@@willl7780 I love the Ducati character with the V-Twin, trellis frame, dry clutch.. You don't have these anymore. And esthetically in my eyes at least, Ducati is lacking for the past 20 years.. Ducati design peaked with the 916, first generation Monster 900, and the old square headlight Supersport.. These were all in the 90s and were masterpieces. Anything after them from Ducati hasn't convinced me unfortunately
And remember, being looked at--drawing attention to yourself--is a safety feature as a motorcyclist. The nut-frying is also a feature. It's so squids don't breed.
My dealership loaned me one of these yesterday while my bike was serviced. Really really impressed. Ducati have found the perfect balance between fast and fun - just the right amount of street displacement, great handling and reasonably comfortable for a sport bike. And as beautiful as any Panigale. I owned it’s bigger brother (V4 S) and would easily buy this bike over it any day. Any more for this and you get all track fun and too much (aka boring) for the street. This one hits it down the middle perfectly. Well done Ducati!
I Know Football I think it really depends on what you want to use it for, and your riding style. I do 99% street riding with a few track days a year to learn how to go faster. The V4 is blisteringly fast, which makes it really exciting to ride if you have the room to excel accelerate hard but otherwise gives you big bike syndrome. You just feel like you’re holding it back all the time, with it being unhappy below 50 and just starting to come alive as you head north of 90 mph. Don’t get me wrong - awesome awesome bike. Did 11,000 miles on mine before I traded it in. But in the end too much for the street, because it just starts to get fun at speeds well in excess of any common speed limits. Another real issue for me was the heat off the V4 - if I rode for hours at a time I literally had burns on my right calf and thigh no matter what protection I wore. The V2 felt as nimble as the V4, but it’s engine gives you far better low speed grunt and you can use so much more of it’s potential that it ends up being way more fun to ride. Think I could probably rip faster on the V2 at the track too, provided the straights weren’t too long. I totally get the mentality of I want the biggest, but if you’re primarily a street rider the V2 is a case of less is more. Anyway - a great dilemma to have. Good luck in your choice!
Scott L definitely felt that during my test ride! Says the same thing. Over 100 the bike is awesome. Below 100, felt like I could crack my Panigale and feel like I was getting excitement. The V4 felt buttery smooth shifting, turning and great dampening without feeling too soft and unstable. I may keep both but I don’t ride enough to keep both
Most of the routing of the pipe under the seat is partly due to packaging, coupled with making sure that the pipe lengths from each cylinder is equal when they meet in the cat box under the bike. If they were uneven, the exhaust flow would be slightly compromised, and since the Panigale is designed so uniquely and compact there isn't any other space for the rear exhaust pipe to go, except under your seat. The Panigale is arguably the most complex production bike ever when it comes to its technical design, no other bike has undergone the requirements that the Ducati team managed when they got the original Panigale design brief. It's quite nuts really. But hey at least in colder weather it doubles as a seat heating feature :)
I reckon it's for older riders, reminding them of the glory days of the 90s and 00s with the glorious Fogarty Superbike noise. The newest litre bikes are sold from the numbers. This bike is bought with the heart, not the head
I just as much fun to ride a smaller bike harder than to lope along frustrates with a big bike knowing ur using at best 30-50 % of its capacity on the road. I have a 300cc auto scooter forza Honda and I ride that everywhere with the throttle wide open and have a blast. No gears, no clutch. Plus I can fit a carton of piss under the seat when I stagger out of the pub on a Friday night. Cops never look at you twice on a scooter. They just look a think, “poor old cunt.” 👍😁
Over 150hp, you don’t really notice much of difference until 80mph+ speeds when using the gearbox. The average rider on the street doesn’t benefit from cutting edge horsepower. Now if you are lazy with shifting, then yes, extra torque helps but the V2 already has better mid range torque than many 4 cylinder bikes.
I like it for the styling, performance, and exclusivity. It's the best looking bike for sale, doesn't need RPMs to reach the powerband which makes it street worthy, and isn't a Japanese bike. I'm planning on at least test driving one. Top three bikes along with MT-10 which I like for the value and CBR1000RR-SP which I like for proven reliability but this V2 is number one on my list.
One thing sim racing has taught me is that big power isn't always the most fun on track. You want something with a balance between the power, chassis, and driver capability. The more power you have, the less time you spend on the throttle and the more time you spend on the brakes. By reducing power a bit, you get to spend less time trying to slow the car/bike down for the next corner.
I’ve been riding for 53years, just got my 2020 Ducati Panigale V4s, with a full Titanium Akropovic, oh what a absolutely exciting thrilling elegant ride !
I ride a 959, I considered getting on a waitlist for the V2 before I bought the 959. I’m glad I didn’t wait because I’d miss some serious riding time. I’ve clocked 6500 miles in 7 months because I just can’t stop riding it. The “small” panigale is an amazing bike.
No bike, I repeat No bike sounds like a Ducati. There sound is Very unique. Once you hear one. You will never forget it. Like Harley Davidson have a unique sound as well.
In the Ducati R&D laboratory: Luigi: Should we put a heated seat on the Pentagali? Mario: Nooo!!! We just route the exhaust under the seat and Boom! A heated seat and we save weight!
Ever since the 848. The mid size supersport ducati has been my favorite/dream bike to own. That would be the ONLY supersport I would ever want. BELLISSIMO!!
I'm a few years late to this comment, but as the owner of a 748s and (hopefully this week) new owner of a 2023 brand new v2 I fully agree. I love the new V4, but I'll still pivk a v2 because even though I don't live far from the german Autobahn, there still aren't many opportunities to fully unleash the v4 and the V2 is more than enough :)
Yam, I think something you seem to ignore is the fact that we are all people and sometimes a bike just speaks to a person. It doesn’t always have to be “streetable” or have a specific purpose that you have to use it for. That’s a big part of the liter bike market. You seem to always need a reason and logic behind what you ride but it just isn’t the case. I’m super happy on my R1 and I exclusively ride on the street as of right now (mainly just cause I’m not close to a track and it’s still pretty expensive) but the point is that yes the V2 may be a logical choice for a lot of people but it doesn’t mean it’s the right choice for people.
They did an amazing job packaging a streetable sport bike. They managed to find that sweet spot with a track machine that I wouldn’t mind commuting with. The liter bikes are just too much for that. Offer more along this line in the expert giveaway and expose more people to the advantages of compromise between power and poise. One of the reasons I always liked the speed triple is it was just a little bit more than the street but not completely mental like the super duke r or mt10. Food for thought for future expert bikes. The lesser power but still highly polished machines that are available like the speed triple or Ducati supersport. Even the Honda cb1000r.
@@khazzzzzz 600cc is the worst sport bikes for the street. they lack any power under 8k rpm with the combination of aggressive riding position and overall small and compact size makes them very frustrating experience on the street. They're pure race bikes. Al least 1000cc superbikes come with nice features and electronics and their torque down low makes them usable on the street. I had r6 before I got on my r1 and the r1 feels like honda Goldwing in comparison. Not even for free I would ride 600cc on the street again.
This whole “too much power for the road” shit is sooo stupid.. they are motorbikes, pretty much all of them are too fast for the road, might as well get the best one.. cough cough bmw s1000rr.
Anton Newman... I know what you mean. 1199 rider here, and I looked at a 600 as a potential little brother but in 2 minutes I wanted off it. It had twin exit cans under the seat and sounded sweet, nice and loud, but felt totally gutless until 10k, at which point its just a cop caller.
@Yammie Noob, the throttle on Ducati RBW benefits greatly from a throttle spacer. Once installed, set your mapping with *Throttle response* on “Race” but EBW (Engine Brake Control) set on 3 (minimum engine braking). This keeps the butterfly’s open and softens the off / on response on the crack of the throttle. My V2 is absolute perfection now. Lastly, If you can’t shift into neutral you probably need to bleed the clutch. Panigale is notorious with air entrainment on the clutch MC, even with new bikes.
I really wish Ducati would bring back the family of Streetfighters like when they had the 848 and 1098. A V2 Streetfighter would be an amazing commuter bike, I feel the V4 has too much power to be truly practical for every day use. I’d sell my Supersport and my SF848 in a heartbeat to consolidate down to a SF V2. Hopefully the Bologne bois see the V2 sales (sold out already everywhere) and see the trend towards commuter use and make an SF family again.
@@Scootir185 There are even more choices actually. There are Monsters with 821cc with 109hp and 1200cc monster with 140hp. Then there is hypermotard and if you add another V2 Streetfighter in the mix, it might be too much competition with it's own models.
Hopus All excellent points. Hopefully they’ll give it a try - I’d far rather have a V2 Streetfighter than either Monster myself. Too dated and consistently weird foot placement. But hey that’s me. Let’s keep our fingers crossed they’ll make the move.
KTM’s big bikes are all V Twins. 1090, 1190, and 1290. LC8 V twin. A really fun engine. They’ve been using it and upgrading it for years now. Same engine in their RC8 race bike that has been wining lately. Give it a test ride sometime. I’m a little biased, I ride a 1290 SAR. I just like V twins and parallel twins.
Scott L the Hyper 950 has an almost 36” seat height and features the same 937cc engine as my Supersport. Rider ergos and body triangle are very different.
Great review Yammie what an awesome bike for a "giveaway". Love how you highlight how well balanced the overall offering is. Would love to see you ride an MV Agusta f3 800 in a comparison to this bike as i feel that the MV represents a direct competitor to this bike.
I had a 2009 848. Hard saddle, hard on the wrists, and boy that hot seat. All worth it. To be fair, there is nowhere else to put an exhaust pipe in the case of a vtwin as the rear cylinder is under your crotch. You can find wraps/coatings and use water wetter for heat management, and also wearing riding pants helps.
These bikes need throttle spacers installed to make the actuation feel more direct. Its a cheap mod but it has made the biggest difference for me on my 899.
@@CunningStuntsGoFast they may have solved the throttle play issue on the v4. On older panigales there was about 1 degree of free play which made the throttle feel delayed and detached.
@@Tach_yon no the v4 had the same amount of play as my other ducatis did , i owned the 1199 and the 1199 s before . i always read everybody is so happy with it , and i didnt . good for you you like it but i didnt feel the difference once i was on the bike
Ducati describe it both ways, a V twin and also Type: Superquadro L-twin Displacement: 955cc Bore x stroke: 100 x 60.8 mm Maximum power: 155 horsepower @ 10,750 rpm
I have owned a monster 1200s. Similar power characteristics to the Panigale V2. Love how you can see part of the exhaust through the fairing. Just like Lambos or Ferrari’s I like to see the motor. Monster for the street, Panigale hanging in my living room wall! V2 perfect track bike but not a commuter bike.
The superlatives just kept comin’!!! You guys were repeating yourself and ran out of words to laud this bike. It feels like we all forgot what a motorcycle is supposed to provide us - an exhilarating experience. In the race to add horsepower, we lost site of rideability. Thanks Ducati for reminding us what the experience is SUPPOSED to be about. Who needs 200++ horsepower.
Yamwah! Awesome review of bike on open roads and in the burbs...would have liked to see the Austin city ride in peak hour traffic and hear if you still love it?
It’s interesting to me how different bikes hit other people’s desire points. You said you think the Ducati ride by wire system is poor and far from the r1 or r1m, but I’ve read and seen so many people absolutely bash Yamaha for not having a system that competes against all the other super bikes with a fake feeling throttle. I’m not in any way picking on your opinion. Being a Ducati guy and owning a v4s, I find Ducati’s design very intuitive and gives real time feedback. I have also owned r1’s, a Daytona 750, speed triple 1200rs, and many others. Being a racer or both car and bikes, I always was skeptical of electronics taking over and losing the feel of the automobile or bike. Owning corvette Z06’s, Subaru sti’s, panigales, r1’s, etc…, I haven’t lost any joy, laptimes, or trust in the process.
I have an 899 with the Termignoni upgrade and the factory upmap. All modern bikes suffer from poor fueling at low rpms due to Euro4/5 restrictions. An ECU flash will completely solve that problem.
YAM you should get yourself over the the isle of man TT next year. I know you have the money so what's stopping you? Best thing you'll ever see in your life! Love from Newcastle england 😁
Totally agree... Normal people like you/me, not the expert skilled track rider don't need a 200HP bike... This more then enough, and even more then most riders need... Next year this is gonna be me track bike, can't wait!!
I grew up when the 916 was popular and being a colleague I myself I used to follow Scott Russell on a zx7r which I used to own one. That was a really fast motorcycle and had much less horsepower than this I just can't imagine a Ducati as a V4 and I can currently buy to anybody I want so I think you have me sold on this one
Never riden a bike with a clutch. Isn't it the same as a car? Release clutch add throttle?? Edit: lol just realized you mean start it and not start going from a stop lol. I do that too when i drive a car, good habit to have
Late Massimo Tamburini was chief designer of Ducati. That SSSA was very likely inspired by Honda NR750, because Honda NR750 already had three things that Ducati 916 had: underseat exhaust, split head lights and of course the single sided swingarm.
Feel like I'm watching Ducanoob 👀. But I love it! I own a 2020 Supersport S and it's a 939 sport touring bike with an emphasis on sport. Full Oihlins, Brembo, up and down quick shift and an adjustable windshield but with Panigale esq looks and a more upright seating position. I'm also in love with her. I would like to see you take one of these for a spin and see your thoughts in comparison though.
@@wyomatt A full system by Akra is 5k. If I'm not mistaken, there are slip on options available for this bike. There's slip ons for the v4, so I don't see why there wouldn't be for this. That said, Termignoni lists a slip on for the v4 at 2k, so it's probably still not going to happen. As I commented on the video you're referring to, costs aside, putting a full system on this thing would be way out of their collective expertise. Watch the Chase on two wheels wbr video where they put a full system on a Panigale. So much shit had to be removed for that install.
My boy, I know you don't live the drive by wire but I don't think you can downshift automatically without a clutch unless you have that feature. I don't believe they make the clutchess downshift without drive by wire because it has to rev match and pause the power during downshift and it can't do that if it's mechanical. That's what I recall reading. But if I'm wrong then my bad. But in positive that's the information that I read before.
My 959 feels weird in first gear on the sport mode too. When I switch it into the race mode the computer limitations on the throttle are gone and gives you the full power you know it has in first.
Tell me Why I randomly strolled into this video because I’m shopping for one and before the intro I seen him I the mirror and I thought “if only this review was made by my papa yamminoob”. Then I had a sense of bliss when I heard his voice and seen the intro lol my inner kid was smiling 😇
I’ve had mine a year and a half now and I absolutely love it. It’s the most practical every day commuter bike. It’s got such a usable powerband, but still is plenty sporty enough to keep up with the DOC Panagale boys in the twistes.
Agreed. I love my Ducati Supersport S and it has really comfortable ergos while still being really sporty. Perfect street bike IMO. Yam needs to review.
V2 or L2 are acceptable. Strip the bike and you’ll see why ducati calls it an L twin. It’s a 90 degree V and it’s oriented in the bike like a slightly canted L. They called it v2 for family nomenclature reasons. For the record the v4 is actually oriented in the bike like a V so L4 wouldn’t have made sense.
watched your vid from start to end. I am complimenting this bike as a next purchase. I have a duc monster and gxsr1000. It wasn’t till of the end of the vid I noticed you have hardly any traffic where you ride, awesome.... or you must have rode rode well early one morning, lol!!!
A very well narrated video. You make a compelling argument. I would say for street-focused biking, competitors are the Tuono Factory, Ducati's own Supersport and the new Aprilla RS 660. Any thoughts?
Great review as always. I’d want one if I didn’t already have a like-new 1199. But that green light on the dash is driving me crazy. That means neutral on the other hundred bikes I’ve been on.... Oh and 195hp is definitely not “annoying” ;)
The 2018 CBR1000RR has more HP and Torque than the V2 and cost a little less. The Suzuki 750 also comes to mind. Now the the Ducati V2 is beautiful but uncomfortable.
yammie i got a 748 and just watching this video i can tell it's so similar to the panigale. I love her even if shes not the fastest in the world...Cause shes the prettiest lololol
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Yammie, I had an r3 and now have a Daytona, and am considering a pani after a duke 790. How different is the baby pani from the Daytona?
Love them Ducati
Ducati 4 life!
does it have a bliper stock?never mind..lol..i should wait to watch the whole video lol
That 😢ELevator e~battery Guy Got😮CharcoaL'D😢.
No other major sportbike maker builds so much soul into their bikes, or even comes close.
Ducati has matured beautifully.
As much as I like Ducati... MV is the real deal when you talk about soul.
Well, you shod try Aprilia
@@agniforma2340 man i was so close to buying an mv in 07 but i didnt...love the MV agusta but ducati are so sweet also...really looking hard at a v2
@@willl7780 I love the Ducati character with the V-Twin, trellis frame, dry clutch.. You don't have these anymore. And esthetically in my eyes at least, Ducati is lacking for the past 20 years.. Ducati design peaked with the 916, first generation Monster 900, and the old square headlight Supersport.. These were all in the 90s and were masterpieces. Anything after them from Ducati hasn't convinced me unfortunately
And remember, being looked at--drawing attention to yourself--is a safety feature as a motorcyclist.
The nut-frying is also a feature. It's so squids don't breed.
Michael Moretti Moto Guzzi?
Underrated comment..😂
You forgot to say that it's red and that the purchase of a brand new one comes with a year's supply of deluxe chocolate biscotti
😂😂😂
Also vagina. Lifetime supply of free vagina.
🤌🤌🤌
My dealership loaned me one of these yesterday while my bike was serviced. Really really impressed. Ducati have found the perfect balance between fast and fun - just the right amount of street displacement, great handling and reasonably comfortable for a sport bike. And as beautiful as any Panigale. I owned it’s bigger brother (V4 S) and would easily buy this bike over it any day. Any more for this and you get all track fun and too much (aka boring) for the street. This one hits it down the middle perfectly. Well done Ducati!
I have an 899 and considering picking up a V4 very soon. What did you like better about the V2 over the V4s you had?
I Know Football I think it really depends on what you want to use it for, and your riding style. I do 99% street riding with a few track days a year to learn how to go faster. The V4 is blisteringly fast, which makes it really exciting to ride if you have the room to excel accelerate hard but otherwise gives you big bike syndrome. You just feel like you’re holding it back all the time, with it being unhappy below 50 and just starting to come alive as you head north of 90 mph. Don’t get me wrong - awesome awesome bike. Did 11,000 miles on mine before I traded it in. But in the end too much for the street, because it just starts to get fun at speeds well in excess of any common speed limits. Another real issue for me was the heat off the V4 - if I rode for hours at a time I literally had burns on my right calf and thigh no matter what protection I wore. The V2 felt as nimble as the V4, but it’s engine gives you far better low speed grunt and you can use so much more of it’s potential that it ends up being way more fun to ride. Think I could probably rip faster on the V2 at the track too, provided the straights weren’t too long. I totally get the mentality of I want the biggest, but if you’re primarily a street rider the V2 is a case of less is more. Anyway - a great dilemma to have. Good luck in your choice!
Scott L definitely felt that during my test ride! Says the same thing. Over 100 the bike is awesome. Below 100, felt like I could crack my Panigale and feel like I was getting excitement. The V4 felt buttery smooth shifting, turning and great dampening without feeling too soft and unstable. I may keep both but I don’t ride enough to keep both
Most of the routing of the pipe under the seat is partly due to packaging, coupled with making sure that the pipe lengths from each cylinder is equal when they meet in the cat box under the bike. If they were uneven, the exhaust flow would be slightly compromised, and since the Panigale is designed so uniquely and compact there isn't any other space for the rear exhaust pipe to go, except under your seat. The Panigale is arguably the most complex production bike ever when it comes to its technical design, no other bike has undergone the requirements that the Ducati team managed when they got the original Panigale design brief. It's quite nuts really.
But hey at least in colder weather it doubles as a seat heating feature :)
I reckon it's for older riders, reminding them of the glory days of the 90s and 00s with the glorious Fogarty Superbike noise. The newest litre bikes are sold from the numbers. This bike is bought with the heart, not the head
I just as much fun to ride a smaller bike harder than to lope along frustrates with a big bike knowing ur using at best 30-50 % of its capacity on the road.
I have a 300cc auto scooter forza Honda and I ride that everywhere with the throttle wide open and have a blast. No gears, no clutch. Plus I can fit a carton of piss under the seat when I stagger out of the pub on a Friday night. Cops never look at you twice on a scooter. They just look a think, “poor old cunt.” 👍😁
Over 150hp, you don’t really notice much of difference until 80mph+ speeds when using the gearbox. The average rider on the street doesn’t benefit from cutting edge horsepower. Now if you are lazy with shifting, then yes, extra torque helps but the V2 already has better mid range torque than many 4 cylinder bikes.
I like it for the styling, performance, and exclusivity. It's the best looking bike for sale, doesn't need RPMs to reach the powerband which makes it street worthy, and isn't a Japanese bike. I'm planning on at least test driving one. Top three bikes along with MT-10 which I like for the value and CBR1000RR-SP which I like for proven reliability but this V2 is number one on my list.
One thing sim racing has taught me is that big power isn't always the most fun on track. You want something with a balance between the power, chassis, and driver capability. The more power you have, the less time you spend on the throttle and the more time you spend on the brakes. By reducing power a bit, you get to spend less time trying to slow the car/bike down for the next corner.
I’ve been riding for 53years, just got my 2020 Ducati Panigale V4s, with a full Titanium Akropovic, oh what a absolutely exciting thrilling elegant ride !
Read the fucking room. This video is on the panigale v2.
@@TheJoker-gg8hcbro chill tf down
This is Yammie's gift to himself for having ridden a certain bike boot monster.
He was right to start off this video in the "tow away zone" because this bike is FIRE 🔥🔥🔥
Well said : "The Ducati is what happens when you focus on fundamentals." They should use this as a slogan. :-)
Tbh I kinda like that. Reasonable fast bike. It's Red
After having a zx6r and now a Daytona 657r, I gotta say, the "upper middleweight" bikes are my absolute favorites. This Ducati V2 is a dream!
yeah, the extra 50ish hp from liter bikes are not worthy usable even on track
it’s red
@@Tonyx.yt. try saying that to the TT riders 👀
@@1AOR1 TT is for suicidal wishes
I ride a 959, I considered getting on a waitlist for the V2 before I bought the 959. I’m glad I didn’t wait because I’d miss some serious riding time. I’ve clocked 6500 miles in 7 months because I just can’t stop riding it.
The “small” panigale is an amazing bike.
Everything you described is exactly how I feel about my 959. When you're stuck in rush hour the heat is almost unbearable 😢🔥
try a 1098 haha
@@hoopla7616 no thanks I don't want to die
@@JW-je3gz if its over 82°f I don't even ride my 1199
Obviously we’re sitting right over a head pipe but does your water also run hot? My 1199 shoots up to 220-225 in any sort of traffic jam
"$16,500 is a lot of money for a bike".
Me in Denmark: "$47,400! Fuuuuuu......!"
As a Norwegian i relate ;c; la oss bli deprimert sammen
really? The V2 is only $23,000 in Australia
@@bruceinnawoods3610 yes really… we have a 25% sale tax.. in addition to close to 50% tax
In India it costs 2000000 rupees
Yup. It's costly.
That's insane I'd move
No bike, I repeat No bike sounds like a Ducati. There sound is Very unique. Once you hear one. You will never forget it. Like Harley Davidson have a unique sound as well.
it may not sound like ducati...but i think benelli has best bike sounds ...which are uniqure and often better thn ducatis sound.....
@@rapmonsterislove5158 Chinese bike
You never hear a TL1000S...
Siv Vinod he might be talking about the early 2000s triples which were pre-Chinese benelli
This is the real Ducati Biscotti
In the Ducati R&D laboratory:
Luigi: Should we put a heated seat on the Pentagali?
Mario: Nooo!!! We just route the exhaust under the seat and Boom! A heated seat and we save weight!
It really is a great feature during the colder riding months in Michigan!
Ever since the 848. The mid size supersport ducati has been my favorite/dream bike to own. That would be the ONLY supersport I would ever want.
BELLISSIMO!!
I'm a few years late to this comment, but as the owner of a 748s and (hopefully this week) new owner of a 2023 brand new v2 I fully agree. I love the new V4, but I'll still pivk a v2 because even though I don't live far from the german Autobahn, there still aren't many opportunities to fully unleash the v4 and the V2 is more than enough :)
Yam, I think something you seem to ignore is the fact that we are all people and sometimes a bike just speaks to a person. It doesn’t always have to be “streetable” or have a specific purpose that you have to use it for. That’s a big part of the liter bike market. You seem to always need a reason and logic behind what you ride but it just isn’t the case. I’m super happy on my R1 and I exclusively ride on the street as of right now (mainly just cause I’m not close to a track and it’s still pretty expensive) but the point is that yes the V2 may be a logical choice for a lot of people but it doesn’t mean it’s the right choice for people.
They did an amazing job packaging a streetable sport bike. They managed to find that sweet spot with a track machine that I wouldn’t mind commuting with. The liter bikes are just too much for that.
Offer more along this line in the expert giveaway and expose more people to the advantages of compromise between power and poise.
One of the reasons I always liked the speed triple is it was just a little bit more than the street but not completely mental like the super duke r or mt10.
Food for thought for future expert bikes. The lesser power but still highly polished machines that are available like the speed triple or Ducati supersport. Even the Honda cb1000r.
You’re talking about 600cc bikes?
@@khazzzzzz speed triple is a 1050 cc
@@khazzzzzz 600cc is the worst sport bikes for the street. they lack any power under 8k rpm with the combination of aggressive riding position and overall small and compact size makes them very frustrating experience on the street. They're pure race bikes. Al least 1000cc superbikes come with nice features and electronics and their torque down low makes them usable on the street.
I had r6 before I got on my r1 and the r1 feels like honda Goldwing in comparison. Not even for free I would ride 600cc on the street again.
This whole “too much power for the road” shit is sooo stupid.. they are motorbikes, pretty much all of them are too fast for the road, might as well get the best one.. cough cough bmw s1000rr.
Anton Newman... I know what you mean. 1199 rider here, and I looked at a 600 as a potential little brother but in 2 minutes I wanted off it. It had twin exit cans under the seat and sounded sweet, nice and loud, but felt totally gutless until 10k, at which point its just a cop caller.
@Yammie Noob, the throttle on Ducati RBW benefits greatly from a throttle spacer. Once installed, set your mapping with *Throttle response* on “Race” but EBW (Engine Brake Control) set on 3 (minimum engine braking). This keeps the butterfly’s open and softens the off / on response on the crack of the throttle. My V2 is absolute perfection now. Lastly, If you can’t shift into neutral you probably need to bleed the clutch. Panigale is notorious with air entrainment on the clutch MC, even with new bikes.
Love V2’s and Triple’s. V2’s have great torque with Triples giving you torque and high rpm similar to a V4.
I race a 959, love this platform. 160 hp is a dream number - throw it in the dyno and enjoy 135 hp at the rear wheel
I really wish Ducati would bring back the family of Streetfighters like when they had the 848 and 1098. A V2 Streetfighter would be an amazing commuter bike, I feel the V4 has too much power to be truly practical for every day use. I’d sell my Supersport and my SF848 in a heartbeat to consolidate down to a SF V2. Hopefully the Bologne bois see the V2 sales (sold out already everywhere) and see the trend towards commuter use and make an SF family again.
I think that bike is called the Hypermotard 950. Same engine as this bike, full upright comfort and amazing handling. Just not the prettiest.
@@Scootir185 There are even more choices actually. There are Monsters with 821cc with 109hp and 1200cc monster with 140hp. Then there is hypermotard and if you add another V2 Streetfighter in the mix, it might be too much competition with it's own models.
Hopus All excellent points. Hopefully they’ll give it a try - I’d far rather have a V2 Streetfighter than either Monster myself. Too dated and consistently weird foot placement. But hey that’s me. Let’s keep our fingers crossed they’ll make the move.
KTM’s big bikes are all V Twins. 1090, 1190, and 1290. LC8 V twin. A really fun engine. They’ve been using it and upgrading it for years now. Same engine in their RC8 race bike that has been wining lately. Give it a test ride sometime.
I’m a little biased, I ride a 1290 SAR. I just like V twins and parallel twins.
Scott L the Hyper 950 has an almost 36” seat height and features the same 937cc engine as my Supersport. Rider ergos and body triangle are very different.
Great review Yammie what an awesome bike for a "giveaway". Love how you highlight how well balanced the overall offering is. Would love to see you ride an MV Agusta f3 800 in a comparison to this bike as i feel that the MV represents a direct competitor to this bike.
The best motorcycle journalist reporting today, bar none. Keep up the good work 😃
Totally agree, V2 with 155hp stock is not bad at all, especially when you start modifying it and losing 20 more LB , it’s a really quick bike
I had a 2009 848. Hard saddle, hard on the wrists, and boy that hot seat. All worth it.
To be fair, there is nowhere else to put an exhaust pipe in the case of a vtwin as the rear cylinder is under your crotch. You can find wraps/coatings and use water wetter for heat management, and also wearing riding pants helps.
The Ducati 848/1098 is absolutely the most beautiful motorcycle ever made in my eyes
916/996: *Am I a joke to you?*
@@budyeddi5814 Oops 😳
Still got my 848evo white with red trim, love the trellis frame ducs
These bikes need throttle spacers installed to make the actuation feel more direct. Its a cheap mod but it has made the biggest difference for me on my 899.
ive read about them being a good upgrade for years . got a new v4 , isntalled them , didnt make much difference .
@@CunningStuntsGoFast they may have solved the throttle play issue on the v4. On older panigales there was about 1 degree of free play which made the throttle feel delayed and detached.
@@Tach_yon no the v4 had the same amount of play as my other ducatis did , i owned the 1199 and the 1199 s before . i always read everybody is so happy with it , and i didnt . good for you you like it but i didnt feel the difference once i was on the bike
Any plans on ever featuring an Aprilia ?
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Tuono would be such a great expert bike, also would love to see Yammie do a track day on a V4R Factory
Why would he feature trash?? 🗑
Michael Moretti dude just shut up. You’re talking about shit you have no experience in.
@Michael Moretti Now there is the RS 660, unveiled this month ;)
30 years of little Panigale and big Panigale, man where have I been !
But Papa Yam, is it as refined as the Iron Screaming 883 Eagle Harley?
Ducati describe it both ways, a V twin and also Type: Superquadro L-twin
Displacement: 955cc
Bore x stroke: 100 x 60.8 mm
Maximum power: 155 horsepower @ 10,750 rpm
In 2001 I bought the revives GSX-R1000. It was the beast for that year. Had 145hp to the wheel. 😁 times have changed.
To me it's all about the ride! It doesn't mater whether it's a 50cc scooter or a liter bike as long as you have fun riding, that's all that matters
unless you're riding in a group, then you should all have something that gets to highway speeds so people don't get left behind
True, true! Unless you plan ahead and everyone is on something equivalent!
"a lot more pure than the V4"...having foolishly sold my 1199 'scalpel', that comment has just persuaded me to buy the V2. Great review. Thanks.
I have owned a monster 1200s. Similar power characteristics to the Panigale V2. Love how you can see part of the exhaust through the fairing. Just like Lambos or Ferrari’s I like to see the motor. Monster for the street, Panigale hanging in my living room wall! V2 perfect track bike but not a commuter bike.
That bike looks so nice, always loved the v-twin sport bikes!
The superlatives just kept comin’!!! You guys were repeating yourself and ran out of words to laud this bike. It feels like we all forgot what a motorcycle is supposed to provide us - an exhilarating experience. In the race to add horsepower, we lost site of rideability. Thanks Ducati for reminding us what the experience is SUPPOSED to be about. Who needs 200++ horsepower.
Yamwah! Awesome review of bike on open roads and in the burbs...would have liked to see the Austin city ride in peak hour traffic and hear if you still love it?
It’s interesting to me how different bikes hit other people’s desire points. You said you think the Ducati ride by wire system is poor and far from the r1 or r1m, but I’ve read and seen so many people absolutely bash Yamaha for not having a system that competes against all the other super bikes with a fake feeling throttle. I’m not in any way picking on your opinion. Being a Ducati guy and owning a v4s, I find Ducati’s design very intuitive and gives real time feedback. I have also owned r1’s, a Daytona 750, speed triple 1200rs, and many others. Being a racer or both car and bikes, I always was skeptical of electronics taking over and losing the feel of the automobile or bike. Owning corvette Z06’s, Subaru sti’s, panigales, r1’s, etc…, I haven’t lost any joy, laptimes, or trust in the process.
now this is a literal red-hot drop dead gorgeous motorcycle
V2.’s and triples easier to work on vs V4’s. Do not buy a V4 out of warranty until been around longer with more parts available
I have an 899 with the Termignoni upgrade and the factory upmap. All modern bikes suffer from poor fueling at low rpms due to Euro4/5 restrictions. An ECU flash will completely solve that problem.
Its a good bike. We all know it. U over sold it and now everyone hates it! Thanks a lot yammie
I appreciate the knowledge on the Panigale V2 Yammie!👍🏾
YAM you should get yourself over the the isle of man TT next year. I know you have the money so what's stopping you? Best thing you'll ever see in your life! Love from Newcastle england 😁
this Ducati looks amazing , but I was enjoying the scenery more than the bike ;)
I have a 2018 959 panigale, you bring up alotta good points. Sometimes j do wanna upgrade, but then i realize i have plenty power on the streets
Totally agree... Normal people like you/me, not the expert skilled track rider don't need a 200HP bike... This more then enough, and even more then most riders need... Next year this is gonna be me track bike, can't wait!!
Bernd DasBrot for the street this is to much, I agree... But on track, its not to much, its handleble!
I run expert/advanced pace at track days and race in CMRA. I still don’t want 200HP lol
I grew up when the 916 was popular and being a colleague I myself I used to follow Scott Russell on a zx7r which I used to own one. That was a really fast motorcycle and had much less horsepower than this I just can't imagine a Ducati as a V4 and I can currently buy to anybody I want so I think you have me sold on this one
You can tell he's a triumph boi, he pulls in the clutch when it's in neutral to start it
Not a Suzuki boy i say. I think he get that habit from riding Hayabusa
Never riden a bike with a clutch. Isn't it the same as a car? Release clutch add throttle??
Edit: lol just realized you mean start it and not start going from a stop lol. I do that too when i drive a car, good habit to have
That's how I always start my bikes. If you pull the clutch the clutch plates are lighter on the starter motor, so easier starts
That’s how I start all motorcycles to save the starter. Also it’ll start easier if your battery is on the low charger side.
Its crazy y'all are giving it away. Y'all should keep one, its so badass
Very good real life review - that's much better than just another track-bike review - Thanks!
i just love ducati panigale cuz the sounds and looks just stunning!!!!!
Late Massimo Tamburini was chief designer of Ducati. That SSSA was very likely inspired by Honda NR750, because Honda NR750 already had three things that Ducati 916 had: underseat exhaust, split head lights and of course the single sided swingarm.
Competes with Mv Agusta's F3 800 DIRECTLY. Good video though. Cheers.
FYI by shifting at 8000 rpm you are only getting around 115hp out of that motor
he is trying to be nice because bike is not his and still in break-in period
After watch this makes me want a v2 even more. Hopefully I can get one soon, looking to upgrade from my Sv650s.
Bikes are about dreams and emotions and Ducati does make you dream
I have the 959, and yes people look at you, but not as much as when I ride my 1990 vfr400 nc30.
Now that does get attention 👌
And I’m here admiring when I can’t even ride a bike 😍😂😂
Feel like I'm watching Ducanoob 👀. But I love it! I own a 2020 Supersport S and it's a 939 sport touring bike with an emphasis on sport. Full Oihlins, Brembo, up and down quick shift and an adjustable windshield but with Panigale esq looks and a more upright seating position. I'm also in love with her. I would like to see you take one of these for a spin and see your thoughts in comparison though.
i looking into buying a supersport 2018. how are the mirrors? i heard they're rubbish... and almost unbearable. can't see a thing
Thanks Yam, now I need a Ducati
Forget the Duke 390
Are we finally going to see a Termignoni make an appearance on the channel or is this just getting another Leo or Akra?
All the Ramen🍜 on the Sky He said hes not putting a system on it because they are $5k
@@wyomatt A full system by Akra is 5k. If I'm not mistaken, there are slip on options available for this bike. There's slip ons for the v4, so I don't see why there wouldn't be for this. That said, Termignoni lists a slip on for the v4 at 2k, so it's probably still not going to happen.
As I commented on the video you're referring to, costs aside, putting a full system on this thing would be way out of their collective expertise. Watch the Chase on two wheels wbr video where they put a full system on a Panigale. So much shit had to be removed for that install.
The first six minutes say it all. I don't think I've ever heard you that excited to do a first ride.
My boy, I know you don't live the drive by wire but I don't think you can downshift automatically without a clutch unless you have that feature. I don't believe they make the clutchess downshift without drive by wire because it has to rev match and pause the power during downshift and it can't do that if it's mechanical. That's what I recall reading. But if I'm wrong then my bad. But in positive that's the information that I read before.
Get mine in December. We’re alittle behind down under🇦🇺 lol
IF you had to choose between the V2 and the Hypermotard 950SP; which one would be your choice and why?
I need Hayabusa vs v2
Discord gang eyy!!!
My 959 feels weird in first gear on the sport mode too. When I switch it into the race mode the computer limitations on the throttle are gone and gives you the full power you know it has in first.
Perfect beginning bike
.... actually its a turbo hybusaaa
I couldn’t disagree more.
@@Bamwich i couldn't disagree more with your humor
@@fenser So i laughed and you didn't? sounds like I win and you lose. Thanks for the heads up.
Tell me Why I randomly strolled into this video because I’m shopping for one and before the intro I seen him I the mirror and I thought “if only this review was made by my papa yamminoob”. Then I had a sense of bliss when I heard his voice and seen the intro lol my inner kid was smiling 😇
I'd love to see you review the Supersport.
I’ve had mine a year and a half now and I absolutely love it. It’s the most practical every day commuter bike. It’s got such a usable powerband, but still is plenty sporty enough to keep up with the DOC Panagale boys in the twistes.
Agreed. I love my Ducati Supersport S and it has really comfortable ergos while still being really sporty. Perfect street bike IMO. Yam needs to review.
You look like rasputin lol
I can already see how much you're going to love Aprilia's new 660 platform. I know I am.
Unless they stupidly ask more money than the bmw s1000rr as well..
@@Bamwich I've heard rumours of a $12000 USD price tag, but who knows?
No mancape bs and actually a good review of the bike! Im pressing like on this one :)
Keep up the great content yam man
Can we have a moto2 vs this V2?
best beginner bike?
19 miles on the bike... That's within the break-in period right?
I love the V2! Thinking positive thoughts that this bike will be mine.....❤️🏍
I agree. You buy a bike that you like the looks, and that you would enjoy riding.
I love this reviews from you man
wow downtown has changed so much. I just moved to Austin. Wish it still looked like it did in this video
Good Lord, that's a sexy bike. And I love the sound a twin makes on hard pulls.
V2 or L2 are acceptable. Strip the bike and you’ll see why ducati calls it an L twin. It’s a 90 degree V and it’s oriented in the bike like a slightly canted L. They called it v2 for family nomenclature reasons. For the record the v4 is actually oriented in the bike like a V so L4 wouldn’t have made sense.
watched your vid from start to end. I am complimenting this bike as a next purchase. I have a duc monster and gxsr1000. It wasn’t till of the end of the vid I noticed you have hardly any traffic where you ride, awesome.... or you must have rode rode well early one morning, lol!!!
A very well narrated video. You make a compelling argument. I would say for street-focused biking, competitors are the Tuono Factory, Ducati's own Supersport and the new Aprilla RS 660. Any thoughts?
ducati : its a beginner bike
yam : expert only
Great review as always. I’d want one if I didn’t already have a like-new 1199. But that green light on the dash is driving me crazy. That means neutral on the other hundred bikes I’ve been on.... Oh and 195hp is definitely not “annoying” ;)
The cbr is the only thing that competes with this HP wise really
Hi just turn traction control down to 1 anything higher and your in reduced power mode
Good starter bike?? Looking to get one for my birthday in April
V4 or V2? The v4 is my dream but the v2 is less expensive and apparently kinda simmilar
The 2018 CBR1000RR has more HP and Torque than the V2 and cost a little less. The Suzuki 750 also comes to mind. Now the the Ducati V2 is beautiful but uncomfortable.
yammie i got a 748 and just watching this video i can tell it's so similar to the panigale. I love her even if shes not the fastest in the world...Cause shes the prettiest lololol
I love that 748/916/996 bodystyle
The clutch feels weird because that fluid needs to be flushed. Takes 5 minutes and makes a huge difference.