. And him saying he's an Arsenal fan is meaningless......
@@4thGenna. do points change the fact that they were in ninth place?
Probably the most fun and honest soccer show on TV. I love them, they make my day happy and I am always waiting for them to do the extra time.
I couldn't agree more. It's the only sports channel I enjoy
I wish they would call Messi by his real name: "Pessi"
Me too
Football mate
i feel like this is the only soccer show i see on youtube , i rarely see any other chanell pop up besides cbssports for UCL matches
"I want to congratulate Ale, with his blue watch.....blue pocket" 🤣🤣🤣 I love these guys.
Steve you bring so much laugher to this show you're really amazing ❤️😂😂
Stevie's stories are always awesome!
At least Xavi has beaten some big clubs...Can't say the same for the others.
He was gifted players immediately while other had to clear them useless players. Context always matters
@@fredatei2503 it’s funny how before Xavi the players were either finished or too young but after him they’re quality or world class, even the signings he made in January aside from Torres were seen as has beens or not good enough. Let’s not act like Arteta hasn’t signed the likes of Ben White and Thomas Partey who were considered good players before joining, and most importantly Xavi had 4 months and Arteta had 3 years. Veira is fair point but there was more pressure on Xavi to succeed so I give it to him
Palace won against city and drew the 2nd game agakist them. They also won against tottenham and had arsenal until the last 2min where theh sxored an equalizer. U noob
Hi 2021 babies.
Loved the way Frank said FOCUS - "f**kus 🤣"
Arteta been there for 3 years and arsenal are just showing major improvement , he should be last , Xavi and Viera brought instant change to their clubs . These guys are doing what arteta wanted to do in less than a year with less money spent .
Fully agree. But certain troll named 4th Genna would probably come for you
Arsenal's first 3 games zero goals scored, 9 conceded, bottom of the table, regelation form, to CL. Clearly Arteta.
@@4thGenna.that was still Arteta
@@RonaldKoeman420 again, what's your point?
Vieira then Xavi and then Arteta.
Xavi had so many players coming in. Most if not all quality signings. Arteta took 3 seasons and still jury’s out. Vieira had almost 15 players released or sold. Working wonders with loan and academy players.
The fact is you cannot judge them as different circumstances but they have all done well and if pushed for an answer I’d say Vieira since he had a more difficult situation at Palace .
The side talks make this so much more beautiful!
@4:58 Frank made me go "What did he just say?" lol.
It's Xavi of course and it's pretty clear however, I love how Arteta has completely shut the haters up. Not only rhar but you never hear anyone giving him props for holding strong and actually proving them wrong.
Arteta of course. Xavi took over Barca with the just being 5 points off 4th spot. He also inherited a better squad than Arteta. Arteta clear
@@4thGenna. No way.. Xavi changed Barcalona totally we can see that in barca games... Arteta is also good but xavi changed that in very less time
@@francisxavio you want me to accept that coming from 20th in the league to a CL spot in the tougher league isn't more impressive than taking taking over at 9th spots with better players? Make it make sense you bias deluded bunch. Not on my clock....Arteta clearly bette
@@4th-Genna They are 9th in a simple league with good players thats show how bad they are.... and Look at the time both coach take...xavi is better
@@francisxavio this is going to be fun...
coming from 20th in the league to a CL spot in the tougher league isn't more impressive than taking taking over at 9th spots with better players? Make it make sense you bias deluded bunch. Not on my clock....Arteta clearly bette
Each of them have done a huge job. I'll particularly praise Viera considering the squad he works with. But amazing work from Arteta and Xavi
Xavi has had the quickest impact. Lets see only time will tell
BS. The quickest impact is the man that won a trophy in his first year.
@@4th-Genna Aubameyang won you that trophy
@@nasadebizi6760 Is that suppose to mean something?
@@4th-Genna xavi hasn't spent a year so your logic is dumb
Xavi first 4 months have been far better than arteta first 4 months
He won a trophy in his first year
Okay
Xavi still has 8 months to do that
@@nasadebizi6760 so only Auba was on the pitch delusional kid
4:57 I thought he said at first "you mofos!" 😂but said "maybe you are more FOCUSED"
Great take from Stevie, it definitely has to be Xavi but Vieira hasn't been getting enough credit for what he has done this season.
BS.
When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot........
I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No?
Now counter those facts if you can...
@@4thGenna. Also at this moment Xavi's Barca team is performing better but since none of these guys have reached their full potential and you never know one day their a big talent who was considered the next Messi Bojan Krkić and the next day their in some low level league i'll just wait for the future to see who becomes better
@@RedRhythm_1 performing better? You play in La Liga.
@@4th-Genna Ok and? You're telling me Arsenal would beat Real Madrid 4-0? Or that they'd beat Napoli who are competing for the tittle of Serie A 4-2?
@@RedRhythm_1 oh wait this is a MU fan.....no wonder.... little kid get lost
Xavi shock the entire world of football, the news is everywhere 🔵🔴💪💪💪💪
I love how they have been wrong about xavi. Saying xavi won’t succeed. His rules are ridiculous.etc etc
I realize nobody remembers that xavi had to cope with a young squad and injured players…they all had a transfer window and xavi had the worst financial situation of the 3 so add them all up
I'm an arsenal fan and it's 100% Xavi. The Banter era only lasted 6 months for them.
The banter in the studio always kills me. These guys really get on like mates😂
Ale like a mom who never apologizes when they caught wrong in a situation. Buy Xavi an Expensive Pino then.
A clown he is
he was right though. those signings changed what he had to work with
Stevie Nicol is pure gold !
It's Xavi hands down. Turned thing's around in less than 6 months. Meanwhile Arteta been trying for the last 3 years.
It is true. Madrid did not beat PSG. But Paris beat themselves.
1 Viera
2 xavi
3 arteta
Arteta and Xavi poured a lot of money in respectively and brought in a lot of new talent but viera has worked the same team and the team is great to watch and has the drive I see in the top 4 teams despite being a team that used to be clsoe to relegation zone before.
Your entire comment suggest that you're absolutely clueless
Absolutely clueless
@@4th-Genna lol and you do t have better things to do then boot lick arteta
We haven’t payed a single dollar for any player.. all free transfers and torres money won’t be paid until the summer.. and that is in 4 instalments over 4 years..
@@joshlamingo1145 hopefully you got a clue today 3-0 to Crystal palace.
Everything rise and fall under leadership Xavi is just phenomenal.... The same players played under koaman + Messi in the team but never had up to 5games unbeaten. With Xavi the world becomes the testimonial for what he has done... Arteta can be a good coach but hasn't gotten there yet and V has his own leadership ladder to climb.
It's called the 'honeymoon' period. Remember Ole at united, his first season (half of a season) was so good, they gave him the permanent job. Even arteta initially, without changing the team, managed to win the FA cup. When this honeymoon is over, the following season where the analysis is to be done.
The following season were planned. You're talking about 8th? That was perfect planning by Arteta, Edu and the whole family. That gives the opportunity to a very young coach, and a very young squad, to get familiarized with more practice sessions and reps. All of of knew that they were going going youth. There's no need to analyze anything there. People that have no foresight can be so clouded in their judgment. Arteta clear
@@4thGenna. seriously asking
Are you unemployed ?
The difference is few players in the world see the game like Xavi does.
Ole was never a tactical genius or anything, Xavi is. Xavi is so much smarter than Ole, Arteta as well. He was assistant to Pep, who is the best manager in the world. So the cases of arteta and Xavi are way different compared to ole
@@RonaldKoeman420 I'm here to talk football don't ask me BS
@@RonaldKoeman420 He isn’t old enough to be employed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jean Luc-Picard at the end? There is a resemblance sometimes!
I love Frank.
More focus
The way Frank says focus 🤣
It took arteta 3 years to improve arsenal
took arteta 2 and a 1/2 years to take out the deadwood senseless.
@King Darwin Just one FA Cup!! That’s it!!
@@paritdoshi9836 A trophy is a trophy. Impressive to win an Fa Cup in your first managerial job
Without Aubameyang Arsenal wouldn’t of won the FA cup and Barcelona wouldn’t be where there are now
All barca players seem to be improving dramatically fast. You can't say the same about arsenal.
@ ALI, u don't have to apologize. Yes he played with jukla but he brought the intensity and went back to Barca style whichb proved to be effective. Yes without winter transfer it might have taken longer but he started with right direction
"oh i wasn't that far" got me 😂
In judging this one, do you guys take into consideration the factors that allow your team to strive and fight, example the players you already have their quality and so forth, coz for Arsenal it's a different scenario coz there's a difference in getting a team that's already quality proven without a manager and a deadwood of club that needs to be built right from the bottom up
Frank's right. Xavi at Barcelona is no-brainer. What this man has done to this club, which many had written off just a few months ago, is nothing short of extraordinary.
stevie, xavi came in mid season. The other two have been there for the whole season
Ancelotti, wining the league reaching quarter final of the CL and still in it. In what was considered a run out team. Did this while losing two of the best center backs in recent years.
Ehhh they weren’t as bad as the other teams and for Ramos atleast he was already old and injury prone
They don, t talk a bout Ancelotti here I think u are deaf man
Vieira I think as done the better job Palace are not financially strong and he's in Fa Cup semis Xavi might end up being like Arteta he came won the FA Cup then straight 2 season didn't make it to europa league for Xavi next season then we can judge him
I doubt that...
It's 4 goals per games , what do u expect? 8 goals per game 😂
Frank saying "focus" really caught me off guard 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Arteta in Arsenal as a rookie manager and won an FA and community shield at the height of a pandemic, with a squad that was average. The other two coaches have had prior experience on the job
Frank is funny man, I'm glad he's on this show
Xavi has done an amazing job so far, but this goes to Arteta. Arteta inherited a squad with lazy superstars on huge wages, a team that was very low on confidence and disconnected from the fans. He won two trophies with them in his first season and then got rid of all the rotten apples, signed 6 young players who all look to be top class, and has unified the team and connected the team back to the fan base. All of this while also tactically improving the squad and pushing for a top 4 place for the first time since Wenger left.
But it’s only been less then 6 months for xavi and he already fixed the team
Lame argument...months and xavi will be finishing second and win a trophy to show...
@@kevendepina That's what we thought when Arteta won 2 trophies. Barcelona are just on a high right now after switching managers and playing for Xavi. Once they come down to reality we can really tell what is going on.
Real Madrid are focused on attacking prowess when the game is controlled by midfield where barcelona will always beat them by always strengthening in that area first, that in the long term will give them the upper hand
This ❕❕❕
I think its time for them to stop undermining other leagues from EPL, superstars like Eden and coutinho, small yet effective in epl are nowhere near that level in la liga. SuperStars like Salah and jota and silva and sterlings are rocking epl even tho they are small. They should stop saying this and that type of player wont succeed in Epl.
When will we get 1080p videos. It's 2022 and it's ESPN.
Xavi has done more in a shorter timeframe than Arteta, but the culture around arsenal was awful before he got in, and he struggled early but has come through the other side by relying on youth like Xavi has. But Viera has been awesome, taking a team that sits back and making them play an attractive style while being successful with it with fewer resources than either of the other two. I hope they can get in Europa at least for next season
4:20 it is the food 😂
Arteta 💯 cause he’s playing best league and it’s hard to get in the top four these guys don’t know football
Deluded EPL fanboy 🤣🤣🤣
Arsenal wouldn’t make top 8in Spain
@@m.n.s.s2825 Best League ever only fools would think otherwise
ngl solid point but what Xavi is doing rn IS JUST INSANE, 12 games unbeaten around 6 of those scoring 4 goals and winning with barely any goals conceeded and beating Madrid 4-0 above all, im confident if Arsenal had to go face to face with the likes of Madrid it would go the complete other way around, so in that sense Arteta is clearly still UNPROVEN where Xavi has already proved himself in all aspects including beating Atletico and Madrid 4-2 and 4-0, which btw Xavi has only been here for four months but Arteta has been there for 2-3 YEARS my guy
@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 Only fools talk about La Liga
When frank says focus tho lol
Arteta doesn’t count in that conversation for me he is been there for what 3 years
Viera for me because his squad isn’t as good as Barca or Arsenal
Xavi is definitely looking good
But Viera is the one for me
Arteta doesn't count? Are you a troll? The first 3 years? So Arteta is clear then because he won a trophy since as you want to talk about 3 years ....
@@4thGenna. he simply said viera's team isn't as good as arteta's or is was he wrong?
@@4thGenna. you are the actual troll here, spewing dirrahoea under every comment that doesn't declare arteta as the best lmao. Stop crying.
Xavi 👍
They play fantastic fast modern football.
Barcelona was always one of the favorites to win La Liga, for the past 20 years, So for them to fall to 9th at the start of the season, and be in the position that they were ,was a shocker.
Arsenal however have always been lingering around 4th to 8th, and they were always at that position ( apart from the first 3 games lost).
When Xavi took over, Barca was literally 5 points off 4th spot........
I'm pretty sure you're definitely convinced that Xaxi took over a squad of players that are levels above Arsenal players. No?
Now counter those facts if you can...
@@4th-Genna sure, but he’s led them to where they belong, which is at the top. They just mauled RM 4-0 away. Sure it’s only one game but they’re on a 12 unbeaten run.
They’re on track to becoming where they were supposed to be.
Xavi took over from Koeman the same bunch of players but he turned them around. You wouldn’t say they’re levels above Arsenal when they’re playing under Koeman, no?
I’d agree that they have a more talented side, but talents doesn’t guarantee you success if they don’t gel right.
@@Footie4ever I know all of that. Arteta have done the better job. End of
Dan is so underrated
Xavi. Barca is a mess. Arteta have enough time
*was
@@joashwalters2777 oh, right
@@joashwalters2777 they still are a mess 🤣
Don't get me wrong , Barca is in incredible form, but they are in mountain's of debt.
Just because Barca have had a incredible month, doesn't mean they are back to they're old self.
Let's give it a few months, see if they can keep it up, and improve!
It is too early to judge Xavi an others based on just few games. But Arteta has done really good job in managing squad despite tight budget available at his disposal. He has built a really good team now.
Tight budget lol he has outspent Klopp
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 get calculation of salary spent by Barcelona for many star players with outrageous fees paid.. then u will get better picture ... difference in spending unnecessarily and saving ... Barca already is on huge debt !!
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 an specially with already so many over rated stars at Barca team, let us see how they play for whole season.... just 2-3 games does not make them great team already..
So so poor ball knowledge :(
Current Barça would slap Chelsea and a Clasico with nothing on the line is hardly a way to judge Real Madrid. Real Madrid don’t have half of their team out like last season, Chelsea’s plastic fans better get ready to be slapped
🤣🤣🤣🤣 half Thea team
I always see your comments and hate over Chelsea. Gotta be asinine behavior at this point. Just enjoy the beautiful game and save yourself from dying due to hatred.
Let Xavi try to play total football with a team that has James Tomkins, James McArthur, Will Hughes and Christian Benteke.
3 years
Who the f*** is Arteta?! An overrated mediocre coach who blames everything and everyone when his time loses.
Lol.
all have done well
Xavi over Arteta? This Barcelona team has been consistently in the CL knockout rounds except this season while Arsenal were consistently finishing 8th...
Would’ve loved to see hazard and Ziyech two dynamos running the wings at the bridge…
Stevie said Frank Connery 🤣💀
At 07:08 Frank said xavi beat baracalona in classico? U mean they beat real Madrid don't get over excited lol jokes apart brilliant show this one always up to watch this 1
4:58 ahhah Frank sounds like he said more F***ers
I second that lol
It depends on who inherited a bad squad, arteta has done a great job, with a cup in the cabin by the way
Image if Chelsea faces Liverpool in the UCL final and the FA Cup finals
🤣 you guys are so fun to watch ❤️❤️
ESPN has the best pundits
I want Frank Connery's signature!!
As an Arsenal fan I would say Xavi. The turnaround has been so rapid, and all the players brought in have performed.
coming from 20th in the league to a CL spot in the tougher league is more impressive than taking taking over at 9th spot with better players. Arteta way way way better than Xavi
@@4th-Genna Lmao an average coach got carried by Pep.
Eddie Howe- Considering the shambles he inherited
4:58 😂😂 wait what
Xavi doing great job in Barça
Bravo Xavi 👏👏👏
Why aren’t we talking about Stevie’s prediction Real Madrid to win?
Italy or Portugal? Portugal. Period!
I’m seeing a lot people jumping Xavi bandwagon well Arteta did made impact on his first 4 to 5 months by winning cup competition and by disfunctional team and when he put his team together his doing bits. Compare the league Barcelona playing and the one Arsenal playing
doesnt matter how the leagues compare. The fact is the teams xavi are comfortably beating now, were beating us when we had koeman earlier in the season
Arteta is managing a club in a mediocre league
Can arsenal trash real, atletico, valencia and Napoli by 4 goals in a spand of 2 months?
I would say Arteta. Yes Xavi also did a fantastic job but bringing the 3 top PL players has helped Barca more. But coming back from an awful initial performance in PL to 4th place and challenging Chelsea for 3rd place is a great comeback. In Spain ATM aren't playing that good this season. After Suarez left Barca it started struggling as the strategy became like 'pass to Messi'. After Xavi took over he reorganized the group whose results we are witnessing now. The team was always strong but after some players left it became a problem for them which is now solved.
DEMAND AN APOLOGY ALE MORENO!
Frank is soo funny 😂
Barca were in a title race until the last game last season. Hardly miracle work.
Xavi of course.. I hope Barca and Arsenal face each other in the ucl next year so that either auba or arteta can make a statement heh
I think right now Barcelona can beat any team in the world...they thrashed napoli, athletico,real Madrid top teams in Europe.. I don't think arsenal are quite ready to do that
Where is Ancelotti in the conversation
Can’t believe they are trying to compare all three. They have all one incredible jobs. Vieria was tipped to sacked first gets them to a FA cup semi final. Used a lot of younger players and made them mid table.
People saying Arteta had three seasons is wrong. It is 2.5 seasons. His first half season won an FA Cup. Second was difficult for him to implement what he wanted, but has progressed from an out dated and dire squad to an team that is the youngest in the league to challenge for top four, where we were bottom at the start and everyone saying we’d get relegated.
Xavi, has done amazing job roger Barca plying again. People say on a tight budget yet they splashed out over nearly 100m in January. Hasn’t got rid of players on high wages, increased the wages. Not saying he’s done a bad job but for me it has to be Big Pat or Arteta considering the criticism they both get and continue to get even when they are doing well.
Barca spent 40 million on Ferran Torres only and it was even before Xavi started the job, the rest are loans and free agents. Don't comment on things you know nothing about
@@joshlamingo1145 Torres was like 60m alone. what about Taroe was he free from Wolves? I know Auba was free but his wages aren’t exactly 100k per week. Don’t comment on things you forget.