Her waist and hips looked way too small. Not that i mind if she has lost weight but we all know the gorgeous curvy body of Vidya. It just looked fake as hell
Glad someone mentioned this. I felt that something was off with Vidhya. Maybe some editing was done to make her look slim? Or did she lose so much weight that head looks disproportionate. Hands are pudgy compared to slim body.
They are both performing different dance forms. People are more familiar with Kathak dance form, less with Odissi. Thus there cannot be any comparison on whose performance is better.
Watching Kartik Aaryan footwork feels like seeing Tiger Shroff perform stunts - same stuff again and again with slight tweaks which no one really asked for.
Kartik Aryan is outsider he is struggling to establish his career and from start he has clarity what kind of audience he is targeting like bb2 bb3 will also work in tier 2 tier 3 Cities and mass audience will watch bb3
Yes true he has even tried to go outside of this niche created around him.... Chandu Champion was his best work but audience rejected it! So he came back with BB3 which will work it seems... So before blaming Kartik we should also consider that he is an outsider and 2-3 more experiments (flop) will end his movie career!
The issue i believe with kartik aaryan is that choreographers are probably told to make him do a step involving footwork so the song can go viral on reels. This in turn making the quality of the choreography look so poor. Its not his fault just whats being handed to him because hes not a bad dancer in fairness to him
Matching up to Madhuri in terms of dance, expressions and grace is NO JOKE. That's probably why Karan didn't let her dance in Ghar More Pardesiya with Alia
@@sayandas3939 I felt the same but I think it's because it wasn't Madhuri's forte. Even in pukar, contrary to the above observation, she has a problem that a lot of trained singers have singing modern songs, being so deep in their classical art form that they bring that in everything. That's why I feel Sridevi was the perfect dancer for bollywood. She knew Bharatnatyam but never used it in pure form and always mixed it with a casualness that a good but not professionally trained dancer would have
@@sayandas3939yash chopra ne bhi madhuri ko cool dance krne ko kaha tha or karishma ko fiery like karan johar nahi to aag kya dhamaka kr deti madhuri .....ye bade log like yash karan johar sb kisi single person ko aage nhi liklte dekhna chahte
Madhuri is the only person to have received praise from Prabhudeva. I'm so happy you mentioned Priyanka. She dances so well but is severely underrated in that sense
honestly, i love your essays. its a pleasure to watch/ hear such high quality, well-articulated, thoughtfully crafted pieces that give voice to our collective frustrations & rants better than we ever could! :)
Aishwarya is very versatile. She can pull out item songs with complex choreography like crazy kiya re dhoom again robot while she can deliver classical and semi classical in umrao jaan.
Everything feels artificial nowadays in movies. Creativity has dead, colours looks so dull for such a song, background looks so empty, lighting looks like tv serial. Imagine if same thing would have came 15 years back, creative minds would have killed it with presentation.
That's why SLB movies look so great and authentic. Songs like Deewani Mastani was shot in a proper made set with little to no extra digital renderings. Yes the effort is more to shoot them but it is so worth it.
@@dawoodfarooqi988 The colour scheme was so very artificial... And the claustrophobic indoor studio setting while shooting an outdoor scene is just horrible to watch. A decorative wall is not a set
The first thing which I found totally wrong (being a classical dance lover) is vidya is wearing the head crown of odissi whereas the dress style is of Bharatnatyam or Kuchipudi 🫤.
Dola Re Dola is so iconic that the recreation in Rocky aur Rani, was arguably the highlight of that movie (which btw, Ranveer deserves full applause imo). The beats is perfect for a dance face-off and the SLB cinematography is unparalleled.
Am I the only one who thinks that the oddisi dance outfit (of Vidya balan )looks far more stunning and exotic than Madhuri's katthak which looks repetitive and overdone, it's honestly looks straight out of heera Mandi , but I have to say that the set and the colour of red and black looks kinda undone, don't know how to put it , but can't see the richness like Sanjay Leela Bhansali sets
She's wearing a Bharatnatyam dress (with just a headgear from Odissi costume) and has Kucchipudi steps in between. Bollywood is a mess when it comes to mixing artforms! 😂🫠
Even I saw the visual difference between their clothes. Vidya Balans are brighter and vibrant than Madhuris. I have very less understanding of of these art forms and thus out of respect I wouldn’t want to say anything about the dance or their specific attires. But it seems that since Vidya is competing with Madhuri, she has to look more attractive than the latter, and thus vibrancy in her clothes. Maybe that’s the case. Just a guess.
Dance movies with non dancers.. makes absolute 0 sense… especially when we have such amazing talented dancers around… thank you jammy.. finally someone said it!!!
Shobana ma'ams dance for Manichithrathazhu (bhool bhulaiya's original) will forever be the epitome of classical dance I have seen in mainstream cinema. The expressions which she conveys and the grace with which she does it is ❤
The Akshay Salman Face off can never be upped in anyway. They were too funny. I think they had the best time. And I agree that Priyanka is by far an amazing dancer. She was incredible in Pinga and has not been given her due as a smooth dancer as she deserves. I think I will wait for the movie to be released to see the Madhuri Vidhya face off. But You forget that the Madhuri Karishma Face off was favoring Karishma cause her youth and body worked waay better than Madhuri's at that time. You could tell the age and body and Karishma is a very fit person so she gave Madhuri a run for her money in the modern style dance.
The original Bhool Bhulaiya was an amazing psychological thriller and a very good remake to a masterpiece film called Manichitrathazhu. The sequel couldn't care less and made a complete 180 degree turn with the genre and tonality.. psychiatrists were replaced by Tantriks and so on.. The threquel is even more shameless as it thinks the audience is completely foolish and will flock to the theaters just because Vidya is back, Madhuri is in, and budget is high... are they right? Sadly, yes.
i totally agree! i remember watching bhool bhulaiya 2 and not liking it at all because it was only feeding off of the nostalgia of the first movie when it was nowhere near like it, i would’ve appreciated it more if it wasn’t named bhool bhulaiya tbh
@@AnkitGupta-u1n to be fare in all positivity the movie should be watched because of vidya losing a lot of weight and looking a lot fitter and healthier and also for karthik putting on weight and size and looking a lot fitter and healthier. For that health and healthy life support bb3 😉👍
There's nothing original in BB3. It's same low effort content in not even new package. They didn't even get the horror element right. Vidya climbing the walk with Maduri looked hilarious and Madhuri couldn't do the contortion. I hope both Sigham and BB flops. They nothing but remake garbage. Low quality maal. But I know the opposite of it will happen. And people say ott has made audience smart. 🙄
Is it just me overthinking, or this songs is a spoiler?? Vidya in Odissi dance/costume, Madhuri in Kathak (Uttar Pradesh), and since Manjulika is Bengali, so these two are NOT MANJULIKA. Tripti can be! (She's already a Bengali witch in Bulbbul) 😭😭
While I agree that Vidya Balan's dance might seem less dynamic than Madhuri Dixit's in this performance, my observation is that comparing it to 'Dola Re' or 'Pinga' doesn't quite do it justice. In 'Ami Je Tomar 3.0,' Madhuri appears to be performing Kathak (a faster dance form), whereas Vidya Balan seems to be doing Odishi (a comparatively slower dance form), creating a difference in movement. If you look closely, the choreography appears to be the same for both, but the contrast between the two dance styles is visible in small details like hand postures, movements, speed etc because of them actually being in different dance forms.
Ami je tomar 3 looked like it was filmed in green screen. It looked faker than 2007 bhool bulaiya which is saying a lot since this time they had an actual budget too.
This. I was confused why Madhuri and Vidya's glances at each other do not match to where their positions are in a few shots. And it also looks fake as everything seems super polished without any nitty gritty that a real set would have. Oh well, Anwol will tell us about it when the movie releases.
I am a classical dancer and I totally get it when you say starting and finishing of every step shows if the person is learnt classical dancer or just dancing ! So true ! Love this video ❤❤
As a classical dancer myself, I agree with you - you're on point about the observations about Vidya Balan's dance movements. She's definitely done the best she could vs a legendary graceful dancer as Madhuri Dixit. It was unfair to cast them together in the first place. They've probably been extra airbrushed and edited to look way thinner and younger for the storyline. As dancers, it's hard to not spot moves that look incomplete or compare dancers. Nice video!
I agree, and one thing I feel like no one is addressing is that Vidya's choreography was more semi-classical than Madhuri's. Let's start with her outfit - the Bharatanatyam clothes + Odissi hairdo. It seems like no research was done into what kind of dance form she should be doing. Next, the steps - at least we could say that Madhuri's was Kathak but what was given to Vidya? It felt like the choreographer only knew Kathak but got the task to choreograph Vidya's steps too. Vidya's choreography felt like it was made to match with those of Madhuri's Kathak but make it look like Bharatanatyam/Odissi. It was not only unfair to cast them together but give them choreographies of very different levels of classical elements in them.
Very well said. Actually Madhuri is a trained kathak dancer where as Vidya is not a dancer. The saddest part today in Mumbai Film industry is that neither there are trained classical choreographers nor trained classical dance actors. Earlier mostly actresses were trained classical dancer be it Vyjantimalaji, Padmini Ragini ji Kumkum ji etc etc. Nowadays it's totally chaotic. Thank you for your honest review 🙏
Vidya is a trained Bharatnatyam dancer . That's why she is dancing well in the song . Madhuri is a league apart and it's difficult to match her perfect steps on any song
I just realized from Ami Je tomar 3.0 editing & camera work is one of the most important aspect of flim making. It can make look good performance look medicore & vice-verca. Currently Vijay Ganguly is absolutely nailing the editing & camera work in bollywood in every single time.
@@TriedRefusedProductionsYou should have mentioned Rani Mukherjee with Shahid Kapoor in Dil Bole Hadippa. She not only matched Shahid Kapoor's energy but surpassed him in certain moments. She is one of the best dancers in bollywood.
How could you be such of a great analyser? I thought i was the only one to detect the unnatural precision of MD in her dances and the ICONIC DOLA RE DOLA with longer shots, Aishwarya being an underrated dancer and Kat killing the Suraiya too. Yk even Dupatta mera by MD is underrated too. You are a good analyser fr
We all should appreciate vidya mam that she didn't avoid faceoff with madhuri mam like alia did in ghar more pardeshiya .vidya mam knew her weaknesses will be shown but she was ready for that but alia was protected by all bcz they didn't want to expose alia weaknesses so only alia dancing was there in whole song nothing to do with madhuri mam so that ppl can only see, alia dance so well .ppl need to realize all this .
Oh my, your review was so professional and so thorough. You know your stuff. Everything you said was spot on. I am just a dance watcher but I could still see your point. Awesome review. Keep at it ! No wonder it got so many views and so many likes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts ! One of my favorites ( even though not a dance off ) is the choreography done for 'Azeem-O-Shaan Shahenshah' in Jodha Akbar. That whole song sequence feels like a song itself with a beautiful flow. It was on par with Cleopatra's coronation shot in the old classic. That was Ashutosh -AR Rehman and the chorepographer's aesthetics at their best ! In the above Ami Je Tomar BB3 the aesthetics were absent is what I felt. As my guruji , of a different classical art form, always says "is mein saundary nahin.."🙂
THIS is why Anmol has reached where he is! Tell me another TH-camr who has managed to discuss different facets of film making so well. Fantastic video Jammy!
Bhool Bhulaiyaa is shamelessly baiting the audience on nostalgia and cheap callbacks to the original film. What is even the purpose to reference the original film when there is no connection whatsoever?? Audiences will again flock to the theaters because 'we' don't care! Moolah is waiting for the director and producer..
You think T-Series really care? I find Bhusan Kumar as a worse producer. With such money and resource available, he can literally create path breaking movies. But all we see is cringy and nostalgia driven content
@@AnkitGupta-u1n we do get the same feeling as you are feeling now when we watch bhool bhulaiyas and chandramukhi😖. What was the need to recreate one of the most iconic movies in malayalam.
@@chandanabose7264 Well, you can ask that question to Priyadarshan. Cause he's the one remaking those films in Hindi for years now. BTW, Bhul Bhulaiya (2007) was a good remake..
3:33 Nope. You can still see the weird interaction of Madhuri Dixit's outfit with Vidya Balan. And look at Vidya Balan's legs. They don't match up with the floor.
U could have also mentioned the Naatu Naatu song as it is also a perfect union of great dancers and choreography plus story. I can watch Rajamouli's breakdown of the song for Vanity Fair all day. On a side note, i find it hilarious u have a beef with Jhoom Barabar Jhoom as I only remember two songs from that movie.
This is the best explanation I’ve ever come across. Understanding the technicality of dance is no joke and you explain it so well.❤ And thankyou for bring up Master Ji’s choreography - (Saroj Khan Mam) You just cant think of any another name in terms of Semi-Classical/Bollywood Dance
U know what wud b great, the distinction between Madhuri and Vidya's natural dancing skills becomes the cause of conflict between their characters in movie. Meaning, Madhuri's natural skill of dancing being better than Vidya's is incorporated as a plot such that Madhuri's character dances better than Vidya's character and thus she is more favored courtesan of the king. And so Vidya's character becomes disturbingly jealous of Madhuri's character and does something bad to her
@@somasarker3544 Yeah kind of. But in BB2 it was intrinsic nature of Tabu's character that made the difference, while they weren't courtesans. I'm saying the difference should be in their dancing skills and the ghost should be of historic time!
Well said..👌 This kind of immatured review youtubers,just seeing a small glimpse and criticizing..I dont know when is this going to stop..horrible youtubers🤦🤦.how many things are hidden in this song..jsuut like thatt he critisized 🤦🤮
OMG. I did not look at the background/VFX at all. Madhuri and Vidya were so captivating from the word go; looking so good together ! Madhuri, Priyanka and Rani are the best dancers in Bollywood; so fluid ! Somehow Aishwarya and Deepika are so tall with thin builts that Indian classical dancing looks stiff on their bodyframe !
Madhuri dixit is Hrithik Roshan female version. And yes even though they were dancing together, the vfx background and lighting is so on the face that you feel like they shot separately. Let's hope it will be seen good in the big screen 🤞😁
Superb analysis. Absolutely correct. Vidhya is unbearable. Her dance movements are not correct. But they have also done pathetic AI work for face of madhuri looking . Which is very bad.
You are so astute and articulate J! I watched the 3.0 version and felt something was off but couldn't put my finger on it. The VFX overkill has to STOP. Bollywood rarely delivers in horror genre. The original Bhool Bhulaiya was exceptional .Unfortunately, the sequels do not even come close. Apart from the silly VFX, they should stop casting Kartik Aryan. He just does not hold a candle to Akshay's finesse with comic time and a completely contrasting sincerity with which he explains Avni's mental health condition to her husband. P.S.- So glad I clicked on this video because I needed a break from the craziness of US elections
@kelly123sona I dont think its right to compare the acting of Karthik to Akshay in this case since Akshay an achieved psychiatrist in BB1, whereas Karthik is more of an outcast who didn't have anything else better to do. In my opinion karthik fit the role that he was appointed perfectly, and I don't think Akshay would've fit the standards that were required to be met in BB3, and nor do i think that Karthik would've fit BB1 standards (given how young he is and how he is downright too immature for that role). You may say Akshay Kumar's role wasn't entirely mature, as he did deliver amazing comedy scenes in BB1, but those comedy scenes were mature too; at the same time, he was analyzing the behaviours of the people that lived in the house through his deemed idiocy. All in all, I just think its very unfair to compare Akshay and Karthik, because they both performed outstandingly well in their own department. If the roles were switched, both wouldn't be as iconic.
I am in awe how you have explained the nitty gritty comparison of dance techniques which I thought a trained dancer (likes of us) can see, not a non-dancer.. Are you a dancer yourself? I am so impressed...
Well technically people who understand dancing know that Madhuri Dixit dances the appropriate amount. As quoted by Late Choreographer Saroj Khan. Aishwarya on the other hand goes a little overboard with her excitement and expressions. Although It takes great strength to match up to Madhuri and Aishwarya is a phenomenal dancer. Her later performances are more refined like Kajrare. In Dola re she was too jumpy and over expressive. Something which amateurs perceive as great dancing.
@@abhishekbhardwaj8398Absolutely correct. Ash was too jumpy with child like excitement and overly expressive. Madhuri expressed her love, fear, devotion with such nuisances; subtle yet powerful. In a jugalbandi, I’m yet to see anyone outshining Madhuri.
Aishwariya is really talented. She had so many talent she gave so much to Bollywood it actually mind blogging . If you consider the greatest trend setters in Bollywood when it comes to fashion and dance the top 3 that comes to your mind is sridevi mumtaz and aishwarya . hema Malini and rekha are basically clones of mumtuz they just copy what she wore how she dance the desi voli girl image they just took from her than came sridevis in the 80sa bit more western desi girl a bit more bold desi girl who can do classical and western dance she completely changed the heroine look the the whole 80s to 90s all the actress copied sridevi may be karisma tried to break the mold but she was never that big of a trendsetter. Lastly came ash she just took it to another lv the fashion and dance and desi girl image went to a global lv and I don't see anybody breaking that right now, still to this day every modern actress directly or indirectly copies her. Just think about her impact is so strong that it's been 20 years and people are still following her
Any time I hear face-off dance, the only song that comes to my mind is Vyjayanthimala vs Padmini, Kannum Kannum Kalanthu song, from Vanjikottai Valiban movie, Tamil classic.
Well Vidya balan had to shed those extra kilos for that dance face-off 😅. She didn't back away from the challenge of dance-off with Madhuri dixit even when she knew that she will pale in comparison. Anyway Saroj khan is badly missed because she could have given them some really good steps to perform. It could have been a epic Face-off between the 2 of these great actresses onscreen .
What would be great: In BB3, they integrate the parity between the dancing capabilities into the narrative and the reason for Vidya's jealousy towards Madhuri, and the looks Vidya gives to Madhuri during the sequence.
Everyone talks about the examples he mentioned. I'm blown away by the way he analysed each and every detail. He just changed my perspective of watching dance performances on screen now!!
I agree, it was great for what it is! And I have to admit, the choreography was matched well to the actors, as in it played to their strengths and didn't pose overwhelming challenges to their abilities. It still doesn't explain why the heck they hired those actors for a movie specifically about dancing (Preiti is by far the most competent, and even she is simply not in the category of dancers), but hey, the end result is fun!
WHAT IF.. This whole dance sequence is there in the movie just to show that madhuri's character was better both in looks and dance then vidya's character. Manjhulika vs Manjhulika
Jammy - I think you should preface that this is only for 90s and beyond, because talking about dance combos and not including those of Vyjanthimala or Sridevi or Meena Kumari has to be a crime.
Look hown many times we talk about Bhoot Buliya 1 even not the original one. Bcoz of how great it is & perfect.. whenever Bb2&3 and compare them Priyadashan is great director/film-maker 😊😊
Anees Bazmee has no idea how to use the shadows and the poor cgi which is sad, because the DOP Manu Anand is not bad at all, his work on Fan and Zero is outstanding
I don't know if it is cause I do photography or what but I think it bothers me a lot that a lot of the shadows don't make sense. Bits and pieces of the floor, like you said seem green screened and it feels like they did not perform together which is a big down point of the choreography. Some bits could have been done in better ways rather than green screening them in together. The piano/dancing scene from La La Land, spins the camera back and forth between the two actors, it could have easily been done in this case as well instead of putting them together in the same scene post production. Obviously we can't say much from that 1:42 clip but i really HOPE, they try to fix whatever they can before the release just so this beautiful piece looks amazing on the big screen.
Not a face off. But as we are talking about the dance and choreography and the reality of those. Katrina Kaif's dance floor single in Jab Tak Hai Jaan. Hrithik Roshan's dance floor bit in Kites. Totally unexpected dance of Aishwarya Rai in Guzaarish. Those are the ones that we rarely see in movies these days.
Bang on.. this is just how I felt about the face off between Madhuri and Vidya. No one can match up to the years of classical training and practice. It just shows very evidently on screen. And you were so right about the digitisation of the faces… they don’t really need it as they are naturally so beautiful. I don’t know how they even agree upon for such digital plastic surgeries to be performed on screen ☹️
I was disspointed when Karan Johar didn't used Madhuri in Kalank in that song which always makes us wanting more than fulfilling dance number. I thought Madhuri was getting old and they didn't wanted to tarnish her image but now I realized they just wanted to protect Alia, no one would have given a single damn about her, if Madhuri had just bit of leg shake and faced off, she just stoles the show with only her expressions! Vidya Balan is tremendous actress but anyone couod feel short in front grace that Madhuri brings.
@@Mira-pm3ni Few kids comments rubbish, without knowing and seeing any of her work in films like Anjaam, pukar, mrityudand, lajja, prahhar, parinda, khalnayak.
Thank you Jammy for this core topic .. loved all the face off you have discussed, you may check for another one of Madhuri Dixit and Javed Jaffrey (le le Dil) from the movie 100 days... And Vidya Balan this time not wearing Odissi costume. Only the tahia( head band) is from Odissi.
I really don't know much about all this choreography stuff and all...but really compared to the OG Mere dholna, dance and synchronisation with the lyrics of every step was so real and thrilling that it gave me goosebumps. But the ami je tomar 3.0 the song really didn't match with the dance and the whole set looked so unnatural especially the floor that you mentioned..and their skin tones where so much doctored that they really started to glow bright white when in focus shots😂 and yeah the dance steps of both of them were also not in sync properly but the song really captivated me till the end
2:10 That is so true. When I actually saw Madhuri Dixit in the song, I thought did she get botox? Seriously I was only excited for her and Vidya Balan but that excitement is now washed out.
Madhuri's form in the dance is Katthak while Vidya's dancing Bharatnatyam. The forms themselves are contrast. Katthak is smoother while Bharatnatyam is exact. I feel cant compare. Love both of them ❤❤
Well put buddy. Perhaps one of your top 5 works. Great explanation of the difference between a trained dancer and an instantaneous one. The same applies while demonstrating a sport too. Just compare the cricketing skills in Lagan (even the English cricketers’) with that of in Jersey or Dhoni etc
Dhola Re Dhola is pinnacle of Bollywood classical dance. It has a cinematic quality while still being fun and elegant. And they have been trying to copy ever since. It's funny the you bring up Akshay and Salman because they did actually have great chemistry while dancing. It felt organic and had perfect comedic timing. That is very hard to pull off; unless you are Govinda.
So well analysed and explained. It's obvious the disparity of the smoothness of dance moves between Madhuri and Vidya. I felt its unfair to get an untrained dancer to share the screen space in then same dance with an exellently trained classical dancer, especially in a competitive note. Pretty sure Vidya collected lot of guts to perfume with Maduri and kudos to her for doing it. But , yes the rawness and incompleteness of her dance movements are clearly visible. Very informative video on what's right and wrong on dancing seems of our movies.
@@foridaeasmin8165 I don't know how to describe it exactly. Just look at the actors faces mentioned in the video. They seem unnatural. Just observe their faces properly.
Excellent observation... But, I have one more theory... The story might revolve around how the character of Vidya Balan becomes jealous of the character of Madhuri Dixit... I mean it can be seen clearly in a clip, so who knows... So, it might be included in the plot... One might be shown to be more talented, beautiful, popular in the king's court... However, watching their performances in the song will be a truly delightful experience hopefully... 😊
I so wished for more of Madhuri Dixit!! I hope she has a decent portion in the full song! And also, I must say the music director did an outstanding job! Amaal Mallik did absolute justice to Pritam Da's masterpiece while adding his own magic to Ami Je Tomar 3.0!!
You can see she is thinking about the next step instead of completing the current one! Brilliant observation.
I noticed it too. There was too much blinking involved by Vidya while Madhuri, right beside her, wasn't
Isn't the point of the song to show that vidya is jealous of Madhuri's character? Seems to fit the narrative of the choreography
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@@rudecomments681exactly
@@rudecomments681 right
Vidya looked almost CGI as a whole. Small body, large head. Or her head was graphically added on someone else's body... Something was off.
Even I felt so
Her waist and hips looked way too small. Not that i mind if she has lost weight but we all know the gorgeous curvy body of Vidya. It just looked fake as hell
Glad someone mentioned this. I felt that something was off with Vidhya. Maybe some editing was done to make her look slim? Or did she lose so much weight that head looks disproportionate. Hands are pudgy compared to slim body.
They are both performing different dance forms. People are more familiar with Kathak dance form, less with Odissi. Thus there cannot be any comparison on whose performance is better.
Exactly : felt like AI
Watching Kartik Aaryan footwork feels like seeing Tiger Shroff perform stunts - same stuff again and again with slight tweaks which no one really asked for.
Kartik Aryan is outsider he is struggling to establish his career and from start he has clarity what kind of audience he is targeting like bb2 bb3 will also work in tier 2 tier 3 Cities and mass audience will watch bb3
That's how you become star, hutiye
Yes true he has even tried to go outside of this niche created around him.... Chandu Champion was his best work but audience rejected it! So he came back with BB3 which will work it seems... So before blaming Kartik we should also consider that he is an outsider and 2-3 more experiments (flop) will end his movie career!
@@sadhanatiwari2192 true even maidaan was disaster but I can say Singham again will also work franchise value
The issue i believe with kartik aaryan is that choreographers are probably told to make him do a step involving footwork so the song can go viral on reels. This in turn making the quality of the choreography look so poor. Its not his fault just whats being handed to him because hes not a bad dancer in fairness to him
😂😂 That CGI FLOOR IS KILLING ME , reminds me of that Weird Alien dance move of the character
Finally someone said this😂
@Ash.2001_ 😁😁😁
Matching up to Madhuri in terms of dance, expressions and grace is NO JOKE. That's probably why Karan didn't let her dance in Ghar More Pardesiya with Alia
The only one overshadowd her in dance was karishma kapoor in dtph
@@sayandas3939Karishma was confident, but didn’t overshadow Ms Dixit. Madhuri has this cool n secure grace that’s just hard to beat.
@@sayandas3939 I felt the same but I think it's because it wasn't Madhuri's forte. Even in pukar, contrary to the above observation, she has a problem that a lot of trained singers have singing modern songs, being so deep in their classical art form that they bring that in everything. That's why I feel Sridevi was the perfect dancer for bollywood. She knew Bharatnatyam but never used it in pure form and always mixed it with a casualness that a good but not professionally trained dancer would have
She didn't overshadowed but because she was wearing sensuous clothes eyes automatically fall for Lolo @@sayandas3939
@@sayandas3939yash chopra ne bhi madhuri ko cool dance krne ko kaha tha or karishma ko fiery like karan johar nahi to aag kya dhamaka kr deti madhuri .....ye bade log like yash karan johar sb kisi single person ko aage nhi liklte dekhna chahte
Madhuri is the only person to have received praise from Prabhudeva. I'm so happy you mentioned Priyanka. She dances so well but is severely underrated in that sense
He praised Sridevi ji too
A Sunny Deol and Ajay Devgn Dance-off would easily give everything you mentioned a run for their money...
Let's put saif ali khan also in the mix 😅
@@GurjinderSingh-r8sWhat about Bobby Deol?? 🤣🤣
Hahahah..wish ...😅😅😅
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@@AlterEgo-hp1be Kitne tejaswi log hamare pass 👍😂
8:30. You are right . Hrithik and Aishwarya are seriously an underrated pair. They have an amazing chemistry ❤❤❤
Madhuri and Aishwarya’s dance off is the highest standard of dance off. No one else have reached that bar.
It wasn't a dance off ...more like a collaboration
Madhuri-Karishma???? DTPH? That's ICONIC.
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@@PrinceK-dm3xs its just instrumental.. without lyrics
Madhuri and Prabhu Deva in Kay Sera Sera ??
honestly, i love your essays. its a pleasure to watch/ hear such high quality, well-articulated, thoughtfully crafted pieces that give voice to our collective frustrations & rants better than we ever could! :)
Yup. Agree
Aaaja Nachle is just criminally underrated.. I love how Madhuri just articulates every step .... ❤❤
Omg yes
That was my sister's annual function dance in school. She and her friends rocked that song!!
@@Ashwini-u2p That's great 👏👏❤😍 who's isn't love that song and steps
They don't make songs like that anymore 😭😭😭
Yes agree
A dancer making a video about dancing just hits it out of the park. Very pertinent observations. Enjoyed this one a lot!
I thought he has to be a dancer to make these kind of observations! Thanks for confirming. Whats his name?
Aishwarya was a damn good dancer. Only, she could match the flow and rhythm of Madhuri.
So trueee
Aishwarya is very versatile. She can pull out item songs with complex choreography like crazy kiya re dhoom again robot while she can deliver classical and semi classical in umrao jaan.
I really sometimes imagine what glory she could have been attained if she continued acting till now
@@Gem-In_Eye She was at the top of her game when she left. Now, she is struggling with weight loss due to some health issues, I had read somewhere.
@@roshanchachane142 You mean weight gain??
Everything feels artificial nowadays in movies. Creativity has dead, colours looks so dull for such a song, background looks so empty, lighting looks like tv serial. Imagine if same thing would have came 15 years back, creative minds would have killed it with presentation.
That's why SLB movies look so great and authentic. Songs like Deewani Mastani was shot in a proper made set with little to no extra digital renderings. Yes the effort is more to shoot them but it is so worth it.
They did had some digital touch up for the song, to enhance it. ✌️ but boy, that song is a mesmerizing piece of art ❤️
REALLY?? SLB is the most fake set designer. Check mohe rang do laal and all the funny battle scenes in the movie
Set banaya tha
@@Aversiontostupidity Mohe Rang do has just the sky and sorroundings of the court digitally erected.. other than that the set was created
@@dawoodfarooqi988 The colour scheme was so very artificial... And the claustrophobic indoor studio setting while shooting an outdoor scene is just horrible to watch. A decorative wall is not a set
The first thing which I found totally wrong (being a classical dance lover) is vidya is wearing the head crown of odissi whereas the dress style is of Bharatnatyam or Kuchipudi 🫤.
Dola Re Dola is so iconic that the recreation in Rocky aur Rani, was arguably the highlight of that movie (which btw, Ranveer deserves full applause imo). The beats is perfect for a dance face-off and the SLB cinematography is unparalleled.
Vyjayanthimala and Gopi Krishna in Amrapali. The way it just builds up and builds up! Truly amazing cinematic experience!
Am I the only one who thinks that the oddisi dance outfit (of Vidya balan )looks far more stunning and exotic than Madhuri's katthak which looks repetitive and overdone, it's honestly looks straight out of heera Mandi , but I have to say that the set and the colour of red and black looks kinda undone, don't know how to put it , but can't see the richness like Sanjay Leela Bhansali sets
She's wearing a Bharatnatyam dress (with just a headgear from Odissi costume) and has Kucchipudi steps in between. Bollywood is a mess when it comes to mixing artforms! 😂🫠
@@gudduprince-h7q wtf, the oddisi dress would have looked fabulous, especially when it is such an unexplored dance form in the main stream
@@SiddhaanntJagushte exactly! 💯
Even I saw the visual difference between their clothes. Vidya Balans are brighter and vibrant than Madhuris.
I have very less understanding of of these art forms and thus out of respect I wouldn’t want to say anything about the dance or their specific attires.
But it seems that since Vidya is competing with Madhuri, she has to look more attractive than the latter, and thus vibrancy in her clothes. Maybe that’s the case. Just a guess.
@@maverickmustang8058 yep, but Vidya costume is beautiful
Dance movies with non dancers.. makes absolute 0 sense… especially when we have such amazing talented dancers around… thank you jammy.. finally someone said it!!!
Shobana ma'ams dance for Manichithrathazhu (bhool bhulaiya's original) will forever be the epitome of classical dance I have seen in mainstream cinema. The expressions which she conveys and the grace with which she does it is ❤
These malayalees self praise is very cringey🤢
Nagavalli 🩵
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I was looking for someone to comment this
Vidya balan in mere dholna (original) comes a close second
The Akshay Salman Face off can never be upped in anyway. They were too funny. I think they had the best time. And I agree that Priyanka is by far an amazing dancer. She was incredible in Pinga and has not been given her due as a smooth dancer as she deserves. I think I will wait for the movie to be released to see the Madhuri Vidhya face off. But You forget that the Madhuri Karishma Face off was favoring Karishma cause her youth and body worked waay better than Madhuri's at that time. You could tell the age and body and Karishma is a very fit person so she gave Madhuri a run for her money in the modern style dance.
The original Bhool Bhulaiya was an amazing psychological thriller and a very good remake to a masterpiece film called Manichitrathazhu.
The sequel couldn't care less and made a complete 180 degree turn with the genre and tonality.. psychiatrists were replaced by Tantriks and so on..
The threquel is even more shameless as it thinks the audience is completely foolish and will flock to the theaters just because Vidya is back, Madhuri is in, and budget is high... are they right? Sadly, yes.
i totally agree! i remember watching bhool bhulaiya 2 and not liking it at all because it was only feeding off of the nostalgia of the first movie when it was nowhere near like it, i would’ve appreciated it more if it wasn’t named bhool bhulaiya tbh
@@AnkitGupta-u1n to be fare in all positivity the movie should be watched because of vidya losing a lot of weight and looking a lot fitter and healthier and also for karthik putting on weight and size and looking a lot fitter and healthier. For that health and healthy life support bb3 😉👍
@@iftyhuq4321 😂😂😂
There's nothing original in BB3. It's same low effort content in not even new package.
They didn't even get the horror element right. Vidya climbing the walk with Maduri looked hilarious and Madhuri couldn't do the contortion.
I hope both Sigham and BB flops. They nothing but remake garbage. Low quality maal. But I know the opposite of it will happen. And people say ott has made audience smart. 🙄
@@Vor567tez I hv not seen the movie I hv seen the climbing scene it looked exactly same like a viral horror video I hv watched alot from many sources.
Jammy, the fact that you are dancer, shows very clearly in this analysis. This is your best technical analysis video. I enjoyed that.
Is it just me overthinking, or this songs is a spoiler?? Vidya in Odissi dance/costume, Madhuri in Kathak (Uttar Pradesh), and since Manjulika is Bengali, so these two are NOT MANJULIKA.
Tripti can be! (She's already a Bengali witch in Bulbbul) 😭😭
Your observation is on point 💯
Most creators already said this before this song that none of these actresses are manjulika it will be tripti dimri it's not a spoiler anymore😂
True
Exactly. Or why they could be hiding her in promotions.
You think Bollywood has a penchant for such detailing?
While I agree that Vidya Balan's dance might seem less dynamic than Madhuri Dixit's in this performance, my observation is that comparing it to 'Dola Re' or 'Pinga' doesn't quite do it justice. In 'Ami Je Tomar 3.0,' Madhuri appears to be performing Kathak (a faster dance form), whereas Vidya Balan seems to be doing Odishi (a comparatively slower dance form), creating a difference in movement. If you look closely, the choreography appears to be the same for both, but the contrast between the two dance styles is visible in small details like hand postures, movements, speed etc because of them actually being in different dance forms.
Ami je tomar 3 looked like it was filmed in green screen. It looked faker than 2007 bhool bulaiya which is saying a lot since this time they had an actual budget too.
This. I was confused why Madhuri and Vidya's glances at each other do not match to where their positions are in a few shots. And it also looks fake as everything seems super polished without any nitty gritty that a real set would have. Oh well, Anwol will tell us about it when the movie releases.
I am a classical dancer and I totally get it when you say starting and finishing of every step shows if the person is learnt classical dancer or just dancing ! So true ! Love this video ❤❤
As a classical dancer myself, I agree with you - you're on point about the observations about Vidya Balan's dance movements. She's definitely done the best she could vs a legendary graceful dancer as Madhuri Dixit. It was unfair to cast them together in the first place. They've probably been extra airbrushed and edited to look way thinner and younger for the storyline. As dancers, it's hard to not spot moves that look incomplete or compare dancers. Nice video!
I agree, and one thing I feel like no one is addressing is that Vidya's choreography was more semi-classical than Madhuri's. Let's start with her outfit - the Bharatanatyam clothes + Odissi hairdo. It seems like no research was done into what kind of dance form she should be doing. Next, the steps - at least we could say that Madhuri's was Kathak but what was given to Vidya? It felt like the choreographer only knew Kathak but got the task to choreograph Vidya's steps too. Vidya's choreography felt like it was made to match with those of Madhuri's Kathak but make it look like Bharatanatyam/Odissi. It was not only unfair to cast them together but give them choreographies of very different levels of classical elements in them.
Very well said. Actually Madhuri is a trained kathak dancer where as Vidya is not a dancer. The saddest part today in Mumbai Film industry is that neither there are trained classical choreographers nor trained classical dance actors.
Earlier mostly actresses were trained classical dancer be it Vyjantimalaji, Padmini Ragini ji Kumkum ji etc etc.
Nowadays it's totally chaotic.
Thank you for your honest review 🙏
Vidya is a trained Bharatnatyam dancer . That's why she is dancing well in the song . Madhuri is a league apart and it's difficult to match her perfect steps on any song
I just realized from Ami Je tomar 3.0 editing & camera work is one of the most important aspect of flim making. It can make look good performance look medicore & vice-verca. Currently Vijay Ganguly is absolutely nailing the editing & camera work in bollywood in every single time.
Vijay Ganguly is indeed one of the best choreographers working in the business currently
@@TriedRefusedProductionsYou should have mentioned Rani Mukherjee with Shahid Kapoor in Dil Bole Hadippa. She not only matched Shahid Kapoor's energy but surpassed him in certain moments. She is one of the best dancers in bollywood.
Oh yes @@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
I have a gut feeling that tripti's role won't be limited to another eye candy...... fingers crossed 🤞🤞
I’m sad you didn’t mention ‘Badi Mushkil’ with Madhuri Dixit and Manisha Koirala.
How could you be such of a great analyser? I thought i was the only one to detect the unnatural precision of MD in her dances and the ICONIC DOLA RE DOLA with longer shots, Aishwarya being an underrated dancer and Kat killing the Suraiya too. Yk even Dupatta mera by MD is underrated too. You are a good analyser fr
We all should appreciate vidya mam that she didn't avoid faceoff with madhuri mam like alia did in ghar more pardeshiya .vidya mam knew her weaknesses will be shown but she was ready for that but alia was protected by all bcz they didn't want to expose alia weaknesses so only alia dancing was there in whole song nothing to do with madhuri mam so that ppl can only see, alia dance so well .ppl need to realize all this .
So true.. In an bengali interview during the promotion of Kalank Alia told she made it clear to the director that she won’t dance with Madhuri
It was a smarter decision on Alia's behalf, because she knew the criticism she'd face and she stepped back.
Oh my, your review was so professional and so thorough. You know your stuff. Everything you said was spot on. I am just a dance watcher but I could still see your point. Awesome review. Keep at it ! No wonder it got so many views and so many likes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts !
One of my favorites ( even though not a dance off ) is the choreography done for 'Azeem-O-Shaan Shahenshah' in Jodha Akbar. That whole song sequence feels like a song itself with a beautiful flow. It was on par with Cleopatra's coronation shot in the old classic. That was Ashutosh -AR Rehman and the chorepographer's aesthetics at their best !
In the above Ami Je Tomar BB3 the aesthetics were absent is what I felt. As my guruji , of a different classical art form, always says "is mein saundary nahin.."🙂
The last dance(Akshay and salman) is undoubtedly the best
It's a shame that it doesn't get enough credit. Sad reality of the world
wait bhul bhulaya has Akshay and Salman's cameo??? tf😂
Akshay and Salman ? Where ?
Did you see the whole video? He is talking about the last movie clip from this video. @@thestraltheundead4093
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THIS is why Anmol has reached where he is! Tell me another TH-camr who has managed to discuss different facets of film making so well. Fantastic video Jammy!
Bhool Bhulaiyaa is shamelessly baiting the audience on nostalgia and cheap callbacks to the original film. What is even the purpose to reference the original film when there is no connection whatsoever?? Audiences will again flock to the theaters because 'we' don't care! Moolah is waiting for the director and producer..
Original is manichitrathazhu. Bhool bhulaiya is just it's remake.
@@chandanabose7264 Is the movie called Manichitrathazhu 3 or Bhool Bhulaiya 3? We are talking within the context of the 'franchise'.
You think T-Series really care? I find Bhusan Kumar as a worse producer. With such money and resource available, he can literally create path breaking movies. But all we see is cringy and nostalgia driven content
@@AnkitGupta-u1n we do get the same feeling as you are feeling now when we watch bhool bhulaiyas and chandramukhi😖. What was the need to recreate one of the most iconic movies in malayalam.
@@chandanabose7264 Well, you can ask that question to Priyadarshan. Cause he's the one remaking those films in Hindi for years now. BTW, Bhul Bhulaiya (2007) was a good remake..
3:33 Nope. You can still see the weird interaction of Madhuri Dixit's outfit with Vidya Balan. And look at Vidya Balan's legs. They don't match up with the floor.
U could have also mentioned the Naatu Naatu song as it is also a perfect union of great dancers and choreography plus story. I can watch Rajamouli's breakdown of the song for Vanity Fair all day.
On a side note, i find it hilarious u have a beef with Jhoom Barabar Jhoom as I only remember two songs from that movie.
Yup! He could have mentioned Naatu Naatu 😮
That song and dance were rubbish
@@varoonnone7159 lol literally won oscars and was so loved by all over nation stfu
This is the best explanation I’ve ever come across. Understanding the technicality of dance is no joke and you explain it so well.❤
And thankyou for bring up Master Ji’s choreography - (Saroj Khan Mam) You just cant think of any another name in terms of Semi-Classical/Bollywood Dance
U know what wud b great, the distinction between Madhuri and Vidya's natural dancing skills becomes the cause of conflict between their characters in movie. Meaning, Madhuri's natural skill of dancing being better than Vidya's is incorporated as a plot such that Madhuri's character dances better than Vidya's character and thus she is more favored courtesan of the king. And so Vidya's character becomes disturbingly jealous of Madhuri's character and does something bad to her
Hasn't this already been done in BB2 with Taboo? Phew!
@@somasarker3544 Yeah kind of. But in BB2 it was intrinsic nature of Tabu's character that made the difference, while they weren't courtesans.
I'm saying the difference should be in their dancing skills and the ghost should be of historic time!
Well said..👌
This kind of immatured review youtubers,just seeing a small glimpse and criticizing..I dont know when is this going to stop..horrible youtubers🤦🤦.how many things are hidden in this song..jsuut like thatt he critisized 🤦🤮
made them look younger with airbrush i think because of flashback scene like they did Tabu in BB2 and RK in Animal during school scenes
The most iconic face-off is between Prem and Crime Master Gogo. That climax dance fight is 🤌
True!!!!
Iconic dance moves
Never ever will there be another dance off like that!
😂 oh yes..
OMG. I did not look at the background/VFX at all. Madhuri and Vidya were so captivating from the word go; looking so good together ! Madhuri, Priyanka and Rani are the best dancers in Bollywood; so fluid ! Somehow Aishwarya and Deepika are so tall with thin builts that Indian classical dancing looks stiff on their bodyframe !
Madhuri dixit is Hrithik Roshan female version. And yes even though they were dancing together, the vfx background and lighting is so on the face that you feel like they shot separately. Let's hope it will be seen good in the big screen 🤞😁
Sorry it's opposite..HR is male version of Madhuri.
How could you miss Ae Meri Zohrajabeen from Phir Hera Pheri😂😂😂 Best choreography ever.... Suniel, Akshay & Paresh rocked it👍👍👍
I just Love VBalan she's the Super ❤
A for effort but Madhuri is an icon for a reason!
Superb analysis. Absolutely correct. Vidhya is unbearable. Her dance movements are not correct. But they have also done pathetic AI work for face of madhuri looking . Which is very bad.
You are so astute and articulate J!
I watched the 3.0 version and felt something was off but couldn't put my finger on it. The VFX overkill has to STOP. Bollywood rarely delivers in horror genre. The original Bhool Bhulaiya was exceptional .Unfortunately, the sequels do not even come close. Apart from the silly VFX, they should stop casting Kartik Aryan. He just does not hold a candle to Akshay's finesse with comic time and a completely contrasting sincerity with which he explains Avni's mental health condition to her husband.
P.S.- So glad I clicked on this video because I needed a break from the craziness of US elections
Well they got one part of horror right - the kind of trailer they made left me horrified as they butchered our childhood fav film.
@ LOL 😂
@kelly123sona I dont think its right to compare the acting of Karthik to Akshay in this case since Akshay an achieved psychiatrist in BB1, whereas Karthik is more of an outcast who didn't have anything else better to do. In my opinion karthik fit the role that he was appointed perfectly, and I don't think Akshay would've fit the standards that were required to be met in BB3, and nor do i think that Karthik would've fit BB1 standards (given how young he is and how he is downright too immature for that role). You may say Akshay Kumar's role wasn't entirely mature, as he did deliver amazing comedy scenes in BB1, but those comedy scenes were mature too; at the same time, he was analyzing the behaviours of the people that lived in the house through his deemed idiocy. All in all, I just think its very unfair to compare Akshay and Karthik, because they both performed outstandingly well in their own department. If the roles were switched, both wouldn't be as iconic.
I am in awe how you have explained the nitty gritty comparison of dance techniques which I thought a trained dancer (likes of us) can see, not a non-dancer.. Are you a dancer yourself? I am so impressed...
In the immortal words of Johnny Lever: “AAJ JO MAJA AAYEGA NA BHIDU!”
(The dance discourse on this channel hits different)
How are you so active in youtube😂 I find you everywhere in popular youtube channels
@@Passionate-i2m I have too many opinions. That’s why I’m active 😂
@@Passionate-i2m same...I've seen him in channels from india to america lol...
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@@froggywithaheart Ticket to Hollywood Arre Ticket to Hollywood (Lauta De)
Wait is it just me or 0:28 looks like you 😵💫
Looks like his elder brother
It is just you
Me too
Episodes where Jammy talks about dance just hit different. You can see he's truly in his zone and element.
The last few seconds are so bombastic that it left even a wordsmith like Jammy speechless..
That's why dola re dola remains ICONIC. Even my mother , masi who witnessed Madhuri's peak confessed that Aishwariya almost outshined Madhuri.
Well technically people who understand dancing know that Madhuri Dixit dances the appropriate amount. As quoted by Late Choreographer Saroj Khan. Aishwarya on the other hand goes a little overboard with her excitement and expressions. Although It takes great strength to match up to Madhuri and Aishwarya is a phenomenal dancer. Her later performances are more refined like Kajrare. In Dola re she was too jumpy and over expressive. Something which amateurs perceive as great dancing.
@@abhishekbhardwaj8398 good point totally agree with you 👍
@@abhishekbhardwaj8398Absolutely correct. Ash was too jumpy with child like excitement and overly expressive. Madhuri expressed her love, fear, devotion with such nuisances; subtle yet powerful. In a jugalbandi, I’m yet to see anyone outshining Madhuri.
Aishwariya is really talented. She had so many talent she gave so much to Bollywood it actually mind blogging . If you consider the greatest trend setters in Bollywood when it comes to fashion and dance the top 3 that comes to your mind is sridevi mumtaz and aishwarya . hema Malini and rekha are basically clones of mumtuz they just copy what she wore how she dance the desi voli girl image they just took from her than came sridevis in the 80sa bit more western desi girl a bit more bold desi girl who can do classical and western dance she completely changed the heroine look the the whole 80s to 90s all the actress copied sridevi may be karisma tried to break the mold but she was never that big of a trendsetter. Lastly came ash she just took it to another lv the fashion and dance and desi girl image went to a global lv and I don't see anybody breaking that right now, still to this day every modern actress directly or indirectly copies her. Just think about her impact is so strong that it's been 20 years and people are still following her
@@iftyhuq4321 Okay. But your scattered essay is not required and doesn't help the topic. Nobody is undermining anybody's talents and achievements.
1. This critical review is bang on and decently worded too. I learnt a lot. And I totally agree with each point made.
2. Yes, the costume are wanting.
Any time I hear face-off dance, the only song that comes to my mind is Vyjayanthimala vs Padmini, Kannum Kannum Kalanthu song, from Vanjikottai Valiban movie, Tamil classic.
I agree
Yes. Nothing can beat that performance. Two brilliant dancers coming together.
Jammy I am seriously confessing that this is one of your best or rather your besssssssst video so far!!!! Loved each and every opinion you made!!❤❤❤❤❤
😂😂😂😂😂😂 the last one was iconic 😂😂😂😂😂
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@TriedRefusedProductions man I absolutely love ryu's hadouken❤❤❤
What a video Jammy. Very well articulated. Being a trained classical dancer myself, this video was a delight to watch 😊
You literally say my mind at last... i literally got headache while watching bhool bhulaiya 3 title track.. Enough Kartik Leg steps🤕🤕😆😆
Well Vidya balan had to shed those extra kilos for that dance face-off 😅. She didn't back away from the challenge of dance-off with Madhuri dixit even when she knew that she will pale in comparison. Anyway Saroj khan is badly missed because she could have given them some really good steps to perform. It could have been a epic Face-off between the 2 of these great actresses onscreen .
What would be great: In BB3, they integrate the parity between the dancing capabilities into the narrative and the reason for Vidya's jealousy towards Madhuri, and the looks Vidya gives to Madhuri during the sequence.
Everyone talks about the examples he mentioned. I'm blown away by the way he analysed each and every detail. He just changed my perspective of watching dance performances on screen now!!
In defence of ‘Jhoom Barabar Jhoom’, I think the songs are flamboyant and fun. The song vibed well with everyone.
@@PokhrajRoy. yes yes. That movie was fun. The songs where fun too. Lara and preity both looked really hot in that movie
I agree, it was great for what it is! And I have to admit, the choreography was matched well to the actors, as in it played to their strengths and didn't pose overwhelming challenges to their abilities. It still doesn't explain why the heck they hired those actors for a movie specifically about dancing (Preiti is by far the most competent, and even she is simply not in the category of dancers), but hey, the end result is fun!
So so glad you brought this up!
WHAT IF..
This whole dance sequence is there in the movie just to show that madhuri's character was better both in looks and dance then vidya's character. Manjhulika vs Manjhulika
Bhool Bhulaiya Maker's Aren't that wise
From prior experience, We think in far more layers than the makers themselves
😂😂😂@@TriedRefusedProductions
Could be a love story between these two women's....
@@dr.khushbooagarwal786that would be brilliant
💯💯👍🏻 Absolutely Right observation.
Ami je tomar of bhool bhulaiyaa 1 was anyway the Best❤ performed by Vineeth & vidhya balan..
Jammy - I think you should preface that this is only for 90s and beyond, because talking about dance combos and not including those of Vyjanthimala or Sridevi or Meena Kumari has to be a crime.
Beautifully described. Loved the analysis
Look hown many times we talk about Bhoot Buliya 1 even not the original one. Bcoz of how great it is & perfect.. whenever Bb2&3 and compare them
Priyadashan is great director/film-maker 😊😊
Totally agree with you dear friend! , such a minute observations you have done ! Loved the video
Anees Bazmee has no idea how to use the shadows and the poor cgi which is sad, because the DOP Manu Anand is not bad at all, his work on Fan and Zero is outstanding
You’re so right about the completely different dancing abilities of the two stars. Kudos to Vidya for trying.
I don't know if it is cause I do photography or what but I think it bothers me a lot that a lot of the shadows don't make sense. Bits and pieces of the floor, like you said seem green screened and it feels like they did not perform together which is a big down point of the choreography. Some bits could have been done in better ways rather than green screening them in together. The piano/dancing scene from La La Land, spins the camera back and forth between the two actors, it could have easily been done in this case as well instead of putting them together in the same scene post production. Obviously we can't say much from that 1:42 clip but i really HOPE, they try to fix whatever they can before the release just so this beautiful piece looks amazing on the big screen.
Great ! You mentioned everything and that too amazingly! Keep going ❤
Not a face off. But as we are talking about the dance and choreography and the reality of those. Katrina Kaif's dance floor single in Jab Tak Hai Jaan. Hrithik Roshan's dance floor bit in Kites. Totally unexpected dance of Aishwarya Rai in Guzaarish. Those are the ones that we rarely see in movies these days.
Really like your dance analysis. We can see how passionate you can get about these details!
10:17 totally agree with everything you say 🤣
Bang on.. this is just how I felt about the face off between Madhuri and Vidya. No one can match up to the years of classical training and practice. It just shows very evidently on screen. And you were so right about the digitisation of the faces… they don’t really need it as they are naturally so beautiful. I don’t know how they even agree upon for such digital plastic surgeries to be performed on screen ☹️
I was disspointed when Karan Johar didn't used Madhuri in Kalank in that song which always makes us wanting more than fulfilling dance number.
I thought Madhuri was getting old and they didn't wanted to tarnish her image but now I realized they just wanted to protect Alia, no one would have given a single damn about her, if Madhuri had just bit of leg shake and faced off, she just stoles the show with only her expressions!
Vidya Balan is tremendous actress but anyone couod feel short in front grace that Madhuri brings.
BB3 will be a tight slap who often say that Madhuri is an average actor
@@sghosh9427 how can Madhuri be an average actor when she is the queen of expressions 🤨
@@Mira-pm3ni Few kids comments rubbish, without knowing and seeing any of her work in films like Anjaam, pukar, mrityudand, lajja, prahhar, parinda, khalnayak.
Thank you Jammy for this core topic .. loved all the face off you have discussed, you may check for another one of Madhuri Dixit and Javed Jaffrey (le le Dil) from the movie 100 days... And Vidya Balan this time not wearing Odissi costume. Only the tahia( head band) is from Odissi.
No one can match Madhuri ❤… apart from her body, she can even dance with her face only, which reminds me of the title track from “hum aapke hain kaun”
I really don't know much about all this choreography stuff and all...but really compared to the OG Mere dholna, dance and synchronisation with the lyrics of every step was so real and thrilling that it gave me goosebumps. But the ami je tomar 3.0 the song really didn't match with the dance and the whole set looked so unnatural especially the floor that you mentioned..and their skin tones where so much doctored that they really started to glow bright white when in focus shots😂 and yeah the dance steps of both of them were also not in sync properly but the song really captivated me till the end
2:10 That is so true. When I actually saw Madhuri Dixit in the song, I thought did she get botox? Seriously I was only excited for her and Vidya Balan but that excitement is now washed out.
She has been getting botox for years now. What's new,m
Madhuri's form in the dance is Katthak while Vidya's dancing Bharatnatyam. The forms themselves are contrast. Katthak is smoother while Bharatnatyam is exact. I feel cant compare. Love both of them ❤❤
Well put buddy. Perhaps one of your top 5 works. Great explanation of the difference between a trained dancer and an instantaneous one. The same applies while demonstrating a sport too.
Just compare the cricketing skills in Lagan (even the English cricketers’) with that of in Jersey or Dhoni etc
absolutely loved this review and explanation...apt!
Dhola Re Dhola is pinnacle of Bollywood classical dance. It has a cinematic quality while still being fun and elegant. And they have been trying to copy ever since.
It's funny the you bring up Akshay and Salman because they did actually have great chemistry while dancing. It felt organic and had perfect comedic timing. That is very hard to pull off; unless you are Govinda.
Very true! It's a very different style of dancing, but there's art to it like there is to other kinds of comedy
So well analysed and explained. It's obvious the disparity of the smoothness of dance moves between Madhuri and Vidya. I felt its unfair to get an untrained dancer to share the screen space in then same dance with an exellently trained classical dancer, especially in a competitive note. Pretty sure Vidya collected lot of guts to perfume with Maduri and kudos to her for doing it. But , yes the rawness and incompleteness of her dance movements are clearly visible. Very informative video on what's right and wrong on dancing seems of our movies.
One actor who doesn't need airbrushing is Maddy he needs just one shave 🤣🤣
What is airbrushing ?
@@foridaeasmin8165 basically reverse aging
@@foridaeasmin8165 using software to make you look young, thinner and better
@@foridaeasmin8165 I don't know how to describe it exactly. Just look at the actors faces mentioned in the video. They seem unnatural. Just observe their faces properly.
@@foridaeasmin8165I think whitewashing the face to look more young n new😂😂😂😂like polishing
Brilliant analysis. I totally agree that digital rendering has a use but up to a point where it doesn’t compromise the art being presented.
Excellent observation... But, I have one more theory... The story might revolve around how the character of Vidya Balan becomes jealous of the character of Madhuri Dixit... I mean it can be seen clearly in a clip, so who knows... So, it might be included in the plot... One might be shown to be more talented, beautiful, popular in the king's court...
However, watching their performances in the song will be a truly delightful experience hopefully... 😊
So articulate this vid is !! Great content 🎉
I so wished for more of Madhuri Dixit!! I hope she has a decent portion in the full song! And also, I must say the music director did an outstanding job! Amaal Mallik did absolute justice to Pritam Da's masterpiece while adding his own magic to Ami Je Tomar 3.0!!
I think there will be. This time the director has used her talent to fullest
Loved loved loved this analysis Jammy! Bang on!! I too felt it looks too air brushed!
Madhuri’s expression are weird maybe due to botox but Vidya looks absolutely splendid even the dance moves of vidya are more classy also
Wowww very well explained. One of the best reviews I have ever heard