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  • @bearcb
    @bearcb ปีที่แล้ว +93

    This 2nd movement of the Piano Concert in G is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written!

  • @musikant-d2x
    @musikant-d2x ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The melody is really beautiful, but what is even more fascinating for me is the rhythm: The piece is written in 3/4, but you hear in the first bar in the left hand 6/8. When the melody starts in 3/4, the ear can't tell what time signature we're in and that gives the whole piece its floating quality...

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      couldn't have put it better myself!

    • @권영석-v3g
      @권영석-v3g ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe brahms’ 76 5

  • @Hailey_Paige_1937
    @Hailey_Paige_1937 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Absolutely brilliant video! Ravel is my favorite composer for sure, and you do his works a great justice! The Adagio Assai helps me to unwind after a stressful day, so it’s nice to see you analyzing it! ☺️

  • @garynesteruk7071
    @garynesteruk7071 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I recommend the Michelangeli recording - timeless.

  • @Fabio-le7fi
    @Fabio-le7fi ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for analyzing the beginning of this masterpiece. That's a pity you haven't mentioned the magic moment when the orchestra starts after this long solo. The increasing tension during the solo makes one wonders how can Ravel manage to introduce his orchestra. And he does not disappoint us. His solution reminds me of the orchestra answer to the marvelous piano introduction in the Adagio of Mozart's famous A-major piano concerto.

    • @neon9601
      @neon9601 ปีที่แล้ว

      FRRRRR. I feel like I ascend every time the wind and strings come in. What a masterpiece

  • @alfenito
    @alfenito ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Nice, but VERY frustrating to not hear the whole melody played in its entirety even once.

    • @LordSesshaku
      @LordSesshaku ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  ปีที่แล้ว +31

      i'll keep that in mind thanks!

    • @danb2622
      @danb2622 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, like an itch you can’t scratch. Now I need to listen to the whole movement. I’ve always loved it so much!

    • @petergreen1869
      @petergreen1869 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Always nice to have the complete passage with notation played at the end so the viewer can review what he/she has just learnt.
      Enjoyable video all the same.
      Many thanks sir.

    • @lew306
      @lew306 ปีที่แล้ว

      Visit your local record shop

  • @elskerlme7992
    @elskerlme7992 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for this great video. Ravel is by far my favorite composer and his music is truly amazing. I enjoy watching your analysis videos, it helps me understand the music better !

  • @karllieck9064
    @karllieck9064 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Give Francesca's theme from Tchaikovsky's Francesca di Rimini. Boy, it's long and utterly sublime.

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ravel’s genius.

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It reminds me of the continuous long melody you can fin in Beethoven's Op.101 (1st mov.).

  • @周韵宁
    @周韵宁 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hallo Lim, your video is so great. It helps me a lot by playing Ravel. And this pattern of the second movement in the concerto reminds me the „Rigaudon“ in the „le Tombeau the Couperin“. And I am playing this piece now. It would makes me very happy, if I can find some video of analysis of „le Tombeau the Couperin“ in your channel 😊 Thank you so much!

  • @madrigal1956
    @madrigal1956 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very interesting ; it would be great to hear about the rhythmic ambiguity (6/8 3/4) too! (well I know it's all in 3/4 but you see what I mean)

  • @chrisperyagh
    @chrisperyagh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice that he gives this melody to the cor anglais later on in this movement.
    I reckon Ridley Scott should've used this in 'Blade Runner' in the scene where Rachel is playing the piano.

  • @SerpongeDash
    @SerpongeDash ปีที่แล้ว

    I never realized how this was in major (regardless of the name) with how sad it is, crazy

  • @joshenz
    @joshenz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    goated

  • @thethikboy
    @thethikboy ปีที่แล้ว

    In transcendent beauty it rivals' the Rachmaninoff Adagio from his second piano concerto. As slow as they are they signal a subtle desperation a tragic anguish of the soul.

  • @jacksonelmore6227
    @jacksonelmore6227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skylar Lim dropping knowledge!

  • @OE1FEU
    @OE1FEU ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please have your piano tuned.

  • @jpdj2715
    @jpdj2715 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very interesting lecture. Thank you. To me, Mozart is still too much Baroque and so far from Ravel that I don't know how to compare these. This piano concerto is one of the most touching pieces of music there are. Mozart only does that to me in his requiem, but that, in its essence, is based on church tradition. As to Ravel, let's not forget he called his Bolero a piece for orchestra without music and a with a mechanical conductor. Yes, "melody" as in "music" (to our ears, brains, hearts) was important to him and that's why he answered a Gershwin to not want to teach him because he should stay Gershwin and not become a variant of Ravel.

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it was more so the aesthetic and spirit of mozart that ravel admired so much - the simplicity and perhaps perfectionism; not saying more than what needs to be said

  • @simonerhard5034
    @simonerhard5034 ปีที่แล้ว

    great content, thank you

  • @richardvaughan4509
    @richardvaughan4509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice, but could you have the piano tuned?

  • @88pampa
    @88pampa ปีที่แล้ว

    beautifully presented!

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  ปีที่แล้ว

      very kind of you! thank you

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant

  • @carbonc6065
    @carbonc6065 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 ปีที่แล้ว

    foot off pedal in Chopin until otherwise written

  • @bulliwoody3674
    @bulliwoody3674 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little obvious / basic but nice vid . Don’t stop the music every two bars it’s very frustrating people can’t appreciate the piece like that..

  • @ravelesque34
    @ravelesque34 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Debussy couldn't be any more wrong, Ravel is the greatest of them all; for with piano and orchestra and entire music, he discovered everything

    • @nasirferguson4098
      @nasirferguson4098 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don’t get why every time ravel or Debussy comes up SOMEONE has to choose and destroy a side. Debussy was a more different type of composer. Don’t compare the two. Their friendship ended because of people like you in their day

    • @WhiteAssassion677
      @WhiteAssassion677 ปีที่แล้ว

      not entire music, bach is strongest contender for best musician of all time

    • @_Athanos
      @_Athanos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@WhiteAssassion677
      You guys are really something else, people will fight over stupid stuff like who the better composer out of two ones was or who the best ever was but only mentioning a limited amount of composers and you can't help but to bring Bach up, it's so utterly irrelevant lol and the debate was stale to begin with so really you're only making it worse 😐

    • @WhiteAssassion677
      @WhiteAssassion677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Athanos really, i just ended the debate by providing only accurate answer, can’t really argue with Bach as best.

    • @_Athanos
      @_Athanos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhiteAssassion677
      Do you realize just how ridiculous you sound and yes I can argue with it, like many many people with musical minds much more acute than either of us possess have, the best musical minds seem to come to general consensus with some level of precision but certainly not enough to declare a particular composer better than all the others, and many very fine people have different opinions