「信義」Forlorn the Fallen

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  • @花_花火
    @花_花火 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This anime is literally a masterpiece, I'm just amazed by how each person can understand this anime in his own way .

  • @xPrincessGarnetXVI
    @xPrincessGarnetXVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Finally...just finally...someone put the feelings and thoughts I have of Johan in a video. I swear...from what I got in this video, I think you and I drew the same conclusion at the end of the series. A lot of people wrote essays that Johan was the devil incarnate, that one of his goals was to torture and torment Anna. They dismiss him as being this untouchable, unmovable Monster. But they are wrong.
    I was very confused about the complexities of Johan's character up until the last handful of episodes. It became very clear to me that Johan was hurting the entire time. Everything he did, even though he was wrong, was for Anna and out of his own pain. In his own twisted way and view on things, he was protecting her. He killed every "parental" figure they had because he was betrayed by every adult figure in his life so far. They kept torturing them, mainly his sister and separating them. So he would kill and runaway from "the monster". Then when Anna found out about the blood on his hands that fateful night, he realized he was now also one of the people who hurt her and wanted to die. He asked her to shoot him and run - in an attempt to finally liberate her from the horrific life they had to lead up until now. But when he was brought back and realized the gravity behind his methods, seeing how terrified Anna was of him - he started to cry. Throughout the series you see that he is trying to wipe everyone who knew of what happened to Anna/him off the face of the earth. He did not want Anna to remember. So when it was revealed she did remember, he mourned. She said "he had a smile but seemed like he was crying. I never seen such an expression on his face before." and then Johan goes on to commit the "perfect suicide." He was ready to die but you can see his conviction began to slip away when Anna forgave him and also in how Tenma was not killing him ruthlessly like he always thought. Johan in his final moments was cracking and finally falling apart. Johan has never shown to take any kind of sick satisfaction from killing unlike all the other serial killers shown being interviewed. Despite his callousness and his lack of care for life - Johan despite how much of a "monster" he was, very clearly had humanity and had love....for his sister most of all.
    To say Johann, despite being hailed as the Monster of the series, had no love or humanity in him and was merely the Devil himself...completely missed the point of the story...
    He was a victim and the world created the beast that consumed him. And with that misguidance came his plan to bloody his hands so that there would no longer be anyone left that would hurt/torture him or Anna. That was his initial plan as a child, them no longer living in fear...
    This show breaks my heart.

    • @dreamiesnoona6423
      @dreamiesnoona6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seriously thank you. I have been scouring the comments to find an interpretations that is resonant with mine. That by the end, we only got to see the bigger monsters that roam about the earth- the monsters that created personas like Johan, Grimmer, Roberto,etc. There is a significant lack of pleasure in his killings and a significant lack of egotism in his ways, which only emphasises his non- identity. I always felt like Johan took the darkness away from Anna, to save her in a way and himself got consumed by it. He took away her painful memories, experiences and made them his own. And by the end of monster, the very people responsible for whatever had happened in their lives had disappeared. That is what Johan was.

    • @xPrincessGarnetXVI
      @xPrincessGarnetXVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dreamiesnoona6423 I wrote a 2 part in depth essay concerning these theories if you'd like to read them.
      I'm relieved you had the same interpretation. I depict them in my own amvs.
      I think the end of the Nameless Monster book is often misunderstood.
      When the Monster known as Johan devours the other Monster that went West, I believe that depicted Johan consuming Anna's inner Monster so that only he was left as the Nameless Monster.
      And he does this when he leaves her behind with the Fortners and gives her a new name, new identity apart from him so she can heal.

    • @dreamiesnoona6423
      @dreamiesnoona6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xPrincessGarnetXVI Yes! I would love to read your interpretations. Wow! I didn't think about the symbolism of Johan eating the other monster. It makes so much sense! Now that you mention it, the book makes even more sense. The ones who made the deal with the monster except the prince did so to gain in selfish ways and so the monster devoured them. Johan did target people who were actually corrupt-minded to carry out his work. He took up personas other than Johan too. But he stopped at Johan. In Munich, we saw he took the name again from a person who had prematurely passed away and he stuck with it. That is just like the prince who made a deal with the monster in order to gain his health. And the monster stuck with the name Johan for Johan is such a good name. I realise I might be stretching it but it just suddenly dawned on me while reading your interpretation.

    • @dreamiesnoona6423
      @dreamiesnoona6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xPrincessGarnetXVI By the way me and my other good friend love your AMVs. It was just a few days ago that we watched it and my friend agrees that you make some of the best AMVs on Monster. I especially love the Running Up the Hill Pt.2. Thank you so much for them!

    • @xPrincessGarnetXVI
      @xPrincessGarnetXVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dreamiesnoona6423 AHH. you and your friend are the sweetest. ;__;
      Thank you both so very much. That AMV happens to be my most favorite of mine. I have plenty of more planned!

  • @chick1000123
    @chick1000123 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    johan loved anna and anna saved him through her forgiveness, the only person who could have given that to him.

  • @vrockchick89
    @vrockchick89 10 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Oh god I am in tears. This is one of my favorite series ever and Johan was my favorite character. So much so that I want to name a son after him, no lie. Thank you so much for the stunning video that shows his point of view. For every story there are two sides, and the show kept making him into this evil monster (hence the name lol) but he was just a lost soul tortured by his own messed up mind.

  • @nightingale5369
    @nightingale5369 8 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This is by far the best AMV of Monster I've seen.

  • @wallywest9257
    @wallywest9257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This was really well edited, you caught the emotion of Johan, even when he never showed any. Probably the best Monster tribute I've come across, well done.

  • @xPrincessGarnetXVI
    @xPrincessGarnetXVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have returned to tell you that I cry every single time I watch this.
    Thank you.

  • @KillianGrenier13
    @KillianGrenier13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You sat alone by the fire, you're so alone
    You're so... you sat alone on the fire, you're so alone
    You're so... you suffered long...
    The lyrics describe Johan to the tee.

  • @astanopasta
    @astanopasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is so beautiful, he isn't some angel but all he did started with wanting to protect his sister, the only person he trusted and felt love for, the betrayal he felt from their mother to even want to choose between her two children
    He had no name and little sense of identity and even lost that to his sister, to stop her from being the monster she was pushed to be, she was traumatised and missed out on a crucial thing Franz Bonaparta said "Human beings can become anything, that's why you must never become monsters".
    Johan thought of Franz as the monster who would come after them, killed people and erased their trail, eventually becoming like the monster he was trying to protect themselves from and told her "Shoot Me"
    _The God of Peace looked into the Mirror and he saw a Devil. "Who could live in peace with a devil?" So he..._

    • @xPrincessGarnetXVI
      @xPrincessGarnetXVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beautifully put. Johan makes me so sad.
      Also hiii it's me this time!!

    • @astanopasta
      @astanopasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xPrincessGarnetXVI OMG HI (⁠。⁠•̀⁠ᴗ⁠-⁠)⁠✧

  • @xAnicsi
    @xAnicsi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Holy shit, I've got goosebumps all over. The final part of this was so breathtaking. For some reason the expression and gestures he makes at 2:00 causes me shivers. It's so powerful. Great job Amy, so happy you completed it. The video is really heartbreaking, though ;__; I LOVE IT! Missed seeing a full video of yours *w*

    • @BJ-jk3ex
      @BJ-jk3ex 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I love this facial expression XD

    • @shinchanshaikat6123
      @shinchanshaikat6123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check my amv th-cam.com/video/ixRrYwY_qrQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @GandalfTheSilver
    @GandalfTheSilver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The emotion of this song accompanying one of the most emotionless apath characters in anime is uncanny.

  • @brendaleiva2792
    @brendaleiva2792 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hi~
    I came to mourn
    My God, this is beautiful, a masterpiece certainly ...
    Monster is a piece sensational no doubt, but .... Johan Johan is so beautiful. Even ruthless whatever it is, I felt the essence of pain, loss, loneliness inside him and that is admirable.
    And sometimes I think that what he did is unforgivable ... Anna always leave it alone, heartbroken ... I mean .... Come on, it's your other half you know?
    Just the two, in the end of the world ... forever.
    you are me and I am you. Always.

  • @scorpio5174
    @scorpio5174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very masterful amv for a masterpiece of a show. I`m tearing up, especially at the part where Johan got shot and you just showed clips of the twins.

  • @melanieboudreau5629
    @melanieboudreau5629 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is my all-time favorite Monster AMV

  • @everdae
    @everdae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes, he was the monster but I can't help but be sad on how his life turned out. Truly one of the greatest antagonist in the history of fiction.

  • @0neredlight
    @0neredlight 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hauntingly beautiful. I wish more amvs were like this with powerful storytelling and not bogged down by effects. Wonderful work!

  • @music0cool
    @music0cool 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Next time you call Johan a monster, just click 2:29. call that child, desperately clinging to his mother's hand a monster.

  • @JazzsVids
    @JazzsVids 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Gosh... that was intense. Very dramatic. Great work!

  • @victorthevictorian
    @victorthevictorian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's so rare to find good Monster AMVs! Thank you so much for this beautiful edit😍🤧

  • @nolongerhooman2341
    @nolongerhooman2341 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Criminally underrated

  • @depasqui
    @depasqui 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've got chills, this is marvelous! Great job!

  • @Auratrice
    @Auratrice 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    omg Amy I LOVE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH FOR THIS. Monster is one of my favorite series (and the manga is probably THE manga for me) and I was always hoping someone would attempt to create a nice amv with it. And you totally nailed it. Thank you. It was extremely moving to say the least. Unspeakably beautiful.

    • @Auratrice
      @Auratrice 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also really appreciate the perspective you put on Johan as written in your description. His character and his story are just moving some hidden parts in the dephts of the soul that empty out the world but still make you feel (????) I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT

  • @shreyashthakur9085
    @shreyashthakur9085 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my fav animes .
    Johan is so cooooooolllllll7ll

  • @struggler3915
    @struggler3915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Masterpiece.

  • @dikshaverma8751
    @dikshaverma8751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is so good

  • @youssefpain
    @youssefpain 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing Amv , Thank You For Making This Amazing Amv , This is One Of My Favorite character :)
    Thanksss

  • @josssar1442
    @josssar1442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monster uno de los mejores animes con uno de los mejores finales

  • @kibina97
    @kibina97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a masterpiece! wow!!

  • @ganDada07
    @ganDada07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is sooo amazing. Thanks for this...😍

  • @t3ban_7
    @t3ban_7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    (البشر متساوون فقط بالموت)
    يوهان ليبرت.

  • @Nerubiar
    @Nerubiar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although the ending might have been disappointing, your amv wasn't. Terrific job!

  • @al-aeynani
    @al-aeynani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very underated.

  • @risuna23
    @risuna23 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this amv so much... it's so beautiful

  • @vishalv5736
    @vishalv5736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Monster , is it Johan or the people who made him that way ??

  • @R0S13_33
    @R0S13_33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johan did really love Anna

  • @purushottamkaushik2170
    @purushottamkaushik2170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love ittt

  • @ImGwerh
    @ImGwerh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amo este video

  • @xGeminii
    @xGeminii 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohmygosh that was sooooo amazing!!!! Love this video!!! * ____ *

  • @beyazilemavi
    @beyazilemavi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work

  • @JokerPapa7
    @JokerPapa7 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!!

  • @jaimoeee
    @jaimoeee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow bruh this shit is beautiful

  • @AnbuNinjaXIII
    @AnbuNinjaXIII 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When does Johan say that darkness greater still quote? At what point in the story? I can't remember.

    • @Onche518
      @Onche518 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When he remembers his past. He says it to Blue Sophie the fat prostitue whom he makes Roberto kill.

  • @prizo4822
    @prizo4822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    anyone still alive in this comment section?

    • @Kaeldri
      @Kaeldri  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doubtful. 😅

    • @xPrincessGarnetXVI
      @xPrincessGarnetXVI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No I die every time I come back here to watch this beautiful piece.

  • @julsw7176
    @julsw7176 5 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @JayceMiles
    @JayceMiles 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    come on dont tell me you weren't tired of this damn show around the part where that doctor is with the kid and johan has nothing to do in the show. i kept clicking the next episode button and yet i didnt see him after the first episodes. phenomenal video nonetheless :)

  • @94KevinVo
    @94KevinVo 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    vary naiseu im on the wrong acc but nice anyways

  • @tomdavid1846
    @tomdavid1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hasta ahora pienso que a Johan le gustaba el dr Tenma 😐