@@sharangcoolit’s really not that hard to understand lol gohan literally never wanted to fight he just had to due to circumstances and his hidden potential due to being a half saiyan & human. his dream was to become a great scholar and he never thirsted for battle. this is everything he said when he was a child and even when he was fighting cell. so why in times of peace wouldn’t he go achieve his dreams and get the life that he wanted.
@@deondreh6661 it's crazy that people really don't get that. Like it's explained in the series. Piccolo literally says it during the cell fight and we see how gohan reacts to having to fight, study and what he really likes.
@@deondreh6661 Plus this episode was to show that Trunks have been fighting way too long and lost too much that he hasn't got any hope left or even understands happiness anymore. He's constantly thinking about the worst case and Gohan reminded him that there's still a chance
BRO, I'm STILL salty about they way people treat Gohan. He ain't Goku, never was. He was never interested in fighting as anything more than a means to an end - defending his loved ones and maintaining peace. Of course he'd want to ease off from it during extended periods of peace, especially when his dad and Vegeta have gone leagues above his power level. When he's needed, he steps up. When he's not, let him live his freaking life.
I think a lot of people skip over the fact that despite Gohan being so different than his future counterpart, Trunks still treats him as his master and respectfully bows to him before leaving.
I think most people overlook the fact that it's been years since the cell saga, and Gohan is at peace and at a different state of kind. The kid that fought cell didn't have much of a choice in having to fight (same as future gohan) but present Gohan doesn't have that struggle. He is doing what he loved. Also trunks doesn't telegraph or look like he is in trouble, specially with how he carried himself with Gohan. For all they know he is just stopping by and catching up.
I think there's a secondary hidden message in this episode that really goes over people's head regardless if people want to embrace it or not. There's this wild assumption by fans that "Chi chi made Gohan what he is now" when that's not exactly true.... Before all the training with Piccolo and everything else, Gohan truly did want to become a scholar. If anything Chichi was being supportive because life is tough. Most of the time she freaks out a lot is mainly because of the crazy stuff they deal with. The future Gohan most fans worship so dearly, despite being a total badass is from a torn future, where he had no choice but to fight and he died a dog's death alone in the rain as a result. What Trunks is seeing is Gohan's dream being fully realized. He's happy. It's essentially the writers saying *"Look guys.... This is Gohan, he will train to fight here and there, but unlike Goku and Vegeta who fight because it's within their instinctual urge battle..... Gohan does it to protect his family. He doesn't thirst for battle or competition. What you see in this episode is the very thing that makes him the happiest person in the world."* And even though we will see Gohan fight in the future, we should understand the essence of what Gohan is. he's not a saiyan, he's more "half human" and with those human traits he has his own aspirations in life. Gohan will always fight, but we got to learn to embrace this reality
I like to see that there are some people in this world who analyse the purposes of some animes and don't watch blindly just for entertainment. Your words are so true my friend. And Trunks's world is a way for the writer to show us that sometimes you don't like your life because something bad happened in it, but it could be so much worse. Proof of Gohan being a total badass, is the fact that he chooses to be a nice human being. Even while fighting Cell, he didn't want to hurt him. It took the life of C16 to make Gohan lose his mind and let his power take control. He is the best written character inside a world that doesn't make sense, he's the most relatable character in DB universe. Imagine the fact that this gentle guy playing with his daughter will reach SSJB level by training for a few days and using only his mystic technique, no boost or training with the gods or ritual needed for him to reach Goku and Vegeta's level... Plus, the existence of future Trunks makes everything better. Gohan is not a fighter, he is a protector. Which is why he died fighting in Trunks dimension but is alive protecting his people in this dimension
Smh. They’re not real Gohan fans. He’s always wanted to be a scholar. He ONLY fought WHEN HE HAD TO. They need to go back and watch that Namek arc and watch him fight against the Ginyu Force. Then tell me you’d still wanna fight tops
@@ttravis10 thing is that its been hinted and mentioned MANY TIMES during the anime especially during the Cell saga that Gohan does not like fighting and I remember the first episode of DBZ when goku introduced gohan to the crew bulma asked what does he want to be when he grows up and he said he wants to be an orthopedist. This was the english dub but that episode came out in the early to mid 1990s 20 YEARS before super. However, if people dont like his adult character they have a right to voice their displeasure.
But anime fans don't care they only wanna see blind fury. God forbid not every character be exactly like Goku and Vegeta. If all Gohan did was train, he'd just be another Goku and the "fans" would just complain about Gohan just following his dad instead of being his own character. Can't win these days.
If anything Trunks is relieved Gohan turned out how he turned out, Trunks watched him fight and struggle everyday to protect him and pretty much everyone else left in his Timeline and he watched him die. As he said “ I’ve never seen Gohan smile like this “ meaning Gohan has probably never had a day of peace in his timeline, Trunks couldn’t careless about his power he’s just glad he’s alive and happy.
I honestly hate how almost unjustly hate Gohan for persuing the dream that he wanted for himself, its not that chi chi forced him, at the beginning of Z, u could see he wanted to be a scholar, even Goku says that after they beat cell he could be a scholar like he dreamt of. Gohan will only train or fight when its necessary, he's half human, meaning he wont seek out battle. And the thing is goku was disappointed that he hadn't kept up his training but he also recognizes that his kid doesn't have to be him, he has his own aspirations. And Gohan didnt go "soft ", this is how his personality always was, similarly to Goku, he reacts appropriately to the situation, seeing him be happy with his family shouldn't be something that pisses us off, otherwise were not much different to how the fandom sees ChiChi
thats what someone who cares about someone does. He though maybe trunks might ask Gohan for help and Piccolo is like dont even bother Gohan is a shell of his former self. Why fluff it up?
As a Gohan Stan I understand your pain… however… if you truly know Gohan you’d know he’s happier now than he’s ever been. For those still upset he never continued to progress as a fighter after Cell and after Buu need to go back and watch the first 75% of Z from the fight against Raditz and Nappa and Vegeta, then against The Ginyu Force and Frieza.. then against Cell. And tell me you’d wanna fight still too. Smh.
Straight facts, this what fans won’t accept they just wanna see Gohan from the Cell Saga, but if they really knew Gohan they would know this is always what he wanted and trunks knew it too, Trunks watched Gohan fight and struggle everyday to protect him and then he died so seeing him in this timeline happy and alive was a huge relief for him.
This episode reminds me of the deleted scenes of "The Terminator (1984)", the scene where Sarah and Reese have an altercation in broad daylight and Reese breaks down, Future Trunks seeing Gohan's happy life and comparing it to his dystopian life harkens to that. Future Trunks may look like kid John Connor from T2, but he is the Kyle Reese of Dragon Ball.
That actor, James Marsters, has been in a lot of things, but he's probably most famous for playing Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He's also been a Dragon Ball fan for a long time, and even played Piccolo in the unfortunate live-action adaptation, Dragon Ball Evolution, and was just as disappointed as everyone else with how it turned out. He voiced Zamasu for free because he felt he had to give back to the fans after the movie.
The thing is, Gohan doesn’t have the same connection towards Trunks as Trunks does with Gohan unfortunately. So I understand why Gohan wouldn’t think to ask those questions.
Future Trunks had mixed feelings about present Gohan. At first he was a bit disappointed that Gohan wasn't the same powerful warrior who defeated Cell, but felt very happy for Gohan for starting his own family & building a happy prosperous life free of wars.
These comments are brutal lol I love it. I wish other reactors would also realize the importance of Gohan growth. They're so blinded by Shonen fanaticism they wanna see fights but they don't realize Gohan grew to be a great man who realized his dreams and found a family. That's a win in any book
People who doesn't understand Gohan really annoys me. Ever since he was a kid Gohan did not like fighting or violence. He was a shy and smart little kid. He loves learning and that's why Chi Chi wanted him to focus on his studies. But he was also a great fighter and has the potential to be a greatest fighter they have and that's why Goku and Piccolo pushed him to fight. Gohan never got a choice since he had to step up and get stronger cause of all the enemies they had to face. Gohan in super did get his wish come true, he wanted to focus on his studies and now his family too. He loves his job and his wife and child, he slacked on his training cause he believed that Goku and Vegita will always be there to protect everyone and he didn't have to train so much any more. So for anyone who says that Chi Chi got her wish of Gohan continuing with his studies is wrong, cause that's what Gohan truly loved as well. If you've watched the last DBS Super Heroes movie, Gohan was so happy nerding out about his research about ants that glow, even calling them Saiyants. But at that time he continued with his training and was balancing his job, family and training again. Which was the best out come of Gohan. Also being able to unlock a new form. People need to understand Gohan as a character instead of calling his parents bad. Cause Chi Chi and Goku are great parents.
When I hear Gohan playing with his daughter being called “cringy” or the softness of Gohan’s parenthood being criticized…I REALLY just can’t understand this fandom.
This is a very good episode. Gohan’s living the life he always wanted. Nothing tough to watch. Made trunks realize what he’s fighting for! n reawakened his motivation.
Only Piccolo and Goku should know that Gohan was Future Trunks' master based on what we've seen onscreen. Trunks told Goku and Piccolo overheard him with his crazy hearing.
I’m glad to see Future Trunks in a somewhat relaxed state while in the past, catching up with his friends and family. The threat is still out there, but at least Future Trunks can appreciate the brighter side for a bit.
I find it interesting for Future Trunks to see the characters from post Majin Buu era and what his reaction were. Like seeing Gohan settling down with his wife child. Not to mention his reaction on seeing the Great Saiyaman. And a nice small Dragon Ball GT reference detail between Trunks and Baby Pan. As for the question for Gohan getting back to the fight, the Tournament of Power is the answer. Patience😎
The reason why Bulma and Frieza sound different to Madison is because she hasnt seen the Z Kai version of Dbz. Which is even better and close to the original manga. They tried to get the voices of frieza more akin to his Japanese va. Same with Bulma. Thats why they sound different.
That taepisodr takes kinda karenish. Like Gohan is an incredible busy person at thi stage. He welcomed an old friend like you would welcome someone you haven't seen in forever. They all got distracted reminiscing about the past to talk about the future. By the time Trunks says his goodbyes they simply were left with questions. Courtesy is welcoming someone into your house not prying into the reasons for visiting you. As a fact asking someone "what brings you here?" Not only is rude is definitely not a way to welcome a friend.
Baris i understand that you disappointed about gohan in this arc but In my opinion bro I think trunks did the right thing not to tell or bring gohan in the future because he realize that gohan has a happy normal life and he becomes a family man compared to futuregohan’s life that he never had was real tragic for him after dealing with the struggle years of fighting androids and sacrificing his own life for trunks as the last hope and another reason he didn’t want to bring him or get him involve in the future because trunks realized that he’s not strong enough to fight goku black and he didn’t want to see his master counterpart die again and he doesn’t want history repeating itself
I get what Trunks means about doing nothing, but at the same time it is a Time Machine my dude. You will literally get there at the exact same second even if you left in a month.
Dude Zamasu! I fricken LOVE god complex characters. Zamasu is one of my favorite DB villains. Can’t for y’all to see his development and downward spiral. EDIT: I don’t have a problem with Gohan at all in this episode. These are times of peace. And it’s not like Trunks told him what was happening like he did back then. So how’s he supposed to know that this/that/and the third is going on? Also, if you saw on old friend YEARS later are you really just gonna talk about “here’s why everything where I’m at sucks”? I don’t think so, I know I wouldn’t.
@@DS123-gb8tfwhen kami pr piccolo was killed. They revived them with namekien dragon balls. So with kami alive earths dragon balls where available so they used it to revive all ppl killed by frieza.
They didn't even know the location of New Namek in the original timeline. If it wasn't for King Kai and Goku's Instant Transmission then they wouldn't have found Dende
@@ibtihazzjinan4780 I’m saying i don’t think the present dragon balls would work to fix future trunk’s timeline, since in trunk’s time piccolo/Kami isn’t alive so no earth dragon balls only the ones on namek
I miss Trunks with purple hair and big muscles. I liked that fit he used too when he finished off 17 and 18 in his timeline with that drip black track suit and gold boots
Love's Trunks flashback here and one thing I thought was very telling was that Piccolo and Krillin were both shocked that Gohan from his time was the one that trained him. Because they seen Gohan let himself go they were shocked that Trunks master was Gohan from the future. Especially Krillin you can hear it in his voice you mean you trained you He did the background when trunks explained he was Fearless. I think to make that line even more epic is he was Fearless a true Saiyan warrior. Future Gohan is #1 on my book not the strongest we all know that but the best.
Every Dragonball fan felt or feels like future Trunks with Gohan. Yeah they should have asked him why he is back. It didn't cross there minds. The opposite comparison of two timelines, it's crazy and heartbreaking.
I sometimes feel Future Trunks should have trained with the real Goku to prepare to fight Goku Black. If Goku Black is everything the real Goku is, Future Trunks should train with the real Goku to get an idea on how to better deal with Goku Black
You forget something very important.. it's a detail but, Goku is dead in Trunks dimension before even Cell appeared lol which is why future Gohan was his mater and died fighting the androids. It took Trunks to come back to the present, kill Cell, go back to his timeline and fight the androids to get rid of them. Goku black came to their world way after Goku's death. Since this episode is posted I assume they already watched the next episodes so I can tell you exactly whats going on : Goku black is not from Trunks timeline. Which is why he was completely unexpected and why nobody can stop him in Trunks world because nobody is as strong as that Goku
the only one left in Trunks timeline (from the Saiyans) is Trunks himself. everybody died, Piccolo doesn't exist so there is no Kami therefore there are no dragon balls. And since they were living in peace after the death of the androids and before the coming of Goku black, Trunks didn't evolve that much from the time he was fighting Cell. He reached SSJ2 by himself which is a feature by itself, since there was no opponent to go against that required that strength from him, it's already an accomplishment for Trunks to have reached SSJ2 without any purpose, just dedication. Not even Goku did it, he spent huge amounts of time training in heaven to reach SSJ2 and SSJ3. Anyway, just keep watching the episodes, you'll see that future Trunks is a GIGACHAD
@@Medsuo_RetroWow you really typed all that for nothing 😂. Why would he be talking about his timelines Goku?? He is literally in the past he's obviously referring to the Goku we know.
As you can see in this timeline Goku is visiting the 10th universe so obviously he cannot be at two places at the same time :) I thought you'd come to this conclusion by the end of the episode, his father is still there tho and is way much stronger than Goku in SSJ3 ;) @@joshualowe959
Normally I love y'all reactions but y'all were talking WAY TOO MUCH in this video, you both inadvertently ended up ruining an otherwise touching episode. Like do ya'll understand the whole reason why Trunks went into the past in the first place? His future still ended up the same: The Z-warriors are still dead, the Dragon Balls don't exist, and the Androids were still alive with the threat of Cell still out there. That's why when he came back the 2nd time he was all shocked and confused because he didn't know that he created a branch timeline making his trip meaningless. So why would he stay and help? Simple...BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT GOKU AND THEM TO GO THROUGH WHAT HE DID! Y'all complaining about and agreeing with Trunks that people are way too laid back and are not on high alert 24/7 compared to his timeline, but why is that a bad thing? Isn't that what Trunks should be fighting for instead of being jealous of not having it good and being far weaker than Goku and Vegeta? This episode is meant to show that Trunks has been fighting way too long that he lost sight of the endgoal. That's why he was confused about Gohan not fighting anymore, cause he thought Goku and them were going to keep on being on the verge of annihilation after the Androids which in turn they have, but never would he thought they would experience long periods of peace which Trunks never had in his timeline. His Gohan was always fighting for his life until his death so of course it would be weird seeing a version of him that lives a quiet and happy life. Why the fuck would he ever hope for alternative Gohan to help fight Black when he saw firsthand of Goku easily surpassing that power when they sparred and why would Gohan drop all of his shit and leave his family to help Trunks especially when his sudden appearance caught everyone off guard? I thought y'all hated whenever Goku leaves Chi Chi and Goten to train? Gohan never wanted to be a fighter. Piccolo forced him, he had to fight to survive on Namek, Goku forced him to fight Cell, Videl blackmailed him to enter the World Tournament, and the Supreme Kai dragged him into the Buu mess. The kid almost died a dozen times before his 18th birthday and has a wife and kid that he actually SHOWS AFFECTION TO outside of "I'm the protector" and people still blame Chi Chi for him not wanting to be like Goku smfh
We love great saiyaman in this house. I would truly recommend you guys just kai because details are glossed over the original version didn't cover. Especially pertaining to Gohan's character
It's funny how the dub recons future Gohan calling the Androids as bastards. The old dub would be been like "those gosh darn meanies". And I don't get the issue with the dichotomy between Trunk's world and the current peaceful world. The point is that peace like that is why Trunks is fighting and his motivation for a better world. And this world achieved it after the Androids, Cell, and Buu.
Nah Trunks never told anybody that Gohan was his mentor in DBZ . He probably felt that saying too much might mess up the timeline even more . This episode in Super is the first time he tells anybody that Gohan was his mentor . Also Gohan has already started training with Piccolo . Both of you watched that episode already when he asked piccolo to start training him again because he wasnt strong enough to fight against Frieza when he came back to life in the earlier episodes . Just keep in mind Gohan is doing a lot of off screen training rn . Like it showed him training with Piccolo right before the Universe 6 and Universe 7 tournament when Goku and Vegeta were recruiting fighters to join .
@@footballfan283 Yes but Trunks doesn't know that so Piccolo is just playing along for the sake of conversation. Okay he's telling us things, just let him repeat the parts I know because he'll probably elaborate.
To be fair if i was gohan i would probably do the same specially after i was born i had to go through so much without even having a childhood life. Even though as a kid i was admire and had people call me cool and the strongest. So yha i see 50/50 but i'm surprised gohan could kept he's saiyan lineage in tact.
@@Raveesha Part of this is the wishwashy writing. In Buu saga, its fine that he got soft. It makes sense. Then he returns to form, fulfills his potential, and still loses. Okay still fine, but he learned his lesson you would think. Frieza comes back. Gohan says I got to start training like its a wake up call. so we are retreading same ground Then he isn't up to par for the Universe 6 and 7 Tournament despite Krillin growing hair in the anime, but in the manga it happens one after the other. This is fine because he's working and training on the side. He's just not there yet right? Now this is even further along and he still isn't showing signs of training yet. Its not until later that it pays off with him at least being top 5 on his team and being stronger than ever. Then for some reason he's regressed again by Super Hero and has time return to form again. So they are reusing the same story beats and its frustrating. Its like they know certain fans want him to develop in one direction, then yank that from them to rinse and repeat. Even if you aren't a Gohan fanboy, its still frustrating to see a character not having a direction he wants to stay doing. Why bring the guy back into the fold if he's not staying. Also, all the guy has to do these days is hop in the time chamber with now its infinite time limit for a 10 minutes of real world time a couple times a week to keep up his training enough to maintain Super Buu level strength. He'd have to sacrifice less time with his family than you or I have to spend on exercise to stay healthy. Take Trunks and Goten in there. Even when Goku was getting soft, he was never wrecked by a villain just because he was weaker than he previously was from not training at all.
Judging by your eyes I believe you caught yourself in a slip up mentioning that black has Goku’s body. You gave her an unintentional clue. Judging by her eyes she caught the clue. Both of you tried to play it off though.
not the first time he's done that. one of the reasons i don't like watching reactors react to something they've already seen but bring someone on who hasn't and then won't shut up at every scene
this is nice but every once in a while,i would like to see u DOUBLE UP and do 2 EPISODES back to back,because the storyline builds and it,s should a BUZZKILL we have to wait 2 DAYS BEFORE you upload a new one, besides we got some bonafide cliffhangers coming up soon,just hope u guys consider it
@@katchin1523 Also in Super Hero, she just learned how to fly which is right before End of Z. Now going by anime, we have to assume she forgot how because she lost her baby memories.
VEGETA HAS THE BEST CHARACTER DEVEOPLMENT IN ANY ANIME CHANGE MY MIND, Also I don't contradict Baris a lot but Vegeta is finding motivation to destroy Goku black not present Goku, cause he destroyed his entire family in the future and in the words of Vegeta "Looks like that clown"
Gohan is so casual about everything....its like he expects his father and vegeta to save the world everytime...you don't get the peaceful life served on a platter, you have to earn it
I seriously hate Adult Gohan only because I absolutely loved him as a kid. He peaked at Cell and was the most bad azz character and yes I get it he never liked fighting and he ended up being a successful intelligent man but hes so damn lame. Also you brought up a good point, not once did Gohan sense the need to ask what brings Trunks back, is it just to visit is it because of something else? Nope, he was so caught up being in his happy family and perfect life bubble that it never crossed his mind but like Trunks said, all that power he sensed in him during cell, he felt absolutely nothing from him here. The sad thing is, if Gohan ever decided to actually train seriously, he still has the highest potential out of any character in the DB/Z/GT/Super/Movies universe his potential is literally limitless.
Maybe Gohan thought Trunks was just visiting. Trunks didn't seem troubled when he visited Gohan. Even if Gohan did ask, he wouldn't be in any shape for Black
@@gamesmoney1025 I completely understand that but my point is a rational person would ask. Bulma, Krillin, Piccolo, etc. would ask whats up? All Gohan said was basically HEY! Lets hang out! meet my family and lets eat! He was already warned Gohan wasnt the same Gohan from cell so trunks knew he was in no shape for black especially since he already sensed nothing in him when he first saw him compared to the last time he saw him. Either way it just came out as kind of self centered in a way like he didnt even ask did you meet the rest of the crew? did you know my dad is back? nothing. It was basically lets hang out and see my perfect life oh the day is done we should do this again! I get it though, Gohan is so far removed from the fighting scene that hes legitimately has the current thought capacity of a normal human but still such a shame.
@@israymervalentin-arias6313You to remember Gohan half saiyan he doesn't live everyday for fighting like his dad and Vegeta he hates fighting he just didn't hqve any choice then nothing happened for 7 years after cell so he ain't gonna have any reason to train just live life taking care of his mother and little brither then after Buu he married Videl start his career and had Pan
Everybody defending Gohan is missing the point. Yes sure he accomplished his dream but he used to enjoy training too. Him using goku and Vegeta as an excuse all the time is a lazy excuse. He can more than make the time to train but hes undisciplined but lets one thing overtake everything.
I don't think "having a successful career and raising a family" is the sign of someone undisciplined, and dismissing them as "one thing" shows an extremely narrow perspective. Fighting isn't a priority for Gohan like it is for Goku, and the kind of training that Goku and Vegeta do is essentially a full-time effort, not the kind of thing that can fit in easily around a demanding career and caring for his family - the things that Goku neglects.
@@N0-1_H3r3 I'm talking about a few quick training that Gohan could've done to at least maintain his power rather than being weaker than his cell games self when it's about to be the TOP
He was never a fighter, never enjoyed it and only fought when he absolutely had to. That was shown throughout all of Z and super. No one is missing the point except those who keep saying how much of a let down he became. It's not some mystery that he decided to give up fighting to follow his dreams and raise a family. That was hinted at the start of z with raditz and piccolo even said as much during the cell games.
How is he a jerk? Lol obviously trunks didn't want to bring it up to him and Gohan just loved the company so he didn't think to ask. When you have a friend visit you after a long time, you don't question why they're there, you're just happy to see them
@@lordkai59 it's ok im with you. But that's in our real world. People come to visit because they want to see you again. What I meant was that Gohan used to be serious and a strong Man. Remember when he fought buu as mistic gohan. We was so different. Well after this scene with trunks we did well as the captain of the universe 7 at the tournament of powers.. cheers .
This Super episode really reveals which people truly understand Gohan's character and which ones didn't.
sir, please do elaborate
@@sharangcoolit’s really not that hard to understand lol gohan literally never wanted to fight he just had to due to circumstances and his hidden potential due to being a half saiyan & human. his dream was to become a great scholar and he never thirsted for battle. this is everything he said when he was a child and even when he was fighting cell. so why in times of peace wouldn’t he go achieve his dreams and get the life that he wanted.
@@deondreh6661 it's crazy that people really don't get that. Like it's explained in the series. Piccolo literally says it during the cell fight and we see how gohan reacts to having to fight, study and what he really likes.
@@deondreh6661 Plus this episode was to show that Trunks have been fighting way too long and lost too much that he hasn't got any hope left or even understands happiness anymore. He's constantly thinking about the worst case and Gohan reminded him that there's still a chance
BRO, I'm STILL salty about they way people treat Gohan. He ain't Goku, never was. He was never interested in fighting as anything more than a means to an end - defending his loved ones and maintaining peace. Of course he'd want to ease off from it during extended periods of peace, especially when his dad and Vegeta have gone leagues above his power level.
When he's needed, he steps up. When he's not, let him live his freaking life.
I think a lot of people skip over the fact that despite Gohan being so different than his future counterpart, Trunks still treats him as his master and respectfully bows to him before leaving.
Gohan won at life. That’s probably the best lesson he passed on to Trunks.
I think most people overlook the fact that it's been years since the cell saga, and Gohan is at peace and at a different state of kind. The kid that fought cell didn't have much of a choice in having to fight (same as future gohan) but present Gohan doesn't have that struggle. He is doing what he loved. Also trunks doesn't telegraph or look like he is in trouble, specially with how he carried himself with Gohan. For all they know he is just stopping by and catching up.
I think there's a secondary hidden message in this episode that really goes over people's head regardless if people want to embrace it or not.
There's this wild assumption by fans that "Chi chi made Gohan what he is now" when that's not exactly true.... Before all the training with Piccolo and everything else, Gohan truly did want to become a scholar. If anything Chichi was being supportive because life is tough. Most of the time she freaks out a lot is mainly because of the crazy stuff they deal with.
The future Gohan most fans worship so dearly, despite being a total badass is from a torn future, where he had no choice but to fight and he died a dog's death alone in the rain as a result.
What Trunks is seeing is Gohan's dream being fully realized. He's happy. It's essentially the writers saying *"Look guys.... This is Gohan, he will train to fight here and there, but unlike Goku and Vegeta who fight because it's within their instinctual urge battle..... Gohan does it to protect his family. He doesn't thirst for battle or competition. What you see in this episode is the very thing that makes him the happiest person in the world."*
And even though we will see Gohan fight in the future, we should understand the essence of what Gohan is. he's not a saiyan, he's more "half human" and with those human traits he has his own aspirations in life. Gohan will always fight, but we got to learn to embrace this reality
Thank you for saying this because people spread misinformation on Gohan entire character.
I like to see that there are some people in this world who analyse the purposes of some animes and don't watch blindly just for entertainment. Your words are so true my friend. And Trunks's world is a way for the writer to show us that sometimes you don't like your life because something bad happened in it, but it could be so much worse. Proof of Gohan being a total badass, is the fact that he chooses to be a nice human being. Even while fighting Cell, he didn't want to hurt him. It took the life of C16 to make Gohan lose his mind and let his power take control. He is the best written character inside a world that doesn't make sense, he's the most relatable character in DB universe. Imagine the fact that this gentle guy playing with his daughter will reach SSJB level by training for a few days and using only his mystic technique, no boost or training with the gods or ritual needed for him to reach Goku and Vegeta's level... Plus, the existence of future Trunks makes everything better. Gohan is not a fighter, he is a protector. Which is why he died fighting in Trunks dimension but is alive protecting his people in this dimension
Smh. They’re not real Gohan fans. He’s always wanted to be a scholar. He ONLY fought WHEN HE HAD TO. They need to go back and watch that Namek arc and watch him fight against the Ginyu Force. Then tell me you’d still wanna fight tops
@@ttravis10 thing is that its been hinted and mentioned MANY TIMES during the anime especially during the Cell saga that Gohan does not like fighting and I remember the first episode of DBZ when goku introduced gohan to the crew bulma asked what does he want to be when he grows up and he said he wants to be an orthopedist. This was the english dub but that episode came out in the early to mid 1990s 20 YEARS before super. However, if people dont like his adult character they have a right to voice their displeasure.
But anime fans don't care they only wanna see blind fury. God forbid not every character be exactly like Goku and Vegeta. If all Gohan did was train, he'd just be another Goku and the "fans" would just complain about Gohan just following his dad instead of being his own character. Can't win these days.
If anything Trunks is relieved Gohan turned out how he turned out, Trunks watched him fight and struggle everyday to protect him and pretty much everyone else left in his Timeline and he watched him die. As he said “ I’ve never seen Gohan smile like this “ meaning Gohan has probably never had a day of peace in his timeline, Trunks couldn’t careless about his power he’s just glad he’s alive and happy.
I honestly hate how almost unjustly hate Gohan for persuing the dream that he wanted for himself, its not that chi chi forced him, at the beginning of Z, u could see he wanted to be a scholar, even Goku says that after they beat cell he could be a scholar like he dreamt of. Gohan will only train or fight when its necessary, he's half human, meaning he wont seek out battle. And the thing is goku was disappointed that he hadn't kept up his training but he also recognizes that his kid doesn't have to be him, he has his own aspirations. And Gohan didnt go "soft ", this is how his personality always was, similarly to Goku, he reacts appropriately to the situation, seeing him be happy with his family shouldn't be something that pisses us off, otherwise were not much different to how the fandom sees ChiChi
Love how Piccolo was brutally honest about Gohan’s status as a fighter
No filters, telling it just like it is.
Well ofc, he was and still is his Master and he’s like a second father to him so he has every right to say whatever.
@@dervinhayward968u mean goku’s the second father right? 🤨
thats what someone who cares about someone does. He though maybe trunks might ask Gohan for help and Piccolo is like dont even bother Gohan is a shell of his former self. Why fluff it up?
@@reddiamond8716 Last time I checked Goku and chichi had Gohan so no I said what I said.
As a Gohan Stan I understand your pain… however… if you truly know Gohan you’d know he’s happier now than he’s ever been. For those still upset he never continued to progress as a fighter after Cell and after Buu need to go back and watch the first 75% of Z from the fight against Raditz and Nappa and Vegeta, then against The Ginyu Force and Frieza.. then against Cell. And tell me you’d wanna fight still too. Smh.
Straight facts, this what fans won’t accept they just wanna see Gohan from the Cell Saga, but if they really knew Gohan they would know this is always what he wanted and trunks knew it too, Trunks watched Gohan fight and struggle everyday to protect him and then he died so seeing him in this timeline happy and alive was a huge relief for him.
It couldn't be more obvious when Gohan chose the PERFECT time to be the world's worst pacifist. lol
(when it was his turn to fight Cell)
I like how everyone gathers at the Capsule Corp back patio more often in Super. They were only on it once in Z.
This episode reminds me of the deleted scenes of "The Terminator (1984)", the scene where Sarah and Reese have an altercation in broad daylight and Reese breaks down, Future Trunks seeing Gohan's happy life and comparing it to his dystopian life harkens to that. Future Trunks may look like kid John Connor from T2, but he is the Kyle Reese of Dragon Ball.
I met the man who plays Zamasu in the dub, he also plays Brianiac in Smallville. I also got him to sign my game of DBFZ, he’s a very cool dude!
That actor, James Marsters, has been in a lot of things, but he's probably most famous for playing Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He's also been a Dragon Ball fan for a long time, and even played Piccolo in the unfortunate live-action adaptation, Dragon Ball Evolution, and was just as disappointed as everyone else with how it turned out. He voiced Zamasu for free because he felt he had to give back to the fans after the movie.
The thing is, Gohan doesn’t have the same connection towards Trunks as Trunks does with Gohan unfortunately. So I understand why Gohan wouldn’t think to ask those questions.
trunks actually loved seeing gohan being a dork. he prefers that to the version in his timeline where gohan had nothing but pain and suffering
Future Trunks had mixed feelings about present Gohan. At first he was a bit disappointed that Gohan wasn't the same powerful warrior who defeated Cell, but felt very happy for Gohan for starting his own family & building a happy prosperous life free of wars.
These comments are brutal lol I love it.
I wish other reactors would also realize the importance of Gohan growth. They're so blinded by Shonen fanaticism they wanna see fights but they don't realize Gohan grew to be a great man who realized his dreams and found a family. That's a win in any book
That's what happens when you form an opinion based on the old z dub lol
People who doesn't understand Gohan really annoys me.
Ever since he was a kid Gohan did not like fighting or violence. He was a shy and smart little kid. He loves learning and that's why Chi Chi wanted him to focus on his studies. But he was also a great fighter and has the potential to be a greatest fighter they have and that's why Goku and Piccolo pushed him to fight.
Gohan never got a choice since he had to step up and get stronger cause of all the enemies they had to face.
Gohan in super did get his wish come true, he wanted to focus on his studies and now his family too. He loves his job and his wife and child, he slacked on his training cause he believed that Goku and Vegita will always be there to protect everyone and he didn't have to train so much any more.
So for anyone who says that Chi Chi got her wish of Gohan continuing with his studies is wrong, cause that's what Gohan truly loved as well.
If you've watched the last DBS Super Heroes movie, Gohan was so happy nerding out about his research about ants that glow, even calling them Saiyants.
But at that time he continued with his training and was balancing his job, family and training again. Which was the best out come of Gohan. Also being able to unlock a new form.
People need to understand Gohan as a character instead of calling his parents bad. Cause Chi Chi and Goku are great parents.
When I hear Gohan playing with his daughter being called “cringy” or the softness of Gohan’s parenthood being criticized…I REALLY just can’t understand this fandom.
Whats funny about trunks trying to impress mai is that physically they are the same age... but really she is a grown woman 😂
10:47 This Gohan also had a good fight with Majin Buu, the threat you prevented from even being born in your timeline Trunks
Baris my man, you owe us a episode only had 2 last week 😅. Great reactions love your chemistry and enjoyment for the show
nah you will see later why they didnt react that time. If u pay the 2$ patreon can see why, they are doing a great job
This is a very good episode. Gohan’s living the life he always wanted. Nothing tough to watch. Made trunks realize what he’s fighting for! n reawakened his motivation.
Only Piccolo and Goku should know that Gohan was Future Trunks' master based on what we've seen onscreen. Trunks told Goku and Piccolo overheard him with his crazy hearing.
I’m glad to see Future Trunks in a somewhat relaxed state while in the past, catching up with his friends and family. The threat is still out there, but at least Future Trunks can appreciate the brighter side for a bit.
I find it interesting for Future Trunks to see the characters from post Majin Buu era and what his reaction were. Like seeing Gohan settling down with his wife child. Not to mention his reaction on seeing the Great Saiyaman.
And a nice small Dragon Ball GT reference detail between Trunks and Baby Pan.
As for the question for Gohan getting back to the fight, the Tournament of Power is the answer. Patience😎
The reason why Bulma and Frieza sound different to Madison is because she hasnt seen the Z Kai version of Dbz. Which is even better and close to the original manga. They tried to get the voices of frieza more akin to his Japanese va. Same with Bulma. Thats why they sound different.
Thank god no one is around when future trunks is having a nightmare.... imagine someone standing near his bed when he took that swing😂
you're overacting about gohan, he probably just thought trunks came back to visit them and not that there is a world ending threat
right? like they expect him to know what the viewers know about what's happening lmao
lol Gohan straight up ssid my INFAMOUS father in law in ftont of hercule himself
That taepisodr takes kinda karenish. Like Gohan is an incredible busy person at thi stage. He welcomed an old friend like you would welcome someone you haven't seen in forever. They all got distracted reminiscing about the past to talk about the future. By the time Trunks says his goodbyes they simply were left with questions.
Courtesy is welcoming someone into your house not prying into the reasons for visiting you. As a fact asking someone "what brings you here?" Not only is rude is definitely not a way to welcome a friend.
Well said bro this guy is such a cry baby 😂😂😂
16:26 the first time i saw this scene I cried. It hit me like a truck. 🥲
Baris i understand that you disappointed about gohan in this arc but In my opinion bro I think trunks did the right thing not to tell or bring gohan in the future because he realize that gohan has a happy normal life and he becomes a family man compared to futuregohan’s life that he never had was real tragic for him after dealing with the struggle years of fighting androids and sacrificing his own life for trunks as the last hope and another reason he didn’t want to bring him or get him involve in the future because trunks realized that he’s not strong enough to fight goku black and he didn’t want to see his master counterpart die again and he doesn’t want history repeating itself
I get what Trunks means about doing nothing, but at the same time it is a Time Machine my dude. You will literally get there at the exact same second even if you left in a month.
Dude Zamasu! I fricken LOVE god complex characters. Zamasu is one of my favorite DB villains. Can’t for y’all to see his development and downward spiral.
EDIT: I don’t have a problem with Gohan at all in this episode. These are times of peace. And it’s not like Trunks told him what was happening like he did back then. So how’s he supposed to know that this/that/and the third is going on? Also, if you saw on old friend YEARS later are you really just gonna talk about “here’s why everything where I’m at sucks”? I don’t think so, I know I wouldn’t.
You guys are always attentive and good at picking up on the hidden details... I'm a bit disappointed that you missed the whole point of this episode
Future Trunks should've used the Namakian Dragon Balls to revive Future Gohan and the others in his time.
agreed, im sure bulma could have figured out where new namek is or at the very least king kai communicating and telling her where it is
I don’t think the dragon balls work like that, maybe the super db from tournament of power
@@DS123-gb8tfwhen kami pr piccolo was killed. They revived them with namekien dragon balls. So with kami alive earths dragon balls where available so they used it to revive all ppl killed by frieza.
They didn't even know the location of New Namek in the original timeline. If it wasn't for King Kai and Goku's Instant Transmission then they wouldn't have found Dende
@@ibtihazzjinan4780 I’m saying i don’t think the present dragon balls would work to fix future trunk’s timeline, since in trunk’s time piccolo/Kami isn’t alive so no earth dragon balls only the ones on namek
You guys misunderstand Gohans character a lot
biggest understatement
Trunks was just happy to see Gohan happy with a family, he’s knows that’s all gohan ever wanted
I miss Trunks with purple hair and big muscles. I liked that fit he used too when he finished off 17 and 18 in his timeline with that drip black track suit and gold boots
This one looks like a teen despite being in his battle-hardened 30s.
Love's Trunks flashback here and one thing I thought was very telling was that Piccolo and Krillin were both shocked that Gohan from his time was the one that trained him. Because they seen Gohan let himself go they were shocked that Trunks master was Gohan from the future.
Especially Krillin you can hear it in his voice you mean you trained you
He did the background when trunks explained he was Fearless.
I think to make that line even more epic is he was Fearless a true Saiyan warrior.
Future Gohan is #1 on my book not the strongest we all know that but the best.
I couldn't disagree harder with you guys about Gohan lol.
Uh oh...someone doesn't know about his character
Every Dragonball fan felt or feels like future Trunks with Gohan. Yeah they should have asked him why he is back. It didn't cross there minds. The opposite comparison of two timelines, it's crazy and heartbreaking.
The scene in the movie of Trunks walking towards Gohans body is probably the most devastating in all of Z
I sometimes feel Future Trunks should have trained with the real Goku to prepare to fight Goku Black. If Goku Black is everything the real Goku is, Future Trunks should train with the real Goku to get an idea on how to better deal with Goku Black
You forget something very important.. it's a detail but, Goku is dead in Trunks dimension before even Cell appeared lol which is why future Gohan was his mater and died fighting the androids. It took Trunks to come back to the present, kill Cell, go back to his timeline and fight the androids to get rid of them. Goku black came to their world way after Goku's death. Since this episode is posted I assume they already watched the next episodes so I can tell you exactly whats going on : Goku black is not from Trunks timeline. Which is why he was completely unexpected and why nobody can stop him in Trunks world because nobody is as strong as that Goku
the only one left in Trunks timeline (from the Saiyans) is Trunks himself. everybody died, Piccolo doesn't exist so there is no Kami therefore there are no dragon balls. And since they were living in peace after the death of the androids and before the coming of Goku black, Trunks didn't evolve that much from the time he was fighting Cell. He reached SSJ2 by himself which is a feature by itself, since there was no opponent to go against that required that strength from him, it's already an accomplishment for Trunks to have reached SSJ2 without any purpose, just dedication. Not even Goku did it, he spent huge amounts of time training in heaven to reach SSJ2 and SSJ3. Anyway, just keep watching the episodes, you'll see that future Trunks is a GIGACHAD
@@Medsuo_Retro I meant Future Trunks training with the present Goku, the Goku who just showed him Super Saiyan 3.
@@Medsuo_RetroWow you really typed all that for nothing 😂. Why would he be talking about his timelines Goku?? He is literally in the past he's obviously referring to the Goku we know.
As you can see in this timeline Goku is visiting the 10th universe so obviously he cannot be at two places at the same time :) I thought you'd come to this conclusion by the end of the episode, his father is still there tho and is way much stronger than Goku in SSJ3 ;) @@joshualowe959
Trunks has seen a baby before, himself lol
6:50 Piccolo tells Future Trunks that Gohan is not a fighter anymore
(at least not until the Superhero)
7:25 History of Trunks flashback
Piccolo should known about that given he overheard Trunks talking with Goku but he never told the others
its alot of pressure trunks gotta stop being hard on himself i know its tough but one step at a time
16:45 It goes to show how much Trunks' life has been ruined and to see what he saved.
18:20 It's more that Trunks didn't want to bother them with it. Otherwise he'd of brought it up.
Normally I love y'all reactions but y'all were talking WAY TOO MUCH in this video, you both inadvertently ended up ruining an otherwise touching episode. Like do ya'll understand the whole reason why Trunks went into the past in the first place? His future still ended up the same: The Z-warriors are still dead, the Dragon Balls don't exist, and the Androids were still alive with the threat of Cell still out there. That's why when he came back the 2nd time he was all shocked and confused because he didn't know that he created a branch timeline making his trip meaningless. So why would he stay and help? Simple...BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT GOKU AND THEM TO GO THROUGH WHAT HE DID!
Y'all complaining about and agreeing with Trunks that people are way too laid back and are not on high alert 24/7 compared to his timeline, but why is that a bad thing? Isn't that what Trunks should be fighting for instead of being jealous of not having it good and being far weaker than Goku and Vegeta? This episode is meant to show that Trunks has been fighting way too long that he lost sight of the endgoal. That's why he was confused about Gohan not fighting anymore, cause he thought Goku and them were going to keep on being on the verge of annihilation after the Androids which in turn they have, but never would he thought they would experience long periods of peace which Trunks never had in his timeline. His Gohan was always fighting for his life until his death so of course it would be weird seeing a version of him that lives a quiet and happy life. Why the fuck would he ever hope for alternative Gohan to help fight Black when he saw firsthand of Goku easily surpassing that power when they sparred and why would Gohan drop all of his shit and leave his family to help Trunks especially when his sudden appearance caught everyone off guard? I thought y'all hated whenever Goku leaves Chi Chi and Goten to train?
Gohan never wanted to be a fighter. Piccolo forced him, he had to fight to survive on Namek, Goku forced him to fight Cell, Videl blackmailed him to enter the World Tournament, and the Supreme Kai dragged him into the Buu mess. The kid almost died a dozen times before his 18th birthday and has a wife and kid that he actually SHOWS AFFECTION TO outside of "I'm the protector" and people still blame Chi Chi for him not wanting to be like Goku smfh
We love great saiyaman in this house. I would truly recommend you guys just kai because details are glossed over the original version didn't cover. Especially pertaining to Gohan's character
Gohan will get his time to shine in the Super Hero
Trunks never told the Z fighters that Gohan was his master he only ever told Goku when they met
It's funny how the dub recons future Gohan calling the Androids as bastards. The old dub would be been like "those gosh darn meanies".
And I don't get the issue with the dichotomy between Trunk's world and the current peaceful world. The point is that peace like that is why Trunks is fighting and his motivation for a better world. And this world achieved it after the Androids, Cell, and Buu.
Nah Trunks never told anybody that Gohan was his mentor in DBZ . He probably felt that saying too much might mess up the timeline even more . This episode in Super is the first time he tells anybody that Gohan was his mentor . Also Gohan has already started training with Piccolo . Both of you watched that episode already when he asked piccolo to start training him again because he wasnt strong enough to fight against Frieza when he came back to life in the earlier episodes . Just keep in mind Gohan is doing a lot of off screen training rn . Like it showed him training with Piccolo right before the Universe 6 and Universe 7 tournament when Goku and Vegeta were recruiting fighters to join .
Actually he said to Goku that he was the one who taught him how to fight. Picollo also heard that too
@@footballfan283 Yes but Trunks doesn't know that so Piccolo is just playing along for the sake of conversation. Okay he's telling us things, just let him repeat the parts I know because he'll probably elaborate.
4:16 Future Trunks has a nightmare
Poor Future Trunks, can't never catch a break
Future Gohan is suffering from PTSD, that's why he wakes up swinging every time.
Trunks*
Pan is such a happy baby. So cute
I'm surprised that you guys didn't notice the doctor briefs voice actor is different
19:44 Zamasu.......
14:12 Cutie duty😁😁😁😁
This episode feels like it directly sets up the new movie for Gohan :o
Now that I think about it trunks comin back to the past butterfly effect probably affected gohan 😂😂 🤦🏽♂️
To be fair if i was gohan i would probably do the same specially after i was born i had to go through so much without even having a childhood life. Even though as a kid i was admire and had people call me cool and the strongest. So yha i see 50/50 but i'm surprised gohan could kept he's saiyan lineage in tact.
10:18 Gohan is going to regain his edge in the Superhero movie
They will hate on that too you’ll see, hating Gohan is such a trend now 🤷♂️
@@Raveesha Part of this is the wishwashy writing. In Buu saga, its fine that he got soft. It makes sense. Then he returns to form, fulfills his potential, and still loses. Okay still fine, but he learned his lesson you would think. Frieza comes back. Gohan says I got to start training like its a wake up call. so we are retreading same ground Then he isn't up to par for the Universe 6 and 7 Tournament despite Krillin growing hair in the anime, but in the manga it happens one after the other. This is fine because he's working and training on the side. He's just not there yet right? Now this is even further along and he still isn't showing signs of training yet. Its not until later that it pays off with him at least being top 5 on his team and being stronger than ever. Then for some reason he's regressed again by Super Hero and has time return to form again. So they are reusing the same story beats and its frustrating. Its like they know certain fans want him to develop in one direction, then yank that from them to rinse and repeat. Even if you aren't a Gohan fanboy, its still frustrating to see a character not having a direction he wants to stay doing. Why bring the guy back into the fold if he's not staying. Also, all the guy has to do these days is hop in the time chamber with now its infinite time limit for a 10 minutes of real world time a couple times a week to keep up his training enough to maintain Super Buu level strength. He'd have to sacrifice less time with his family than you or I have to spend on exercise to stay healthy. Take Trunks and Goten in there. Even when Goku was getting soft, he was never wrecked by a villain just because he was weaker than he previously was from not training at all.
Just wait until Future Trunks finds out Krillin married Android 18......
They nerfed my boy gohan so bad man
Wait until you see Vegeta fight Goku black
With Dragon Ball Diama coming out soon, now you’ll have some material that you 2 can react to that you both haven’t seen.
How would trunks know how it is with dads and daughters videl lol
Well Mai is the more competent of Pilaf's henchmen. And that's not saying much.
Gohan was 9 when he killed Cell also I remember on Z that Trunks' sword broke, I could be wrong about the sword
Gohan was either 10 or 11 years old, when he killed Cell. I just looked it up. He technically aged a year in the hyperbolic time chamber.
@chanceneck8072 oh yeah I forgot about the time chamber
Satan's daughter: Devil anagram.
Judging by your eyes I believe you caught yourself in a slip up mentioning that black has Goku’s body. You gave her an unintentional clue. Judging by her eyes she caught the clue. Both of you tried to play it off though.
not the first time he's done that. one of the reasons i don't like watching reactors react to something they've already seen but bring someone on who hasn't and then won't shut up at every scene
this is nice but every once in a while,i would like to see u DOUBLE UP and do 2 EPISODES back to back,because the storyline builds and it,s should a BUZZKILL we have to wait 2 DAYS BEFORE you upload a new one, besides we got some bonafide cliffhangers coming up soon,just hope u guys consider it
Wait until the end of this arc 😂
Why is The Shows Audio Slowed down in your videos? It bothers me lol
Yall take on Gohan is the hottest ive seen def a pessimistic interpretation but thats the point of debate i guess
Wait, didn't future Gohan lose his left arm? Also, isn't Pan supposed to learn how to fly... _later_ ?
The video is mirrored and Toei gave Pan the ability to fly too early since in the end of DBZ she had just learned how to fly.
@@katchin1523 Also in Super Hero, she just learned how to fly which is right before End of Z. Now going by anime, we have to assume she forgot how because she lost her baby memories.
Can you guys do a reaction to Dragon Ball Daima? - If so, skip the Dragon Ball timeline at the beginning cuz it shows spoilers for Madison like ToP
VEGETA HAS THE BEST CHARACTER DEVEOPLMENT IN ANY ANIME CHANGE MY MIND, Also I don't contradict Baris a lot but Vegeta is finding motivation to destroy Goku black not present Goku, cause he destroyed his entire family in the future and in the words of Vegeta "Looks like that clown"
i can't wait for you guys to watch Super Hero!
Have you guys reacted to Bardock the Father of Goku?
On Patreon, they did.
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No power scaling will make sense from this point forward in all of super not just here so just turn off your logic
Dragon ball's power scaling never made sense
It's like midiclorian count in SW. A way to write yourself creatively into a corner.@@lordkai59
Sad ep
Baris, you're dead wrong you need to pay closer attention
Ikr? Gohan didn't bothered to ask how is he or why is he here.
Gohan is so casual about everything....its like he expects his father and vegeta to save the world everytime...you don't get the peaceful life served on a platter, you have to earn it
bro, i love the shirt but do not dress in white again i can not see from it much thx.
I seriously hate Adult Gohan only because I absolutely loved him as a kid. He peaked at Cell and was the most bad azz character and yes I get it he never liked fighting and he ended up being a successful intelligent man but hes so damn lame. Also you brought up a good point, not once did Gohan sense the need to ask what brings Trunks back, is it just to visit is it because of something else? Nope, he was so caught up being in his happy family and perfect life bubble that it never crossed his mind but like Trunks said, all that power he sensed in him during cell, he felt absolutely nothing from him here. The sad thing is, if Gohan ever decided to actually train seriously, he still has the highest potential out of any character in the DB/Z/GT/Super/Movies universe his potential is literally limitless.
Maybe Gohan thought Trunks was just visiting. Trunks didn't seem troubled when he visited Gohan. Even if Gohan did ask, he wouldn't be in any shape for Black
@@gamesmoney1025 I completely understand that but my point is a rational person would ask. Bulma, Krillin, Piccolo, etc. would ask whats up? All Gohan said was basically HEY! Lets hang out! meet my family and lets eat! He was already warned Gohan wasnt the same Gohan from cell so trunks knew he was in no shape for black especially since he already sensed nothing in him when he first saw him compared to the last time he saw him. Either way it just came out as kind of self centered in a way like he didnt even ask did you meet the rest of the crew? did you know my dad is back? nothing. It was basically lets hang out and see my perfect life oh the day is done we should do this again! I get it though, Gohan is so far removed from the fighting scene that hes legitimately has the current thought capacity of a normal human but still such a shame.
@@israymervalentin-arias6313You to remember Gohan half saiyan he doesn't live everyday for fighting like his dad and Vegeta he hates fighting he just didn't hqve any choice then nothing happened for 7 years after cell so he ain't gonna have any reason to train just live life taking care of his mother and little brither then after Buu he married Videl start his career and had Pan
So basically you want Gohan to be goku 2.0? Got it jackass
Then go talk to a therapist about gohan if it bothers you so much.
At least we can all agree that Super ruined Videl more than anything haha.
all? who? lmao i think she's much better this way
Everybody defending Gohan is missing the point. Yes sure he accomplished his dream but he used to enjoy training too. Him using goku and Vegeta as an excuse all the time is a lazy excuse. He can more than make the time to train but hes undisciplined but lets one thing overtake everything.
I don't think "having a successful career and raising a family" is the sign of someone undisciplined, and dismissing them as "one thing" shows an extremely narrow perspective. Fighting isn't a priority for Gohan like it is for Goku, and the kind of training that Goku and Vegeta do is essentially a full-time effort, not the kind of thing that can fit in easily around a demanding career and caring for his family - the things that Goku neglects.
@@N0-1_H3r3 I'm talking about a few quick training that Gohan could've done to at least maintain his power rather than being weaker than his cell games self when it's about to be the TOP
He was never a fighter, never enjoyed it and only fought when he absolutely had to. That was shown throughout all of Z and super. No one is missing the point except those who keep saying how much of a let down he became. It's not some mystery that he decided to give up fighting to follow his dreams and raise a family. That was hinted at the start of z with raditz and piccolo even said as much during the cell games.
@@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT yes but he Still did enjoy training too. You'd think a guy as smart as him would find time for balance
@@ZarrarAAlihe was literally still stronger than he buu counterpart before the TOP
Gohan is a jerk. He has no idea what trunks went through in the future but it is obviously he came back for a strong and dangerous reason.
How is he a jerk? Lol obviously trunks didn't want to bring it up to him and Gohan just loved the company so he didn't think to ask. When you have a friend visit you after a long time, you don't question why they're there, you're just happy to see them
@@lordkai59 it's ok im with you. But that's in our real world. People come to visit because they want to see you again. What I meant was that Gohan used to be serious and a strong Man. Remember when he fought buu as mistic gohan. We was so different. Well after this scene with trunks we did well as the captain of the universe 7 at the tournament of powers.. cheers .
Super is such trash of a show. It wrongs so many characters and plot is inconsistent af
In the future gohan will get his comeback