Back in the Victorian times they used to build a water tank into the chimmney above a fireplace. There was a tap by the side of the chimmney for baths by the fire in the front room(no bathrooms see).
Yes we always had a stand pipe on top of the hot water cylinder which if it got really hot, the water came out of pipe and sounded like horses galloping on the roof
So glad to see you are going the coppiced willow route I have 8 coppiced willow trees in my garden and cant wait to find land I can afford to for field to farm like you are and expand my willow coppice
@@GordonHolian clearly you dont have a wood burner if you think anyone is burning willow wood and not drying it all wood has the same moisture content once dried to burn, thats the whole point of seasoning it!
You can still get stoves with a boiler, probably just a different type of system? I am not sure but you can still buy them and get them fitted. I'm getting a thermal store with mine when I get the money for it.
It feeds 10 radiators loverly Either side of the fire I have installed heat bricks from disused electrical storage heaters ,these give of heat when the fire goes out
I’ve got a log burning boiler with gravity circulation.. Also have a woodland . Wood burning is hard work in cutting chopping carrying, but it’s free ! Also my boiler stove CAN be used in a system pressurised to 1.5 bar, just like gas or oil fired boilers. And yes, it does have expansion tanks and a safety valve, so all the hysteria about boiler stoves being bombs is twaddle if they are properly installed.
Clueless. It's about complete control. Oh and electric cars were never meant to be a genuine alternative, they don't want people to have private transport full stop.
We just bought a back boiler stove for our house in rural Romania Ours is a closed system though Will be getting installed next Tuesday. In laws already bought us about 3mc of firewood to get us started so lots of splitting to be done!
My mum lives in Romania in Targu Mures. I have an ancient backboiler in the house here in England that used to work quite well, a bit too old now, we haven't used it in years, I have seen videos of people coiling copper pipe around the flue as a lot of heat goes up the chimney, also, in Romania they have chempes, (masonry stoves) that keep hold of the heat a lot better,
@@emma24ism No way. I live there too! lol. Well, in one of the villages - I was actually in the city this morning. Small world, eh? I remember seeing a video on TH-cam of a plumber upgrading a gas fire place that had a back boiler - I thought that was a cool idea. We've had our stove running for about a week now and so far so good.
Can i ask why you planted Willow to coppice? Willow tends to be a low calorific heating wood, it takes around two years to season due to its water content. Ash is a far superior firewood and grows quick too, can be coppiced and burnt either freshly cut or seasoned.
What u do in your own private property is your business and ur business alone u can even service your own boiler as long as you don't go near the gas supply. U can fit a new, programme board and repair water leaks if your competent in doing so, rentals are a lot different and u shouldn't touch a gas boiler except to adjust the settings. I use Chinese diesel air heaters to heat my home.
I understand installing it yourself but how do get away with running it? Presumably you could be ordered to remove it if reported that youve built one? Or do you argue that because youve mitigated the safety risk you're allowed.
Another reason calling these back boilers explosive is dumb is because we have unvented (basically mains fed water immersion heaters here in the uk too that are not open to atmosphere at all and just have a t and p valve screwed into them actually if you used a couple of old unvented cylinders not only would you have two pressure relief valves but you could also have a dc element in one and an ac element in the other so you could use solar pv to heat one or mains to heat the other in an emergency and use the back boiler in the winter for both it would be much more thermally efficient than an open but insulated tank
You evidently don't know much physics. Any heating element is resistive, irrelevant if its ac or dc. Also, unvented systems have expansion vessels for safety. All unvented systems must be designed 'failsafe' to comply with British law. I love it how idiots feel comfortable to talk sh!t and offer terrible and dangerous advice with absolute impunity. That's half the reason why many of these traditional systems have been phased out - people are just too stupid to manage them correctly.
@@FieldtoFarm_UK It only pre dates the hard pushed climate change agenda.(post covid) Your local council and our government signed up to Agenda 21 back in 1992. Whilst everyone was busy partying. It's been a long time coming this climate b*ll*x.
yup firewood puts out Co2 so let's get back on the grid, and run off the local coal plant, and now put carbon dioxide, nitro oxide, sulfur dioxide, whatever heavy metals were in that coal, and all the iddy bits of coal itself that turn into little shards that bury into your lungs, your waters and land. but sure, firewood is killing the planet, I'm amazed all the humans from the neolithic to the 1800s didn't turn the earth into a smog filled wasteland with all their log burning!
And the tree absorbs that carbon in it's life time! When they don't make more use of regenerative agriculture to suck carbon out of the atmosphere then you do wonder why? Some land isn't fit to grow much if anything on with mainstream methods. Too depleted. Regenerative agriculture has brought such land back into productive use, even reversing desertification in some cases and it sucks excess carbon up and is cheap to do. We can do far more than we currently do to slow or halt climate change but we aren't doing it. Is that incompetence? Corrupt interests? A mixture(probably) or something else?
Back in the Victorian times they used to build a water tank into the chimmney above a fireplace. There was a tap by the side of the chimmney for baths by the fire in the front room(no bathrooms see).
Love your channel - inspiring me to do the same in Estonia.
Yes we always had a stand pipe on top of the hot water cylinder which if it got really hot, the water came out of pipe and sounded like horses galloping on the roof
Anyone asks, say its a water cooled fire.
Thats exactly how they cool motors and engines on model and full sized boats.
So glad to see you are going the coppiced willow route I have 8 coppiced willow trees in my garden and cant wait to find land I can afford to for field to farm like you are and expand my willow coppice
Iv got some mature trees I coppiced 5 years ago, they almost ready to be logged again 🤣🤣
Willow is rubbish to burn. Its got one of the highest water contents!
@@GordonHolian clearly you dont have a wood burner if you think anyone is burning willow wood and not drying it
all wood has the same moisture content once dried to burn, thats the whole point of seasoning it!
You can still get stoves with a boiler, probably just a different type of system? I am not sure but you can still buy them and get them fitted. I'm getting a thermal store with mine when I get the money for it.
I have a Broseley Hercules 12 kw multi fuel Burner
Had it for 20 years
I collect dry wood off cuts from building sites
And heat my house for nothing
It feeds 10 radiators loverly
Either side of the fire I have installed heat bricks from disused electrical storage heaters ,these give of heat when the fire goes out
I’ve got a log burning boiler with gravity circulation.. Also have a woodland . Wood burning is hard work in cutting chopping carrying, but it’s free ! Also my boiler stove CAN be used in a system pressurised to 1.5 bar, just like gas or oil fired boilers. And yes, it does have expansion tanks and a safety valve, so all the hysteria about boiler stoves being bombs is twaddle if they are properly installed.
Because they can't tax wood. Same reason they held back electric cars for so long.
Clueless. It's about complete control. Oh and electric cars were never meant to be a genuine alternative, they don't want people to have private transport full stop.
I Agree, definitely nothing to do with the oil and gas industry.
Nonsense. You're paranoid. You'll pay more tax on firewood, if you buy it, than on oil or gas, doofus! Your reasoning isn't really world class is it.
Smart meters swindle yt
We just bought a back boiler stove for our house in rural Romania
Ours is a closed system though
Will be getting installed next Tuesday.
In laws already bought us about 3mc of firewood to get us started so lots of splitting to be done!
We have an expansion vessel and a pressure relief valve as well
My mum lives in Romania in Targu Mures. I have an ancient backboiler in the house here in England that used to work quite well, a bit too old now, we haven't used it in years, I have seen videos of people coiling copper pipe around the flue as a lot of heat goes up the chimney, also, in Romania they have chempes, (masonry stoves) that keep hold of the heat a lot better,
Thanks you. Very sensible. Greetings from North Carolina
@@emma24ism No way. I live there too! lol.
Well, in one of the villages - I was actually in the city this morning. Small world, eh?
I remember seeing a video on TH-cam of a plumber upgrading a gas fire place that had a back boiler - I thought that was a cool idea.
We've had our stove running for about a week now and so far so good.
🎉🎉 so good well done!
I was in a house where the old back boiler exploded. The plumbers made a mistake when they put the new system in. God saved us.
Great video, UK law is a joke isn't it! Do you have a video showing the sand thermal mass behind your burner?
No but I can make one 🤣😁
Not law's, just legislation which you don't have to consent to 👍
@@FieldtoFarm_UK yes please that’d be great
A pleasure once more, Many thanks
Thank you too!
Our ancestors used to use cookers with wood used to heat the water and radiators.many central systems have a pressure valve
Pressure release valve is irrelevant if the escape route is frozen overnight in winter.
Can i ask why you planted Willow to coppice? Willow tends to be a low calorific heating wood, it takes around two years to season due to its water content. Ash is a far superior firewood and grows quick too, can be coppiced and burnt either freshly cut or seasoned.
Coppice means you don't have to plant a new tree once cut down it will renew with loads of new shoots
Also ash tree die back is predicted to kill almost all of them
Is the circulation pump hard on electricity?
Used to use the back boiler behind the coal fire in the 1990s recommisioned it and boy the first hot water for years was rusty as hell.
They need to keep the tax cattle reliant on the "farmer" i.e. the government/utility companies
God forbid you should be self reliant 🙄
Can you put a hand pump on or battery powered pump
What u do in your own private property is your business and ur business alone u can even service your own boiler as long as you don't go near the gas supply. U can fit a new, programme board and repair water leaks if your competent in doing so, rentals are a lot different and u shouldn't touch a gas boiler except to adjust the settings.
I use Chinese diesel air heaters to heat my home.
Yes if the government cant tax you on wood they become deadly unsafe 😅😅😅😅installations
I understand installing it yourself but how do get away with running it? Presumably you could be ordered to remove it if reported that youve built one? Or do you argue that because youve mitigated the safety risk you're allowed.
No all he has to say is mind your own business and go away if he owns the property.
Nice vid .. .. ..
Another reason calling these back boilers explosive is dumb is because we have unvented (basically mains fed water immersion heaters here in the uk too that are not open to atmosphere at all and just have a t and p valve screwed into them actually if you used a couple of old unvented cylinders not only would you have two pressure relief valves but you could also have a dc element in one and an ac element in the other so you could use solar pv to heat one or mains to heat the other in an emergency and use the back boiler in the winter for both it would be much more thermally efficient than an open but insulated tank
You evidently don't know much physics. Any heating element is resistive, irrelevant if its ac or dc. Also, unvented systems have expansion vessels for safety. All unvented systems must be designed 'failsafe' to comply with British law. I love it how idiots feel comfortable to talk sh!t and offer terrible and dangerous advice with absolute impunity. That's half the reason why many of these traditional systems have been phased out - people are just too stupid to manage them correctly.
Are you read for them to go after you for chicken ownership? They are trying to covid 2.0 with bird flu.
Problem is trees allow us to breath, is it sustainable if x by millions of homes?
I would do this if I built a house
They were banned (new installations only) because the expertise to install them safely was lost. They are still widely used in rural communities.
The real reason is all that CO² you're putting into the atmosphere.
The ban pre dates "climate change agenda"
@@FieldtoFarm_UK It only pre dates the hard pushed climate change agenda.(post covid) Your local council and our government signed up to Agenda 21 back in 1992. Whilst everyone was busy partying. It's been a long time coming this climate b*ll*x.
yup firewood puts out Co2
so let's get back on the grid, and run off the local coal plant, and now put carbon dioxide, nitro oxide, sulfur dioxide, whatever heavy metals were in that coal, and all the iddy bits of coal itself that turn into little shards that bury into your lungs, your waters and land.
but sure, firewood is killing the planet, I'm amazed all the humans from the neolithic to the 1800s didn't turn the earth into a smog filled wasteland with all their log burning!
And the tree absorbs that carbon in it's life time! When they don't make more use of regenerative agriculture to suck carbon out of the atmosphere then you do wonder why? Some land isn't fit to grow much if anything on with mainstream methods. Too depleted. Regenerative agriculture has brought such land back into productive use, even reversing desertification in some cases and it sucks excess carbon up and is cheap to do. We can do far more than we currently do to slow or halt climate change but we aren't doing it. Is that incompetence? Corrupt interests? A mixture(probably) or something else?
Plants need carbon